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Templating the weeklies?

While I've been working on the table heads, as well as the whitespace, on the archive pages for the Sketchbook and Weekly Fanstuff, I've thought about turning these pages into a bunch of templates! I was thinking we could make a template for the:

  • Top of each archive page, so that they wouldn't need to be updated one by one (if we ever need to).
  • Table heads, so that they wouldn't need to be updated one by one.
  • Items in the table, so that there's less to type compared to our conventional method.

What do you think? Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 17:54, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Coach Z pukes in dude's toupee

During my wandering through the internet, I went to my YouTube page, and saw that "sportsinterviewa," who uploaded the secret Strong Bad Gameways video, had uploaded a video, titled "Coach Z pukes in dude's toupee." As I got ready to watch it, it told me the video was removed, and now, there is no evidence of it ever existing, except for me as a witness. I was wondering if anyone else had seen it, and if it should be added to the updates page. I'll post a picture in a few minutes. (rct2guy)

it's back up --Neumannz 01:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Oh, ok then. Well, don't forget to add it to the front page. Though, I guess it's just a sneek preview of tomorrow's sbemail. But, be sure to make a note of it somewhere! :P (rct2guy 01:29, 6 October 2009 (UTC))
I saw it too...The scene is kinda like in senior prom, and its a 19 second video showing the Coach eating some food, then puking into Senor cardgage's combover, which appears to be a toupee. Coach Z puts it on at the end. I don't have audio, however. It has the appearance of being filmed on a TV with a video camera. - 01:29, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Well, it looks like the article is currently being worked on, so I guess this really doesn't mean anything anymore. :P rct2guy 01:37, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Looking at the video comments, it appears that the new sbemail is out, named videography. Apparently, the video is a link from an easter egg; clicking on the phrase "internet gold" brings you here. - 01:40, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Change the navs?

I just had an idea that maybe we can change the navigational systems on each page to display navd.png to the right of the navs with toons that have a YouTube video. What do you guys think? MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 21:26, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Heck no at all. I don't have favicons under normal circumstances, and I sure don't want forced ones. They're silly. --DorianGray 21:38, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
The icon would only show up in the navbar if they showed up next to links for you normally... in your inferior obsolete browser, DG, it'd just say "watch" without an icon. The question here is whether we want a watch link that goes to a YouTube video in the navbar. Personally, I could get behind it for things like Sample of Style and Sample of Style Too, but I'm not really sure either way for videos where there's already a link to the H*R site... having two links to the same thing on different sites in the navbar is probably overkill... --phlip TC 21:55, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Where the YouTube video is the only link available, it would be appropriate. Otherwise, we should just stick with the link to H* The YouTube link as well as the direct link to the SWF file are easy enough to find in the External Links section. — It's dot com 22:33, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Animated PNGs?

Well, since my test worked, would it be wise to use Animated PNGs in the future? They may be big in size, but they retain the 32-bit color scheme and partial color transparency as some of you may saw with my RyukiAnim.png file. For those of you who are wary of this, you can check out this image and see if your browser supports APNGs; if the circle is animated, then your browser supports APNGs (and yes, links, a terminal browser, even supports APNGs.) ColdReactive 13:36, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't think any animation-type-image-formats other than GIF will be used here for a long time. APNG or MNG isn't fully supported, not to mention these are two different "rivaling" formats (possible format war?). Besides, we don't use animated images like crazy 'round her so much that this would be a necessary discussion. By the way, what do you use to create APNGs? Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 20:42, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
MNG has been around for 11 years, and is too complicated for everyday/average person use. APNG was made to simplify that. Please start a forum topic for future discussion though, as this can get long. I used flash to make the animation first, then export it as a PNG Sequence, then use APNG Anime Maker. ColdReactive 21:10, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Forum topic for what? — It's dot com 21:21, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
This discussion. I don't think that's needed; this wiki's had some pretty long discussions in the past. Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 21:30, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
And? Sometimes we have long discussions. This isn't a question for the forum. — It's dot com 00:41, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Back on track, what do other people think? (This includes you mister of com.) ColdReactive 14:34, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I think this decision shouldn't be made right now. As I said, APNG/MNG isn't as much of a universally supported format as GIF. I say we wait until one of these formats begin to see better support in operating systems/web browsers. Until then, I see no problem with using GIFs, despite their limitations. Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 22:09, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
For the time being, it's a solid no. Based on our Web stats, at least a third of our users (measured by hits) still use a browser in which APNGs are not supported. Our animation needs are so limited and infrequent that GIFs are still just fine. — It's dot com 03:34, 20 October 2009 (UTC)


I'd like to bring up this discussion again. In reply to Phlip, getting something from Flash to SVG may not be as hard as you'd think. From what I've heard about the Mac-only Flash decompiler Gordon, any symbol can be exported to PDF. From there, that PDF can be put into Inkscape, which would create an exact copy of said symbol. For an entire scene, I suppose this could work as well, except making sure the viewport (right term?) matches the original could be a hassle. So, it can be done just for US$60 and a Mac! Now, if I would just buy the thing (Gordon)... Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 21:47, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


Is it legal to download the Flash files for the H*R toons/games? Jc iindyysgvxc 23:20, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 23:21, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Definetly yes. But according to Legal, you can't republish or distribute them. That'sBupkis! 23:25, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

How Long?

It's me again, just wandering how many years has HR Wiki been around? When was it created?

-- 14:17, 18 October 2009 (UTC)C-Son-L Sweaters and the Get Bored Crew

According to this, it was created on July 16, 2004 at 4:45PM UTC. That'sBupkis! 14:21, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
According to Hrwiki:A history it was started on 7 October 2003. cash money tc 14:25, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

podcast gone

the podcasts are gone and have been replaced with subscribe.

ween09 watch link on main page

it gives 404'd because of no .html at the end. ColdReactive 17:26, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. In the future, please just fix it instead of posting here. — It's dot com 19:38, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
How do I do that? I can't edit the main page directly, so I don't know what templates there are. ColdReactive 20:33, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Edit the {{whatsnew}} template. To find out what templates are on a page, click edit/view source (depending on whether the page is protected). There's a list of all used templates at the bottom of the page. — It's dot com 22:57, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Subtitles being stubborn

I've tried everything, and I can't seem to get these subtitles to display for anything. It's mainly the bottom section, because everything was working fine up to that point. MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 04:07, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

There is a debug feature built right in. In the Greasemonkey script, choose Test subtitles script from the submenu, and then enter the code you have so far. It'll tell you where the problem is. — It's dot com 19:45, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Homestar Runner Quiz

The Homestar Runner quiz has been shut down... This is going to cause some serious problems for userpages with links to images from this quiz. Think it should be noted somewhere? MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 05:37, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

No. That site is not affiliated with us, and we don't encourage image hotlinking. If an external image is broken on a user page, it's really not a concern for the whole wiki. — It's dot com 19:50, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Midori Web Browser

The navigation menu/etc. in midori is pushed to the bottom of the page on most pages), can anyone fix this? ( doesn't do this.) ColdReactive 13:08, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

I made some minor updates to a couple of files. It should work fine now. (Hard-refresh if it doesn't.) — It's dot com 22:09, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Mister of Com, it works haaaaaalllllll right. ColdReactive 22:33, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

quick question

Hey guys, just wondering, did Homestar Runner wiki's membership increase since the time the Brothers chaps, advertised this wiki on the actual site?

Cheers Nikolce Kocovski 01:18, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

It always increases. Did it increase more than usual? Hard to say. We've had a minor spam issue the last month or two - starting a little before TBC "advertised" us - so not all of the users from the last few months are legit. Plus, a number of users made user names but haven't made any contributions through them yet. --Jay (Gobble) 01:23, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Halloween theme

Why are you still using the Halloween theme for the website? Halloween is over! O-V-U-R OVER! 13:38, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

We always leave them up for a few days after Halloween each year. I had thought we left them up until the fan costumes commentary came out, but I guess not. — It's dot com 17:46, 6 November 2009 (UTC)


Have the Chapman Brothers ever made any edits to this Wiki? Jc iindyysgvxc 06:47, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

That's something we've occasionally wondered about ourselves. --DorianGray 06:49, 9 November 2009 (UTC)


Why do we keep vandalism in page history? Why don't we ever remove it entirely? Jc iindyysgvxc 07:33, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Some vandalism is removed entirely. But given that only certain users even have the ability to remove it? It's usually not worth the hassle. --Jay (Gobble) 07:50, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Pumpkin Show

Hey, um, I'm new to this, but, uh, isn't there a new toon already named "Pumpkin Show"? I don't think anybody put it on the main page or even started an article on it. Okay bye. CrabAttack1999 21:33, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind that. Also, thanks Omnisweater. 'Kay bye. CrabAttack1999 21:55, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Wiki user mentions

I just wanted to pop on and mention my dislike of mentions within articles of the contributions used by TBC and attributing them to users who sent them in. First, if it was not a wiki user it would not be notable. Therefore it should not be notable if it is. Second, they are commenting on fan items but we are not documenting the fans, we are documenting TBC.

Finally, if you want your 15 minutes of fame, sending a pic in to TBC to be immortalized on this wiki, that's not really playing by the rules. Going out on a limb here, but how many contributors sent in a pic hoping that TBC would feature it and they could be in an article?

I just don't like it. My peace. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 02:25, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I've never sent anything in, but if I did, I'd kind of hope that TBC would feature it and I could be in an article. I know we love to take ourselves super seriously, but when it comes down to it we're a fan-run knowledge base about an Internet cartoon. I really don't have a problem acknowledging those fans (with sufficient evidence) when relevant. As a wiki user, it is interesting to me when other wiki users have a direct influence on the course of the body of work. As that example shows, the horse left the barn at least five years ago, and there's really no point in shutting the door now. — It's dot com 02:36, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

dark monobook?

I was just wondering if it was possible for me to use an entirely dark skin for hrwiki using just my monobook.css? Or is it not possible? ColdReactive 19:19, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind, I seem to have got it for now. ColdReactive 19:26, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Oh and, how can I remove those nasty bg images on the front page using monobook? ColdReactive 19:48, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Image hex dumps

When i see thumbnails, they are usually glitched up! Heres some proof.

File:Picture 8.png

What's with this crap? - POM Z 05:27, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps it's your computer. I can see thumbnails fine.--Record307 Talk/Contribs 17:01, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
+1, I don't see any glitches. ColdReactive 14:55, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
I see a BIG glitch there. I don't know how you guys can't see that? -Tothelimit66 — (Talk | contribs) 23:37, 27 November 2009‎ (left unsigned)
POM Z, which browser are you using and on which operating system? Thumbnails are all good for me. Loafing 00:00, 28 November 2009 (UTC), if you mean the image above, we all see it, that's a screenshot POM Z took. All of the thumbnails look fine to me. Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 18:16, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Vector Skin?

Im trying to use the Wikipedia Vector skin, but i can't find the .js! Can anyone help? - POM Z 18:15, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

This isn't Wikipedia. Why don't you ask there. — It's dot com 21:12, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Happy 10th Berfday, H*R!

Since we've got a good two months for this i'm gonna ask: Are we having a H*R 10th Anniversary celebration? Like, January 1,2010. That'd be the 10th anniversary. My friend said on November 1,2009 there wasn't any kind of celebration...or even a message (y'know, for Matt's birthday). So, I just wanted to ask. CrabAttack1999 00:12, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, techincally... --Color Printer 03:48, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
It is, however, the 10th anniversary of As for celebrations, though, I don't really think there's much in the works. Really, what would we do? We're basically a Homestar Runner encyclopedia, not a place for socialization. There's been talk about having a Featured Article themed for that day, but other than that, there's not a whole lot I can think of that we would do that fits our nature as a website. Heimstern Läufer 03:52, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
"Not a place for socialization."... Errr... Are we not? We sent birthday cards to both Chaps, we have thriving forums and some users met each other in real life. That aside, why shouldn't we do something for the 10th anniversary? TBC recently strengthened the bond between the two sites in the recent donation drive, and I think we should do something spacial. At least send a card, or something... I know for sure that they themselves are planning a big toon for the occasion (I read in a recent interview), so why shouldn't we? Elcool (talk)(contribs) 05:32, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
When I referred to socialization, I meant something like an on-wiki celebration, which I assumed was what was being referred to in the above post. Something like a card for TBC? Yeah, that could be reasonable. Heimstern Läufer 05:41, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
I won't mind a on-wiki celebration. Maybe we could open our doors for a weekend and let anybody edit. Oh... We already do that. Well, we can invite everyone to sign up for free... Hmm. That too. How about we let everyone the chance to view the secret archives of every article and see for themselves how the wiki looked like... Err. I think we already do. Ok. I'm out of ideas. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 05:57, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

dat would be nice. Matt & Mike deserve a LITTLE celebration, so does the site...... i concur with the birthday cards. HAPPY FREAKIN' BIRTHDAY! and we could show Strong Bad screaming! just like the Mothers Day cartoon. -Tothelimit66

How about we all do what we can. Just a little something from each user that celebrates TBC and the glorious thing they've created for all the world to enjoy. Maybe someone could make a little flash cartoon or a .GIF, something that goes by in a few seconds saying something like "10 Years". Something along the lines of that. We don't have to really worry about it now, anyway, on account of we've still got...calculating...32 days and 6 hours before new years day anyways. That should be enough time to make at least something to show our gratitude for the website. I mean, what if we didn't make something and TBC visited and saw there wasn't any kind of thanks or 10 years anywhere? Do you want TBC to think we don't really even care? And, unless your an evil, evil person, you most likely don't want TBC to think we don't really even care. So, we should do something. We don't have to immediately do anything right now, but we should just brainstorm out some ideas. CrabAttack1999 23:00, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I got a little excited so I sloppily threw together a short Flash animation/presentation in around fifteen minutes. It's a rough draft, so keep that in mind when you notice the "rough edges", such as the lack of fading for the H*R logo and the lack of fading for the Compé. I was thinking that around the 15-second mark, when the images fade away, that there could be a few fading messages or quotes or thank-yous or yays or usernames... I dunno. Here's the rough draft. Suggestions, please? Mean remarks are okay, too. — fuchsiania 01:13, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
That's actually pretty good. Could probably add the Everybody Everybody music or something.
Isnt the anniversery the sixth? Though, that doesn't give us a lot of time, but still. StrongAwesome 22:21, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
That's extra-terri-cular-iffic! No, seriously, that was very grood. Beats my animation, I can't animate anything better than windows movie maker and microsoft paint (which, of course, wouldn't be actual animation, more like a slideshow of pictures). More to the point, it's something that could be of use to stuff we could do. And, as the wiki itself (and Wikipedia, I checked just to make sure) states that the launch date was January 1, 2000. So, it's a sorta Tenthennial Extravaganza. Or, as Crackotage would say, "A Tenthennial Extravaganza. Guest-starring Tony Danza... and (for no reason, whatsoever) some guy from Bonanza." I just know they're (probably) gonna have some toon to celebrate. CrabAttack1999 22:09, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Heh, heh, thanks for the compliments!... but... suggestions, please? — fuchsiania 04:09, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm. Suggestions, suggestions...maybe some background music. Everybody Everybody, like someone said above. Or, you could do the music from Old Intro and Old Intro 2. Or, maybe a quick comment from Strong Bad. He could say something like "Wow we're old." Well, that's just something he could say. You could probably think of something better for him to say, that was just an example. He could say something smart-alickey and clever. Something he would say. CrabAttack1999 18:38, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
May I suggest something? I think there should be some dramatic music in there. There's probably the possibility that TBC will check the wikion New Years, unless they forget (but how could they forget?). So we certainly need to do something. So, a card is a good idea. Stavey the Stupid Hippie 20:55, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
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