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::::It would be sad and counterproductive to block all annonies from editing. Most of them do good work, and I'm sure most users here started as annonies. We should keep the open and inviting nature of this wiki and not panic because every once in a blue moon some idiot is bored. That would be over-reacting and destroying a part of our wiki's culture.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:50, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::::It would be sad and counterproductive to block all annonies from editing. Most of them do good work, and I'm sure most users here started as annonies. We should keep the open and inviting nature of this wiki and not panic because every once in a blue moon some idiot is bored. That would be over-reacting and destroying a part of our wiki's culture.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:50, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Wow, I can't believe you actually did it. How long will this last? (No new users and no annony editing) I hope we can remove this lock soon...there were many ''many'' helpful annonies, and only one(?) very bad one. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 12:05, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Wow, I can't believe you actually did it. How long will this last? (No new users and no annony editing) I hope we can remove this lock soon...there were many ''many'' helpful annonies, and only one(?) very bad one. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 12:05, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
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::::::Yeah, anonies can be helpful! Can they at least register, or is our member count forever frozen? [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 12:09, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

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Archive

What do you have to say about running an archive of our deleted pages? Some sound interesting and I want to see them. I won't become a sysop anytime soon, so... --FangoriouslyFotoshopStar.png 16:44, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

All of the pages that were previously deleted obviously don't need to be kept, hence wwhy they were deleted by the overlords and gods of the wiki. It would be too much trouble to bring them all back anyway, and a troll might grab the code and restore the page. MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 17:33, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

50 best sbemails

someone mark this post as patrolled; visit the store if you have to. The post might need a clean up, but it's true. OpenSourceGreg 11:12, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

  • This is true. Someone patrol it; everyone needs to know this!

Can somebody who own the dvd please complete the article ASAP? Omnisweater 17:24, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

The sooner you buy it, the sooner you can take care of that. — It's dot com 21:38, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Image:Egg.jpg

Is it a good idea to make this image transparent so it doesn't look awful on black surfaces? I looked at the thing's user page, and that white box on black is really annoying. I have made a PNG of this, but I don't think it looks that great either. ColdReactive

Signature Size

is my signature size fine? Because the coffee cup only extends a few pixels outside the box -_-

http://hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Iyeru/sig#testing ColdReactive

It's no worse than Phlip's, so I think it is fine. Homestar-Winner (talk) 00:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Looks fine to me, too, but I'm the new guy, so don't listen to me :-P LobStoR 00:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
edit: you also might be able to crop my screenshot a little bit further, to squeeze your sig down maybe another pixel or so. LobStoR 00:52, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
I made it 18 pixels this time, it should fit better now. ColdReactive
You can leave it 20 pix if you want. There's a slight inconsistency in how the box shows up, but 20pix is the guideline that the wiki's set, and is fine. -128.103.10.135 14:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Adopt-A-File?

I noticed there's a HEAVY LOURDE of files on the unusedfiles page. When do these files get deleted, and if they don't, shouldn't we start an Adopt-A-File campaign of some sorts? ColdReactive

No, that's not necessary. — It's dot com 21:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
So I'm guessing they never get deleted? ColdReactive
Not in most cases, no. — It's dot com 22:10, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Linking Internal Images to Internal Pages...

How do we do this? [[File:Example.jpg|link=http://wikipedia.org]] doesn't work according to MediaWiki forums because we do not have MediaWiki 1.14+. And I can't use imagemap tag on such a small image as my sig image (as it will just be a circle with an i in it) ColdReactive

Like this: <span class="plainlinks">[http://targetlink.com http://www.hrwiki.org/path/to/Example.jpg]</span>It's dot com 01:52, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
The picture I'm going to link to though is over 500 pixels -_- I doon't think that's small enough to fit in my signature. Plus, you're still linking externallyish using that. ColdReactive
Something like 18px-CupAJoe.png ? (Note: what I thought I was doing didn't actually work... but the end result did anyway... I'm not sure if the URL of the 18px version is permanent or a cache thing though, you might want/need to upload a version that is explicitly the size you want). —98.222.134.36 04:16, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
The 18px thumbnail thing is semi-permanent... it won't disappear on its own, but if you upload a new image over that one, then it'll disappear, and you'll have to look at a page with [[Image:CupAJoe.png|18px]] (either hard-refresh a page that already has it, or add it to a page and show preview, that sort of thing) to get it to re-generate the thumbnail. Best bet is to put that in a <noinclude> section in the sig template itself, just in case. --phlip TC 08:22, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I did that. Now to wait for someone to vandalize the picture and upload a huge or really, really small one-pixel version of the image. :D ColdReactive
It's like no one knows of the {{pl}} template anymore... MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 14:41, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
How do you even USE that template in conjunction with a file? Seems pointless to bring it up here when there's no input for a file. ColdReactive
Like this: {{pl|l=http://www.google.com http://hrwiki.org/images/thumb/e/ea/CupAJoe.png/18px-CupAJoe.png}} makes this :18px-CupAJoe.png. And please sign your talk posts with 4 tildes: ~~~~ MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 14:52, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Sure thing Mike, err, Micheal. ColdReactive 14:59, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
That's much better. And it's Michael. ;) MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 15:00, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Link to Job Queue

The link to the information on Job Queues in Special:Statistics is broken (sort of). It should instead link to Job queue on MediaWiki.org. Homestar-Winner (talk) 18:17, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

New article idea

I've an idea for a new article: fanscripts, people could post scripts that they invented about homestar runner's adventures, please can you consider my idea- posted 23 Thursday 2009 DJ Dumpy Dump

The wiki, as far as I know, doesn't put articles on fanstuff. There are other places you can post things, like the H*R fanstuff wiki (after the purge is over) and the fanstuff forum.--Mariofan1000 16:17, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

What happened to Fanstuff? I'm probably not going to get a real answer, but can someone point me in direction of finding one?

new videlectrix update,

im not sure if any of you saw this but theres a new update on the videlectrix site http://www.videlectrix.com/ -WHY ARE YAH MOUSIN MEH IMAGES?!?!?1/?!?GirrByTeWHY ARE YAH MOUSIN MEH IMAGES?!?!?1/?!?

So just post it. There's a template for recent changes that you edit to show the changes, you know. If not, well now you know!

Background Image

I'd like to resurrect a topic that I brought up almost a year ago. Here's a link to the tileable image that I suggest we use as our new background image. Plans were to make the change with update 1.13, which was skipped.. so, what's the plan now? OptimisticFool 13:07, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I still haven't forgotten about that. — It's dot com 15:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
OptimisticFool, would it be too hard to make a different image in the style of the current design of the field? Homestar-Winner (talk) 00:25, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Maybe, maybe not. The sky might present a challenge. Here's a quickly-thrown-together new-style field with an all-white sky, first the tile, and then the tiled result. I'm kind of partial to the older field, but I'm willing to fight with the sky behind the new field if it's the popular vote. OptimisticFool 13:31, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Preferences

I went into my preferences and saw in the "Old password" box a word that was twice the size of the box (with the black dots). Is this normal, or was my account hacked? Because I'm automatically logged in here and haven't entered my password since last week. And my password isn't that long. Yes, I'm aware that this question doesn't belong here, so where do I post this? Thy Not Dennis (t/c) 21:40, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

HRWiki talk:FAQ. It's not normal (the field for the old password isn't pre-filled when the page loads), but I don't think your account was hacked. Maybe a key was stuck on your keyboard and you selected the field. — It's dot com 22:27, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
You're probably right. It's fine now, and I just logged in on a different computer. Thy Not Dennis (t/c) 01:04, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Case (in)sensitive links - plugin?

I am under the impression that this wiki uses a plugin to achieve case insensitivity on the links (see HRWiki:Autopipe/Autoredirect)... I don't immediately see anything under Special:Version that sticks out to me as being it. I was wondering if anyone knows how that was accomplished on here? Thanks. LobStoR 16:03, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

It's not a plugin so much as a direct hack to the system core. With each new branch release of MediaWiki, I'm able to move more and more of it to hooks, but even in the latest release it still requires substantial edits to LinkHolderArray.php (formerly Parser.php) as well as minor edits to a couple of other files. (The edits are substantial enough that I'm still not comfortable releasing it into the wild, if you wonder.) — It's dot com 16:32, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Rating system

I have an idea. We could allow people to rate the page from 1 star to 5 stars. Let me know if anyone think this is a good idea.

I gotta' side with a "not really". As this is a wiki, people can edit the page if they don't think it's up to snuff. Rating a page would just act like a note that says, "I'm to lazy to edit this part, so I'm gonna' leave it up to someone with more time on their hands". Plus, it could be an easy place for trolls to strike, which could probably mean the ratings would be inadequate with what they should be. DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 03:26, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
As with Devon, this is a wiki. Pages change so quickly the quality will waver every edit. Plus this will only open up more trolling, what with all the "1 starring" and "bad voting" and such. Good idea. --Jellote 03:31, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
I also agree, trolling would be the number one reason for it not to be included (as well as to be included actually) so I could label you as a troll. ColdReactive 18:42, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Look, I was just trying to let people know what is a page that they should check out or not ColdReactive. Kevo411
ColdReactive, no, you could not. There's nothing trollish about this good-faith request. Still, I have to agree with Devon that this isn't really a good idea. If an article's bad, people should take the time to leave a note on the talk page (or better yet, fix it themselves), not just leave a quick rating. Heimstern Läufer 08:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

New Toon Now

Cheat Commandos Part 2 has now replaced the 'New Toon Soon' main page message. Since I'm not sure how to make it, I'd like it if someone could right an article. -Corruption

Already on it. Please help if you can. 2 Part Episode: Part 2.--Record307 Talk/Contribs 20:15, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

somethings wrong

I;m trying to watch the new cheat commandoes toon part one, but its not leading, but my internet is fast today?

Something wrong? Nikolce Kocovski 06:36, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

This is an acknowledged problem. It's not just you. --DorianGray 06:38, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Server adjustments

The fanstuff wiki will return 404'd when I try to view it. --FangoriouslyFotoshopStar.png 01:19, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

The wiki and its sister sites may be unavailable for various periods of time as we make server adjustments throughout the evening. Everything is fine; nothing is ruined. — It's dot com 01:36, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Sorry you had to edit the heading of my topic. I am Fangoriously, just not logged in. And I changed the heading back! --98.162.148.46 02:15, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Changed back. The topic is not specifically fanstuff-related, but rather has to do with the entire server, making the current heading more appropriate. Note that section headers are not in any way owned or controlled by the original poster. Heimstern Läufer 03:06, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Marking duplicate images

With the upgrade to MW1.15, I'm really liking the more robust search and file page layout (being able to see thumbnails is good!). However, I seem to remember not long after the Wiki was up and running again, I saw a note on a page saying it was a duplicate image. Has the way of marking duplicate images changed? For example, we have Scrawn job.jpg and Scrawnjob.png as duplicates of scrawnjob.png. (Note the files in question are in different resolutions and formats.) Does the system automagically note when two files are the same, or is there a way other than using the delete template? wbwolf (t | ed) 23:16, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

The system can tell when images are identical, down to the last pixel. It can't tell automatically otherwise. — It's dot com 23:24, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

SignBot Like on Wikipedia?

It's getting annoying to have to remember the unsigned template. Can't we create a bot that auto signs unsigned posts, like Wikipedia does? ColdReactive 04:12, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

That seems like a good idea in theory. But that bot has one of the most perverted userboxes on its userpage that I've ever seen... >_> MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 04:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Perverted, maybe, but it's true. Programming isn't frequently known to wear clothes while editing. Also, I totally agree. The problem is programming; SineBot itself isn't opensource. Someone would have to code it on out.
EDIT: I forgot to sign. XD --Onamuji (b/w T. C.  ) 04:45, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Perverted? This is the HRWiki, not a Southern elementary school. —Zelinda 20:50, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm in the process of persuading the coder to either give me the source, or run it over here. The Goblin!! 23:53, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Rando tool

I've created a quick and easy tool that redirects people to a random toon. It is at [1], and the documentation is here. The Goblin!! 23:52, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING in /rando.php on line 502. Seems like it has prablems. ColdReactive 03:25, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
I saw this earlier today and it was working fine. now i got that same message. The Knights Who Say Ni 03:36, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Fixed. The Goblin!! 03:47, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
warnings are afoot still. The last warning (about headers) is because you're using header() function even though the head HTML tag was already passed. ColdReactive 12:54, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
seems you fixed them. ColdReactive 14:58, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Don't auto-parse image url as image

Please don't, it's annoying. ColdReactive 12:55, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

That's built into the MediaWiki software. If you want to link to a File: or Category:, just append it with a colon. ([[:File:somepicture.png]]) For off-site images, it seems to be working fine. wbwolf (t | ed) 15:29, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Okay, will test nowiki with offsite images. ColdReactive 16:05, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikitable class not used?

I've noticed that most tables on this wiki don't use the built-in "wikitable" class. Why is this? Changing all of the tables to class="wikitable" saves a lot more time and space than border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse". I know it doesn't matter, but I also prefer the light shade of gray on the cell borders, which the wikitable class uses, than the darker shade of gray that we currently use. --76.224.216.122 19:52, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

What time?

What time are new toons usually added? TheThin 02:41, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Usually it's sometime between 12:00:00 AM and 11:59:59 PM, give or take a week or two. — Defender1031*Talk 02:43, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Harmless Junk, Inc

Anyone know what domains these are? TheThin 03:29, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

homestarrunner.com, videlectrix.com, thoraxcorp.com, and that website. whatthepafargle.com or something i forgot ---Girrbyte
Thorax Corp isn't owned by Harmless Junk... it's owned by TBC, but not under the company. I think there was a whatthepfargtl site at one point, but it was owned by a fan, not TBC. --phlip TC 09:23, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
[acording to the homestar runner.com page the domain for whatthepfargtl was owned by them for a short time] --Girrbyte
Actually, there is a harmlessjunk.com. free 00:58, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
The K is stumping me and that's saying something. I find it strange that ronplanet.com is not included in that list. —Zelinda 05:17, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Not conflict'd?

Is there something wrong with the edit conflict function? Strongkinghomsarsmith 02:05, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I was wondering the same thing. The Knights Who Say Ni 02:12, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
What exactly is that link supposed to be highlighting? What was the difference between the expected and observed behavior? — It's dot com 03:01, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Me and Knights removed the same thing, at the same time. Both show up in Recent Changes. Strongkinghomsarsmith 03:16, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
In addition to removing that line, you apparently added a period on a different line, which makes it count as a different edit. The software is designed to merge edits when there's a conflict if they don't interfere with each other. — It's dot com 15:09, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
I had something the other day: i was trying to revert something, but DeFender beat me to it, so my edit didn't show up at all. i think that's what you mean by merging edits. The Knights Who Say Ni 16:58, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Sort of. If you edit part of an article in exactly the same way as someone else before you, the system won't display a conflict. If you make no other changes, your edit will just be ignored, as in your last example. But if you change something elsewhere in the article, it will show up as two edits: first the part that you both changed (credited to the other person), and then whatever else you changed (which is what happened with the addition of the period in the very first example). The primary use of this feature is to allow one person to edit, say, the transcript of an article and another person to edit the remarks. The system (using diff3) can merge the two edits without displaying a conflict as long as they don't interfere with each other. — It's dot com 21:37, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Okay, it makes much more sense now. Thanks. Strongkinghomsarsmith 21:42, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Cookies saved separately

External links and subtitle links link to www.hrwiki.org when I'm browsing hrwiki.org, this means I'm not logged in when I click them; as cookies are saved separately for www.hrwiki.org and hrwiki.org ColdReactive 22:58, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

The workaround is to log in on both www.hrwiki.org and hrwiki.org. — It's dot com 23:12, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Feels like the admins are too lazy to fix it though with that response. Fine, whatever. ColdReactive 23:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
They're not lazy. For security reasons, any browser sees www.hrwiki.org and hrwiki.org as two different websites. MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 23:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
ColdReactive: Thanks for your comments. I will bear them in mind the next time you need assistance. — It's dot com 14:08, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Help with subtitles

When I tried to do the subtitles for that weird H - o - m - e video, the subtitles wouldn't display because the software automatically assumes that the page is on homestarrunner.com, but it's on videlectrix.com. Does anyone (preferably Phlip) know how to fix this? MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 20:05, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, looks like there were different problems with both the GM script and the local viewer with that subtitles script... both have been fixed. The GM script got confused by the nested templates in the header... which was fixed by creating a redirect so that the nested templates weren't necessary. If we ever do need nested templates on a subtitles script for some reason, adding <noinclude></noinclude> tags around it will also fix it. For the local viewer, it's been changed so that you can have an absolute URL in the file attribute (which has to be a full URL), as long as it's on homestarrunner.com, videlectrix.com or the mirror. All three should work, now. --phlip TC 04:16, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Broken link

watch (links to sbemail "independent") is broken. Please change it to watch. --Pdedecker 10:28, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

That "fixed" link is also 404'd for me. In fact, the entire H*R Website is not updated with that email for me. ColdReactive 12:48, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
It's broken because there's no ".html" at the end of it. The correct link is here. MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 21:10, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Yup. Just like the second link in the original post. This was fixed six and a half days ago, when this thread was current. — It's dot com 23:16, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Security change?

I know that H*R is suppose to be a Wiki that anyone can edit, but it seems like lately especially, we've had numerous incidents where anonies are coming in just to disrupt the wiki just because they think that they are funny. While I don't want to totally block anony edits, and it wouldn't completely eliminate the problem, but would it be worth it to at least block anony page creation? From what I've observed is that while occasionally an anony does create a useful page, that makes up a very small percentage. wbwolf (t | ed) 15:57, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure I agree with you, but I AM VERY ANNOYED WITH ALL THOSE NONSENSE PAGES. We could have, like, a requested article page for the annonies who want to create a page or something. free 16:15, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Meh, they're a minor annoyance. Nothing to get worked up about. — It's dot com 21:00, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Or we could just force everyone to LOGIN. *cough* ColdReactive 00:05, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
There's no reason to go that far. — It's dot com 01:43, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Back on the original topic of just restricting page creation: We're not Wikipedia, but what Wikipedia does can be informative to us. Wikipedia does in fact restrict page creation to logged-in accounts. What caused Wikipedia to make this restriction was not mere vandalism, but actual libel concerns related to biographies of living persons (the specific impetus a controversy in which a biography was created falsely linking a journalist to the John F. Kennedy assassination) and this was not caught for quite some time. We have no matters this serious here at HRWiki: some nonsense pages are being created and then deleted relatively soon thereafter. We don't sometimes miss a few pages that then sit around for a few days (Wikipedia sometimes does just because it's so big). This kind of step really isn't needed; our cleanup methods are fine. Heimstern Läufer 04:26, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Maybe it's just me, but surely it's more work to tidy up after anonymous users going on rampages than it is to simply prevent anonymous users from going on a rampage in the first place. Though I find it really weird that they even care enough to bother going on said rampage in the first place. In the last three hours, you and Jay have had to block twenty-five different IP addresses (most likely all the same user using some kind of spoofing software) and revert extremely offensive vandalism. I mean, you could have spent that time doing something more productive. --Belthazar 08:27, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
It would be sad and counterproductive to block all annonies from editing. Most of them do good work, and I'm sure most users here started as annonies. We should keep the open and inviting nature of this wiki and not panic because every once in a blue moon some idiot is bored. That would be over-reacting and destroying a part of our wiki's culture. Loafing 09:50, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Wow, I can't believe you actually did it. How long will this last? (No new users and no annony editing) I hope we can remove this lock soon...there were many many helpful annonies, and only one(?) very bad one. free 12:05, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, anonies can be helpful! Can they at least register, or is our member count forever frozen? Hagurumon 12:09, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
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