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Dipped in ink

Could the claim in the Easter egg that Shadow Homestar was "dipped in a vat of ink" be a reference to the ending montage of dangeresque 3, where the silhouette of Killingyouguy was shown to be made by painting Strong Mad in black? It's what came first to my mind, anyway... --phlip TC 09:22, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Mine too.-Record307 Talk/Contribs 14:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Oh most definitely. Should there be a page for shadow Homestar, or at least a part of the chacter variation page for hime? He seems like a pretty important duplicate.--Jellote 21:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Shadow Homestar Runner. MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 22:58, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't really think the page is neccesary (Hope I spelled that right). It should be under Homestar's variations because that is practically him.---Record307 Talk/Contribs 02:17, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Shadow Homestar

Isn't this a reference to "Shadow Link" in the Legend of Zelda games? We all know TBC are big fans, so possibilities? --lustmyeyes <3 10:41, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I think lots of video game characters have "shadow" or "dark" versions of themselves, it's quite common, from what I can tell. --DumDe 16:10, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
I wish, but the easter egg seems to be referencing the Street Fighter series. That Game Dude 386 16:20, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Mortal Kombat as well. — Defender1031*Talk 16:23, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Since the whole scene is a parody of Mortal Kombat, I kinda think the Noob Saibot line holds some water. Another "ambiguous reference" about the ubiquitousness of "shadow" characters may also be appropriate. -132.183.151.21 01:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
For what it's worth, the original "Prince of Persia" was almost certainly the first game to have such a "shadow" opponent... predates Mortal Kombat by 3 years. --dmz 08:30, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I think we're best off with the ambiguous reference, like we already have on the page, though i wouldn't mind a nod to noob in the same line, since it IS mortal kombat after all. — Defender1031*Talk 19:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Frankly, I'm against any reference at all to Noob Saibot - he wasn't all-black, just gray, and he didn't copy the moves of any character in particular. In his initial appearance, there were MULTIPLE characters that looked like him aside from the color scheme. If it's got anything at all to do with Mortal Kombat, it's almost certainly the mirror matches that were in the original game. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 21:04, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Multiples again?

It should probably be noted that this is another instance of duplicate characters, both with the 3rd Homestar leg (which is obviously not part of homestar when he's shown on the basketball court) and possibly also because of the Shadow Homestar. 72.70.158.239 13:56, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Agree. Yeah we should probably note the third leg.-Record307 Talk/Contribs 14:10, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Done.-Record307 Talk/Contribs 19:23, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Except the three leg thing has really nothing to do with "shadow Homestar"... --71.58.29.180 23:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
No one said it did... — Defender1031*Talk 23:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Homestar's Arms

I'm no master at editing wikis, so I think I'll just mention it here. There should probably be something about how Homestar holds a big sock, then a big shoe, then a bigger sock, and then a bigger shoe, more than someone could hold with two hands (as he lifts them up seperately, and they don't move afterwards).

There is a place to do that. I'll try to find it for consistancy. - Opus the Penguin 17:39, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Try going here. I also added a remark on the article. - Opus the Penguin 17:51, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Okay, does anyone else think the Chaps are doing this on purpose now? I notice the whole "doing-things-that-would-require-more-than-two-arms" controversy has seemed to heighten somewhat on this wiki lately, so are they just adding fuel to the fire? Do they enjoy making those who try to find at least some level of vague sense-make in the cartoon squirm uncomfortably in their seats? (Not that I'm one of those people, I'm just sayin'. It's a weird co-weenky-dink.) Lucentas 21:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
I believe one of their commentaries mentioned the wiki, so they definitely know what goes on here. Probably amused their dumb little animal cartoon is causing so much silly bantering. My take is it's, 'relax, it's just a cartoon." And giant hands. Just because they're invisible doesn't mean they have to be normal sized!
He holds them up individually, so unless he has REALLY big fingers..... - Opus the Penguin 21:26, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Dream

When marzipan says that "the whole last season was just a dream", could this be a reference to the infamous ending of the Sopranos Tv series?

This is the fourth suggestion so far as to what show it's referring to. I think that pretty much makes it something that can't be pinned to any one thing. The other three are Roseanne, Dallas, and Newhart, as seen when i removed them here. — Defender1031*Talk 19:44, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Dallas did it first and is most famous for it. -132.183.151.21 21:20, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
The show Newhart is arguably the most famous as making the entire show was a dream in his earlier show. But I don't want to get into an argument about which is "more famous", because if one is mentioned, they all need to be. The best way is to make an ambiguous reference. - Opus the Penguin 21:33, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

There's a big controversy on how to include a remark about how "the entire last season was a dream." Why not just add a non-specific reference like; "Several prime-time shows have revealed in the season's last episode that the entire season had merely been a dream."? I'm not good at writing these things though, but i'm sure someone could make it sound very good and succinct. - Opus the Penguin 21:01, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Why hasn't anyone else thought of this? Nice idea. -Nonuser mster24
I'll take a shot at it. Lucentas 21:08, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Okay, it's up. Wasn't sure whether to put it in Explanations or Real-World References, but if I've erred someone can move it. I tried to word it as succinctly as I could, but of course if someone can reword it better, go for it. Lucentas 21:13, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Great summary, that's better than I could have put it. However, I believe that it belongs under Real-World references as it really isn't explaining anything rather than mention something said is referring to a real-life show(s). - Opus the Penguin 21:29, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Actually, general references to culture rather than references to something specific go in explanations. it's in the right place. — Defender1031*Talk 21:35, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
I almost changed it, but realized the same thing trying to rephrase it. I like it where it is. - Opus the Penguin 21:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
There has only been one show where they had an entire season which was a dream. That was Dallas. This is a direct, complete reference to Dallas. -Jdhannan
-as opposed to NEWHART which was only 8 seasons dreamed up. If I do my math right, NEWHART is 800% more direct than Dallas. My point is, there's more than one show which did that and we have the reference already in the article. We appreciate your input, but this has been discussed. Please see above. - Opus the Penguin 22:32, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, not necessarily. One could argue that, by the "math" of the transitive butt gimmick property, Dallas: 1 season = 100% direct reference by what Marzi said, whereas Newhart: 1 series/8 seasons = 0% direct reference by what Marzi said. And as much as love Bob Newhart, I really think Dallas is the most likely reference (this coming from someone who hasn't even seen Dallas, but is just familiar with certain famous attributes, this being one of them). Having said that, though, I don't think there's a strong enough case to put that specific one in the article, so I don't think there's any other way to do it, no matter how much I hate general, ambiguous references (I usually don't find 'em very useful). (Though I do maintain that Dallas did it first, in the 85-86 season (Newhart ended in 1990), and that they've referenced Dallas at least once in the past, with the Caleb Rentpayer thing.) -132.183.151.21 22:47, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
The Trope link, on the other hand, makes a general reference much more useful. Anonny satisfied! -132.183.151.21 23:27, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
First of all, it would be 800% AS direct, not 800% more direct. Secondly Newhart presumes the entire series was a dream (and entirely for comedic effect, not even pretending to be realistic). If marzipan had said the entire series was a dream, then it would make sense. Dallas is the only series to have had a "Dream Season" which is what Marzipan says -Jdhannan
The only point I was proving is that Dallas is not the only show that has done it (while Dallas may have been first). All I is saying is that it shouldn't be a specific reference. - Opus the Penguin 21:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Since when is TV Tropes Wiki a reliable source for anything? -Ingiald 19:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Since TBC started making reference to TV tropes... — Defender1031*Talk 19:38, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Show me where they did this. -Ingiald 00:46, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, there's two of them in this very toon, and tons of others all over the place. they spoof pop culture a lot. — Defender1031*Talk 00:50, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Oh. I thought you meant they referenced the TV Tropes website itself, in which case a link would be appropriate. As it is I don't see why the links shouldn't be replaced with Wikipedia articles that explain the concepts. -Ingiald

Homestar's Shoes?

Think it should be noted somewheres that Homestar's feet/shoes act like (and are referred to as) shoes in this toon? As far as I know, there's been a dispute over whether Homestar wears shoes or not, and this, especially the puppet show, could possibly confirm that he does.-Nonuser mster24

Or that he doesn't. Note the fact that in that one closeup, his supposed "shoes" have those gnarly wart-looking things and his leg region is shown to have hair, despite the fact that there's no clear boundary between his "shoes/feet" and his legs. Just another wrench in the works-of-clearing-up-ambiguity is my guess. Lucentas 21:08, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Either way, we include references to his shoes on Homestar Runner's Pants. --DorianGray 21:12, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Foot Pelts

Is this easter egg another instance of Strong Sad's implied death? Nightsong81 00:03, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Implied amputation isn't implied death. — Defender1031*Talk 00:57, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
It could go here though -> Severed Body Parts -02:00, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Why not? In modeling, Strong Sad informs Strong Bad that poachers have been after his feet.

Cow Clips

The "Cow Clips" Homestar uses on his shoes are Binder Clips, also known as Bulldog Clips. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binder_clip --Zonis 19:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

The transcript already calls them binder clips. — Defender1031*Talk 19:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Swiss-ness

"swiss miss" is a brand of hot cocoa and other food-esque items. to be included in real-world references? --Zatchman (Neumannz) 20:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

And many other things as well. — Defender1031*Talk 20:44, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Missle vs. Missal

When Homestar says "today's missle," I think he is actually saying "Today's Missal," a publication found at nearly every Catholic church. See: http://www.ocp.org/products/tm Also see the Wikipedia article on Missal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missal Should this be included in explanations or maybe real-world references?

It's a malapropism for "missive". "Missile" has the benefit of being one letter off. "Missal" does not. The pronunciation is the same. I say "missile" is fine. — Defender1031*Talk 00:22, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Long Pants

Remember when Strong Bad asserted that Homestar "simply has blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet"? Should that be mentioned?

Power forward

Why isn't power forward explained? 24.165.150.118 23:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Who knows? Feel free to add it if you'd like. —Guard Duck talk 23:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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