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{{talkchecklist|Checklist for new Strong Bad Email:}}
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*Create an article with the title of the new email (as listed on the [[HR:sbemail.html|Strong Bad Email menu]]) with the content <tt><nowiki>{{subst:newsbemail|###}}</nowiki></tt> (substitute the new email number for <tt>###</tt>). If you already know the forum thread number, use <tt><nowiki>{{subst:newsbemail|###|#####}}</nowiki></tt>.
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*Create an article with the title of the new email (as listed on the [[HR:sbemails|Strong Bad Email menu]]) with the content <tt><nowiki>{{subst:newsbemail|###}}</nowiki></tt> (substitute the new email number for <tt>###</tt>). If you already know the forum thread number, use <tt><nowiki>{{subst:newsbemail|###|#####}}</nowiki></tt>.
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*Update [[Template:sbemail]]. Be sure to set the value of "last" to the new email.
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*Update [[Template:sbenav-lookup]].
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*Update main [[Strong Bad Email]] list, and the [[Template:Strong Bad Email|template list]].
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*Update main [[Strong Bad Email]] list, the [[Template:Strong Bad Email|template list]], and the [[Strong Bad Email Menu|menu list]].
*On the main [[Strong Bad Email]] page, update the total emails and various fun facts.
*On the main [[Strong Bad Email]] page, update the total emails and various fun facts.
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**On the [[Corpy NT6]] update the total count of emails checked.
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*Update each list in the Strong Bad Email [[Template:StrongBadEmailInfo|navigation template]] (and verify in each page's history that the previous email's entries were updated as well).
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*Update each list in the Strong Bad Email [[Template:StrongBadEmailInfo|navigation template]] (and verify in each page's history that the previous week's entries were updated as well).
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*Update [[Template:recenttoons]].
*Update [[Template:recenttoons]].
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*Update [[HRWiki:Subtitles/Data#Strong Bad Emails]].
 
*Link the email page to the forum and vice versa, if necessary.
*Link the email page to the forum and vice versa, if necessary.
*Redirect <tt><nowiki>[[</nowiki>sbemail###]]</tt>, <tt><nowiki>[[</nowiki>sbemail ###]]</tt>, and <tt><nowiki>[[</nowiki>Strong Bad Email ###]]</tt> to the current email.
*Redirect <tt><nowiki>[[</nowiki>sbemail###]]</tt>, <tt><nowiki>[[</nowiki>sbemail ###]]</tt>, and <tt><nowiki>[[</nowiki>Strong Bad Email ###]]</tt> to the current email.
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*Update [[Template:whatsnew]], [[H*R.com updates {{CURRENTYEAR}}]], [[New Stuff]] and [[All Toons]] with an entry to the new toon.
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*Update [[HRWiki:Subtitles/Data#Strong Bad Emails]], [[Template:whatsnew]], [[H*R.com updates {{CURRENTYEAR}}]], [[Index Page Messages]], [[Main Page Messages]], [[Strong Bad Emails By Length]], [[All Toons]], and [[YouTube]] (if applicable) with an entry to the new toon.
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*Update [[Secret Pages XML Source#Random Toon XML File]] with [[HR:rando.xml|rando.xml]] (click View->Page Source and copy/paste).
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*Check your work using [[Special:Sbemailcheck]].
*Check your work using [[Special:Sbemailcheck]].
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== No. of words per e-mail? ==
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== Overlooked ==
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Hmm... We should make a page that says how many words there are on the sender's email... Does anyone agree? [[User:Sp0ng3b0b|Sp0ng3b0b]] 10:06, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
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What is the most overlooked Sbemail? [[User:Jc iindyysgvxc|Jc iindyysgvxc]] 06:19, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
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:I'm not sure how that would be useful information...{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
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:RickTommy - What do you mean? African or [[other days|European Sbemail]]? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 19:49, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
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== Main Story Arc ==
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== Era=mrehh. Emails=mr<big>EEEEEEEh!</big> ==
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We should just change the Era to Emails! It's a more slicker, catchier name for the email menus. [[User:POM Z|POM Z]] 15:18, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
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:I don't think that would be a good name. just think of it... Emails: Mreh. SBemails, mrEEEEEEh! besides, what kind of emails? SBEMAILS!! don't you see? [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 23:34, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
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::This is a good idea. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 03:52, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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Just wondering if we should start compiling a main story arc page thing for the strong bad e-mails. Not all of the e-mails of course are a part of the main story arc for the strong bad e-mails. Though, it could take some time before such a thing is compiled. There are also other arcs as well (I believe), but I wouldn't know what to name them. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
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== Sbemail shortage ==
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:...What main story arc? --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 20:54, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
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::Let's see here... lappy getting stolen, paper dying-ish, virus email, tandy exploding, etc. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
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:::Those are all different stories and/or story arcs, not a main one.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:14, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
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::::That and if anything, they're more of a running gag than a story arc. --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 01:45, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
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== Finished ==
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Why have there been so few Sbemails lately? [[User:Jc iindyysgvxc|Jc iindyysgvxc]] 23:18, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
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: There have been more since June than there were between September and June. Anyway, while I can't say for sure, I personally believe the Chaps have decided to focus on things other than sbemails. And this question is better suited for the forum. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:35, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
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Hey guys, um, I think TBC are finished with sbemails. I have two reasons:
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== Corpy NT6 Section ==
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A. They said in the email thunder commentary that they were done
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I think the sbemail imagination counts as a Lappy email, and therefore, we should remove the Corpy NT6 section and put imagination on the Lappy section! Who's with me? [[User:MICGAGUH]]
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B. I just tried to email strong bad, and it said that the address was dead, like, they closed the e-mail account.
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:Not me. The Lappy's destroyed, so it's not a Lappy email. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:29, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
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So should we put that on the page?
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::First of all, the email is called "imaginary", not "imagination". Secondly, there was [[Talk:Strong Bad Email/Archive 6#Premature Era?|already a discussion on this]] and we decided what we decided. Thirdly, if it DOES have to be said again, then the lappy's been destroyed and the Compé wasn't purchased yet, so the way we have it now is good and smart. That's all. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:46, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
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--[[User:Crudely Drawn Cupcake|Crudely Drawn Cupcake]] 01:13, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
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:::To be fair, the previous discussion doesn't have a clear consensus. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.194|132.183.140.194]] 18:49, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
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:I sent him something and it made it through. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 01:25, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
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::::And to clarify... there's no Lappy and Compé is not around yet. To my mind, [[imaginary]] should remain exactly where it is. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 00:40, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
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::Seconded, no weird errors. Are you sure you typed the email address correctly? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:28, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
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I just clicked on the paper at the end, and also, what about the whole commentary thing?--[[User:Crudely Drawn Cupcake|Crudely Drawn Cupcake]] 02:19, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
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:Then it means your browser isn't set up for the link from the paper to work, and i still hold the opinion that the commentary is them messing with us. But it's really pointless to discuss hre anyway, as it has no bearing on the page. If they make more, we'll report it, if they give a sure sign that they're over, we'll report that. Nothing to do in the meantime, and any speculation is pretty much pointless. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:22, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
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::Is it speculation if TGITC say it? I mean TBC not TGITC.  --{{User:Blow Up the Ocean/sig}} 01:17, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
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:::Perhaps?  --{{User:Blow Up the Ocean/sig}}
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If they actually officially ''announce'' that they're over with the Sbemails, then I think it'll certainly be notable to post.  However, what they said on the commentary may ''or'' may not be true, considering that TBC are rather evil in that they like to mess with our heads all the time.  As such, it isn't notable enough to be put on the page. If you guys want to continue speculating, you may want to take it over to the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum], where your comments will be better received.  {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 05:42, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
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:Do you post on the forum?  --{{User:Blow Up the Ocean/sig}} 05:47, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
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We're now coming up on 6 months since the last sbemail. My opinion is, if the 23rd of March comes and goes with no sbemail, the page should change to the past tense. --Cydonos 20:29, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
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:No. It is not our decision to officially declare the end of Strong Bad Emails. When TBC themselves announce that they're not going to do anymore emails during a public appearance or interview (the [[email thunder]] commentary does NOT count), only ''then'' do we change the page to the past tense. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:46, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
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Why does the commentray not count? What law are you citing? SBEmails are over, except for specials and whatnot. I am calling it. Remember that you read it here. [[Special:Contributions/98.216.8.68|98.216.8.68]] 12:01, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
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== Possible certain day for email milestones ==
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:You're calling it? You're hardly the first. The reason we don't give the commentary much weight is that it's clear that they hadn't discussed it ahead of time, and they don't take their own commentaries very seriously. They've been known to say things simply for the shock or humor value. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:42, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
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Well, there's a "Best of sbemails" DVD now, and the "Best of X" is usually only after show or franchise ends, plus the "Sbemailiraization" seems to explain why they won't be doing sbemails anymore! -A logged-out Waferman [[Special:Contributions/71.190.163.41|71.190.163.41]] 19:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
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Has anyone ever noticed that every single email milestone has been on a Tuesday rather than the traditional Monday? Like, [[50 emails]], [[flashback]], [[rock opera]], [[alternate universe]] and [[email thunder]]. They've all been on Tuesdays. What's up with that? {{User:Crab Attack1999/sig}} 21:46, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
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:We know all of this, but until they announce that emails are over in a serious interview or on the website, we're not going to declare anything as being official. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:11, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
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:I would theorise that making a milestone email takes more effort than an ordinary one, especially given the length of the most recent ones. Thus, they take longer to do, and get put out a day later. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:49, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
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::(me, quoting a sbemail):You may be half-right... {{User:Crab Attack1999/sig}} 20:35, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
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in an easteregg on [[email thunder]] that says that the poopsmith will break his silence every 200 sbemails. im not sure, but that could be an evidence of more sbemails! --[[User:Safariventureman|Safariventureman]] 19:51, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
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== No new sbemail in over...6 Weeks?! ==
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== pop culture satire? ==
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Why haven't made one in 6 weeks? I hope he's not re-e-tired. What's the delay? {{User:Crab Attack1999/sig}} 20:36, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
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:Well, TBC said they aren't going to be making those Sbemails as often, so to allow Homestar to take the spotlight, or at least get away from doing one every week. Plus, Halloween just happened, and Thanksgiving is coming. They are either too preoccupied with the holidays or making a toon as we speak. Just stay calm and a new toon will come soon.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 20:47, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
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::He can't type any more because he has human hands now. Okay, really, this is not the longest sbemail break, it's not the first, and it's not worth worrying about. Also, this is not a forum (though we have one). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:06, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
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:::Jay, I just wanted to say I enjoyed your response very much (the first sentence).  -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.236|132.183.140.236]] 21:15, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
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:::: That is because the new baby was born. Duh! They need to care for the baby through it's first weeks and most importantly help Jackie Chapman with the little tyke! [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 23:30, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
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::::: I hope they come out with a 'toon or SBemail for Decemberween!
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In the intro we list 3 emails that satirize pop culture, japanese cartoon, action figure, and isp.  The anime satire's pretty solid, but I dunno how prominent action figures and bandwidth are in current pop culture.  Should we consider replacing those examples with ones that satirize even more prominent aspects of pop culture?  (I dunno what they'd be, too lazy to look right now.) -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.130|132.183.151.130]] 22:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
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== Old Menu Files Still Active ==
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Would it be worth it to actually mention in either the Strong Bad Email Menus or Fun Facts section that the links to the Lappy and Corpy menus still feature the most recent (Compé-era) updates, while the other menus still on the H*R site only go up to the last e-mail posted on them?
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== Typing ==
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Naturally, the explanation is that these Flash files still access the current list, while the other menus are effectively closed files.  It's not strictly necessary to put it up there, but I at least find it interesting. '''''[[user:Kyojikasshu|kyojikasshu]]''''' 21:04, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
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I might never understand how Strong Bad types so fast. Especially with boxing gloves on! [[User:Fingerface|Fingerface]] 21:04, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
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::That's {{pl|l=http://www.forum.hrwiki.org forum talk}}, kid. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 21:05, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
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== Gaps ==
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== Calculated Update Frequency ==
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I know that there's gaps noted, and how sometimes its noted on the site, like with the [[LELLOWTAPE]] in [[redesign]]. But should it be noted about the beginning of hremail 3184 where strong bad finishes off homestar's hremail to start his new email, and saying that he's coming out of e-tirement? its me, crudely drawn cupcake, it can't sign in.--[[Special:Contributions/173.71.176.27|173.71.176.27]] 20:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
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In a fit of nerdular nerdulance, I decided to calculate the update frequency for the different sbemail eras. It might be worth noting to show how TBC have gradually moved away from the "updates every Monday" phase.
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== sbemail201 > hremail3184 ==
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First up, the three primary (and now completed) eras:
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hremal3184 should be taken over 201, as sbemail201 isn't a file. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 14:21, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
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* Tandy era ([[halloweener]] - [[vacation]]) - 1 sbemail / 1.19 weeks (8.35 days)
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:Yes, but do we call flashback sbemailahundred or email thunder sbemailtwohundred, or do we call senior prom kotpoptoon? [[USER:SBE-MAIL CHECKER DAN]] was here at 10:23 AM
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* Compy era ([[invisibility]] - [[virus]]) - 1 sbemail / 1.46 weeks (10.23 days)
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::the first two you mentioned are numbers, so those are fine. But I don't think the latter works. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 14:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
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* Lappy era ([[animal]] - [[email thunder]]) - 1 sbemail / 2.43 weeks (17 days)
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:::Right, so hremail3184 shouldn't work, cuz it's not a sbemail number. If it were a Hremail page with the different eras (which there are only two definetely known) then i'd under stand. But in this case, we should keep it sbemail201 User:SBE CHECK DAN. 10:33
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::::I think you misunderstood me. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 14:35, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
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Note that the Tandy era begins with the first sbemail listed with a definitive date of posting, with both [[some kinda robot]] and [[homsar]] listed as being posted "on or before September 13, 2001".  Assuming a posting of some kinda robot no earlier than August 27, the following would be the high end average figure:
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* Tandy era ([[some kinda robot]] [estimate] - [[vacation]]) - 1 sbemail / 1.25 weeks (8.73 days)
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== Hremails too! ==
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For the Lappy era, I listed the regular update period through sbemail 200. If we factor in the more than nine month break before hremail3184, the numbers are skewed thusly:
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I think Hremails count as sbemails too, so that means there have been 205 emails so far, not 202. So can we please put hremails on this page? [[User:MICGAGUH]]
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* Lappy era ([[animal]] - [[hremail3184]]) - 1 sbemail / 2.88 weeks (20.17 days)
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:No, hremails are hremails, sbemails are sbemails, and neither are the same. ('cept for hremail3184, but...) USER: Sbemail Checker Dan
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== Premature Era? ==
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Since the Corpy transition consists of only one sbemail, frequency of Corpy sbemails is a non-factor.
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Does anyone think it's premature to call this the "Corpy Era?"  He's only used it for one email.  We don't have, like, Pom Pilot and Tangerine Dreams eras.  We don't yet know whether Stro Bro will continue to use this computer as his main email-checking hardware. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.54|132.183.140.54]] 19:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
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Finally, you have the Compé era, which has been stalled due to the current baby hiatus.  We can only go by the date of the most recent update, which at this point is videography (October 5).
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:I'm afraid this kind of question is for the forums. --[[Special:Contributions/76.224.216.122|76.224.216.122]] 19:15, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
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* Compé era ([[independent]] - [[videography]]) - 1 sbemail / 2.67 weeks (18.67 days)
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::No, this isn't a forum question. Why on Earth would you think so?! Anyway, it's an interesting question. [[the bird]] clearly took place between two Tandy emails, as did [[weird dream]]. But is this a Lappy-era email? An ''[insert computer here]''-era email? Hard to say at this point. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
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:::If Strong Bad checks at least two more emails on the Corpy, I guess we'll call that an era, albeit a very small one.  But what if he gets a new computer in the next email?  I guess it would be best to call it a Lappy-era email, since the ''[insert computer here]''-era should probably start with the email in which ''[insert computer here]'' is introduced.  [[User:Omnisweater|Omnisweater]] 19:33, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
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::::I think given the limited info available, what we have is fine for now. If the Corpy turns out to be a one-off interim computer, then I'd guess [[imaginary]] would belong to the Lappy era per Omnisweater's reasoning and the Corpy email menu would be treated like the [[Broken Tandy Menu|Broken Tandy and ]][[Broken Compy Menu]]s. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:23, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
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:::::Why on earth would we put them in Lappy era? the Lappy's dead. Why not a "Mixed Computer Era" instead? [[User:FalconPuncher]] 6:55 PM
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== Flinger's Menu ==
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Alternatively, if we were to consider the "modern era", the resumption of sbemails from hremail3814 on, as a separate update period, we'd get a different figure:
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* Modern era (transition from Lappy to Compé: [[hremail3184]] - [[videography]]) - 1 sbemail / 2.77 weeks (19.4 days)
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Starting at this email ([[imaginary]]), the sbemails page doesn't say Denny's Menu  --[[User:Smahksilae|Smahksilae]] 03:45, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
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Food for thought... obviously, it would need some consensus before this info would be posted.  (And, yes, I was pretty bored today.) '''''[[user:Kyojikasshu|kyojikasshu]]''''' 21:59, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
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yes,and it has a subject bar that look's like lappy, i wonder why nobody noticed it before??? --[[User:Lamer99|Lamer99]] 14:32, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
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== SBEmails? ==
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:This would be something for [[Strong Bad Email Statistics]].&nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:14, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
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::Silly me, I didn't even see the Statistics page.  And it's already covered.  My bad. '''''[[user:Kyojikasshu|kyojikasshu]]''''' 15:36, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
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Why does everyone think that Arcade Game, Puppet Time, Lookin' at a Thing in a Bag, Superbowl Dealie, and Rotten Eggs are sbemails? Half of them don't even mention the word "email" in them (NO, "SBEMAIL NEXT WEEK" OR "DUE TO THE SUPERBOWL, THE SBEMAIL WILL BE LATE THIS WEEK" DOES NOT COUNT). Just because the Compy appears doesn't mean it's an email. The NQSBEMails should only be ones that mention Strong Bad checking an email (Weclome Back, for example), ones that are a teaser for a milestone (Not The 100th Sbemail, SBEmail 150?!?), or ones that have an actual email and he answers it (SBCG4AP and Sick Day). -[[USER: SBE-MAIL CHECKER DAN]] 9:58 AM, July 23rd, 2009
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== Question  ==
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:Yes, but those cartoons are different from regular "Shorts" in the way that they are made to show that there will be a new Sbemail soon. For example, you don't see a notice after most of the regular cartoons saying "Holiday Toon next week" or something close to that. Because they can't be grouped like the normal cartoons, they're grouped as NQSbemails. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 15:25, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
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::Dan: That's not what our definition of Not Quite Strong Bad Emails is (emphasis on the "Not Quite"). The only thing that matters is that each of these shorts "were originally associated in one way or another with the Strong Bad Emails". That's it. Sure, some of them fill in gaps between emails while others were just notes stuck on the Compy's screen, but they all meet the minimum criterion. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:11, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
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:::Oh, well, could we at least put Homestar Ruiner and StrongBadia the Free on there? They opened up with an email, and all five episodes had minor, optional, emails. SBE CHEK DAN (don't feel like righting the whole thing)
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== random.bat ==
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Is sbemail206 ever coming out? It's been 4 months and counting.
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:Funny, around this time last year, people were saying the same about sbemail 201. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:08, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
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:: There was a baby in the family recently, shortly following the Halloween toon. I'm not at all surprised that the updates have been scarce. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:37, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
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:::I concur with Jay, here, folks! I am not at all surprised, but I am getting impatient. How bad of me. Just be patient peoples, and the next SBemail will come, i assure you.[[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 17:39, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
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::::Okay, I think I know why sbemail206 is not coming. In DTotM, when Strong Bad's gloves turn into hands, the Compe gets knocked away. This means the Compe is most likely broken. Or (this may sound ridiculous, but I think it's also possible) they want our article on [[the basics]] to stay with the lowest page hits. I mean, why should the basics have the lowest page hits if Strong Bad himself claimed it was his favourite e-mail? [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] 22:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
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:::::Ummm...
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::::::You're right, this IS the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. I was content to just ignore it, but i'm concerned that if no one says anything, you'll continue to make unnecessary edits such as "Ummm...". So i'm saying it. This is all speculation, and baseless speculation at that. Did Homestar never appear again outside of the painintg after [[Jibblies 2]]? Did Homsar stay dead after [[homsar]]? Did the tandy and compy stay dead? These types of continuity just don't happen in the HR universe in general. Further, since this has nothing to do with article content, it doesn't belong here anyway, whether it's a good theory or not. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 09:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
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Has anyone noticed that there is no random button?
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== Updated list? Or just the XML? ==
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:Yes. It's noted in the remarks section. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 19:34, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
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== Loading... and Loading... and Loading... ==
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If you have recently checked the [[hr:sbemail_corpy.swf|Corpy NT6]] menu, you will notice that the post-Corpy era emails are also there. Is it an actual TBC update, or is the Corpy reading the Sbemail list from an XML file? --{{User:Darkangel/sig}} 07:23, 11 February 2010 (UTC) (Holy crap, since when have I stopped using that picture?)
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:EDIT: I just noticed that the Lappy menu does so too. Both menus have no animations whatsoever.
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::Yeah, ever since [[random.bat]] came out, the menus have read from [[XML Sources#Random Toon XML File|rando.xml]]... so that includes the Lappy and Corpy menus. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:28, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
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Today, the sbemail menu keeps on loading and loading and loading. If you use the greasemonkey script to fast forward past the loading screen, you'll notice there are no emails on the random.bat thing. Also, doing this may cause Firefox to hang and give an error. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:43, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
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== Compé Era Box Background is broke... ==
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:Works for me. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:36, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
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::And me. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 22:40, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
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Can someone fix it? Firefox shows just black with StroBro's head. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 05:07, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
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:::That's because it was fixed when you replied. Sorry I didn't take a screenshot. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:14, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
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:Inline background images are disabled until the next upgrade. I put a temporary workaround in Common.css. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:43, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
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::::All that happened was that rando.xml was unavailable for whatever reason. You can duplicate the effect by saving the menu file and opening it locally. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:31, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
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== Still shot ==
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Which email is [[File:DVD5Pausescreen.png|this shot]] from? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:29, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
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: That's from when you hit "pause" on the later sbemail DVDs. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:29, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
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::Though if anything, i'd say it's probably from [[pizzaz]]. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 11:13, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
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:::The background is the same as in pizzaz, but that exact image never occurs in that email. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:48, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
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==Can't remember!==
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What is the name of the email where Strong Bad makes loud and flashy shoes to impress the ladies, but they make the power go out. Strong Mad, The Cheat, Strong Sad, and Homestar Runner watch a guy's head(I forgot his name) taped to a TV. And Strong Bad asks them to help send emails without electricity. Then he tapes a paper with writing of the email covering the actaul screen and he pretends to type, Strong Sad holds a blank piece of paper, covering up the words, and uncovers the letters Strong Bad "types" and Strong Maad holds The Cheat who has the "Click here to email Strong Bad" paper, and the wires are tied to Homestar. Then if you wait a bit Homestar and Strong Sad suddenly sing about pee.
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:That would be [[extra plug]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:49, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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== Forhorglingrads ==
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What is the email that is the start of "Fahoobigahs(sp)"? This is very important to me for it was the start of my getting hooked on SB Emails. --- Mikelj84606 ---
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:Say it with a flourish: ''"fhqwhgads."'' The email you're looking for is [[i love you]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:32, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Everything is ''not'' fine, ''something'' is ruined ==
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I don't know if this is just a glitch on my system or what, but the sbemail list is looking like [[:File:sbemailpageglitch.PNG|this]]. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 03:46, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
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:This is an effect of a [[HRWiki:2011 Server Move|recent server change]]. [[HRWiki talk:2011 Server Move|We're already talking about it here]]. Your photo brought this to my attention, thanks. Apparently I thought the page was fine for whatever reason until I saw that screenshot, heh. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 04:18, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Strong bad Emails is on air? ==
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what strong bad's email released in 2011?
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:Do you mean "What Sbemails were ''released'' in 2011?"
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:Well, Actually...none. The last sbemail made ([[videography]]) was
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:released in 2009.  --[[Special:Contributions/206.116.143.157|206.116.143.157]] 01:57, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
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== Happy Easter? ==
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Which Sbemail was the first one to have an easter egg? --{{User:ToaJuaraevo01/sig1}} 14:38, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
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duck pond. --[[User:JohnnyLurg|JohnnyLurg]] 15:34, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
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:Technically, the link to email Strong Sad in [[depressio]] counts as an Easter egg. It says on that email's page that it is the first email to have an Easter egg. But [[duck pond]] is the first one where the content is contained in the same window as the rest of the email. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 16:57, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
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== Unexplained Strong Bad Emails? ==
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Hey guys, I was just thinking about a page that we might want to create. I've never created a page before, though, so I kinda want to get approval from some other peoples before I make it.
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So in some toons/sbemails, there are times when you see one of Strong Bad's computers in the background with random text on it, seemingly Strong Bad checking another email, and it's never explained. This has happened in [[the paper]] three times, a few times in [[personal favorites]], once in [[no loafing]], once in [[The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw]], and, if this counts, in [[2 emails]]. Anybody know what I'm talking about?
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I could be wrong, but I feel like it's happened more times than this as well, and it merits a wiki page. Can anybody think of any other times this has happened, and/or what the page should be called? If people agree that this page should exist, I'd be more than happy to write it. Thanks! {{User:SRMX12/sig}} 19:11, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
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:Yeah, I think that would be a good page. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 03:19, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
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::Perhaps this would be better with a larger scope? There are other times that unexplained stuff goes on in the background, like, i forget exactly when, but a few times the cheat will go by wearing a costume or carrying something completely unrelated to the email with no explanation. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 09:33, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
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:::Thanks, guys, I'm glad I'm getting positive feedback. DeFender1031, might you be referring to that one time in [[diorama]] when The Cheat walks by carrying the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]]? If so, that was in reference to Strong Bad commenting on how hard it was to cheat nowadays. If that's not what you're talking about, I'll gladly consider your idea if you can give specific examples.
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:::So, if we make this page, what about the name? Unexplained Strong Bad Emails? Background Strong Bad Emails? Other Strong Bad Emails? Ideas, anyone? {{User:SRMX12/sig}} 16:37, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
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::::Well, The Cheat wears a random costume in [[anything]]. He was probably talking 'bout that. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:17, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
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:::::Those are both good examples, but if I'm not mistaken, it happens more than just those times. I don't have time right now to look though. Also, what does The Cheat carrying the Lappy have anything to do with how hard it is to cheat? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 09:11, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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::::::Something like Unexplained Emails or Background Emails would be good. I think we should makes the page. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 00:07, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
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== Email Strong Bad ==
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What happens if you email Strong Bad at: strongbad@homestarrunner.com is this still active? If now, how else can people contact the Chaps, apart from Twitter?
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:Nothing happens, really. Your email is sent and Strong Bad doesn't answer it... unless by some miracle he decides to do another sbemail sometime. As for contact, I'm not sure, but I think Twitter is one of the only ways, since they's taken down they's own email address. Oh, please sign your talk posts (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). {{User:SRMX12/sig}} 16:50, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
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== sbemail206 ==
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Sbemail 206 is not a Compe email. Sadly I don't know what to do with it. {{User:The thing/sig}} 04:34, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
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:We're leaving it in the Compé era for the time being because the because the email menu on the site still features the Compé. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:57, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
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== Lappier Era ==
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How are we going to handle categorizing the new sbemails? We still have [[sbemail206]] and [[too cool]] under the "[[Compé]] Era" section, even though the latter is unquestionably a [[Lappier]] Era email. The problem, of course, is that the sbemail menu is still Compé-themed. But we shouldn't keep sticking sbemails in a misleadingly-named section until The Brothers Chaps decide to update their menu. Is there a temporary solution we could use until then? {{User:SRMX12/sig}} 17:54, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
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:I think there should be a "Lappier Era" section, and maybe a note pointing out that it still uses the Compé menu. It makes more sense than including Lappier emails in the Compé section. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 18:54, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
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== Not Quite Strong Bad Email List ==
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A little while ago, I {{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&diff=783935&oldid=783934 changed the list}} to use &mdash; em dashes instead of <small>(tiny text in parentheses)</small>. Not only does it look much better (in my opinion), but it's also more consistent with other lists on the wiki. However, it was reverted because it didn't have as much of a "feel" to it. But I don't think that's necessarily a good thing. How should this list be formatted? {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 19:59, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
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:Anyone else have an opinion? The em dashes look clean and consistent, and the tiny text looks aesthetically displeasing. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 23:36, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
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: i dunno, the tiny text looks nice to me, with text being the same size it looks a bit cluttered {{User:Timmodonuts/sig}} 15:37, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
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::I'm for the em dash list. The current style doesn't match any other list on the wiki that I'm aware of, and I think changing text size in-line decreases readability. (What does "has a feel to it" mean anyway?) {{User:Lira/sig}} 19:39, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
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:::I agree that the full size text seems very cluttered and hard to read.  Perhaps there’s a different way to present the information? -[[Special:Contributions/166.170.0.121|166.170.0.121]] 22:43, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
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::::That's weird. For me it's the opposite; the full size text is pleasant and readable, while the small text looks cluttered and arbitrary. Maybe we could make it a table, with one column for the email number, one for the title, and one for the description. That way, we can keep the full size text, with borders between each item so it isn't as cluttered. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 23:21, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
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::::: I am down for tables, I love tables, they make it much easier to digest the information! {{User:Timmodonuts/sig}} 16:08, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
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::::::Not so into the table idea. That just sounds unnecessarily bulky and a weird format for the information. Maybe I just need to see a preview, but I still like the standard list with plain text. {{User:Lira/sig}} 20:58, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
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:::::::I don't understand the desire to table everything. I think a table is best applied in situations when paired with an image or other critical data, such as dates. If it's just an example with an explanation, an ordinary list should suffice. -- [[Special:Contributions/68.37.43.131|68.37.43.131]] 03:10, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
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::::::::Yeah, I mostly agree. I only suggested it because it seemed like a good way to include full size text without some people finding it cluttered. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 05:40, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
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:::::::::The thing is it's no more cluttered than any other list of information on the wiki. If the style is cramping people's style, that should be a larger question for another talk page. Myself, I have no trouble reading it. {{User:Lira/sig}} 16:13, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
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::::::::::Most other places in the wiki don’t have long sentence descriptions within this kind of list. -[[Special:Contributions/166.137.90.18|166.137.90.18]] 18:29, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
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:::::::::::No? What about [[Homestar Runner and Strong Bad's Relationship|character relationships]]? What about [[Style|running gags]] and [[Doughnuts|item pages]]? How is this different? {{User:Lira/sig}} 19:08, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
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So far, it seems there are 3 votes for em dashes, 1 votes for parentheses, 1 vote for tables, and 1 vote for an alternative solution. That's probably the closest we'll get to a consensus, so I've made the changes. I'm putting my reasoning here in place of an edit summary:<br>
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The wiki's font size is intended to be read comfortably, so this list should stick to that. Like Lira said, if the text looks cluttered, that's a problem with the wiki rather than this list, so the discussion should be moved elsewhere. Every list on the wiki is formatted the same way, and no one has ever complained of their clutteredness before, to my knowledge. This list is no different in content, and that should be reflected in its appearance. Additionally, I think the consistent size looks cleaner and less arbitrary, and the em dash creates a neat separation between title and description. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 21:26, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
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== {reading} ==
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Some emails have ''{reading}'' (or some variant) before the email, and some don't. Should we remove them from those emails, or add them to the rest? Or even leave them as is? {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 02:33, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
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:For the discussion purposes, when present [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=dragon&diff=next&oldid=784857 it looks like this].
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:Honestly, I'd be in favour of removing such instances. This mostly seems to be present in some older transcripts. I think just the presence of the email template is shorthand for him reading it out loud. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:31, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
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::I am on the fence whether or not we should remove such instances.  Although 99% of email entries are read, sometimes they just show up on the screen. Also, "training" the new reader into expecting "hey this block will be read out loud" the first few emails (assuming they somehow went through each email sequentially) wouldn't be a bad thing.  And, in a detailed wiki like this, it might not hurt to have the "reading" portion in every email (although it should look sleeker).  Now, my own comment ago kind of thwarted an idea I had, and that was: add the "Reading" portion to the email templates or block quotes.  However, since this isn't going to be used 100% of the time, it's probably counter productive (instead a template that adds the notice would probably be better -- that is if we keep the notices at all.) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 12:37, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
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:::Since I haven't given my opinion yet, I don't think the notices are necessary. The email box is kind of a continuation of Strong Bad's dialogue, and in cases where it isn't read aloud, the transcript usually states ''{The following email can be seen:}'' or something similar. Going straight from the email song to the email makes for a smoother transition.
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:::We don't necessarily have to edit every email page right away, since that would be a huge undertaking. But it would be nice to reach a consensus, just so the notices can be added or removed during unrelated edits, if that makes sense. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 23:36, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
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== Strong Bad Email Menu ==
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Two points to make
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1. Why did we never have an article for the Strong Bad Email menus in general when the Toon Time and the speciality sbemail ones have a page?
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2. The new menu works completely differently and will probably need it's won page or subsection. Still trying figurue out if there's a pattern to Strong Bad's comments on the emails. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 02:02, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
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:Yeah, I was just wondering that myself. We need to create [[Strong Bad Email Menu]], stat! (Also, I notice you've been adding descriptions to each email's page. I'd suggest holding off on that for now. It's a big project that needs consensus for how it's going to be implemented.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 02:43, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
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::Discussion about descriptions continues at [[HRWiki:Projects#Toon Descriptions|HRWiki:Projects → Toon Descriptions]]
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== anyone like tge sbemaiil homsar? ==
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anyone? no? ok...
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==Sbemail209 release date==
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March 25th, 2022 --[[User:Jeffjman|J∃ffJ]][[User_talk:Jeffjman|Man]][[File:jeffjsigchrismas.png|23px]] 17:13, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
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:I wouldn’t get my hopes up. I don’t think we’re gonna see it for quite a while. And is there any source for that date or are you just making it up? [[User:TheOneAndOnlyDanky|TheOneAndOnlyDanky]] 18:27, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
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::Mostly making it up, but hey, it might be out on either then OR april fools day, since they've been doing it every 4 years now. --[[User:Jeffjman|J∃ffJ]][[User_talk:Jeffjman|Man]][[File:jeffjsigchrismas.png|23px]] 11:18, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
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== sbemail templates ==
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I had an idea a while ago. What if instead of putting a whole blockquote thingy for an email, say [[strong badathlon]], instead we made a template for the email. I tried it out and it works.
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The template could be:
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<nowiki>{{sbemail165}}</nowiki>
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and it would look like:
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<blockquote class="lappy email">
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<div>subject: the cheat</div>
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Strong bad,<br>
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For a long time i've been wondering.... How far can you<br>
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throw the cheat?  If you don't want to do that, could you<br>
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beat the crud out of homestar for no reason?<br>
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<br>
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Lewis Rudkin<br>
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Essex, England.
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</blockquote>
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What do you guys think? Cool idea? Stupid idea? I have made more templates over on my [[User:HoveringSombrero/Sandbox|sandbox]]. - [[User:HoveringSombrero|HoveringSombrero]] ([[User talk:HoveringSombrero|talk]]) [[File:Shoulder shoomps.png|23px]]
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:In theory, the idea isn't bad: I've thought of making a template with all the block quotes.  But making 200 different templates is too tedious and problematic to maintain.  Better to have a single template that has all the quotes in one place, selectable by a switch statement.  That way you can just programmatically pass the email number as a variable (for example <code><nowiki>{{sbemailTemplate|165}}</nowiki></code>; name pending) and maintain the code in a single location.  The downside would be that of performance as template limits might be reached if all 200 emails are included in a single page.  Either way, most likely the already-created templates will be deleted. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:23, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
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<blockquote class="lappy email">
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Dear Homestar Runner Wiki,<br>
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<br>
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I was wondering why someone was creating hundreds of templates for individual emails that in practice, would only be used once. It seems more logical to have a
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single template with spaces that can be customized so it can be used many
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times in many different ways, when the needs arise.<br>
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<br>
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Also, a customizable template would also provide the opportunity for me to
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play around with it and write my own hilarious Strong Bad Emails whenever the
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mood strikes me.<br>
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[[Crapfully yours|With excrement]],<br>
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-- [[Special:Contributions/68.37.43.131|68.37.43.131]] 23:19, 7 January 2023 (UTC)</blockquote>
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::I would only approve of this if they were combined into one template as Stux suggested, and even then I don't think it's necessary. Either way, I think the created templates should be deleted. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}} 05:22, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
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:::These templates don't do anything except move one instance of code off the page where it appears. I don't see any benefit to this. Templates are useful for formatting, which these don't help with, or repetition, which I'd do a different way if we really thought we needed. (Given that sbemails aren't updating, I also don't think we currently need any formatting templates.) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:31, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Current revision as of 16:28, 23 January 2023

Strong Bad Email Talk: Current | Messages 1-20 | Messages 21-33 | Messages 34-50 | Messages 51-75 | Messages 76-100 | Messages 101-120

Ding! Strong Bad Email is a featured article, which means it showcases an important part of the Homestar Runner body of work and/or highlights the fine work of this wiki. We also might just think it's cool. If you see a way this page can be updated or improved without compromising previous work, feel free to contribute.
Checklist for new Strong Bad Email: [edit]

Contents

[edit] Overlooked

What is the most overlooked Sbemail? Jc iindyysgvxc 06:19, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

RickTommy - What do you mean? African or European Sbemail? The Knights Who Say Ni 19:49, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Era=mrehh. Emails=mrEEEEEEEh!

We should just change the Era to Emails! It's a more slicker, catchier name for the email menus. POM Z 15:18, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't think that would be a good name. just think of it... Emails: Mreh. SBemails, mrEEEEEEh! besides, what kind of emails? SBEMAILS!! don't you see? Jibblejibblejibble 23:34, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
This is a good idea. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 03:52, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Sbemail shortage

Why have there been so few Sbemails lately? Jc iindyysgvxc 23:18, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

There have been more since June than there were between September and June. Anyway, while I can't say for sure, I personally believe the Chaps have decided to focus on things other than sbemails. And this question is better suited for the forum. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 00:35, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Corpy NT6 Section

I think the sbemail imagination counts as a Lappy email, and therefore, we should remove the Corpy NT6 section and put imagination on the Lappy section! Who's with me? User:MICGAGUH

Not me. The Lappy's destroyed, so it's not a Lappy email. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 17:29, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
First of all, the email is called "imaginary", not "imagination". Secondly, there was already a discussion on this and we decided what we decided. Thirdly, if it DOES have to be said again, then the lappy's been destroyed and the Compé wasn't purchased yet, so the way we have it now is good and smart. That's all. — Defender1031*Talk 18:46, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
To be fair, the previous discussion doesn't have a clear consensus. -132.183.140.194 18:49, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
And to clarify... there's no Lappy and Compé is not around yet. To my mind, imaginary should remain exactly where it is. wbwolf (t | ed) 00:40, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Possible certain day for email milestones

Has anyone ever noticed that every single email milestone has been on a Tuesday rather than the traditional Monday? Like, 50 emails, flashback, rock opera, alternate universe and email thunder. They've all been on Tuesdays. What's up with that? CrabAttack1999 21:46, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

I would theorise that making a milestone email takes more effort than an ordinary one, especially given the length of the most recent ones. Thus, they take longer to do, and get put out a day later. --DorianGray 21:49, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
(me, quoting a sbemail):You may be half-right... CrabAttack1999 20:35, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] No new sbemail in over...6 Weeks?!

Why haven't made one in 6 weeks? I hope he's not re-e-tired. What's the delay? CrabAttack1999 20:36, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, TBC said they aren't going to be making those Sbemails as often, so to allow Homestar to take the spotlight, or at least get away from doing one every week. Plus, Halloween just happened, and Thanksgiving is coming. They are either too preoccupied with the holidays or making a toon as we speak. Just stay calm and a new toon will come soon.--Jellote wuz here 20:47, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
He can't type any more because he has human hands now. Okay, really, this is not the longest sbemail break, it's not the first, and it's not worth worrying about. Also, this is not a forum (though we have one). --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 21:06, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Jay, I just wanted to say I enjoyed your response very much (the first sentence). -132.183.140.236 21:15, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
That is because the new baby was born. Duh! They need to care for the baby through it's first weeks and most importantly help Jackie Chapman with the little tyke! Jibblejibblejibble 23:30, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
I hope they come out with a 'toon or SBemail for Decemberween!

[edit] Old Menu Files Still Active

Would it be worth it to actually mention in either the Strong Bad Email Menus or Fun Facts section that the links to the Lappy and Corpy menus still feature the most recent (Compé-era) updates, while the other menus still on the H*R site only go up to the last e-mail posted on them?

Naturally, the explanation is that these Flash files still access the current list, while the other menus are effectively closed files. It's not strictly necessary to put it up there, but I at least find it interesting. kyojikasshu 21:04, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Calculated Update Frequency

In a fit of nerdular nerdulance, I decided to calculate the update frequency for the different sbemail eras. It might be worth noting to show how TBC have gradually moved away from the "updates every Monday" phase.

First up, the three primary (and now completed) eras:

Note that the Tandy era begins with the first sbemail listed with a definitive date of posting, with both some kinda robot and homsar listed as being posted "on or before September 13, 2001". Assuming a posting of some kinda robot no earlier than August 27, the following would be the high end average figure:

For the Lappy era, I listed the regular update period through sbemail 200. If we factor in the more than nine month break before hremail3184, the numbers are skewed thusly:

Since the Corpy transition consists of only one sbemail, frequency of Corpy sbemails is a non-factor.

Finally, you have the Compé era, which has been stalled due to the current baby hiatus. We can only go by the date of the most recent update, which at this point is videography (October 5).

Alternatively, if we were to consider the "modern era", the resumption of sbemails from hremail3814 on, as a separate update period, we'd get a different figure:

  • Modern era (transition from Lappy to Compé: hremail3184 - videography) - 1 sbemail / 2.77 weeks (19.4 days)

Food for thought... obviously, it would need some consensus before this info would be posted. (And, yes, I was pretty bored today.) kyojikasshu 21:59, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

This would be something for Strong Bad Email Statistics. -- Tom 23:14, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Silly me, I didn't even see the Statistics page. And it's already covered. My bad. kyojikasshu 15:36, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Is sbemail206 ever coming out? It's been 4 months and counting.

Funny, around this time last year, people were saying the same about sbemail 201. Heimstern Läufer 07:08, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
There was a baby in the family recently, shortly following the Halloween toon. I'm not at all surprised that the updates have been scarce. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 08:37, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
I concur with Jay, here, folks! I am not at all surprised, but I am getting impatient. How bad of me. Just be patient peoples, and the next SBemail will come, i assure you.Jibblejibblejibble 17:39, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Okay, I think I know why sbemail206 is not coming. In DTotM, when Strong Bad's gloves turn into hands, the Compe gets knocked away. This means the Compe is most likely broken. Or (this may sound ridiculous, but I think it's also possible) they want our article on the basics to stay with the lowest page hits. I mean, why should the basics have the lowest page hits if Strong Bad himself claimed it was his favourite e-mail? RickTommy 22:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Ummm...
You're right, this IS the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. I was content to just ignore it, but i'm concerned that if no one says anything, you'll continue to make unnecessary edits such as "Ummm...". So i'm saying it. This is all speculation, and baseless speculation at that. Did Homestar never appear again outside of the painintg after Jibblies 2? Did Homsar stay dead after homsar? Did the tandy and compy stay dead? These types of continuity just don't happen in the HR universe in general. Further, since this has nothing to do with article content, it doesn't belong here anyway, whether it's a good theory or not. — Defender1031*Talk 09:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Updated list? Or just the XML?

If you have recently checked the Corpy NT6 menu, you will notice that the post-Corpy era emails are also there. Is it an actual TBC update, or is the Corpy reading the Sbemail list from an XML file? --Darkangel Get offa me! 07:23, 11 February 2010 (UTC) (Holy crap, since when have I stopped using that picture?)

EDIT: I just noticed that the Lappy menu does so too. Both menus have no animations whatsoever.
Yeah, ever since random.bat came out, the menus have read from rando.xml... so that includes the Lappy and Corpy menus. --phlip TC 09:28, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Compé Era Box Background is broke...

Can someone fix it? Firefox shows just black with StroBro's head. ColdReactive 05:07, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Inline background images are disabled until the next upgrade. I put a temporary workaround in Common.css. — It's dot com 05:43, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Still shot

Which email is this shot from? RickTommy (edits) 06:29, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

That's from when you hit "pause" on the later sbemail DVDs. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 08:29, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Though if anything, i'd say it's probably from pizzaz. StrongAwesome 11:13, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
The background is the same as in pizzaz, but that exact image never occurs in that email. Heimstern Läufer 11:48, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Can't remember!

What is the name of the email where Strong Bad makes loud and flashy shoes to impress the ladies, but they make the power go out. Strong Mad, The Cheat, Strong Sad, and Homestar Runner watch a guy's head(I forgot his name) taped to a TV. And Strong Bad asks them to help send emails without electricity. Then he tapes a paper with writing of the email covering the actaul screen and he pretends to type, Strong Sad holds a blank piece of paper, covering up the words, and uncovers the letters Strong Bad "types" and Strong Maad holds The Cheat who has the "Click here to email Strong Bad" paper, and the wires are tied to Homestar. Then if you wait a bit Homestar and Strong Sad suddenly sing about pee.

That would be extra plug. RickTommy (edits) 23:49, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Forhorglingrads

What is the email that is the start of "Fahoobigahs(sp)"? This is very important to me for it was the start of my getting hooked on SB Emails. --- Mikelj84606 ---

Say it with a flourish: "fhqwhgads." The email you're looking for is i love you. — It's dot com 20:32, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Everything is not fine, something is ruined

I don't know if this is just a glitch on my system or what, but the sbemail list is looking like this. PowerFile:Homestar Kamikaze Green Favicon.pngPie 03:46, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

This is an effect of a recent server change. We're already talking about it here. Your photo brought this to my attention, thanks. Apparently I thought the page was fine for whatever reason until I saw that screenshot, heh. Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 04:18, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Strong bad Emails is on air?

what strong bad's email released in 2011?

Do you mean "What Sbemails were released in 2011?"
Well, Actually...none. The last sbemail made (videography) was
released in 2009. --206.116.143.157 01:57, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Easter?

Which Sbemail was the first one to have an easter egg? --ToaJuaraevo01 File:Homsar-in-motion.gif 14:38, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

duck pond. --JohnnyLurg 15:34, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Technically, the link to email Strong Sad in depressio counts as an Easter egg. It says on that email's page that it is the first email to have an Easter egg. But duck pond is the first one where the content is contained in the same window as the rest of the email. The Knights Who Say Ni 16:57, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

[edit] Unexplained Strong Bad Emails?

Hey guys, I was just thinking about a page that we might want to create. I've never created a page before, though, so I kinda want to get approval from some other peoples before I make it.

So in some toons/sbemails, there are times when you see one of Strong Bad's computers in the background with random text on it, seemingly Strong Bad checking another email, and it's never explained. This has happened in the paper three times, a few times in personal favorites, once in no loafing, once in The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw, and, if this counts, in 2 emails. Anybody know what I'm talking about?

I could be wrong, but I feel like it's happened more times than this as well, and it merits a wiki page. Can anybody think of any other times this has happened, and/or what the page should be called? If people agree that this page should exist, I'd be more than happy to write it. Thanks! Lira (talk) 19:11, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that would be a good page. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 03:19, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps this would be better with a larger scope? There are other times that unexplained stuff goes on in the background, like, i forget exactly when, but a few times the cheat will go by wearing a costume or carrying something completely unrelated to the email with no explanation. — Defender1031*Talk 09:33, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, guys, I'm glad I'm getting positive feedback. DeFender1031, might you be referring to that one time in diorama when The Cheat walks by carrying the Lappy? If so, that was in reference to Strong Bad commenting on how hard it was to cheat nowadays. If that's not what you're talking about, I'll gladly consider your idea if you can give specific examples.
So, if we make this page, what about the name? Unexplained Strong Bad Emails? Background Strong Bad Emails? Other Strong Bad Emails? Ideas, anyone? Lira (talk) 16:37, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Well, The Cheat wears a random costume in anything. He was probably talking 'bout that. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 01:17, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
Those are both good examples, but if I'm not mistaken, it happens more than just those times. I don't have time right now to look though. Also, what does The Cheat carrying the Lappy have anything to do with how hard it is to cheat? — Defender1031*Talk 09:11, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
Something like Unexplained Emails or Background Emails would be good. I think we should makes the page. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 00:07, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Email Strong Bad

What happens if you email Strong Bad at: strongbad@homestarrunner.com is this still active? If now, how else can people contact the Chaps, apart from Twitter?

Nothing happens, really. Your email is sent and Strong Bad doesn't answer it... unless by some miracle he decides to do another sbemail sometime. As for contact, I'm not sure, but I think Twitter is one of the only ways, since they's taken down they's own email address. Oh, please sign your talk posts (~~~~). Lira (talk) 16:50, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

[edit] sbemail206

Sbemail 206 is not a Compe email. Sadly I don't know what to do with it. TheThin 04:34, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

We're leaving it in the Compé era for the time being because the because the email menu on the site still features the Compé. — It's dot com 15:57, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

[edit] Lappier Era

How are we going to handle categorizing the new sbemails? We still have sbemail206 and too cool under the "Compé Era" section, even though the latter is unquestionably a Lappier Era email. The problem, of course, is that the sbemail menu is still Compé-themed. But we shouldn't keep sticking sbemails in a misleadingly-named section until The Brothers Chaps decide to update their menu. Is there a temporary solution we could use until then? Lira (talk) 17:54, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

I think there should be a "Lappier Era" section, and maybe a note pointing out that it still uses the Compé menu. It makes more sense than including Lappier emails in the Compé section. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 18:54, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

[edit] Not Quite Strong Bad Email List

A little while ago, I changed the list to use — em dashes instead of (tiny text in parentheses). Not only does it look much better (in my opinion), but it's also more consistent with other lists on the wiki. However, it was reverted because it didn't have as much of a "feel" to it. But I don't think that's necessarily a good thing. How should this list be formatted? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 19:59, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Anyone else have an opinion? The em dashes look clean and consistent, and the tiny text looks aesthetically displeasing. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:36, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
i dunno, the tiny text looks nice to me, with text being the same size it looks a bit cluttered — donuts-icon.pngtimmodonuts (T/C) 15:37, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
I'm for the em dash list. The current style doesn't match any other list on the wiki that I'm aware of, and I think changing text size in-line decreases readability. (What does "has a feel to it" mean anyway?) Lira (talk) 19:39, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
I agree that the full size text seems very cluttered and hard to read. Perhaps there’s a different way to present the information? -166.170.0.121 22:43, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
That's weird. For me it's the opposite; the full size text is pleasant and readable, while the small text looks cluttered and arbitrary. Maybe we could make it a table, with one column for the email number, one for the title, and one for the description. That way, we can keep the full size text, with borders between each item so it isn't as cluttered. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:21, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
I am down for tables, I love tables, they make it much easier to digest the information! — donuts-icon.pngtimmodonuts (T/C) 16:08, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Not so into the table idea. That just sounds unnecessarily bulky and a weird format for the information. Maybe I just need to see a preview, but I still like the standard list with plain text. Lira (talk) 20:58, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
I don't understand the desire to table everything. I think a table is best applied in situations when paired with an image or other critical data, such as dates. If it's just an example with an explanation, an ordinary list should suffice. -- 68.37.43.131 03:10, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, I mostly agree. I only suggested it because it seemed like a good way to include full size text without some people finding it cluttered. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 05:40, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
The thing is it's no more cluttered than any other list of information on the wiki. If the style is cramping people's style, that should be a larger question for another talk page. Myself, I have no trouble reading it. Lira (talk) 16:13, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
Most other places in the wiki don’t have long sentence descriptions within this kind of list. -166.137.90.18 18:29, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
No? What about character relationships? What about running gags and item pages? How is this different? Lira (talk) 19:08, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

So far, it seems there are 3 votes for em dashes, 1 votes for parentheses, 1 vote for tables, and 1 vote for an alternative solution. That's probably the closest we'll get to a consensus, so I've made the changes. I'm putting my reasoning here in place of an edit summary:
The wiki's font size is intended to be read comfortably, so this list should stick to that. Like Lira said, if the text looks cluttered, that's a problem with the wiki rather than this list, so the discussion should be moved elsewhere. Every list on the wiki is formatted the same way, and no one has ever complained of their clutteredness before, to my knowledge. This list is no different in content, and that should be reflected in its appearance. Additionally, I think the consistent size looks cleaner and less arbitrary, and the em dash creates a neat separation between title and description. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 21:26, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

[edit] {reading}

Some emails have {reading} (or some variant) before the email, and some don't. Should we remove them from those emails, or add them to the rest? Or even leave them as is? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 02:33, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

For the discussion purposes, when present it looks like this.
Honestly, I'd be in favour of removing such instances. This mostly seems to be present in some older transcripts. I think just the presence of the email template is shorthand for him reading it out loud. --DorianGray 05:31, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
I am on the fence whether or not we should remove such instances. Although 99% of email entries are read, sometimes they just show up on the screen. Also, "training" the new reader into expecting "hey this block will be read out loud" the first few emails (assuming they somehow went through each email sequentially) wouldn't be a bad thing. And, in a detailed wiki like this, it might not hurt to have the "reading" portion in every email (although it should look sleeker). Now, my own comment ago kind of thwarted an idea I had, and that was: add the "Reading" portion to the email templates or block quotes. However, since this isn't going to be used 100% of the time, it's probably counter productive (instead a template that adds the notice would probably be better -- that is if we keep the notices at all.) --Stux 12:37, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Since I haven't given my opinion yet, I don't think the notices are necessary. The email box is kind of a continuation of Strong Bad's dialogue, and in cases where it isn't read aloud, the transcript usually states {The following email can be seen:} or something similar. Going straight from the email song to the email makes for a smoother transition.
We don't necessarily have to edit every email page right away, since that would be a huge undertaking. But it would be nice to reach a consensus, just so the notices can be added or removed during unrelated edits, if that makes sense. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:36, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

[edit] Strong Bad Email Menu

Two points to make 1. Why did we never have an article for the Strong Bad Email menus in general when the Toon Time and the speciality sbemail ones have a page? 2. The new menu works completely differently and will probably need it's won page or subsection. Still trying figurue out if there's a pattern to Strong Bad's comments on the emails. Guybrush20X6 02:02, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I was just wondering that myself. We need to create Strong Bad Email Menu, stat! (Also, I notice you've been adding descriptions to each email's page. I'd suggest holding off on that for now. It's a big project that needs consensus for how it's going to be implemented.) Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 02:43, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Discussion about descriptions continues at HRWiki:Projects → Toon Descriptions

[edit] anyone like tge sbemaiil homsar?

anyone? no? ok...

[edit] Sbemail209 release date

March 25th, 2022 --J∃ffJMan 17:13, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

I wouldn’t get my hopes up. I don’t think we’re gonna see it for quite a while. And is there any source for that date or are you just making it up? TheOneAndOnlyDanky 18:27, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
Mostly making it up, but hey, it might be out on either then OR april fools day, since they've been doing it every 4 years now. --J∃ffJMan 11:18, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

[edit] sbemail templates

I had an idea a while ago. What if instead of putting a whole blockquote thingy for an email, say strong badathlon, instead we made a template for the email. I tried it out and it works.

The template could be: {{sbemail165}} and it would look like:

What do you guys think? Cool idea? Stupid idea? I have made more templates over on my sandbox. - HoveringSombrero (talk)

In theory, the idea isn't bad: I've thought of making a template with all the block quotes. But making 200 different templates is too tedious and problematic to maintain. Better to have a single template that has all the quotes in one place, selectable by a switch statement. That way you can just programmatically pass the email number as a variable (for example {{sbemailTemplate|165}}; name pending) and maintain the code in a single location. The downside would be that of performance as template limits might be reached if all 200 emails are included in a single page. Either way, most likely the already-created templates will be deleted. --Stux 20:23, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
I would only approve of this if they were combined into one template as Stux suggested, and even then I don't think it's necessary. Either way, I think the created templates should be deleted. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 05:22, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
These templates don't do anything except move one instance of code off the page where it appears. I don't see any benefit to this. Templates are useful for formatting, which these don't help with, or repetition, which I'd do a different way if we really thought we needed. (Given that sbemails aren't updating, I also don't think we currently need any formatting templates.) — It's dot com 01:31, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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