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I guess living in Hawaii means I'm the only one awake. :-P Anyway, I don't really know the procedures and protocols for the transcripting and the placenaming and characterlisting, so I'll stay out of that. And I don't have a forum account, so I won't post a thread there, I guess. But I started this off. Grumblebaker 03:28, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

That's good to know. But it doesn't need to go here, sorry. MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 03:34, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

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Rapid blinking

Right after Homestar says Strong Bad "has to be quicker next time" he begins blinking at a very excessive rate. What do you think? a goof? a remark? What say you? --Domestibot

You're right. Has anyone else noticed this? MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 21:11, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Yeah. I think it should go in "remarks". Flicky1991 21:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Carti-what Bode-what

well, trying to figure out the devil the couplets are called, and wondering: bodélé depression is a place in the sahara desert (depression?) and cartier is a what? (although there is a alain chartier who was a french poet) thoughts or alternatives? --Neumannz 06:28, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

The name Bodélé doesn't seem to exist outside of that obscure Sahara Desert reference. By contrast, Bodelet, like Cartier, is a common French surname, and is a more likely spelling. -Lydia
I was thinking perhaps it was Homestar's pronunciation of Baudelaire? Perhaps a portmanteau with a Cartier Somebody whom I don't know about? (On a related note, "beige malaise" yields a surprising number of hits predating this toon.) —AbdiViklas 13:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Potato who?

What does one-potato-two-potato mean? I mean, does it mean something or did they just make it up? --Cass from Germany 09:59, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

It's a kind of counting-out game. --DorianGray 10:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Coincidence?

I think that the Sideways Stories From Wayside School reference is just a coincidence. I don't think they were referencing that at the time, I think it was just something odd homestar did.

You're right. I can't see any link between this toon and that (obscure?) childrens' book. Strong Bad did not lose because of his poor kicking ability. Strong Bad lost because Strong Sad caught the ball. There is no connection, apart from the fact that kickball features in both media. Stretch.The Chort 12:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
There is a slight connection in that Ron's team consisted of only himself and Louis, versus a much larger team, but I agree that it's a stretch anyways. --DorianGray 13:41, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

weclome back

The music in this toon sounds like the music from Weclome Back. --FangoriouslyFotoshopStar.png 14:31, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

It's noted in the trivia section already. — Defender1031*Talk 16:15, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Title

Why does the title card say "Kick-a Ball!" if the Toons menu says "Kick-A-Ball"? -132.183.151.140 17:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Bubs

Does Bubs look a little different to anyone else? I think it's something with his eyes.--Thy Not Dennis (t/c) 18:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

You can also see the bottom line of a mouth at one point. - Guy in a Box 20:58, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Sonic?

During the coin toss, Homestar sounds like he's saying "Sides" instead of "Sonic". Anyone think that?

That "Sonic" is much more funny. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 16:37, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
I honestly can hear it eaither way. If i'm listening for "Sonic" I hear "Sonic". If i listen for "sides" i head "sides". If i'm not listening for anything specific i hear "sah". I say we give TBC the benefit of the doubt and go with the funnier one, which is clearly "sonic". — Defender1031*Talk 16:48, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Strong Mad's first crap

  • This marks the first time Strong Mad has ever said crap.

I've removed this fact several times for not being notable, and it keeps getting put back, so rather than revert warring, i'm bringing it here. I don't think it's notable to mention the first time people say words, whether it's a running gag word or not. — Defender1031*Talk 17:11, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for pointing this out, but that is the funniest header I've ever read. DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 17:14, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
That was the point. Now how about an opinion? — Defender1031*Talk 17:15, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
I knew Strong Mad's mental capacity was around that of a kindergartener, but I didn't realize he was just now being potty trained. But in seriousness, I agree with Defender. Also, thank you for using talk in this situation. -132.183.151.140 17:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Haven't we had similar discussions of this before? I think it was on 3 Times Halloween Funjob, wherein Marzipan said "crap". See also Talk:3 Times Halloween Funjob#Unnotable. --DorianGray 20:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
I think there's a case for including it for Marzipan, since it seems a bit out of character for her. (Not saying we should add it there; just that there's a case.) I don't think it's too out of character for Strong Mad, though, so I wouldn't note it here. Heimstern Läufer 04:00, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
I don't really think it's worth mentioning. Then again, I don't think we need an article listing every time Strong Bad smiles (which probably happens even more often than a character says "crap") so make of my opinion what you will.Some kind of scientist 15:10, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
I'd agrae, put it on, put it on, put it on! User:MICGAGUH

I think it should be noted. It really surprised me when I read it, how Strong Bad's biggest lackey, and a main character for 9 years, never said the word "crap". Elcool (talk)(contribs) 16:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Commish again

Is it worth noting that SB's rule change signature of "The Commish" is probably a reference to the TV show of the same name? It's been referenced before as one of the tapes in the VCR on the Character Videos page. 71.254.118.93 02:28, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't think its a reference to that. For all we know, it could be a reference to those "Commish" Bud-Light commercials. But I think the gag is just a reference to professional sport commissioners as a whole. DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 15:53, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Don't know what the exact relevance of this is, but the phrase "Signed, the commish" appears in the video game The Longest Journey. The main character uses it when forging filling out a work order form. I just came across it when replaying the game, and dashed here immediately to tell about it. Aaronak 06:26, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Isle of Pom?

Do you think the island that Tim-Tom was on could've been the Isle of Poms? Just a thought...

Actually, that's not an unlikely possiblity. Note that Tim Tom seems to live near a beach, whereas The Isle of Poms, for no logical reason whatsoever, resembles a medicine capsule. Perhaps the beach is part of the Isle of Poms and TBC have decided to abandon the idea of a capsule for a proper island. It's a bit speculative at the moment though, so I wouldn't jump to any conclusions and start changing the articles until TBC release another toon set on the Isle of Poms. – The Chort 19:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Tim-Tom?

How do we know what Tim-Tom's name is? I don't see anything regarding it.

Strong bad claims that the ball is Pom Pom's cousin, then Homestar says "You mean Tim Tom?" Omnisweater 21:39, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


Oooooooooo...Kay?

Can Strong Bad saying Oooooo.. kay be a reference to Teen Girl Squad 11, where So and So says it?---Record307 Talk/Contribs 18:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

I doubt it, it'd be "ummkay" if that were the case. — Defender1031*Talk 18:09, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Basically the same thing.--Record307 Talk/Contribs 19:00, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Don't think it's too similar. Even another "umm kay" wouldn't seem like a reference to me - they're just things people say... Flicky1991 21:49, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Unfair Pick

So I've been thinking about this for a few days and finally reached the following Conclusion: Strong Sad was on Strong Bad's Team even though Homestar called him. Allow me to explain, because this obviously contradicts the toon. First, Homestar picks Pom-Pom. Strong Bad makes a pick AND THEN Homestar picks Pom-Pom again, which also counts as a valid pick. Cut to Strong Sad, Homestar yells out Pom-Pom first and then another thing, making that his valid picks and nullifying his double-side-whisper-draft because it would have to be a triple-side-whisper-draft to account for the third pick (which I cannot remember), instead of Strong Sad. He also allows Strong Bad to pick Strong Sad as a team-mate without calling the whisper draft (perfectly legal according to the "rule" book) and telling him he can't in much the same way he did with Pom-Pom. By not calling Strong Sad then, he nulled his own cheating by allowing Strong Bad to pick. So there it is, let the "your wrong"s abound! Stinkoblade 13:52, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Au the contrary. Strong Bad never technically called Strong Sad either, merely telling him to play 8th base. He was given the opportunity, but never took advantage of it. So Strong Sad is either on Homestar's team, or on no team at all. -76.119.99.198 14:36, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Didn't Homestar just say "Bullpen!" which would probably be like saying to get over to the "bullpen" which would refer to Homestar's team, which would mean the second thing he exclaimed wasn't a pick?--Topmonhit 18:56, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Yep. Flicky1991 18:03, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Ultimately, this is a case of Strong Bad being hoisted by his own petard, so to speak. He has a tendency to make "convenient rule changes" in order to allow him to do things normally not allowed by the rules of the game, but this is one of the few times it's worked against him. --President Cold One 15:38, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

They can't fill all the positions, can they?

Wow. Can't believe I'm actually doing this. Er, uh, when The Cheat "kicks" the ball, Homestar's feet are behind home plate; when he lands near the base, Homestar's feet appear again on the field near the base. Would this count as Duplicate Characters or no since the feet don't appear at the exact same time (which actually would be like in Homestar Ruiner anyway so...) And while I'm asking stuff, it's mentioned in the transcript while Homestar is repeating what the Announcer said that The Cheat was on the base behind him, but it doesn't mention Strong Sad could be seen in the background during the Announcer's scene. Just wondering if there's a reason for that.--Topmonhit 18:56, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

And Strong Sad

If you slow down what homestar said, does it really say "and strong sad"? TheThin 19:58, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Probably not. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 21:02, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
No. He says the same thing, just slowed down a bit. I checked. Shwoo 02:40, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

And I have no idea who I'm commenting to!

This is really more of a side note, but it's one that has kinda been bugging me for a while. Does anyone else think that the Announcers comment that he doesn't know who he's broadcasting to be included as an inside reference to just how severely underpopulated Free Country, USA apparently is? I'm not sure myself if it should be noted, or if it's enough to just mention it here in the discussion.-- DongleGoblin 17:41, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Hmm... I never thought of it like that, but since all main characters but one were playing in the match, I suppose it probably is a reference to that. You can add it if you like. Flicky1991 18:25, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
I would call that explaining the joke. Yes, that's exactly what they're referring to. — Defender1031*Talk 17:30, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Also that nobody would really be interested in listening to a kickball match.

KOT Can't Jump

The part where the king of town strikes out may be a reference to Super Kingio Bros. Or it's just keeping consistency...

You don't need to be able to jump to play kickball. The movement was just to show that he was trying (and failing) to kick the ball. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 00:03, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Because of his lack of visible legs, they needed to add the jump to show that he even bothered trying. --President Cold One 14:37, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Arial view of homestar

This is not the only video where you can see an arial view of Homestar. You can see another view of him in Best Caper Ever, if you take a close up view of him on the satellite view. The Pony man 00:47, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Little Stevie

Could this be a reference to Stevie Wonder? He first became popular when he was a kid, going by the name "Little Stevie Wonder". TreeWithAChainsaw 22:08, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

"Good game"

I think the bit at the end when the characters walk past each other repeating the phrase "good game" in a slightly melancholy fashion is a reference to the Richard Linklater film "Dazed and Confused", in which a similar scene takes place. This being a movie reference would explain the sudden change in mood in all characters. If this has already been mentioned and dismissed, then I apologise. It does sound very much like the sort of thing TBC would reference though, and it made me smile.

Um, no, it's a reference to the fact that, after most sporting events, the teams traditionally meet each other face-to-face and say "good game" or the like to each other. It happens in the real world. Also notice that nobody on Strong Bad's team actually says "good game". --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 23:12, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Actually, it sounds just like Dazed and Confused. Homestar says "good game" but everyone on Strong Bad's team says "yeah, right" which is exactly how it happened in the baseball game in Dazed and Confused.
Seeing this scene in the movie made me immediately rush to this article to see if it was listed as a reference. There is no doubt. It's not just the half-hearted "good game"s, Jay, it's the "yeah right" responses as well. This also wouldn't be the first time TBC has referenced Dazed and Confused.--Vegeta897 04:21, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Nineteen-eighty-why

It appears we have a dispute about when the Umpire says Mookie whoever gave his aunt the kickball here. I'll grant that the final "n" is a bit unclear, but the initial "n" in "nine" is quite clear, meaning it can't be "1980i". Furthermore, the explanation of what "1980i" means strikes me as a real stretch and is inconsistent with the antecedent to this joke in Strongest Man in the World, where it's just a simple year (in that case, 1974). Therefore, I think it's quite clear The Umpire is just saying "nineteen-eighty-nine". Heimstern Läufer 10:44, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Um, while I agree with the fact that it's 1989 and that 1980i is a severe stretch, the Umpire doesn't say it. Homestar does. The Umpire says 1984 in the Easter egg. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 17:00, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah that. I was watching too many parts of this toon at once. All those years sort of blend together. Heimstern Läufer 01:04, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

combat boots

"Your mother wears combat boots" is a reference to the Sandlot, is it not? --75.104.128.36 17:38, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it is not. There has been both a book, and a made for TV movie with the title. As an insult that has been around since at least the WWII era, and had a stint of popularity in the 1980's. There doesn't seem to be a clear known origin of the phrase. 98.222.134.36 18:22, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
The best origin story I found is here. --President Cold One 15:28, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Luxo Jr.

This is the first Pixar short, Luxo Jr. It's very famous in the animation industries. What's also interesting is that the ball, with a single stripe and a star, is known to appear in other Pixar movies. Could the kickball be a reference to the Luxo ball? The colors are different, but how common is a ball with a single stripe and a star? What do you think? Elcool (talk)(contribs) 20:56, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Likely not. The umpire states in the Easter Egg that he got the ball in 1984. Luxo Jr. was released in 1986. That'sBupkis! 01:29, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Umm... it doesn't matter when something in-universe happened for it to be a reference. This toon was released in 2009, and the Theme Song Video, in which the ball first appeared, was released in 2000. That said, I still don't think there's enough for a reference, as the coloring on the ball isn't the same as in luxo jr. — Defender1031*Talk 01:54, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I figured the design was supposed to be based on the design of Homestar. Homestar-Winner (talk) 02:07, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Honest to God

Would this be the first time the've referenced something religious?

Well, not only was the line in question stated in Strongest Man in the World, but it's also not that religious. I know of several atheists who occasionally will say "oh my god" when surprised. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 23:52, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Religion. The Knights Who Say Ni 23:54, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

"8th base" explanation please?

As someone who knows nothing about kickball - or baseball for that matter, since as I understand it kickball is based on baseball? - what does 8th base mean? Any chance of getting an explanation for that in the article? Sordyne 13:20, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

In baseball (and by extension kickball), there are bases to which you must run. They are entitled first, second, and third base. The goal of the game is: after hitting the ball (via bat or foot), to run to each of these bases in succession. After the third base, you return to home plate, at which time your team scores a point. There are people at the opposing team who "play" each base, whose job it is to catch the ball before you get there, thereby forcing you to sit down until you can hit again and forfeiting the opportunity for you to obtain points that turn.
Strong Sad is told to play "eighth base", a position that does not exist under standard rules, likely as a way to just get him out of the way so he doesn't interfere with the game. --DorianGray 13:28, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
I hung a link to kickball in the intro. I think that's plenty. From there, there are links to baseball and softball if the reader wants more info on running and fielding the bases, scoring runs, and so on. — It's dot com 17:21, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Whisper draft

A recently added remarks states that Homestar's whisper draft when slowed down actually sounds like "wait". However, I think it's hard to determine exactly what he's saying because:

  • The compression of the audio on the site is higher than the less-lossy audio on YouTube and the DVDs. This affects the quality of the slowdown.
  • The music in the background could affect Homestar's whisper, in addition to the above point.

On top of this, is this remark necessary? I feel like it's taking the joke apart a little bit. Anyway, before anyone rebuts, I want to point out that Homestar starts by saying "Pom Pom, bull pen", and not "Pom Pom, Strong Sad" (or "Strong Bad") in the file. I know that's what I was hearing at first. Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 23:29, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

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