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Arturo 9000

Based on the loading screen, and the physical design when we see it in full, the Arturo 9000 actually looks more like a microfiche viewer than a computer. User:kyojikasshu 10:09, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

And, sure enough, the article gets edited as such, possibly even before I completed this post. User:kyojikasshu 10:11, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
What about Arturo being a reference to Dr. Arturo from Sliders? It's not a terribly common last name, and it's certainly the first thing a lot of people would think of. 139.78.10.24 16:00, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Arturo is a first name too, the Spanish equivalent of "Arthur." As such, it's pretty common. —Guard Duck talk 17:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
In the US, "Arturo" is a more common last name than "Chaps" :) --SDSpivey 17:11, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, so is Chapman. :P --24.143.101.207 00:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Homestar's Homestars

i'm wondering, should there be a note on the Homestar "Clothing" section that Homestar calls his stars Homestars?

-Lachlan

these sure get up fast

blink?

Could someone explain why Homestar's picture blinking is considered a "goof"? To me, it is something to be noted, since it is unusual, but how do we know it was not done intentionally? Clearly, TBC used a movie clip of H*R, and it gives the picture a funny Harry Potter feel. It doesn't seem like an error. wbwolf (t | ed) 17:55, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

If they wanted to give it a "funny Harry Potter feel", the whole picture would have moved. Meanwhile, the "Homestar" object they use is always rigged to blink, and sometimes they've been known to forget when showing Homestar in in-universe photographs. If the sheep chewing grass in the paused KoT video is a Goof, then so is this. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 18:03, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
With that explanation, it's more make-sense. wbwolf (t | ed) 18:05, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
(PS. Actually, modeling would have been a better example, as the KoT's page doesn't split its facts, but yeah. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 18:07, 26 January 2009 (UTC))
I say it's not a goof, but a mystery. I watch Homestar flash movies with Firefox with a "pause flash" extension I use sometimes. And, bizarrely, Homestar's eyes blink even when the flash is paused. --Hexagonal, an unregistered user.
Yeah, it's because the loop of Homestar's Eyes blinking is a Flash movie clip, which animates continuously. (See this for more information) —Guard Duck talk 23:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

its just like the wiki's homestar

If TBC do something notable by accident, it's a goof. If TBC do something notable on purpose, then it's a remark. To me, using a blinking Homestar in a photo is clearly a deliberate attempt by TBC to slip in a little humour that most of their viewers won't spot straight away (since their attention is on something else). Hence, I'd describe it as a remark, not a goof. In fact, if I was allowed to be supreme emperor of the wiki for just one day, I would move all these blinking facts to Remarks. Please explain to me how TBC are "known to forget" about leaving this Flash movie clip in inappropiate places. Considering the amount of time they spend creating each animation, they'd easily notice this blinking movie clip and could simply swap it for a static image of Homestar's eyes if so desired. Do you have any transcripts of interviews where they specifically mention their habit of making this so-called mistake? If so, fine. If not, I stand by my rant. – The Chort 18:44, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
I see no humor in them doing it on purpose. It's a lot more believable and frankly, more likely that they forgot to swap out the animation, as it just uses the same flash object. Also, if you were supreme emperor for one day, then the day after that, there'd be a lot of reverting going on. But i digress. The point is, it's more likely unintentional, so unless we have an interview that says it's on PURPOSE, i think it should remain a goof. — Defender1031*Talk 20:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
I can see where it'd be humorous. A better question, I think is, are there instances of Homestar being in static pictures where he doesn't blink? (I don't know the answer) If so, it's likely that this is a goof, but if he blinks every time he's in a picture, I think that that's evidence for it being intentional. I don't think they'd forget so often. Essentially, my question is, which happens more often: Pictures of Homestar blink, or they do not? -140.247.11.38 22:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
And, having just checked the modeling example, since he blinks at one point, but not another, it's probably a goof. -140.247.11.38 22:19, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Of course it's humorous. What could be funnier than a photo of Homestar that blinks when such a thing is impossible in real life? In any case, it probably doesn't really matter that much if it's a remark or a goof, so long as it's on the article. – The Chort 18:47, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

The Canadian Couple?

I wonder if that refers to the weekly fan stuff from Aug 05, the wedding invitation? That came from a Canadian couple. I hope so. That was me!

dweeoooowwwww

Would dweeoooowwwww be a reference to the the sound that the original paper made?--Shaggy | talk 20:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Not really, The Paper says Preeeow. That doesn't sound anything like that.--Record307 Talk/Contribs 20:45, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
It's just the narrator attempting to say "drawer" with Homestar's accent. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 21:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, Yellow Crayon...

Is it just me, or did the "brellow crown" incident happen directly after the end of DNA Evidence? As Strong Sad walks in, he says to his crayon, "Oh, yellow crayon, only you know what REALLY happened!" (Maybe he means the crayon knows why the site was non-updated for so long, I don't know.) This just seems like a ref to me. Probably not though. User:WeirdAl 22:14, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Uh, no, and I have no idea what you're talking about, frankly. MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 22:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
He's saying that maybe Homsar and Strong Sad weren't the only ones who knew the truth behind the DNA Evidence. But even then, that's a stretch. --69.150.85.66 22:19, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Mmm... seems unlikely to me. Seems just like standard Strong Sad for him to talk to inanimate objects about his secrets. Homestar-Winner (talk) 22:21, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Do we have an article on that? --69.150.85.66 22:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
{Edit Conflict twice} I would call it a reference if there was even the slightest mention of crayons in DNA evidence, but there is not. As such, I'd just explain it like the Exhibit A/B stuff in Bug in Mouth Disease. Just more curious insights from the Brothers Chaps. —Guard Duck talk 22:23, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Lumper?

I realize it's ambiguous, but am I the only person who heard "lumple" ? It rhymes with dumple, and sounds adorable. I'm imagining a wee pre-duckshirt Homestar being positively cute and doing what a lumple does.

Oh nevermind, they cleared it up in QOTW again! :)

The "lack of visible arms" mystery perhaps deepens

Homestar demonstrates the primary uses of the brellow crown, and when the sheets of paper appear on screen, they come from the bottom and he waves the crown around them as though they're really in front of him, rather than them just being animated in front of him "in post".

So that's four objects total, manipulated at once, which I would think notable enough to be a "Remark" if we're all in agreement that he is in fact manipulating those objects. It breaks his record of three objects (is that his record?) in the show. (For those who don't feel like checking, he holds a mic, requiring one arm, and manipulates a small deck of cards, requiring two more.)

What does everybody else think? Psi 01:15, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Everything you say is true (Well, the show isn't the only time he's manipulated 3 things. See the gross old wig). Still, I dunno if it's notable enough. -128.103.10.17 01:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, I think that it's possible for him to use only three arms, by doing this:
  • Holding the brœllow crayon with one arm.
  • Picking up the toast drawing with another.
  • Picking up the "zornets" drawing with the third.
  • Transferring the "zornets" drawing from the third arm to the second (by using his... fingers?).
  • Doing the same with the sun drawing.
But still, he could be using four arms, to save him the trouble of shuffling the papers a bit. But he doesn't appear to have much trouble holding his papers, so I guess he's using four arms. So... never mind. But it's possible that he only used three arms! — fuchsiania 03:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Homestar's email address

I remember seeing homestar's email address in another toon, but I don't remember which. His character page doesn't mention his email address either. What is the significance of the dj-whatever? Should it be a fun fact in this article? --67.161.16.203 03:24, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Have a look at email thunder; that's the other place you saw it. Heimstern Läufer 03:25, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Anyone besides me either like Kirby or think that the Brothers Chaps deliberately made the "click here to email Homestar" unclickable? Like it's a message that they aren't going to start doing Hremails from now on? I can has cheezeburger? but, a buttdanceNeox ONION BUBS!YOU WILL RESPECT MAH AUTHORI-TAH!!! 04:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Look again, it does not say "click here". — Defender1031*Talk 17:42, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Oh. Okay, then. Nevermind. Seriously though, anyone else like Kirby? ^_^ but, a buttdanceNeox ONION BUBS!YOU WILL RESPECT MAH AUTHORI-TAH!!! 19:22, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
What does Kirby have anything to do with this? — Defender1031*Talk 19:23, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Nothing. Absolutely nothing. I just like Kirby. but, a buttdanceNeox ONION BUBS!YOU WILL RESPECT MAH AUTHORI-TAH!!! 03:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Mumbling

I'm not sure if this should be added to the page, but it seemed to me that Homestar's mumbling in the colonial days scene was similar to the noises Homestar made when demonstrating the secret handshake of the Broternal Order of Different Helmets.--151.197.125.35 05:52, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

It's just mumbling, really. Can't say there's enough similarity. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 06:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
But it sounds exactly the same. It is "mm hum hoom hoom hum HOOM", in the exact same tone. --Jellote 20:43, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
I was just thinking about this, and I'd have to say they are almost exactly alike. Listen to the Hremail, and then listen to the Broternal Order. You'll start to see the similarity after about 11 times. Corruption 23:44, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Crowns

Homestar isn't really calling crayons "crowns," he's just pronouncing the word that way. The crown spelling is probably most accurate for the transcript, but other references should be spelled properly (crayon). That is, he says, "brellow crown," but he has a brellow crayon. This is a somewhat common pronunciation of the word in certain areas of the US. Google 'pronounce crayons crowns' (no quotes) and you'll see plenty of evidence.

Agree. No one calls crayons "crowns", but apparently a significant number of people (a few I've known personally) pronounce "crayon" such that it sounds that way. -132.183.151.94 16:32, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes. This is definately "crayons" pronounced with HR's accent. There's even a syllable in the making the finished word sound "cwou-ons" If it was "crowns" I would'nt have put that hyphen there. Strongkinghomsarsmith 00:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I think it's just Homestar being Homestar. Not really makes a lot of sense, but to Homestar... <_< >_> MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 00:28, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
When I was very young, I took music classes from this one guy. It was a LONG time ago, so I don't remember much (but then again, I can't remember a lot of things :P). But I DO remember a few things: I listened to Radio Disney on the drive there; there was a Domino's Pizza nearby; one time Fantasia was playing in the waiting room and I saw the monks holding candles walking through the forest, which was the Ave Maria part; 'the teacher liked to pronounce "crayons" "crowns". but, a buttdanceNeox ONION BUBS!YOU WILL RESPECT MAH AUTHORI-TAH!!! 04:58, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
I agree with MichaelXX2. It's not just a mispronunciation; Homestar is substituting a word with a different word which sounds similar, just like "light globes." MenacingBanjo 16:22, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

dosent anyone remember the sbemail coloring? in marzipan's *cough* cult *cough* homestar called them crowns. i think he thinks they are called crowns

smooth mouth

I noticed that sometimes Homestar's mouth closes more smoothly. Does this count as a character design update?
New design?
Religious Corn   20:33, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
I was going to mention that too. I also noticed that the shadow on the soles of his feet is lighter now. Omnisweater 20:41, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
It's not entirely new. It's been around at least since Coach Z's 110%, reportedly. As you can see by checking the history of that page, a new mouth animation doesn't really count as a design. --DorianGray 21:02, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Whenever he squints he has something below his eyes too. Notice in A Death-Defying Decemberween

Homestar's Computer

I distinctly remember in email thunder that Homestar had the Happy8600 for a computer. Why does he now have the Arturo 9000? Did anyone else notice this?

Do you also recall that Strong Bad poured Mountain Dew all over it, causing sparks? I think that's all that needs to be said. --DorianGray 22:13, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
But didn't that happen to Strong Bad's Computer in the hremail disguised as a sbemail? It worked. One of the very few spots where the old acts like the new. Meaty85203 04:17, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

"Grammatically Incorrect" Remark

Homestar's use of "a photo of Marzipan and I" is grammatically incorrect. The proper grammar would be "a photo of Marzipan and me."

Beside this being unnecessary, wouldn't the proper one BE "Marzipan and I"? –24.118.124.166 22:22, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Nope. (though it is kinda unnecessary. "Fun" facts, and all.) -140.247.11.38 22:25, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
We've discussed this in another toon, and it's just as incorrect here as it was then. Rule of thumb:
  • If you can replace "[person] and I" with "us", then it should be "me". If with "we", then it should be "I". ("Last up on the tour is this photo of we"???)
  • If you remove "person" from the sentence, then the pronoun will remain the same. ("Last up on the tour is this photo of I"???)
"[person] and I" is more correct than "me and [person]" in the subject of a sentence, but not the object. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 22:48, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Homestar's grammar is rarely correct
Perhaps, but the imaginary grammar rule that Homestar "followed" is considered correct by enough people, and there is no joke associated with his incorrect usage, that I think it was more likely TBC's mistake, not Homestar's. As per the last time we had this discussion, see this page. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 03:28, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Yup, this remark is a perfectly good fact. As a note on 140.247's remark: The word "fun" in "Fun Fact" is really just for alliteration. A more accurate term would be "noteworthy facts", but that doesn't sound nice, so we call them "fun facts". It's definitely worth noting Homestar's/TBC's error. Heimstern Läufer 03:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Indeed. This should be kept, for all reasons stated. — Defender1031*Talk 03:39, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
I disagree wholeheartedly. It should be dropped, not because it's true or untrue, but because it's not worth mentioning. The Homestar Runner crew makes grammatical mistakes (both intentional and unintentional) all the time. It's such a minor thing, it's REALLY not worth pointing out at all. The "fun fact" should be removed without question. 0rion 13:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
I was under the impression that we noted all of Strong Bad's stnanks because he's such a stickler. Do we also afford the same scrutiny to Homestar (or any other character)? As 0rion said, TBC make mistakes all the time. What makes this instance notable, besides the mere fact that it's true? — It's dot com 16:41, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Because it's not a purposeful one and it's one that people commonly think is correct but isn't? — Defender1031*Talk 16:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm all for educating the masses, but my central question remains: Do we nitpick the rest of the characters in the same way we do Strong Bad? (If we do, it would be great for someone to list some examples. (Homsar and Senor Cardgage don't count.) Nothing springs to mind right away, and I'm not sure what to search for. We have a page for deliberately poor English, but the consensus here seems to be that this mistake is unintentional.) — It's dot com 16:55, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
well, in a case where the grammar is a blatant speaking style (ex. "aint" vs. "aren't") or something clearly intentional because that's how the character speaks, i don't think it needs any sort of comment. But i'm all for being grammar police when it comes to mistakes that are clearly unintentional, such as this one. — Defender1031*Talk 16:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, there's the situation that Dippin' Dots's name comes from, but that's the only thing I can really think of... (And I think that particular case is much more notable than this one..) -132.183.151.187 00:50, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

DNA Evidence reference?

Strong Sad's quote "only you know what really happened" is a reference to DNA Evidence. StarFox 04:17, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Not necessarily... -YKHi. I'm Ayjo! 04:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Twenty Twelve

It's been added to the page at least twice, so let me just squish this annoying little "fact": first of all, there's no evidence that the Mayans believed the world would end in 2012; that's just how far their calendar went (for reasons similar to the fact 2000 is significant; ie. numerical reasons, not actual significance reasons.) Secondly, the calendar ends in December of 2012, not July! And one more thing: it has nothing to do with this toon. They could have picked 2011 or 2020 or whatever and the joke (such that there was one) would have been the same. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 10:35, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree, it's just a coincidence. --71.58.29.180 13:05, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Personally, I wouldn't put it past the creators to have Homestar create a park featuring dinosaurs which would be "extinct" later that year. The relevance isn't about what the Mayans did or didn't believe. It's about what some people believe today (whether or not they have evidence to back it up). It's popular knowledge and it's not out of the question that the creators would use it. Having said that, if it was a joke referring to the Mayan calendar, it could have been set up better, like setting it in November.
I'd say, if it was a joke referring to the Mayan calendar, it would have been set up at all; there was no setup to such a joke besides naming a year that happens to be three years from now. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 03:53, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Could we note that Homestar calls it "twenty twelve" while the 'narrator,' who has yet to be added, calls it "two thousand twelve"? I always perfer the first version over the second just like I do the Blu-ray Disc logo over the {shudder} HD DVD logo.--97.72.193.36 23:35, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

brellow crayon and/or stars page

Should the brellow crayon (and potentially the "old homestars") have an article? They seem to meet the "Be unique to homestar runner and play a significant role in one toon" requirement. -132.183.138.31 15:31, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Dance your twees to Sal Soul

The picture of the sun with an afro being titled "Sal Soul" is most likely a reference to either

Not sure whether to put one, the other, both, or neither. I'll leave it to the community at large. Agnamaracs 18:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm afraid he's mistaken. The Picture said Sol Soul. Not sal soul. And there's already an explanation on the page already.---Record307 Talk/Contribs 20:15, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
It could definitely still be a reference. There's nothing that says a parody has to match its basis's spelling exactly. And the logo for salsoul records does resemble the picture a lot (I don't know anything about the other option given). Still, sol and soul are homophones, and it's definitely not a huge stretch to imagine that they arrived at the joke independently. So in the end, I'm not sure. -132.183.138.31 20:38, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
It's more likely that "Sol" refers to the proper name for the sun, Sol. The "Soul" part likely refers to the afro, and its connections to the 80s. Strongkinghomsarsmith 15:36, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

honymoon photo

can we get the honey moon photo flash decomplied please? (to see the whole picture) TheThin 22:15, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Its obviously just marzipan--Luis123 01:56, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Not necessarily. TBC occasionally hide things in the flash, and this is the exact type of place where they would do it. We won't know until we decompile. — Defender1031*Talk 01:58, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
There isn't anything. I just checked. Omnisweater 02:13, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

OK so, I don't know how to decompile. Could somebody tell me how? I want to see some of these flash decompiler easter eggs. Coach 's Cool! 03:52, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I'm interested as well! Son 20:43, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, decompiling Flash files is pretty simple, all you need is a certain decompiler program, like Flash Decompiler Trillix, or something. Most of these programs cost money, but there are demo versions available. ThePizz Pick 20:50, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

my 21st birthday is 1 month away from homestar's park completion.

I'll be 21 in August 2012. --The 386 My talk 01:18, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

You know, this is a GREAT thing to say on the forum... not so great to say here though. — Defender1031*Talk 01:20, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Bro-ellow

Okay, it seems that, for a while, everyone insisted on calling the crayon "brœllow". Now DorianGray and Phlip are swinging the pendulum back the other way to "brellow". To begin: Any arguments about pronunciation are moot: "œ" can be pronounced as a soft "E" (and its other correct pronunciation is as a long "E" - you basically never pronounce it as if it has an "O".) So don't argue that point. Argue instead on your own preference: "brœllow" is closer to what's written on the crayon, while "brellow" is easier to write. Me? Undecided, I just want the Wiki to pick one and stick with it. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 10:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I say we stick to what's written on the crayon. brœllow We have plenty of redirects in place for people to get to it without the œ. — Defender1031*Talk 10:48, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
But the crayon only really says "brœllow" when you're horribly scaled in... at normal zoom levels, it's just "br[tiny sliver of o]ellow". There's also the question of what is least likely to confuse the reader... especially, for the subtitles, a reader who hasn't heard it being said aloud. And despite what you say, the fact is that "œ" (or, for that matter, "oe") in English to represent a short "e" is all but extinct... even it representing a long "e" is going out of fashion, and most readers will associate "oe" with words like "foe" or "shoe" or any of the other pronunciations which do pronounce the "o". Now, I'd go for "œ" if the toon made any reference to it being that... any jokes, or even mention it at all... but it doesn't. --phlip TC 11:13, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm with Phlip, basically for the sake of keeping it simple. I'd be totally cool with noting on the article that it can be seen as saying "brœllow" (depending on how closely you bother looking), but the default might as well be the more obvious spelling. Heimstern Läufer 11:21, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Not that i'm happy with it, but i'd propose a compromise where when it's actually spoken about like in a quote or transcript of subtitles it says "brellow" while when we're just writing ABOUT it it says "brœllow". The crayon is LABELED "brœllow" and that's how it should be presented when written. I'm also betting that if the flash is decompiled that under the yellow line it actually says "œ". — Defender1031*Talk 15:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, can you do that decompliation? Anyway, I'd prefer brellow. It's much simpler and easier for the reader.-128.103.10.17 18:08, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't have either a decompiler, or a computer i can install one on. — Defender1031*Talk 18:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Mathematically proven
Nope. It's just the text "BROWN", with the right half covered by the yellow shape, and the word "YELLOW" (which has been converted to a shape, and its left part erased... possibly by hand, possibly flattened by the Flash compiler automatically removing a mask or something). I don't think having it be spelled differently in the transcripts and elsewhere is the right solution... consistency is important, having two standards for the spelling will only be confusing. I think it should be "Brellow" everywhere, but I agree with Heimi, that I wouldn't be opposed to a Trivia item that mentioned "Brœllow". --phlip TC 21:15, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Seeing as they don't use the OE thing in the actual flash object, I don't think we should in our transcripts either. -128.103.10.17 21:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
I know when i've been beat. Brellow it is! Just have it noted SOMEwhere that it could be oelig'd please. — Defender1031*Talk 21:22, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
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