Talk:Sickly Sam's Big Outing

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Why "Shaboigen"?

Why? I looked and I couldn't see anywhere where it was spelled as Shaboigen, and not the actual spelling of Cheboygan or Sheboygan, depending on which one you're talking about (most likely Cheboygan, because they're in the 20s and referring to bootlegging). --Tony from Cheboygan, MI

"And the rest!"

I'm not going to add it to the page, but did anyone else think about The Robot, Mr. Bland, and Señor at "The Rest"? It's probably a reach, but the one in the middle IS robotic-looking. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 09:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

No i think you are right that was the first thing i thought when i saw the toon. The-homsarrunner 13:52 2008 Feb 11

The robot, I can see. The other two, not so much. One's an alien (Old Timey Nebulon?!), and the other looks like a peanut with a black eye or something. I don't see the connection. But that's just me. --Bobsmith84 14:05, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

The one on the right reminded me of Emmitt Nervend from Freakazoid. --DavidCatmull

Same thing here. DEFINATLY saw Emmitt Nervend. D: -Aranai 16:28, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I kinda do think they're supposed to be Old Timey Robot, Bland, and Señor. That was my first thought when I saw them, and them not being in the actual toon fits in context the way Mr. Bland and Señor are often mentioned in passing as if they're main characters but they're really not. On the other hand, however, you have different fingers. And since we can't be sure, and since they weren't in the toon and are not likely to ever be in an Old Timey toon, I don't think it needs to be mentioned anywhere but on a talk page.--.Johnny Jupiter! talk cont 00:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

"Dee = Ugly One?"

Is the cow that Sickly Sam ends up with the Old-Timey The Ugly One? I mean, she has quite similar specs and hair.--User:Kerny Mantis 09:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

yea and with the glasses maybe... but we should wait for another opinion because so far the only old timey characters have been the characters that live in Free Country USA so... it probaly isn't The Ugly One.
Check the names of the the sender's friends in the email comics to see.--ONESTOP 21:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
None of them are named Dee. The Ugly One is not from Free Country USA, the glasses were just popular in that era, and SHE'S A COW! So, no. No Ugly One.--.Johnny Jupiter! talk cont 00:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

The Birds?

The Sneak being attacked by the seagulls reminded me of the Alfred Hitchcock movie The Birds. Does anyone else think this is a reference? --Bobsmith84 13:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Firehouse reference?

This is a bit obscure, but at the end of this cartoon, Sickly Sam says, "I've finally found the love of a lifetime." which could be in reference to a song of the same name from the hard rock band Firehouse (since the Brothers Chaps seem very knowledgable about hard rock bands from that era). Other similar references were "Kevin Dubrow" a Quiet Riot reference from The Bet email and "Here I go again on my own" a Whitesnake reference from the Mile email. Not to mention all the old guitarist pics they have up in their audio recording room (seen in Sample of Style).

Horse or Cow?

I'm pretty sure Dee is a horse, not a cow. For one thing, she has no utter. Plus, a horse would make more sense at a glue factory. Exhibit A (talk · edits) 20:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

You're right. Fixed. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 20:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

It's definitely a cow, udders or no udders. It's got the spots, the cow-ish face and the cow-ish tail. Besides, cows are used at a glue factory as well, not just horses. ({User:Kerny Mantis)} 21.02 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I think the tail is one of the best bits of evidence for her being a horse. It's basically just a mass of hair, like a horse's tail. Heimstern Läufer 21:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Problems playing file?

Is it just me, or did they do something to break the file? There's no audio after the word "..program" in the intro?

Why no Places

In the "Places" section on the wiki, why aren't there any listed? Also I would wonder if I could make the page called the Saw Mill where The Homestar Runner and Old-Timey Marzipan were being sawed by Old-Timey Strong Bad after Sickly Sam burned the film.--ONESTOP 21:13, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

They're not listed because no one's bothered to list them yet. --DorianGray 21:25, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


Is "Skid Row" the Old-Timey alley?--ONESTOP 22:01, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

It's possible! --DorianGray 22:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Super Modern Telegram

As The Homestar Runner gets the telegram it say SUPER MODERN TELEGRAM and as he reads it it says HONEST TELEGRAM.--ONESTOP 23:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Feel free to add that to the Remarks section. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 23:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Goofs? Really?

There are currently two goofs listed:
  • When Old Timey Strong Bad jumps in on the boardwalk, Sickly Sam's hat disappears.
  • The color of the end stripe on The Sneak's tail changes periodically throughout the toon.
Given the nature of this toon, I'm not sure we can count these as goofs. There are many purposefully introduced "goofs" in this toon. We should simply ignore it as we do with Powered by The Cheat "goofs". Loafing 23:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I agree. Especially about the hat. Lelila 07:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Hmmm... that's true, TBC might have done that just because in those older films sometimes they would forget to keep prop continuity. Not sure though. --Abelhawk 20:36, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


Are we sure that "Foiled again!" is from the Dudley Do-right segment? I mean, Dick Dastardly from the old CN cartoon Wacky Racers also uses that. And that's just one example...

Dressed to the 5 3/4s?

Is this a play on the phrase "Dressed to the nines?" implying that Sickly Sam will only be dressed moderately better? If so, does this warrant an explanation?

It sounds like a good idea. I'd never heard that expression before, and that phrase slightly confused me.--.Johnny Jupiter! talk cont 02:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Live Action?

Should it be mentioned under Remarks that unlike previous Old-Timey cartoons, this one seems to be styled after live action TV shows, with props on strings and poorly edited outakes?--Tenka Muteki 01:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

The poor editing in Old-Timey cartoons has been seen before, but I do agree that it's unusual for there to be obvious sticks and props in what should be an ANIMATED show. Remark-worthy? Dunno. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 01:50, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I think it's remark-worthy. Previous old-timey toons looked like they showed what actually happened back then, while this one clearly shows that it's all staged with scripts, acting, bad special effects and editing. Loafing 01:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Fort Wayne Locomotive

Anyone else think his voice might be based on Art Carney (TV's Ed Norton, and the inspiration for Yogi Bear and Barney Rubble)?

Someone apparently thought exactly that, as Ed Norton and Art Carney were previously mentioned before someone else removed it as "Dubious". --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 03:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I see it got re-added... maybe it's true, but wouldn't it be better to mention this on his character page instead? It's not like we put "Bubs' voice sounds like Redd Foxx" in the RWRs of every toon *he* appears in... -YKHi. I'm Ayjo! 20:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Five and 3/4

Is that a reference to five and dime stores? Awexome 05:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't think so. I think it was parodying the phrase "dressed to the nines." Lelila

Ribcage Stomach

It seems to be a reference to cartoons such as Tom and Jerry, as they would often use the ribcage as a stomach. Perhaps another 80s reference?

Tom and Jerry predate the '80s by about 40 years.— Bassbone (TALK Strong Mad Has a Posse CONT) 02:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I didn't say Tom and Jerry were '80s, but that was more of a 'cartoons such as.' I'm not sure entirely on dates, but cheap '80s cartoons probably had their share of ribcagey stomachs. Anyway. NOT THE POINT. xD

Possible STUFF?

The line "We shan't get foiled again" is a possible old-timey reference to the 1971 song Won't Get Fooled Again by The Who. -- Lazylaces Talk 15:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

No. Common phrase. Not clear reference. – The Chort 19:30, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Give Him the Business

When Strong Bad says that step one of the plan is to "give him the business", it reminded me of a couple of referree's description of personal foul penalties. Video clips of them can be found on YouTube, along with a reference from the new American Gladiators. Not sure if someone wants to include that in the Fun Facts, but I'd thought I'd mention it. — (Talk | contribs) 15:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC) (left unsigned)

Giving the business is an oooooold expression. Watch just about any Leave It To Beaver episode to see that it was commonly used back in the late-50's. Here's an example:
Wally: Boy, Beaver, wait'll the guys find out you were hanging around with a girl. They'll really give you the business.
Beaver: But gee, Wally, you hang around with girls and the guys don't give you the business.
Wally: Well, that's because I'm in high school. You can do a lot of stuff in high school without getting the business.
Whether or not it was in use much before then, I have no idea. But I do know that this is more likely to be a reference to something old than to something from this year, given that this is an old-timey cartoon. (BTW, I'm not claiming this is a reference to Leave It To Beaver, I'm just making the point that it's an old expression.) OptimisticFool 16:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


Do you think we should add something like this to the Trivia section? Like, that says:

The cut during the telegram scene may be because doorbells haven't been invented yet.

Or, more likely, The Homestar Runner messed up his lines and the editor was incompetent. (Plus doorbells were invented way before the 1930s.) – The Chort 19:29, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

So... What happened to them?

What do you think happened to Old-Timey Homestar and Old-Timey Marzipan at the Saw Mill? I guess that Fat Dudley came to the rescue just in time, but that wasn't shown. I figured that would be possible for two reasons.

  • 1: Fat Dudley was mysteriously absent, and should have appeared at some point. This is less likely.
  • 2:The "Saw Mill" scene is an retro cartoon cliche, and a hero (in this case, Fat Dudley) would have most definetly come to the rescue just in time, as the cliche goes. This is very likely.

So, what do you think happened to them?

I'm thing of a word. It begins with an "s". What is it? Oh yeah, it's speculation! No offense, but this is complete speculation. User talk:Sam the Man Sam the Man 20:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Fact Consolidation?

This one is listed under "Explanations":

  • Early 20th century films would be partially colorized in some parts of certain scenes for emphasis. This colorization would have to be done after the film was already made.

And this one is listed under "Remarks":

  • The first color films appeared in the late 1920s, but experimental color films (which this resembles) with only part of the scene colorized or tinted, were done as early as first decade of the 20th century.

Shouldn't these two be connected together into a single fact?


I Just Saw That The Way Fort Wayne Locomotive Spells Trouble Is Like How Tigger Fromw That Show About That Bear Spells His Name :T-I-Double G-ger

What he means is that in Winnie-The-Pooh, Tigger spells his name T I Double-guh Er, and the Fort Wayne Locomotive does something like that.

That's more or less what it reminded me of, too. --Abelhawk 20:34, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Boo for Sickly Sam!?

They sound more like gasps or something like that to me. DEI DAT VMdatvm center\super contra 21:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd thought something like that too but was never sure enough to tell. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 23:37, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, I wasn't sure what to call it, so I just went with "boos"... if you can think of a better description, go ahead and fix it... the reaction to SB's intro is definitely booing though. --phlip TC 07:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Might be groans. You know, like, "Uuugh... not that creepy diseased kid!" It's pretty hard to tell. There's not really a definite "boo" that I can hear, it's just kind of sounds of displeasure. --lelila 04:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


Do you s'pose that Sickly Sam eating a board game is some kind of reference to how Strong Sad's only friends were board games? Something kind of like that? --Abelhawk 20:33, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

No, it's a bit of a stretch. And it's just a joke anyway ("Curses! All they've got in here is Parcheesi!"). – The Chort 20:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

The Fort Wayne Locomotive's Music?

Okay, that 8-bit style music that plays when TFWL runs away sounds like it could very well be from some NES game or something, especially since you can hear some beeps and stuff. Anyone more familiar with the NES era want to confirm or deny this? Because it wouldn't surprise me a bit. I mean, they've referenced NES tons of times before... -- Nevadie 22:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm only an intermediate NES aficionado, but I don't recognize it. It sounds to me like it fits pretty well with the rest of the music in the toon.--.Johnny Jupiter! talk cont 23:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that's not old-timey toon music. Listen again. The background music stops when he says "A 1, and a 2..." and then when he runs off, it sounds like some sort of NES music--you know, beeps and whatnot. I wish I could remember. Was there a NES football game? Or something? -- Nevadie 03:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
NES, no way, you are thinking way too high tech- think tiger hand held games like this: [1] I cant find a recording, but that is the exact sound of that game. csours 11:52, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

What the Skin color

What isn't the skink color oof normal marzipan Pink so that means thaT OLD-TIMY MARZPAN IS PANK COLOR. pROOF IS THAT NO LIKE STRONG SAD AND NO BODY LIKE SICKLY SAM, STRONG BSAD IS A WRESTLER AND OLTIMY IS A BOXER AND SO ON AND SO ON -YKHi. I'm Ayjo! (must...resist... urge... to make Secret of the Stars joke...)
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