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Someone should make this page into a nice, good ol' table.
Someone should make this page into a nice, good ol' table.
:No, I think it's fine the way it is. --[[User:acekirby13|<font color=green>acekirby13</font>]] 15:40, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
:No, I think it's fine the way it is. --[[User:acekirby13|<font color=green>acekirby13</font>]] 15:40, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
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== American/British spelling? ==
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Hello;
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I have seen, and not corrected, two instances of the word "labelled".  This is the British spelling.  Is there a localization preference?[[User:Sgleason|S Gleason]] 19:04, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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: It may have been at least partially my fault. My dictionary lists both spellings as correct, but like you, it admits that the two-L'd version is more common in American English and the three-L'd in British. Since this is an American cartoon, we're supposed to use American spelling here in all cases (except transcripts, where SB misspells something on his computer or something like that), but I (and maybe others) simply didn't realize that one-L was right. My bad. Nobody's perfect. Go ahead and change it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:11, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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::I change words like "favourite" to "favorite" on this site, to keep it "American." You know, unless it is necessary to be spelled with a "u." May as well change "labelled" to the American version too. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:15, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Thank you, both! I will use American spellings. [[User:Sgleason|S Gleason]] 20:34, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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== Page Move'd? ==
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Shouldn't this page be moved to "Spelling and Grammar"? "Poorly Written Emails" would be good too, since that's what's in the [[Strong Bad Email]] template. Either one would make more sense, since the whole page isn't just about spelling. Any other opinions?
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{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 04:56, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
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:You've got a point, Mr. Matt. I agree unless anyone else has a good reason the page shouldn't be moved. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:59, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
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::I can't think of one. I 'gree too, and have occasionally wondered the same thing myself. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
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:::Well, what should it be moved to, exactly? "Spelling and Grammar", "Poorly Written Emails", or something else? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 22:30, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
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::::Whatever, I'm gonna be '''bold''' and move it to '''Poorly Written Emails'''. If anyone objects, please speak up. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:37, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
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==My Sister and Me==
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It's a common mistake, but it almost works. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:13, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
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== Viklas ==
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Um, shouldn't "little questions", which is the second most famous crappily written email (after homsar, of course), be somewhere in here?
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-Zero.exe
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:From [[{{PAGENAME}}#Emails With Poor Grammar|Emails With Poor Grammar]]: "[[little questions]] - Viklas from Sweden's English leaves a little to be desired." --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 16:27, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
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==Emails with more than one mistake==
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Right now if an email has grammatical errors as well as misspellings, as many of them do, it appears to be randomly thrown under one of the three headings. I believes this negates the purposefor subdividing the mistakes. I can see three options as to fixing this problem.
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-Option 1: We place all the mistakes in one section.
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-Option 2: We add a section with multiple mistakes.
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-Option 3: We create a more orderly method of assignment. I.e if an email has bad grammer, misspellings, and leaves no space between Strong and Bad, it is filed under bad grammer.
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-[[User:Geshmalderborgen|גשמלדרברגן]] 22:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
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== Error table ==
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Hey, I have an idea! Why not create a table that has emails on the left column, grammar errors on another, capitalization errors on another, mispellings on another, and poor puncuation on another? This way, we can only mention every poorly written email once.
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: Hey, that's a good idea! I agree with you too! It makes the article more easier to read than having all these random emails scattered all over the place. Somebody try to do it sometime. --[[User:Ang the Ephemeral|Ang the Ephemeral]]
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:: Well, I did it. I think it needs a bit of editing and more incorrections but I organized it all in a table. This revision I think is better.
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== How unorganized/crappy a page ==
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Boy, I hope someone reads this.  This "Poorly Written Emails" page '''needs''' '''''fixed'''''.  A lot of the entries contain errors that don't belong (I'm seeing a lot of style errors) or errors in the wrong place (capitalization is mentioned under grammer/punctuation, for example).  Also, I'm sure there are e-mails that aren't mentioned on this page that should be.  This page needs a major revamp, but I'm not the one to do it.  I don't really have the time, first off, and second, I'm too lazy.  Does anyone (or ''anyones'') think they could maybe tidy up this page???  I just thought this needed pointed out. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
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:Stick a {{t|cleanup}} on it, and someone's bound to notice and fix it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:38, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
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::Wow, he's right. I didn't even know we had this page. I may do it this Saturday if I have nothing else to do at work. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 07:57, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
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:::Ironic, isn't it, that a page about poorly written emails is poorly written? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
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::::I can add it to [[HRWiki:Article cleanup|the list]] if you'd like; that way we'd be sure it's done right. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 19:48, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
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Maybe they should just sort it into separate rows per e-mail as opposed to per flash file. Here are some examples:
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:[[spring cleaning|Spring cleaning]] would be split into either three or four rows.
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::(2) "Do you have a secret crush ''with'' Marzipan", a missing comma, and Steve doesn't capitalize his own name or "Sterling". (3) No comma between "Bend" and "Oregon" (4) Repetitive use of the word crap (not as vulgar, just redundant). (5) "Suprised"
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:[[50 emails]] would be split into three rows.
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::(1) "Strong Bad" not capitalized, and an exclamation mark instead of a question mark. (2) "Stong Bad", and Matt doesn't capitalize his own name. (4) No commas.
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These are my examples, which are currently only brief. The real version would be more organized. [[User:Wiremeup13579|Wiremeup13579]] 21:19, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
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==Cleanup==
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I see that this page needs a lot of cleanup.  I am wondering though, in which way should it be cleaned up?  I am thinking about capitalizing the table entries and including periods.  Also, I don't think it would hurt if the " " is taken out and things are actually repeated.  Some of the sentences need rewording, and in the Emails that spell Strong Bad/Strong Badia as one word, the note "But spells 'Strong Badia' correctly should be changed to just "Spells 'Strong Badia' correctly".
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Anything else that should be changed?{{User:Saddy_Dumpington/sig}} 13:56, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
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:Okay, I added all of the capitals and added the names of senders where applicable.{{User:Saddy_Dumpington/sig}} 16:03, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
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==Possibly Unnecessary==
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This is still a very messy page. Maybe it should just be a listing of the poorly written emails all with links to that emails hrwiki page. All of these emails have a whole page dedicated to them and those pages more than likely list the inconsistencies with the english language. If they don't they should. What do you guys think? [[User:Awesomermustang|Awesomermustang]] 20:02, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
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:They actually don't, really. On those pages, we're more interested in what the Chaps put out than the stuff the emailers misspell. That's why this page exists in the first place. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:08, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
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::I can understand that. Let's keep it! [[User:Awesomermustang|Awesomermustang]] 20:29, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
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== This might not be much, but... ==
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DO YOU THINK IT WOULD MAKE ANY SENSE TO WRITE IN "ENTIRE E-MAIL CAPITALIZED" IN ALL CAPS ITSELF? I KNOW ALL THIS WOULD REALLY DO IS MAKE IT MORE NOTICEABLE AND HINT TO PEOPLE WHO SPEAK ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE (Though it is my main one), BUT IT'S WORTH A SHOT. (THIS IS ONLY IN ALL CAPS JUST FOR FUN.) [[User:Wiremeup13579|Wiremeup13579]] 21:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
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== Nobuyoshi...male or female? ==
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Okay, the poorly written e-mails description says Nobuyoshi doesn't capitalize '''his''' i's.
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* "i love The Cheat! Can you ask him for me if he is taken?"
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Otherwise, the general name is probably gender neutral.
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== Will there ever be a "perfect" e-mail? ==
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Anyone notice that not a single e-mail is "perfect"? As in no spelling, grammer, punctuation, or capitalization errors? Except for "homsar", which Strong Bad considers having no mistake. It technically does have a mistake, but Strong Bad never counts it as one, but we do. Do you think there will 'ever' be a "perfect" e-mail? I'm putting it in quotes because Strong Bad will always find a way to make fun of it, I got to find a way to stump him! --[[Special:Contributions/24.13.162.218|24.13.162.218]] 18:24, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
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:The forum might be a better place for this. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:26, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
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::You might also check out [[Emails that meet Strong Bad's approval]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:26, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
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:::There actually is at least one: [[some kinda robot]]
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== what-time-is-it ==
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I don't think bed-time can be classified as a spelling error. Yes, it's not traditional, but it is technically correct because both "bed time" and "bedtime" exist. "Bed-time" can also be classified as a [https://www.grammarly.com/handbook/mechanics/compound-words/2/hyphenated-compound-words/ hyphenated compound word], such as in "editor-in-chief". It is not an example of a poorly written word, just a quirk of grammar. - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 21:54, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
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== Added to the list ==
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I added [[super powers]] to the list because the poor grammar of the email affects Strong Bad's pronunciation of the first question. 19:23, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
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== Emails with no greeting/opening ==
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Should these count as being poorly written? It's generally considered poor etiquette.
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:I don't think poor etiquette technically counts as poorly written. They shouldn't be included. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 23:16, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
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::(Edit conflict'd) Well, they are mentioned at the bottom of the [[Strong Bad Email By Greeting|respective]] [[Strong Bad Email By Closing|pages]], which are linked in the green box at the bottom of the page. There are several of them. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:20, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
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== Niklas/Viklas ==
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I still think his name was meant to be Niklas. [[User:Wolf O&#39;Donnel|Wolf O&#39;Donnel]] 03:32, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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:How often do you misspell your own name

Current revision as of 14:15, 5 August 2022

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[edit] Table

Someone should make this page into a nice, good ol' table.

No, I think it's fine the way it is. --acekirby13 15:40, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] American/British spelling?

Hello;

I have seen, and not corrected, two instances of the word "labelled". This is the British spelling. Is there a localization preference?S Gleason 19:04, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It may have been at least partially my fault. My dictionary lists both spellings as correct, but like you, it admits that the two-L'd version is more common in American English and the three-L'd in British. Since this is an American cartoon, we're supposed to use American spelling here in all cases (except transcripts, where SB misspells something on his computer or something like that), but I (and maybe others) simply didn't realize that one-L was right. My bad. Nobody's perfect. Go ahead and change it. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 19:11, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I change words like "favourite" to "favorite" on this site, to keep it "American." You know, unless it is necessary to be spelled with a "u." May as well change "labelled" to the American version too. —BazookaJoe 19:15, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank you, both! I will use American spellings. S Gleason 20:34, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Page Move'd?

Shouldn't this page be moved to "Spelling and Grammar"? "Poorly Written Emails" would be good too, since that's what's in the Strong Bad Email template. Either one would make more sense, since the whole page isn't just about spelling. Any other opinions? Has Matt? (talk) 04:56, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

You've got a point, Mr. Matt. I agree unless anyone else has a good reason the page shouldn't be moved. Heimstern Läufer 04:59, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
I can't think of one. I 'gree too, and have occasionally wondered the same thing myself. --DorianGray
Well, what should it be moved to, exactly? "Spelling and Grammar", "Poorly Written Emails", or something else? Has Matt? (talk) 22:30, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Whatever, I'm gonna be bold and move it to Poorly Written Emails. If anyone objects, please speak up. Has Matt? (talk) 13:37, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My Sister and Me

It's a common mistake, but it almost works. Retromaniac 00:13, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Viklas

Um, shouldn't "little questions", which is the second most famous crappily written email (after homsar, of course), be somewhere in here? -Zero.exe

From Emails With Poor Grammar: "little questions - Viklas from Sweden's English leaves a little to be desired." --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif 16:27, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Emails with more than one mistake

Right now if an email has grammatical errors as well as misspellings, as many of them do, it appears to be randomly thrown under one of the three headings. I believes this negates the purposefor subdividing the mistakes. I can see three options as to fixing this problem. -Option 1: We place all the mistakes in one section. -Option 2: We add a section with multiple mistakes. -Option 3: We create a more orderly method of assignment. I.e if an email has bad grammer, misspellings, and leaves no space between Strong and Bad, it is filed under bad grammer.

-גשמלדרברגן 22:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Error table

Hey, I have an idea! Why not create a table that has emails on the left column, grammar errors on another, capitalization errors on another, mispellings on another, and poor puncuation on another? This way, we can only mention every poorly written email once.

Hey, that's a good idea! I agree with you too! It makes the article more easier to read than having all these random emails scattered all over the place. Somebody try to do it sometime. --Ang the Ephemeral
Well, I did it. I think it needs a bit of editing and more incorrections but I organized it all in a table. This revision I think is better.

[edit] How unorganized/crappy a page

Boy, I hope someone reads this. This "Poorly Written Emails" page needs fixed. A lot of the entries contain errors that don't belong (I'm seeing a lot of style errors) or errors in the wrong place (capitalization is mentioned under grammer/punctuation, for example). Also, I'm sure there are e-mails that aren't mentioned on this page that should be. This page needs a major revamp, but I'm not the one to do it. I don't really have the time, first off, and second, I'm too lazy. Does anyone (or anyones) think they could maybe tidy up this page??? I just thought this needed pointed out. EYanyo 05:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Stick a {{cleanup}} on it, and someone's bound to notice and fix it. --DorianGray 05:38, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Wow, he's right. I didn't even know we had this page. I may do it this Saturday if I have nothing else to do at work. —NFITC1talk 07:57, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Ironic, isn't it, that a page about poorly written emails is poorly written? --DorianGray 08:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I can add it to the list if you'd like; that way we'd be sure it's done right. -Brightstar Shiner 19:48, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Maybe they should just sort it into separate rows per e-mail as opposed to per flash file. Here are some examples:

Spring cleaning would be split into either three or four rows.
(2) "Do you have a secret crush with Marzipan", a missing comma, and Steve doesn't capitalize his own name or "Sterling". (3) No comma between "Bend" and "Oregon" (4) Repetitive use of the word crap (not as vulgar, just redundant). (5) "Suprised"
50 emails would be split into three rows.
(1) "Strong Bad" not capitalized, and an exclamation mark instead of a question mark. (2) "Stong Bad", and Matt doesn't capitalize his own name. (4) No commas.

These are my examples, which are currently only brief. The real version would be more organized. Wiremeup13579 21:19, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

I see that this page needs a lot of cleanup. I am wondering though, in which way should it be cleaned up? I am thinking about capitalizing the table entries and including periods. Also, I don't think it would hurt if the " " is taken out and things are actually repeated. Some of the sentences need rewording, and in the Emails that spell Strong Bad/Strong Badia as one word, the note "But spells 'Strong Badia' correctly should be changed to just "Spells 'Strong Badia' correctly".

Anything else that should be changed?- Saddy Dumpington 13:56, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I added all of the capitals and added the names of senders where applicable.- Saddy Dumpington 16:03, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possibly Unnecessary

This is still a very messy page. Maybe it should just be a listing of the poorly written emails all with links to that emails hrwiki page. All of these emails have a whole page dedicated to them and those pages more than likely list the inconsistencies with the english language. If they don't they should. What do you guys think? Awesomermustang 20:02, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

They actually don't, really. On those pages, we're more interested in what the Chaps put out than the stuff the emailers misspell. That's why this page exists in the first place. --DorianGray 20:08, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
I can understand that. Let's keep it! Awesomermustang 20:29, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This might not be much, but...

DO YOU THINK IT WOULD MAKE ANY SENSE TO WRITE IN "ENTIRE E-MAIL CAPITALIZED" IN ALL CAPS ITSELF? I KNOW ALL THIS WOULD REALLY DO IS MAKE IT MORE NOTICEABLE AND HINT TO PEOPLE WHO SPEAK ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE (Though it is my main one), BUT IT'S WORTH A SHOT. (THIS IS ONLY IN ALL CAPS JUST FOR FUN.) Wiremeup13579 21:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nobuyoshi...male or female?

Okay, the poorly written e-mails description says Nobuyoshi doesn't capitalize his i's.

  • "i love The Cheat! Can you ask him for me if he is taken?"

Otherwise, the general name is probably gender neutral.

[edit] Will there ever be a "perfect" e-mail?

Anyone notice that not a single e-mail is "perfect"? As in no spelling, grammer, punctuation, or capitalization errors? Except for "homsar", which Strong Bad considers having no mistake. It technically does have a mistake, but Strong Bad never counts it as one, but we do. Do you think there will 'ever' be a "perfect" e-mail? I'm putting it in quotes because Strong Bad will always find a way to make fun of it, I got to find a way to stump him! --24.13.162.218 18:24, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

The forum might be a better place for this. — Defender1031*Talk 18:26, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
You might also check out Emails that meet Strong Bad's approval. --DorianGray 20:26, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
There actually is at least one: some kinda robot

[edit] what-time-is-it

I don't think bed-time can be classified as a spelling error. Yes, it's not traditional, but it is technically correct because both "bed time" and "bedtime" exist. "Bed-time" can also be classified as a hyphenated compound word, such as in "editor-in-chief". It is not an example of a poorly written word, just a quirk of grammar. - Catjaz63 21:54, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Added to the list

I added super powers to the list because the poor grammar of the email affects Strong Bad's pronunciation of the first question. 19:23, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Emails with no greeting/opening

Should these count as being poorly written? It's generally considered poor etiquette.

I don't think poor etiquette technically counts as poorly written. They shouldn't be included. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:16, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
(Edit conflict'd) Well, they are mentioned at the bottom of the respective pages, which are linked in the green box at the bottom of the page. There are several of them. The Knights Who Say Ni 23:20, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

[edit] Niklas/Viklas

I still think his name was meant to be Niklas. Wolf O'Donnel 03:32, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

How often do you misspell your own name
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