Talk:Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe

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There are lots of inconsistencies in the Homestar Runner universe; some are clearly intentional, some are probably not, and most fall somewhere in between. We already have places to note these on the individual toons' pages when they come up; why have a totally separate page for them? --Jay (Talk) 00:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Is it just me, or is this page basically what the Goofs section in every single transcript page is for? — Lapper (talk) 00:45, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it could be a page for contradictory things in Homestar Runner? That's a little less vague. —Shwoo 00:48, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Shwoo's idea might work out. This is basically an organizational thing. If I wanted to find all the inconsistencies right now, it would take me FOREVER. Being spread out among dozens of pages, I would probably never find many of them, since a search for "inconsistencies" brings up 4 results. It's just a way to make things easier to find. And that's the point right? Making information easily accessable for everyone else. · · T²|_Things 00:49, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

But if you notice an inconsistency in a toon, is that not what the Goofs section is for? Why not search "goofs" and see what you get? — Lapper (talk) 00:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Not every goof is an inconsistancy. Looking at the goofs on the wiki, most of them are of the "Strong Bad spelled a word wrong" or "the animation looks weird" type.—Shwoo 00:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Shwoo is right. Only major inconsistencies are mentioned anyway, and most of the minor ones are ignored. You can search "goofs" all you want, it will come up with a result for every cartoon page on the entire wiki, and that won't help you in any way whatsoever locate your inconsistencies. This page at least deserves a chance, but then again, all of my pages were deleted before they had a chance...· · T²|_Things 01:03, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I want to give this page a chance . The bits like how the Lappy have 10 MB instead of 5 MB is a good one. I'm still not removing the {{tobedeleted}} template, but I'm for this page. — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 09:48, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

This is interesting. I'll bet you the Star Trek wiki (if there is one even, I haven't looked) lists at least the major things where continuity is broken within the universe. (If they don't, maybe they should....) Internal inconsistencies are pretty interesting to most people. Creators of a universe also create a world of "fact" which is bound to certain expectations; when the facts fall short of those expectations, it's clearly notable. I see this page as a place to list all the major issues where "Homestar geeks" (read: geekier than us) would argue about which way of looking at things is the one best supported by the canon. I say allow this to develop for a while; if it does, keep. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  10:05, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

If this page is kept, it should be renamed Retcons. --Trogga 16:11, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Technically, a "retcon" is not when the creators merely contradict themselves, but when they indicate that the new version of "reality" is the correct one. For example, if TBC released a toon telling how Strong Bad and Homestar were friends in their childhood, that may be considered a retcon as it intentionally changes the account from flashback. The Strong Sad navel drilling might be part of a retcon. But the disk space of the Lappy changing isn't really a retcon, by my read of its definition. And The Cheat being unable to say "Dennis" yet being able to voice characters in his animations is a close call. Additionally, not only is "inconsistencies" a bit more wide-reaching than "retcon" but is a more well-known term that will be a bit more accessible to readers not up on words not found in the Oxford Dictionary. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  00:57, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Long live this page! The more the merrier!--Theyellowdart 16:53, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't consider all the site's inconsistencies as "goofs"; the main reason being that inconsistencies often appear between two or more different toons (or games), whereas goofs happen in one toon only. For example, the Trogdor-Peasant's Quest inconsistency (see article) is, of course, between TROGDOR! and Peasant's Quest. An example of a goof (or, in this case, a remark) would be Strong Sad's "covered bridge" obsession seen in Fall Float Parade, which began and ended in one cartoon. My bottom line is that there is a difference, and I therefore vote No Delort. — ^Sam_{Fisher (Come in, Lambert.)} 14:58, 4 December 2005

There, I just added an inconsistancy in the King of Town DVD Commentary. I think this is enough info for no deletion. Keep this page. I found it useful. --Theyellowdart 21:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

So is it okay to take the {{tobedeleted}} template off now? It's been over two weeks. —Shwoo 00:53, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

I believe that would be a good idea. Now about that moving. I don't think that the name needs to be changed.--H*Bad 03:02, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Strong Sad's Apparel

• There are several places where Strong Sad wears a "one-time type" article of clothing, ("The Blue Ones," "The Sturge" t-shirt, the two Geddup Noise shirts, etc). I think these should be left out in this section. The "wildebeest pheromones in his laundry" is more consistent with the whole"inconsistency" thing, because it's as though he's saying he always wears clothes (I think. Sorry, but I'm having trouble explaining what I mean.) I think there's another instance of this type of discrepancy, but I can't remember where it is... kai lyn 22:37, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
• True dat. I made that edit. Leave it out, then... TheYellowDart—(t/c)

Compy screen width and length

It's been very inconsistent, through the main Strong Bad view, and through examples in replacement and huttah!. --Addict 2006 00:02, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

What I mean is the width has been 4:3'd at times and then it's a bit wider... --Addict 2006 00:03, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Hm. It's true. I say it can go on the page. Anyone else? TheYellowDart—(t/c)

The chair

Here's one to add: In the chair, Strong Bad gets a new chair, but in what i want, he's back to the stool.

That's not an inconsistency, Strong Bad just went back to Stooly. --TotalSpaceshipGirl3 12:07, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Tongue or no tongue?

I just realized: In the DVD version of Homestar Runner's theme song video, Homestar sticks out his tongue while figuring out an answer for the test, but there are TONS of times when he says words with the letter "L" in them without lifting it. Not to mention Strong Mad, who had his tongue out while carving "DAGRON" on the table, but no tongue present when he says "L" words or any words with "L" in them. See also Remarks in retirement. This whole description should count as a long-lasting inconsistency, shouldn't it? -(Feb. 3, 2007)

This delves into the topic of "cartoon physics". In short, we don't know the method these "dumn animal characters" use to produce the phoneme /l/. One might assume it's the same as we do, given the presence of a tongue, but that's not necessarily the case. When two apparently conflicting facts can in some way coexist within a cartoon, that's not really an inconsistency in my mind. When they cannot be reconciled based on each simply having to be impossible given the other, that's an inconsistency. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  15:43, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Anti Chicken-Wings

I think it's kind of unnecessary to be arguing over the "chicken wings" thing. I made this article for inconsistencies and goofs IN-BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT TOONS, not within the same toon. That's the Goofs section. If we really can't decide, then someone should STUFF it.· · T²|_Things 03:28, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Senior Prom "Inconsistency"

I would argue that it's not an inconsistency for Strong Bad to say he never wears underwear, only to be revealed wearing underwear in senior prom. I mean, we don't know how many years earlier that toon is. That's like someone saying "I never wear diapers," and being called a liar because they wore diapers as a baby. Sure, to be more accurate he could've said, "I never wear underwear anymore", but I'm still not sure. Michelle Mabelle 11:04, 21 February 2007 (UTC)