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:::Everyone has a right to their opinion, Jellote. And as for the transcript: I think it should have all of Strong Bad's responses, and other players' responses as needed. It all depends on how the game is executed. I have a feeling, though, that it will turn into a bit of a debate when the game comes out. --{{User:DENNIS/sig}} 00:17, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Everyone has a right to their opinion, Jellote. And as for the transcript: I think it should have all of Strong Bad's responses, and other players' responses as needed. It all depends on how the game is executed. I have a feeling, though, that it will turn into a bit of a debate when the game comes out. --{{User:DENNIS/sig}} 00:17, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
This is aimed at Cyberlink420: According to the Telltale crew, this game has more dialogue than a Sam & Max episode
This is aimed at Cyberlink420: According to the Telltale crew, this game has more dialogue than a Sam & Max episode
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:Any transcript might be overkill.  At least with [[SBCG4AP]], certain triggers would occur to help organize the massive dialog trees.  If there are set pieces that might work, however. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:46, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
== Swears? ==
== Swears? ==
I don't find the promotional artwork with a "swear" that the article refers to.  Little help?  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:48, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't find the promotional artwork with a "swear" that the article refers to.  Little help?  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:48, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
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:I've heard arguments from both sides, but I'm kind of leaning towards The Heavy. There was one argument that kind of stuck out to me: calling him "Heavy" would be like calling The Cheat "Cheat". However, I am by no means an authority on the subject. --{{User:DENNIS/sig}} 23:56, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:I've heard arguments from both sides, but I'm kind of leaning towards The Heavy. There was one argument that kind of stuck out to me: calling him "Heavy" would be like calling The Cheat "Cheat". However, I am by no means an authority on the subject. --{{User:DENNIS/sig}} 23:56, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
::I'm willing to accept that. I mean, his full name ''is'' "Heavy Weapons Guy" - it was that in ''QuakeWorld Team Fortress'', it was that in ''Team Fortress Classic'', and while it was abbreviated to "Heavy" in ''TF2'', it's still short for "Heavy Weapons Guy" as per [[Youtube:jHgZh4GV9G0|"Meet the Heavy"]]. Nevertheless, there's some fact to how nobody really uses that name in its entirety anymore. Not really worth arguing that point; however, when we're talking about the character and not just a bunch of in-game players, then it's ''the'' Heavy (eg: the difference between "the Heavy really likes to eat his Sandvich" and "crap, there are three Heavies with their guns revved around the corner, pop that Uber first"). That's my stance and I'm sticking to it. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 02:47, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
::I'm willing to accept that. I mean, his full name ''is'' "Heavy Weapons Guy" - it was that in ''QuakeWorld Team Fortress'', it was that in ''Team Fortress Classic'', and while it was abbreviated to "Heavy" in ''TF2'', it's still short for "Heavy Weapons Guy" as per [[Youtube:jHgZh4GV9G0|"Meet the Heavy"]]. Nevertheless, there's some fact to how nobody really uses that name in its entirety anymore. Not really worth arguing that point; however, when we're talking about the character and not just a bunch of in-game players, then it's ''the'' Heavy (eg: the difference between "the Heavy really likes to eat his Sandvich" and "crap, there are three Heavies with their guns revved around the corner, pop that Uber first"). That's my stance and I'm sticking to it. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 02:47, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
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:::I was wrong and I apologize for the reverts.  I've since seen other evidence. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:46, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
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:::Incidentally, Max refers to him as "Mr. Weapons" [[User:Webrunner|Webrunner]] 14:35, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Relations to other characters ==
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Should it be mentioned how Strong Bad feels about other characters and vice versa?  I read here:
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http://www.gamepro.com/article/previews/216419/pax-2010-poker-night-at-the-inventory/
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That Tycho and Strong Bad really hate each other.  They disagree with everything.  Meanwhile, the Heavy thinks Strong Bad is like a tiny Heavy.  Haven't heard anything about what he thinks of Max or what Max thinks of him. - [[User:SnakeBoxer202|SnakeBoxer202]] 04:05, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
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== Character articles ==
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Should we make character articles for Max, Heavy, and Tycho? I mean, IIRC, we've never had to deal with crossover media in the past, so it's not like there's established precedent...
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Personally, I think it'd be fine to make articles for the characters themselves, but not for the franchises they come from. Likewise, even if they mention other characters from the series (like how Max references Flint Paper), we shouldn't make articles for them unless they actually make a physical appearance in-game. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 23:11, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
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:I think it would be better if we provided a link to another wiki, instead of creating an article here. That's what we do with other non-H*R related material. {{User:DENNIS/sig}} 00:17, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
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::[http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Heavy Heavy] and [http://www.samandmax.net/wiki/Max Max] both have excellent articles in their respective wikis; no point in repeating that work here. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 05:28, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
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== New news article with some item details and pictures. ==
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http://kotaku.com/5681102/how-valve-will-bribe-team-fortress-2-players-into-playing-poker
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-[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.223|128.103.10.223]] 06:39, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Release date announced.  Now what? ==
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We now know that the game will be released [http://www.telltalegames.com/community/blogs/id-714 on November 22nd].  How are you going to update this page?  Will it serve as a central page, similar to how [[SBCG4AP]] evolved into?  Or will we put the transcripts, references, etc. direction on this page? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 02:25, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
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:It should be similar to the [[Stinkoman 20X6]] page, IMO. There's going to be a lot of dialogue in this game according to Telltale, so we might want to split it up for size. A separate page for each section of the fun facts might be a bit over the top, but still, we're going to need to split up the transcript regardless. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:30, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
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::As far as Fun Facts are concerned, I think we should only put the ones that concern Strong Bad on the page (THIS page.)  The Sam & Max Wiki, TF2 Wiki, and Penny Arcade Wiki can deal with the rest. --{{User:The New Uzi-Bazooka/sig}} 02:42, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
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== I don't like where this is headed... ==
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If we're going to document everything Strong Bad says, could we just go ahead and document it instead of talking about his dialogue in pseudo-Fun Fact style? That section is going to get way to big, way too fast, and it looks pretty sloppy. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:56, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
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:The main problem, as I see it, is the dialog is random.  There's certain things he'll say upon an action, but they are mostly unremarkable (for example: He'll just "Call." or "Oh, I'm raising!").  Others, there's no particular reference, such as Max brings up New York City, and talks how violent it is, and then Strong Bad turns it into a taunt of Tycho, saying he has a snowglobe from "New Dork City".  So, do we stick with the dialog that is particular interest to this wiki, or do we try to cover all the dialog?  It's a tough call, and neither is particularly satisfying. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 17:11, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
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::There a page for Strong Bad's Poker Night Dialogue on this wiki and the equivelent page on the poker night at the inventory wiki needs filing out [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 17:27, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
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:::Another major challenge is that you can't intentionally prompt him to say certain things, making it hard to get things exactly word for word.  I'm for it being done, I just ain't gonna be the guy to do it.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:51, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
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I think we should mostly include his longer lines of dialogue, as that's the focus of this game. I've found a video with the majority of the game's lines. I also think this needs cleaning up, either as a subset page or as a proper quotes section. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcJtbUeMRs8] [[User:Strong Plaid|Strong Plaid]] 03:49, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
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:Personally, I think in the "References" section on this page (if indeed we need one, which is debatable), it should only talk about references to the HR Universe Strong Bad makes.  The rest could go on the Responses page.  Speaking of which, there's a {{p|l=http://theinventory.wikia.com/wiki/Strong_Bad%27s_Dialogue Poker Night at the Inventory wiki}} that lists a lot of Strong Bad dialogue not here.  I only added the ones I heard personally, but if somebody wants to be more of a completionist, go for it. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 20:27, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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:Personally, I think that just because this is the ''Homestar Runner'' Wiki, there is no reason for us to focus exclusively on Strong Bad. You know, like give Tycho, Max, and Heavy their own Response pages. And another thing: I think we should have a censored and uncensored version of each of those pages, like we do with some of the interviews. {{User:Neox/sig}} 20:03, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
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:: All three other characters have responce pages on the Poker Night Wiki. If you want to help add to them please do so. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 00:24, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
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:::Nyoro~n. <:3 {{User:Neox/sig}} 20:15, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

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[edit] does this need to be a page?

I was thinking that since it isn't an actual Homestar game, it might not deserve an article. cash money tc 01:30, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

If it features Strong Bad and is made by TBC in some part then it definitely belongs in the wiki. I don't see how it could not. --Stux 01:36, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Since it will be featuring what is arguably hr.com's most popular character, I think it deserves an article. However, it will be a stub until the game comes out and we can analyze it. --DENNIS T/C 01:37, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, we shouldn't delete this because when the game comes out, we'll have more information about it. Than we'll discuss if it should stay. So I say Keep for now. Rondleman! Stuff I did.Talk. 02:07, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

well, even though its REALLY not a Strong Bad game, Strong Bad is a main character and he makes a large appearance. This by far deserves its own page. If the couch has its own page, a product should have its own page.

I see no reason not to. It's no different than the Mario Wiki having an article on Super Smash Bros. or TFWiki having an article on Dream Mix TV despite not being "pure" entries in their respective franchises. If a Homestar character takes a central role and the product is endorsed by TBC, then it deserves its own article. Hell, if it's anything like Telltale Texas Hold 'em, the transcript article is going to be MASSIVE. -- Cyberlink420 03:15, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
I can't believe this is even in question. It is an official game with Strong Bad as a playable character, licensed by the Brothers Chaps, using a model from a previous game, and presumably voiced by Matt. This is most certainly noteworthy. As for the transcript, a seperate page for dialouge, like the SBCG4AP ones, seems like an answer. Should it focus on Strong Bad's lines only, Strong Bad's lines and their responses, or, dare I say it, a complete transcript?--Jellote wuz here 20:12, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Everyone has a right to their opinion, Jellote. And as for the transcript: I think it should have all of Strong Bad's responses, and other players' responses as needed. It all depends on how the game is executed. I have a feeling, though, that it will turn into a bit of a debate when the game comes out. --DENNIS T/C 00:17, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

This is aimed at Cyberlink420: According to the Telltale crew, this game has more dialogue than a Sam & Max episode

Any transcript might be overkill. At least with SBCG4AP, certain triggers would occur to help organize the massive dialog trees. If there are set pieces that might work, however. wbwolf (t | ed) 15:46, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Swears?

I don't find the promotional artwork with a "swear" that the article refers to. Little help? OptimisticFool 02:48, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

It appears to have originated from a "VIP" site. Look at comment #671 here. I'll look for this fabled VIP site some more. --DENNIS T/C 02:56, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Ah. Here we go. I haven't gone through all the images, but the claim that swears will be on the game originated from the forum, and the VIP pictures the user referred to came from this link. This rumor doesn't seem to have much meat on it. --DENNIS T/C 03:02, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Well, this is rather embarrassing. I was wrong. --DENNIS T/C 03:03, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
For what it's worth, Telltale reps have confirmed the cursing will either be bleeped or have the option to be bleeped. --Shadow Hog 02:47, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Heavy Weapons Guy Name

There is clearly disagreement with HWG's name. First off, both of the article's entries should be consistent. Second, should this disagreement continue it should be settled here on this talk page along with accompanying research supporting either claim. Should both claims have merit, we'll host a game of rock, paper, scissors. --Stux 23:51, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

I've heard arguments from both sides, but I'm kind of leaning towards The Heavy. There was one argument that kind of stuck out to me: calling him "Heavy" would be like calling The Cheat "Cheat". However, I am by no means an authority on the subject. --DENNIS T/C 23:56, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm willing to accept that. I mean, his full name is "Heavy Weapons Guy" - it was that in QuakeWorld Team Fortress, it was that in Team Fortress Classic, and while it was abbreviated to "Heavy" in TF2, it's still short for "Heavy Weapons Guy" as per "Meet the Heavy". Nevertheless, there's some fact to how nobody really uses that name in its entirety anymore. Not really worth arguing that point; however, when we're talking about the character and not just a bunch of in-game players, then it's the Heavy (eg: the difference between "the Heavy really likes to eat his Sandvich" and "crap, there are three Heavies with their guns revved around the corner, pop that Uber first"). That's my stance and I'm sticking to it. --Shadow Hog 02:47, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
I was wrong and I apologize for the reverts. I've since seen other evidence. wbwolf (t | ed) 15:46, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Incidentally, Max refers to him as "Mr. Weapons" Webrunner 14:35, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Relations to other characters

Should it be mentioned how Strong Bad feels about other characters and vice versa? I read here:

http://www.gamepro.com/article/previews/216419/pax-2010-poker-night-at-the-inventory/

That Tycho and Strong Bad really hate each other. They disagree with everything. Meanwhile, the Heavy thinks Strong Bad is like a tiny Heavy. Haven't heard anything about what he thinks of Max or what Max thinks of him. - SnakeBoxer202 04:05, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Character articles

Should we make character articles for Max, Heavy, and Tycho? I mean, IIRC, we've never had to deal with crossover media in the past, so it's not like there's established precedent...

Personally, I think it'd be fine to make articles for the characters themselves, but not for the franchises they come from. Likewise, even if they mention other characters from the series (like how Max references Flint Paper), we shouldn't make articles for them unless they actually make a physical appearance in-game. -- Cyberlink420 23:11, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

I think it would be better if we provided a link to another wiki, instead of creating an article here. That's what we do with other non-H*R related material. DENNIS T/C 00:17, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
Heavy and Max both have excellent articles in their respective wikis; no point in repeating that work here. wbwolf (t | ed) 05:28, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

[edit] New news article with some item details and pictures.

http://kotaku.com/5681102/how-valve-will-bribe-team-fortress-2-players-into-playing-poker -128.103.10.223 06:39, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Release date announced. Now what?

We now know that the game will be released on November 22nd. How are you going to update this page? Will it serve as a central page, similar to how SBCG4AP evolved into? Or will we put the transcripts, references, etc. direction on this page? wbwolf (t | ed) 02:25, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

It should be similar to the Stinkoman 20X6 page, IMO. There's going to be a lot of dialogue in this game according to Telltale, so we might want to split it up for size. A separate page for each section of the fun facts might be a bit over the top, but still, we're going to need to split up the transcript regardless. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 02:30, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
As far as Fun Facts are concerned, I think we should only put the ones that concern Strong Bad on the page (THIS page.) The Sam & Max Wiki, TF2 Wiki, and Penny Arcade Wiki can deal with the rest. --The New Uzi Bazooka 02:42, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

[edit] I don't like where this is headed...

If we're going to document everything Strong Bad says, could we just go ahead and document it instead of talking about his dialogue in pseudo-Fun Fact style? That section is going to get way to big, way too fast, and it looks pretty sloppy. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 05:56, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

The main problem, as I see it, is the dialog is random. There's certain things he'll say upon an action, but they are mostly unremarkable (for example: He'll just "Call." or "Oh, I'm raising!"). Others, there's no particular reference, such as Max brings up New York City, and talks how violent it is, and then Strong Bad turns it into a taunt of Tycho, saying he has a snowglobe from "New Dork City". So, do we stick with the dialog that is particular interest to this wiki, or do we try to cover all the dialog? It's a tough call, and neither is particularly satisfying. wbwolf (t | ed) 17:11, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
There a page for Strong Bad's Poker Night Dialogue on this wiki and the equivelent page on the poker night at the inventory wiki needs filing out Guybrush20X6 17:27, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Another major challenge is that you can't intentionally prompt him to say certain things, making it hard to get things exactly word for word. I'm for it being done, I just ain't gonna be the guy to do it. OptimisticFool 01:51, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

I think we should mostly include his longer lines of dialogue, as that's the focus of this game. I've found a video with the majority of the game's lines. I also think this needs cleaning up, either as a subset page or as a proper quotes section. [1] Strong Plaid 03:49, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I think in the "References" section on this page (if indeed we need one, which is debatable), it should only talk about references to the HR Universe Strong Bad makes. The rest could go on the Responses page. Speaking of which, there's a Poker Night at the Inventory wiki that lists a lot of Strong Bad dialogue not here. I only added the ones I heard personally, but if somebody wants to be more of a completionist, go for it. Stev0 20:27, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Personally, I think that just because this is the Homestar Runner Wiki, there is no reason for us to focus exclusively on Strong Bad. You know, like give Tycho, Max, and Heavy their own Response pages. And another thing: I think we should have a censored and uncensored version of each of those pages, like we do with some of the interviews. but, a buttdanceNeox ONION BUBS!YOU WILL RESPECT MAH AUTHORI-TAH!!! 20:03, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
All three other characters have responce pages on the Poker Night Wiki. If you want to help add to them please do so. Guybrush20X6 00:24, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Nyoro~n. <:3 but, a buttdanceNeox ONION BUBS!YOU WILL RESPECT MAH AUTHORI-TAH!!! 20:15, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
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