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== Forum Registration ==
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''It has been [[HRWiki talk:Main page redesign|suggested]] that the Main Page be redesigned. Feel free to use [[HRWiki:Main page redesign|its project page]] for proposed redesigns.''
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Hey, for a while now I've wanted to be able to join the HRWiki forum, but I've looked high and low and I've not been able to find a way to do that. Is this another thing you have to send via email, or what? {{User:SRMX12/sig}} 15:03, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
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== sbemail templates ==
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:Yup! - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 18:35, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
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:''See [[Talk:Strong Bad Email#sbemail templates|Talk:Strong Bad Email → sbemail templates]]''
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== Downloads! ==
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== Trogday decor ==
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Whenever I go to a page's history and click on "Compare selected revisions", it says I have to download it. Is there some way for me to compare two versions of a page easily without having to download anything? {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 22:55, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
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Does the '''Featured content of the day (or whenever)''' template automatically switch to different links on certain days? Such as linking to [[dragon]], [[Trogday '08]] and other things when the time comes? Or is that done manually? Because tomorrow is Trogday. - [[User:HoveringSombrero|HoveringSombrero]] ([[User talk:HoveringSombrero|talk]]) [[File:Shoulder shoomps.png|23px]]
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:I don't experience that. Please list the exact steps you are taking, as well as your browser and OS. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:01, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
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:It's not automatic, but as you can see (at the time of this writing), the decorations were indeed put up to coincide with Trogday. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:43, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
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::I'm using Google Chrome. What I do is I go to a page, click history, and click the "Compare selected revisions" button, and then a pop-up appears that says to name the file that I'm downloading. Then I just click that "X" in the corner to close the box. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:05, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
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== How many references do you need? ==
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:::I'm also using Google Chrome and I cannot replicate this. My first recommendation is to check your browser and/or machine for malware, but that's unlikely. - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 01:37, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
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::I fixed it! I got a new computer, but the problem was still there. And it worked whenever I logged out, so I knew it was a problem with my account. I went through my preferences and found out that the "Use external diff by default (for experts only, needs special settings on your computer)" box was checked for the last few years. I unchecked the box, and now I can compare edits! [[virus|I shoulda done this like a million years ago!]] {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 04:47, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
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== Jam parsing glitch ==
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How many references to a thing need to be on a page for the thing the page is about to become a real page? Just curious because my mock-up seinfeld page includes eight references to the titular show. The page on [[The Big Lebowski]] has the same amount of references... so do I just make a [[Seinfeld]] page now? ----[[User:Jeffjman|J∃ffJ]][[User_talk:Jeffjman|Ma]][[Special:Contributions/Jeffjman|n]][[File:jeffjsigchrismas.png|23px]] 20:13, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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:done and done ----[[User:Jeffjman|J∃ffJ]][[User_talk:Jeffjman|Ma]][[Special:Contributions/Jeffjman|n]][[File:jeffjsigchrismas.png|23px]] 20:14, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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::See our [[HRWiki:Inclusion guidelines|inclusion guidelines]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:02, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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I wanted to check if there was a page about jam (of course there isn't &mdash; not even a redirect page with that name), but when I typed "jam" into the search bar, it brought me [[James#G as J|here]]. If I had typed "James", that would make sense, but I only typed "jam". What's more, if I type <nowiki>[[jam]]</nowiki>, the href points to the James article before I even click on it, [[jam|like so]]. Is there some kind of server-side string replacement going on here? --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 14:46, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
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== Songs archive ==
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:That is odd. What if you [http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Jam&action=edit&redlink=1 create the page]? {{User:The thing/sig}} 15:11, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
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::Norwegian deals, it worked! But this kinda thing could still happen with other pages. For example, while it would make sense for "Jame" to redirect to "James", there is no redirect page for it, so the same glitch happens. How do we know it isn't happening with other words? --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 15:43, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
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:::This is a side effect of [[HRW:AUTOPIPE|autopipe]]. It's testing whether we have a page of the plural, but it can't discern that "james" is not a valid plural for "jam", only that the page [[James]] exists. It tries both "s" and "es" suffixes (and if the word ends in "y", "ies"):
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:::*"word" → "words" → "wordes"
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:::*"monkey" → "monkeys" → "monkeyes" → "monkeies"
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:::*"army" → "armys" → "armyes" → "armies"
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:::In all of those groups, only one is the correct plural, but the function tries to match them all. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:44, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
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== Happy Cheatday? ==
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Would it be OK if I created a subpage to my user page with a complete archive of every existing song in the Homestar universe? [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 22:28, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
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:I'm pretty sure we [[Songs|have that covered]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:18, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
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::Well, I was gonna add MP3 files with them, so people could download them and stuff. Is that still OK? [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 00:26, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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:::No, that's not what the user space is for. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:43, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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Today is my 26th Birthday. I think we aught to do something to acknowledge users' birthdays. Like "It's Dot Com!'s" birthday. He's my favorite user.... {{User:ToaJuaraevo01/sig1}} 17:39, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
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== dot dot dot ==
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:Well it's also ''my'' birthday. But, I really don't see the reason for this or where it would be placed. - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 17:52, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
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== Brainkrieg, not Brainkreig ==
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Why come whenever I try to link to [[lady…ing]] and [[Cheat Commandos…O's]], the link is broken? Is it because of those ellipses? {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}}
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The listing for the Brainkrieg shirt is not correct. It is '''BRAINKRIEG''', not Brainkreig. Could someone correct it, please?—[[User:Bde1982|Bde1982]] 14:06, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
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:Sort of! "…" is different from "...", it's a single character rather than three periods. Try highlighting it and you can see. This is kind of like the difference between “curly quotes” and "straight quotes" - in both cases, the former is typically made via autocorrect in word processors or mobile keyboards, while the latter is preferred by the wiki. So while [[lady…ing]] and [[lady...ing]] may ''look'' the same, they are actually two different typed entries. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 22:17, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
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:Done. Thanks for letting us know~  --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 14:13, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
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::I've added redirects to fix the issue. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}} 23:06, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
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::You're welcome. Have a nice day.—[[User:Bde1982|Bde1982]] 14:28, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
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:::Thanks! {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}}
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== Halloween main page ==
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== Navigation sidebar - adding @StrongBadActual? ==
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Since Halloween is coming, can we change the wiki into the ween theme? --[[Special:Contributions/195.194.74.65|195.194.74.65]] 14:52, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
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[[Strong Bad Email]] has been in the sidebar for as long as I can remember, presumably because it was the most popular and most actively updated portion of the website. With the Twitter account handily outpacing both sbemails and "H*R.com updates" (not to mention the [[CGI Paper]] directing viewers to tweet rather than email), might it be worth adding it over there? I know I regularly find myself navigating to the [[@StrongBadActual]] page(s) to fill out "Fast Forward" sections of pages or to find dates when an item or project was mentioned. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 20:16, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
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:Is it even time? We usually don't changes the styles for two or three more weeks. Putting up the decorations now would be the earliest we've done it by far, but I'll do it if that's the consensus. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:22, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
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:I agree (and I'm not going to do the whole "Don't you think I agree" part, this isn't [[E-mail Birds]], but it is bird season.), and I fully support putting it there. It's a handy page and we've put a lot of work into cataloging every post made by strong bad on twitter, with fun facts to boot! So consider this my '''SUPPORT'''. ----[[User:Jeffjman|J∃ffJ]][[User_talk:Jeffjman|Ma]][[Special:Contributions/Jeffjman|n]][[File:jeffjsigchrismas.png|23px]] 22:52, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
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::I also '''SUPPORT'''. {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}}
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:::, So I '''SUPPORT''' this too, but I like having easy access to the Strong Bad Email page, considering I usually watch the sbemails by clicking on the external links. So, maybe we keep both? [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 22:28, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
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::::Maybe we link to it as <code><nowiki>[[@StrongBadActual Tweets 2023|Twitter]]</nowiki></code> and put it above [[Strong Bad Email]] and underneath [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent changes]]? {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}}
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::::: GREAT IDEA! I like it! [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 18:00, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
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== Google+ ==
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== Editing user pages ==
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So... homestarrunnerdotcom has an official [https://plus.google.com/u/0/103696391348629638078 Google+] page. It's linked to from their [[YouTube]] account. Just pointing this out. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 02:51, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
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Alright, so, I've been thinking. The block log has a lot of "user banned for editing userpages of other users". So, the main page, for example, has a system so only sysops can edit it. What if we add a system to all user pages that basically makes it impossible for anybody but the user to edit it? [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 22:52, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
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:During the time that the YouTube page was created, you had to link your YouTube account to a Google+ profile or it made a Google+ profile for you out of your YouTube account. Nothing unusual or strange, just the YouTube page but the Google+ auto-created page. - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 03:28, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
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:The thing is, I feel sysops / admins / wiki bots should probably still be able to edit user pages. For example, an admin fixing a bug on the page or a bot auto-replacing a link. But I agree that no one else should edit other user pages. Or somehow make a system where users can choose who can edit the page. {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}} 18:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
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::We already have [[HRWiki:User space#Ownership and editing of pages in the user space|explicit guidelines]] on who can and should edit user pages.  If a user page is edited for anything other than a legitimate reason, the edit typically gets quickly reverted. No harm done.  Anyone that might be banned in relation to user page edits is most likely doing it in a disruptive manner. In any case, the block logs mostly include bans for spamming.  There really is no compelling reason to add user page security settings or tools for this. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
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== New content! sorta. ==
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== Wiki availability ==
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[[youtube:j1pBcMvWRr4|This.]] {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 23:22, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
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For about the past week, I haven't been able to access the HRWiki, and downforeveryoneorjustme.com consistently confirmed (and still does) that hrwiki.org is down. However, I see that plenty of edits have been made to the wiki in that time, so obviously it wasn't entirely down. Basically, I've been presented with a white screen that occasionally loaded the hills in the background and sometimes the Homestar logo in the top-left corner, and if I moved the mouse around the screen, it would recognize where links and drop-down menus were, but it wouldn't show me any text for the links and all. Any idea what may have happened/be happening? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 20:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
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== The old fanstuff wiki ==
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:Hey Knights.  Usually, when a big update is released, wiki activity jumps exponentially and typically the wiki reaction times can slow down to a crawl.  Pages still load but they take forever and one must be patient.  Eventually that goes away as edits taper down.  However, for a site like "downforeveryoneorjustme", their timeout is likely far shorter than regular browsers when reporting if a site is down.  In your particular case it seems that not all website elements are loading and some may be timing out and not loading at all.  I'd typically expect that behavior during peak edit times.  Hope this helps a tiny bit! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:05, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
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::At some point I did see pages seemingly load but remain blank unless I interacted with the tab in some way, though that could have been a browser issue, it never really prevented me from accessing the wiki, and I haven't been experiencing it for a while. I've also had some "unable to connect" errors because sometimes when loading the wiki, it attempts to load an https URL. Most of the time, though, especially after a new release, it's been just slowdowns. {{User:DEIDATVM/sig}} 21:09, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
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Can I ask why the old Fanstuff Wiki has been closed? I know there's a second one but I'm just curious --[[Special:Contributions/90.203.233.77|90.203.233.77]] 20:45, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
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=== Still Slow ===
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:The overall quality became increasingly poor to the point that we didn't want to host it anymore. While there were a few good things about it, it was largely a playground devoid of much substance. We tried to cut out most of the tired memes and drivel and start anew, but eventually even that became more trouble than it was worth. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:55, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
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It seems that the wiki hasn't fully recovered from its slowdowns back in August.  In the last couple of months I've come across the Job Queue and [[MW:Manual:Job queue|this mediawiki page]] detailing what it is and how it's supposed to function.  I get the impression that currently, all jobs on the wiki are running when a page is being requested. The page outlines a means by which the jobs can be run in the background (either via cron job or background process; I'd recommend the background process) and then the job run rate could be set to zero (so that pages aren't spending time running jobs while loading). Is this something that is already in place or could this perhaps be implemented in order to improve overall performance even during busy periods? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 11:41, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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::Dude, are you kidding me?! The fanstuff was pretty cool and so was the art and little mini-games. --[[Special:Contributions/90.203.155.145|90.203.155.145]] 16:26, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
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:::If you say so. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:14, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
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== Main Page Glitch? ==
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==glitch on the main pages ==
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How come the pages are all back to normal colors and style, but the icon in the top-left corner is still Halloween themed? Is this happening to anyone else, or is it just me?
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Noticed a glitch on the main pages, done by holding the cursor on one of the buttons, and then moving away, and then moving your finger off the mouse. to see what this does and what I mean, refer to this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgM-NA0Rja4 [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 21:08, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
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{{User:Mml554/sig}}
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:There's a whole page about this. [[Main Page Glitches]] {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}} 21:21, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
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:Yeah, that's the case for me too. I seem to remember there was a brief time when the icon was normal type. Is it a mistake, or is it because of [[Fan Costumes 2016]] besing released? {{User:SRMX12/sig}} 22:03, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
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::I was waiting to change back from Halloween until after the fan costumes toon was released. I eventually gave up waiting, but then two days later they finally released the toon. Rather than change the whole theme back, I just put the Halloween logo back up for a few more days. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:48, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
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:::I also saw that the content of the day is showing both the fan costumes ''and'' the Thanksgiving toons. Should this be changed/fixed? {{User:Mml554/sig}}
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::::It's intentional. Fan costumes have been up less than a week but today is Thanksgiving. I decided not to have to choose between them. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:30, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
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:::::Clicking the snowflakes bring you to a random page; this makes me happy {{User:Mml554/sig}}
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== Deleted envelope since late 2015 ==
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== Why does the website still have the Halloween theme? ==
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Halloween ended 18 days ago, and so did October in general, so why does the website still have the Hallow's Eve theme? --{{User:Cy4nIsN0tB1u3/sig}} 04:33, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
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:Because we're still waiting for the annual Fan Costumes toon to close out the season, even if we have to wait [[Decomposing Pumpkins|days after Thanksgiving]]. Also, because the sysops in charge of changing the wiki settings are busy people with lives and tend to wait a while to get around to it. -- [[Special:Contributions/68.37.43.131|68.37.43.131]] 23:56, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
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Hi there! We detected that one letter saying "The Brothers Chaps" was removed, and we really want to know why they did this. We went to HomestarRunner.com and detected it. Can anyone please tell us why? --[[Special:Contributions/77.218.255.196|77.218.255.196]] 22:26, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
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==New Fan Stumes’!==
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:Because TBC decided to change it. That's really all anyone here knows, and really all that matters. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:39, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
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== New Year logo ==
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The 2023 Fan Stumes has been released! And not only that, but my costume from last year is the very first Strong Bad costume! That counts as a fun fact, right? We should probably note that like how we note when a wikian sent a email. [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 17:12, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
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How did you get Homestar Runner to say 'Happy New Year'? Did you like, take some lines out of toons or did you get some Homestar Runner impressionists to say it? --[[Special:Contributions/90.197.11.150|90.197.11.150]] 22:09, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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== Permafrosted logo? ==
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:[[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 42#HAPPY newyear]]. {{unsigned|RickTommy|22:29, 1 January 2017 (UTC)}}
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== April Fools logo ==
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The Decemberween themed logo is still up, but December ended 11 days ago. The weirdest part in my opinion is that there's no d'ween themed colors despide icicles and Homestar's hat. Is there something we're waiting for, like a new not-Decemberween toon?
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The guy who confused Dobbs for Daubs. {{unsigned|206.110.189.60|11 January 2024 16:34 (UTC)}}
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[http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Special:Logos] You forgot that April Fools logo when Homestar says 'Umm what's going on here?'--[[Special:Contributions/195.194.74.65|195.194.74.65]] 15:40, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
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:I'm not an admin, but I'm assuming the style is simply for the winter season. Even though the Christmas lights have been taken down, it's still a chilly and snowy time of year for {{w|March equinox|at least another month and a half}}. (P.S. Even if you don't have an account, please sign your posts with four tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 17:34, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
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== Giving away a The Cheat hoody! ==
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(Or rather, selling for the cost of shipping) Hello! I am trying to find a home for my The Cheat hoody which I got about 10 years ago but have scarcely worn. It's in good shape. A thrift store would be happy to have it, but I'd really like to get it in the hands of someone who is part of the fan community and would appreciate something like this. HR and hrwiki gave me some great times back in the day! Sorry if this isn't the optimum place to post this. If interested, see: [http://knoxville.craigslist.org/clo/5948497586.html link] {{unsigned|12.150.126.251|22:03, 6 January 2017 (UTC)}}
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== A History of Homestar...y ==
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[http://io9.gizmodo.com/an-oral-history-of-homestar-runner-the-internets-favor-1791519879 There's been another interview with TBC.] {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:08, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
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:This should probably get a page, right? {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 00:17, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
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::Go for it. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
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== Updated Main Page ==
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Sorry 'bout all dese talk page posts, but... [[@StrongBadActual]] ''isn't linked to anywhere on the Main Page''. And neither is [[YouTube]], which has replaced [[FeedBurner]] on the NavBar. There's also a bunch of empty space beneath the "Miscellany" secion. There's at least 4 things we can do with that empty space:
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#Put Strong Bad's latest tweets there, [http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&direction=prev&oldid=752027 a-like so].
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#Put featured article "reruns" there. [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=719053 Like this type.]
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So... hey, sysops? Ya think we should do these things?
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{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 00:26, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
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:Hello? {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 02:48, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
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::We should probably fill that big gap on the left. I don't hate the Twitter idea, although really the whole main page needs a complete overhaul. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:29, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
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:::Yeah. We should also change it back to what it is before Halloween came. So, recap: Tweets will be in the main page, So does the featured article, and leave it how it is. So, CAN WE DO IT PLZ? :) --[[Special:Contributions/76.177.17.164|76.177.17.164]] 18:40, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
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::::We don't change back for at least a week after Halloween. There may still be a costume commentary toon to come. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:16, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
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:::::So, what does everyone else think about the new main page ideas? {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 04:57, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
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::::::I think rather highly of them. I mean, a) we have this huge blank space on the main page that's begging to be filled, and b) Strong Bad's Twitter makes up a large part of H*R activity nowadays, and putting them on the main page would complement the What's New? section nicely. '''If nothing else,''' we at ''least'' need to link to @StrongBadActual from the main page. Seriously. {{User:SRMX12/sig}} 17:00, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
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:::::::Somebody fill {{t|recenttweets}} with data. Check your work in the [[sandbox]] ({{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=764871 current version}}). Barring opposition, once it looks presentable, we'll implement it. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:33, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
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::::::::Alright. {{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:recenttweets&oldid=764875 What do you think?}} {{User:SRMX12/sig}} 23:28, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
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I'd say {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=764892 it's shaping up}}. We'll give people a little time to comment but if there are no nays in the next day or two then I'll load the changes. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:29, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
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:Man, it's been forever since the Main Page was changed. This'll be exciting! {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 02:44, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
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::Also, is the Featured Content section really necessary? It hardly even gets updated. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 05:59, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
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:::Oppose. It's bad enough that 90% of the Internet has done the same thing in some way, shape or form. Also, what if SBA suffers the same fate as Ronginald? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:24, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
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::::Is there a specific reason why you dislike this? "It's bad enough that 90% of the Internet has done the same thing in some way, shape or form" is not a reason, it's just begging the question. As for "what if they shut it down", I would say two things. Firstly, it seems as though @ronginald was an experiment with twitter and they're now going full-force with @StrongBadActual. As such it seems unlikely that they'll shut it down any time soon. Secondly, if they DO shut it down, we can figure out what to replace it with at that time. For the moment, it exists, fills the space nicely, and makes sense to be there. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:47, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
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:So, with regards to [http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=764954 these] [http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&diff=764972&oldid=764954&rcid=727815 edits], there is clear disagreement regarding the format of the main page nav bar. The question is basically this: should the Nav Bar look exactly like [[Site Components#NavBar|H*R's nav bar]] or should we follow the traditional wording we've had?  I slightly lean towards making it look like the H*R Nav bar since it's new and it makes it looks kinda slick.  In any case, I'm here bringing up this topic in order to hear the merits or each side and gague community consensus. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:36, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
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:: I'm sure it was ever intended to match the nav bar at the ''bottom'' of the official site (more like the navigation along the left side of the main pages, plus legal for some reason), nor do I really think it should, due to the redundancy of links. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:33, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
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::: I think it looks cleaner without the "Main Menu" text, and it seems more appropriate to have that particular area of the page match the hrwiki navbar. The links on the left lower down can be for the other stuff we want to provide easy navigation to. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:40, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
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'''Alternate <strike>universes</strike> layouts:'''<br />
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Since Defender and I are playing with alternative layouts, I figured it'd be best to list them here:
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:{{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=765205 Here's my idea.}} Surprisingly, there's no link to [[homestarrunner.com|this article]] on the main page, so I added one in the introduction. I added Big Toons and Shorts to the "Features" section, so it can include all of the toon categories. I removed the {{t|u}} icons because they made the page look complicated and cluttered. And I also removed the featured content, because it hardly ever gets updated. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 00:03, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] sbemail templates

See Talk:Strong Bad Email → sbemail templates

[edit] Trogday decor

Does the Featured content of the day (or whenever) template automatically switch to different links on certain days? Such as linking to dragon, Trogday '08 and other things when the time comes? Or is that done manually? Because tomorrow is Trogday. - HoveringSombrero (talk)

It's not automatic, but as you can see (at the time of this writing), the decorations were indeed put up to coincide with Trogday. — It's dot com 01:43, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

[edit] How many references do you need?

How many references to a thing need to be on a page for the thing the page is about to become a real page? Just curious because my mock-up seinfeld page includes eight references to the titular show. The page on The Big Lebowski has the same amount of references... so do I just make a Seinfeld page now? ----J∃ffJMan 20:13, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

done and done ----J∃ffJMan 20:14, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
See our inclusion guidelines. — It's dot com 21:02, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Songs archive

Would it be OK if I created a subpage to my user page with a complete archive of every existing song in the Homestar universe? I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 22:28, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure we have that covered. — It's dot com 23:18, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Well, I was gonna add MP3 files with them, so people could download them and stuff. Is that still OK? I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 00:26, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
No, that's not what the user space is for. — It's dot com 00:43, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

[edit] dot dot dot

Why come whenever I try to link to lady…ing and Cheat Commandos…O's, the link is broken? Is it because of those ellipses? — HoveringSombrero (talk)

Sort of! "…" is different from "...", it's a single character rather than three periods. Try highlighting it and you can see. This is kind of like the difference between “curly quotes” and "straight quotes" - in both cases, the former is typically made via autocorrect in word processors or mobile keyboards, while the latter is preferred by the wiki. So while lady…ing and lady...ing may look the same, they are actually two different typed entries. -- Bleu Ninja 22:17, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
I've added redirects to fix the issue. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:06, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks! — HoveringSombrero (talk)

[edit] Navigation sidebar - adding @StrongBadActual?

Strong Bad Email has been in the sidebar for as long as I can remember, presumably because it was the most popular and most actively updated portion of the website. With the Twitter account handily outpacing both sbemails and "H*R.com updates" (not to mention the CGI Paper directing viewers to tweet rather than email), might it be worth adding it over there? I know I regularly find myself navigating to the @StrongBadActual page(s) to fill out "Fast Forward" sections of pages or to find dates when an item or project was mentioned. -- Bleu Ninja 20:16, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

I agree (and I'm not going to do the whole "Don't you think I agree" part, this isn't E-mail Birds, but it is bird season.), and I fully support putting it there. It's a handy page and we've put a lot of work into cataloging every post made by strong bad on twitter, with fun facts to boot! So consider this my SUPPORT. ----J∃ffJMan 22:52, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
I also SUPPORT. — HoveringSombrero (talk)
, So I SUPPORT this too, but I like having easy access to the Strong Bad Email page, considering I usually watch the sbemails by clicking on the external links. So, maybe we keep both? I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 22:28, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Maybe we link to it as [[@StrongBadActual Tweets 2023|Twitter]] and put it above Strong Bad Email and underneath Recent changes? — HoveringSombrero (talk)
GREAT IDEA! I like it! I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 18:00, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Editing user pages

Alright, so, I've been thinking. The block log has a lot of "user banned for editing userpages of other users". So, the main page, for example, has a system so only sysops can edit it. What if we add a system to all user pages that basically makes it impossible for anybody but the user to edit it? I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 22:52, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

The thing is, I feel sysops / admins / wiki bots should probably still be able to edit user pages. For example, an admin fixing a bug on the page or a bot auto-replacing a link. But I agree that no one else should edit other user pages. Or somehow make a system where users can choose who can edit the page. — HoveringSombrero (talk) 18:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
We already have explicit guidelines on who can and should edit user pages. If a user page is edited for anything other than a legitimate reason, the edit typically gets quickly reverted. No harm done. Anyone that might be banned in relation to user page edits is most likely doing it in a disruptive manner. In any case, the block logs mostly include bans for spamming. There really is no compelling reason to add user page security settings or tools for this. --Stux 21:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki availability

For about the past week, I haven't been able to access the HRWiki, and downforeveryoneorjustme.com consistently confirmed (and still does) that hrwiki.org is down. However, I see that plenty of edits have been made to the wiki in that time, so obviously it wasn't entirely down. Basically, I've been presented with a white screen that occasionally loaded the hills in the background and sometimes the Homestar logo in the top-left corner, and if I moved the mouse around the screen, it would recognize where links and drop-down menus were, but it wouldn't show me any text for the links and all. Any idea what may have happened/be happening? The Knights Who Say Ni 20:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Hey Knights. Usually, when a big update is released, wiki activity jumps exponentially and typically the wiki reaction times can slow down to a crawl. Pages still load but they take forever and one must be patient. Eventually that goes away as edits taper down. However, for a site like "downforeveryoneorjustme", their timeout is likely far shorter than regular browsers when reporting if a site is down. In your particular case it seems that not all website elements are loading and some may be timing out and not loading at all. I'd typically expect that behavior during peak edit times. Hope this helps a tiny bit! --Stux 06:05, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
At some point I did see pages seemingly load but remain blank unless I interacted with the tab in some way, though that could have been a browser issue, it never really prevented me from accessing the wiki, and I haven't been experiencing it for a while. I've also had some "unable to connect" errors because sometimes when loading the wiki, it attempts to load an https URL. Most of the time, though, especially after a new release, it's been just slowdowns. DEI DAT VMdatvm center\super contra 21:09, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Still Slow

It seems that the wiki hasn't fully recovered from its slowdowns back in August. In the last couple of months I've come across the Job Queue and this mediawiki page detailing what it is and how it's supposed to function. I get the impression that currently, all jobs on the wiki are running when a page is being requested. The page outlines a means by which the jobs can be run in the background (either via cron job or background process; I'd recommend the background process) and then the job run rate could be set to zero (so that pages aren't spending time running jobs while loading). Is this something that is already in place or could this perhaps be implemented in order to improve overall performance even during busy periods? --Stux 11:41, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

[edit] glitch on the main pages

Noticed a glitch on the main pages, done by holding the cursor on one of the buttons, and then moving away, and then moving your finger off the mouse. to see what this does and what I mean, refer to this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgM-NA0Rja4 I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 21:08, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

There's a whole page about this. Main Page Glitches Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 21:21, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Why does the website still have the Halloween theme?

Halloween ended 18 days ago, and so did October in general, so why does the website still have the Hallow's Eve theme? --Cy4nIsN0tB1u3 04:33, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Because we're still waiting for the annual Fan Costumes toon to close out the season, even if we have to wait days after Thanksgiving. Also, because the sysops in charge of changing the wiki settings are busy people with lives and tend to wait a while to get around to it. -- 68.37.43.131 23:56, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

[edit] New Fan Stumes’!

The 2023 Fan Stumes has been released! And not only that, but my costume from last year is the very first Strong Bad costume! That counts as a fun fact, right? We should probably note that like how we note when a wikian sent a email. I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 17:12, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Permafrosted logo?

The Decemberween themed logo is still up, but December ended 11 days ago. The weirdest part in my opinion is that there's no d'ween themed colors despide icicles and Homestar's hat. Is there something we're waiting for, like a new not-Decemberween toon? Yours truly, The guy who confused Dobbs for Daubs. — 206.110.189.60 (Talk | contribs) 11 January 2024 16:34 (UTC) (left unsigned)

I'm not an admin, but I'm assuming the style is simply for the winter season. Even though the Christmas lights have been taken down, it's still a chilly and snowy time of year for at least another month and a half. (P.S. Even if you don't have an account, please sign your posts with four tildes: ~~~~) -- Bleu Ninja 17:34, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
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