Editing Talk:Limozeen vs. Sloshy

==Transcript==
How are we gonna do this one? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:32, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:No idea at all, which is pretty much why all I put there was a template. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] <small>[[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]]</small> 07:34, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

::How about a different section for each song, with the exception of the original version of Because It's Midnite (we can just link to [[Because It's Midnite]], assuming they're same (I think they are)). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:39, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::: I own the CD and I'm not sure they're identical exactly, but they're definitely close enough if they're not. I can compare when I find said CD. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:43, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Oh, I guess there's nothing more to sloshy's song than was in the QotW. So, we can just link to [[sloshy]] for the original version of that song too. Also, it looks like perhaps we should put the original lyrics to "We Don't Even Really Care About You" on [[sloshy]] &mdash; that seems like the best place for them, rather than creating a separate page at [[We Don't Even Really Care About You]]... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:45, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::::BTW, the reason I thought it might not have been the original was because the lead singer doesn't seem to have Larry's overexaggerated voice, but it's like that on the CD too. Maybe that was pre-Larry's-overexaggerated-voice-being-a-standard. ;) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:47, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Limozeen_vs._Sloshy&diff=499198&oldid=499197 This}} looks great as a format to start with. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:57, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::I don't think it ''is'' the same one as on the CD. Trust me, it's different. Lyrically, it's the same, but the sound is different. I'm not a music expert or anything, so I can't toss out any terms or instruments, but it IS different. I'd bet my <small>(forum)</small> account on it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:06, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I listened to both together. I didn't listen all the way through, but the intros were 100% identical. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:11, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I'm currently playing both versions simultaneously. There is no difference. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:13, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Waaaait a minute, are you all suggesting that the CD version (played by LIMOZEEN) is the same as the one here  (played by SLOSHY)? They're completely different musically and the only similarities between the lead vocals are because they're both Matt Chapman. &mdash;{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 13:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::No, he's talking about the music you hear when you click "hear the original". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:19, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::It sounds to me like the sound quality was reduced. It may be higher than it normally is for the toons, but CD quality it ain't. If you're talking mp3, CD quality is at about 128 kbps (that's KiloBits Per Second) and this sounds like it may be somewhere around half that rate. Which, I think, is consistent with it being converted from stereophonic (stereo) to monaural (mono). {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:34, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::The audio quality in this toon is 22kHz, mono, 32kbit/s MP3 (cf: CD audio, which is 44kHz, stereo, 16bit lossless - comparable to MP3 at around 128 or 192 kbps. Also cf: [[bike thief]]'s audio is 11kHz, mono, 16kbit/s MP3). Just throwing that pointless piece of trivia out there. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 17:45, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

==Members of sloshy==
Shouldnt there be a page about the members of sloshy? Or is that to the least importance. {{User:Foop/sig}}Foop 12:13, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

:Unfortunately, there's not much more known about them yet, but [[sloshy]] could probably be updated, at very least with a picture of their cartoon versions. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:28, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

==Length==
Do you think it's worth a Remark that both songs are exactly the same length (1:35)? It just seems like it might be interesting, or possibly even deliberate. [[User:69.70.248.73|69.70.248.73]] 12:39, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
: I also notice that Because, It's Midnite is missing a verse; if that verse was there, they would no longer be the same length. I don't know how intentional it is, but hey, always open to discussion on the Talk page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:33, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::Since nobody's said anything against it, I'm gonna go ahead and put that in the article. It's more of a point of interest than a fact, so I'm putting it in Remarks. [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 00:23, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

== Chucks and not Sneakers ==

The left foot has a [[wikipedia:Chuck Taylor All-Stars|chuck]] on, not a sneaker. I'm pretty sure it is but just to be cautious: anyone dis/agree? {{User:Punching Kittens/sig}} 19:54, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:Good thing we have [[Chuck Taylor All-Stars|a page]] about them. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:46, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::Then it's good times for everybody! {{User:Punching Kittens/sig}} 23:33, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

== Music Styles ==

I dunno about anyone else, but for the Limozeen versions I got a huge Zeppelin vibe from the first and a Blue Oyster Cult vibe from the other. Just throwing it out there.

:Strange. I thought the Limozeen cover of We Don't Really Even Care sounded a lot like Guns N' Roses, and the sloshy cover of Because It's Midnite sounded a lot like a generic alternative rock band. I think sloshy is styled after weezer because the members look alike

I dont really get a Zeppelin vibe. Maybe JET, but Zeppelin's a little softer.

==Rrolling the arrrs==

I noticed that the Limozeen song seems to roll the Rs even when there aren't any. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 22:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

:I really doubt that's a 'distortion', I think he's just trilling.
.. 
Wait, there's a second H*R CD???

== Scrolling Background ==

Don't you think the seam in the space background counts as a real-world reference? I mean, if you look at the repeating backgrounds used in old Hanna-Barbera cartoons (e.g. Scooby-Doo), you'll notice that you can see the seams in those as well...and "But They're In Space!" ''is'' a parody of those kinds of old cartoons.--[[User:Tenka Muteki|Tenka Muteki]] 23:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

:TBC have more explicitly parodied this in the past, at the end [[little animal]]. I do think it's intentional, but I'm not sure if how to word it as a fun fact. Also, I should note that they used this same background (with the same seam) in [[best thing]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:04, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

== Pavement ==

Sloshy playing Limozeen's "Because, It's Midnite" sounds unmistakably like Pavement.

It's a pretty darn accurate send-up.

:Is pavement a band or a song? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
::I don't know anything about Pavement, but I assume it's a band from the info on sloshy's talk page.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 03:23, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
:::[[Wikipedia:Pavement (band)|Pavement]]'s an indie rock band. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:24, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
:::: Ok, I'm picking through my Pavement collection for examples. If I dropped that Sloshy cover in amongst them all nobody would notice. An example of the call & answer thing with the deadpan guy with the slight telephony mid-range can be found on the song Stereo from the Brighten the Corners album. --[[User:MigsAndMegs|MigsAndMegs]] 02:24, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Pavement's rather notorious for being unfathomable musically, not even really singing as much as talking along with the beat (not rap... you know what I mean.  I hope ^_^;) [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 10:26, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I thought they sounded like the Stones. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 16:53, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

==Limozeen In Space==

Could the fact that Limozeen is chasing Sloshy in space refer to them having been "knocked off the charts in the forbidden zone by an alternative rock band"? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 16:53, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
first thing tell me where is the girl of the band? then it will work.
==Bad real world reference==
 Real-World References
 The page title is a variation of the catch phrase 'The devil made me do it!' popularized by comedian Flip Wilson. 
:Or, maybe the label made them do it, rather than saying it's some quote that's been changed in order to emulate it.

== A split seven inch, eh? ==

Shouldn't there be a reference to the Marzipan's Answering Machine where the cheat and kot did a split single together? [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 22:02, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

== Cover Art ==

I was rearranging my parents' CD collection, and I found [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jump_Back:_The_Best_of_The_Rolling_Stones this CD]. The cover art is very similar to what's seen in this toon. But I'm not sure if it's a coincidence or not. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 05:04, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
:Doesn't look like a coincidence to me. {{User:Punching Kittens/sig}} 17:57, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

==Short or not short, that is the question==

I'm puzzled by the controversy on whether or not this is a short, which is consequently causing the Trivia bit about this being the longest "short" on the site.   I thought that the purpose of this Wiki was to abide by the categories set by TBC and provide extra, related information to the best of our collective ability.  Limozeen vs. sloshy is classified by TBC as a "short" and when you combine the 4 songs, it is clearly the longest one there is.  To me, it is pretty clear then that the fact about the run time is a relevant piece of information, worthy of being included in our wiki. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 05:34, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
:Nobody ever said it wasn't a short. I'm saying it's not a ''toon'' (in the general accepted sense of the word), and thus does not qualify for longest short toon, regardless of its running length. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:45, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

::I still believe that this is a toon, regardless. Maybe this should be stuffed. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 04:41, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't think this is the sort of question that should be thrown to a vote... the definition of the terms we use (like "toon") should be held to consensus, not just a majority... personally I'm not sure whether things like this and [[MAM]] should be considered toons for the purposes of fun facts like this... I'm leaning to no, though, 'cause there's not really any animation, just audio. However, that doesn't detract from the fact that this ''is'' the longest feature in the "Shorts" list by quite a large margin, and if that can be worded as a fun fact to avoid the word "toon" then I'm all for it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 17:50, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Maybe saying the longest short in number of frames. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 02:12, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

== we need a page about music singles now ==

now that there are at least two music singles in the H*R universe, ([[The New KOT]] vs [[DJ Teh Cheat]] and this one) I think we should have a page on [[Singles]] maybe --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 16:02, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
:Ooh, I am intrigued. That would be good for guitar tabs, instead of putting them on the toon's page. However, there is two, not the necessary three for a running gag. Whether or not it's a running gag or something else is a question I don't have the answer to. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
::How about adding to the [[items]] page a category of music releases? Probably after "Music players".  We already have a category for magazines. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 03:27, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

== Hmm... ==

The first notes of "Because It's Midnite" remind me of a part of the Giygas boss battle song from Earthbound. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf6QPlo1OSY, OK? OK. {{User:Neox/sig}}

== Best Thing contiues ==

This the band that got limozeen's nuber 1 spcae and limozeen found them and blow up their van. Am I right? Note: the driver could be a girl and we do not know who's the lead singer.
:They're not the same band, they're both just parodies of alternative rock bands. In [[best thing]], it is specifically stated that the bassist is a girl, and in [[concert]], it is revealed that sloshy's bassist wears glasses, which do not contradict each other. But in [[Limozeen vs. Sloshy]], the glasses-wearing bassist is clearly a guy. You're not the first person to notice the similarities between the two, though. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 22:51, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:it was sloshy befoue strong Bad saw them ha top that.
::You're not even... literate. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:21, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

== How to view the Easter egg... ==

I'm pretty sure that you can only watch the Easter egg once you've listened to both covers of the songs at least. When I click the lightning bolt only after hearing the one song play, it plays another. So the conditions for watching it is probably not just when no music is playing, right?
--[[User:YAOMTC|YAOMTC]] 19:12, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

:After a song has been playing for a second or two, you can click the word "stop" to stop the music.  Or you can wait for the song to end on its own.  Once the music is stopped, you can click the lightning bolt for the Easter egg.  No other requirements.  You don't have to listen to more than one song in order to view the Easter egg.  At least, I don't.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:02, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

::Huh... odd. I tried this a couple times earlier today, and it did what I said it did, but now... it seems to work as it should. Very strange. --[[User:YAOMTC|YAOMTC]] 23:55, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== I'm wearin' console-exclusive pants! ==

Should we add Guitar Hero: Rocks the 80's as a source of public availability for Because it's Midnite?  I wouldn't swear that the disc came out before this toon, but it should probably be noted somehow on this page.  Or not?  --[[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 06:48, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:I wouldn't, solely because Guitar Hero is not made by TBC. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:49, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

==Move==

The album cover cleary says "limozeen vs SLOSHY", should we retitle the page as such? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 18:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== Glitch The Cheat?! ==

For some strange reason whenever I play [[Kick The Cheat]] while listening, it effects the music. Whenever I miss The Cheat everything is the same as it was.  Whenever I hit The Cheat, the music stops and says it is still playing! 2008 [[User:PartyBrd20X6]]

== Because, It's Midnite ==

Not helping this page at all, but is there a place anywhere (not particularly on the site, cuz u can't on the site) where you can download because, it's midnite without having to sign up? If there's one where you have to sign up but the song is free, tell me, and if all else fails, tell me where i can play for it. I love that song, TBC actually make a good band.
:You can get sloshy's cover for free from this very toon. If you want Limozeen's original version, you can buy the CD from the [[Store]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:16, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

== iPod? ==

I know the RSS feeds are put into iTunes, then it's says it's eligible to go on an iPod. Where's the RSS feed? [[User:meaty85203|meaty85203]] (User Coming Soon) but for now... [[Special:Contributions/68.109.165.199|68.109.165.199]] 22:17, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
:http://podstar.homestarrunner.com/podcast.xml
::Sorry, but I already have the podcast on my iPod, the songs: We Don't Really Even Care About You by Limozeen and Because, It's Midnite by sloshy I want, I just this radio thing, and I can't get it on because the radio thingy [[User:meaty85203|Same Person]] [[Special:Contributions/68.109.165.199|68.109.165.199]] 15:44, 25 January 2009 (UTC)