Talk:Strong Bad and Strong Sad's Relationship

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Strong Bad hurting or insulting Strong Sad seems like such a generic and common thing that I really don't find worthy of a page. Two cents? —FireBird|Talk 02:22, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree. Hurting Strong Sad is Strong Bad's bread and butter. Or at least his crackers and mustard. With a page like this, we might as well make one about Coach Z's accent or something. I say delete it. --DorianGray
You know why I made this page? Because when the wiki was down I tried to think of all the times something in particular has happaned. Maybe something slipped my eye, like G. Then I thought to myself "Strong Bad hurts Strong Sad almost every other toon! How about I make a page about it!" I know that Strong Bad hurts other characters too, but he likes to annoy Strong Sad in particular, so it is special. And those were my two cents. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 02:45, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Maybe it should be treated more like a list or a log instead of an explanation and exemplification of a running gag. Would that soften anybody's hearts? —BazookaJoe 02:51, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I kind of like this page. We have other lists of things that happen a lot (in running gags). Why not this? I think it's kind of funny. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 02:24, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I like it too. Besides, unlimited space can fit on the wiki, almost, so why delete it? — talk Bubsty edits
I don't know if this should be a running gag, but it should be something. Maybe it should me mereged with strong sad or strong bad. Maybe with both! I don't know, but I think we should keep the content--bkmlb 03:43, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)
This is isn't an inside joke. Lots of people are mean to their younger siblings, and Strong Bad is an overall mean person. Swimma Dan 13:08, 12 Aug 2005 (EST)
Strong Bad husting Strong Sad is a major aspect of H*R, particularly the sbemails. It is the foundation of their relationship. Many-a-time The Brothers Chaps have used this as a joke. It also leads to explain Strong Sad's very deteriorated ego. In turn, it explains Strong Sad's actions, style of speech, charactar, etc. Finally, Strong Bad has hurt Strong Sad so many times that it's hard to keep track of all of them. I think it's very thoughtful of the person who took time out of their day to organize this myriad of precious moments (if I may so call them). In closing: I beg of you, do not let this page be deleted. Whether it is merged with another pae, or preserved to shine in it's own glory, it does not matter; what does matter is that it be saved from such a terrible fate.
We've listed all the ways the TGS girls have met their demise. Why not do something similar with Strong Sad? -- tomstiff 18:25, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Because Strong Sad's injuries are so commonplace and ordinary, really. He's never been Twelve-Sided Die'd, for example. In my opinion, the TGS deaths are much more interesting. --DorianGray
I wouldn't mind keeping this page. I do however think it may be helpful for those against it if the page was completed to include the toons and shorts etc. to give more of a feel to what the page will be like. small_logo.pngUsername-talk 18:40, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I will complete the page when I'll have to time for it. And thanks to the guy who wrote that long repley up there. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 23:49, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Added the toons. If you find more, please add. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 16:32, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Images

Try not to have too many images on this page. It's not friendly for people with dail-up connections. I'm thinking we delete some of these. —BazookaJoe 01:51, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I agree, but for a different reason. Some of these are just Strong Sad being hurt, but they don't really fit the theme of the page. I'm gonna remove a couple. See what you think and put back or take away more as you see fit. — It's dot com 01:55, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I was putting up images of the things that weren't just references. This is Strong Bad Hurting Strong Sad, not the Cheat or Strong Mad.--minibaseball.png Bkmlb(talk to me·stuff I did) 02:03, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Nearly all of these images need to be redone to comply with Standards (size of image should not exceed 100 kilobytes). I can upload optimized versions for most of the images on this page, but that does take quite a bit of time and I'm rather short of it at the moment. —THE PAPER PREEEOW 21:35, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)
UPDATE: Images [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7] have all been refactored. Every image except #3 is now under 100KB of file size. —THE PAPER PREEEOW 17:35, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Running Gag?

I think that this is also concidered a running gag. It has to be! Anyone agree? If anyone is not going to disagree, I will add it into the catagory.--Martin925 00:38, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Kicking The Cheat is a running gag, why not this? Go for it... - Camalex(talk) 04:35, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Thanks!--Martin925 04:57, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Hang on, now. Tell me if you think I'm wrong, but in the first thread on this page, it seems like the consensus is that this is an interesting list, but the content of the page is too common and the instances are too diverse to really qualify as a running gag. — It's dot com 05:03, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
I see what you mean, but the definition of a running gag states that it is a repitition, making it halrious to repeat over and over again. But it's something that can be decided over time. Not a big deal.--Martin925 05:09, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Meh, I have three younger brothers myself, so I know it's just a given that older siblings torment their younger siblings. I don't see it as a running gag, I see it as just being the way it is. It's universal. It's part of their characters. It would be like pointing out every time Homestar is a little dim or Marzipan acts like a hippie. (By the way, my brothers and I are friends now that we're grown, in case anyone wondered.) — It's dot com 05:20, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm gonna say it's not a running gag so much as part of having a younger brother. small_logo.pngUsername-talk 05:27, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
I say running gag. My sister never hurts me, and I never hurt my sister. And my friends brother never hurts him either. — talk Bubsty edits 02:47, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
It's a personality trait, not a running gag. You know, like Strong Sad being depressing, Bubs being a scammer, and Homestar having a loose grip on reality. - Joshua

Order in the court

These are in neither chronological nor alphabetical order. Which should it be? —AbdiViklas 04:35, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Oh, I can alphabetise 'em real quick, if you like. Just so you can see how it'd look. I'm real good at that. --DorianGray
That's an improvement, but actually I thin it ought to be chronological. That would entail considerably more work and I'm going to bed in the morning, but if nobody else does it I'll leave myself a note to. —AbdiViklas 05:02, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I agree. Chronological would fit better. I'm much slower at that, so I'll leave it for someone else, be it you or another user. --DorianGray
I am this other user. It was in semi-chronological to begin with when I made this page. I'll revert and complete the order correctly. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 10:16, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
Done Done. But I don't know what to do with Homestar Presents: Presents & The Best Decemberween Ever. Where to put them? Elcool (talk)(contribs) 10:26, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
Maybe put them together, but chronologically from the first occurance? Another words, put them both where you'd put Best Decemberween Ever if it was alone. --DorianGray
Ok. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 18:12, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
Ok, I "thin" we're done. Yay. — talk Bubsty edits 01:41, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

E-Mail

  • What would happen if someone sent an email to Strong Bad about this?? 67.41.213.180 03:23, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
About what? Why he's so cruel to Strong Sad? Someone already has. Shwoo 03:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

New name

I've always hated the name "Strong Bad Hurting Strong Sad". It seems too clunky and long. How 'bout Strong Bad and Strong Sad's Relationship? It matchs the names of the similar articles Homestar Runner and Marzipan's Relationship and Homestar Runner and Strong Bad's Relationship. --Trogga 00:38, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I could live with that new name. It does seem to fit better with the "H*R and Marzipan"'s and "H*R and Strong Bad"'s relationship pages. If this page does get a new name, maybe someone could add in a (rather small) section where the two are seen getting along. kai lyn 00:52, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, me too. Shwoo 01:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
I never thought of that when I made the page. Good call. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 08:19, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Inconsistent Use of Sentences and Phrases

I've noticed that in some sections of this page, phrases are used to describe the situation, whereas in other sections, sentences are used. I propose that we use complete sentences for all of the sections, considering that other pages generally do the same. Yet the only problem I see with using complete sentences is that there would be the problem of starting too many of the statements with "Strong Bad/Sad", so we would have to be mindful of that. What do the rest of you think? ~Garnet Jell-o~ 18:56, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I think if any change is made, it would need to be toward full sentences. But for me, I wonder if it's necessary to make all complete sentences. Some are quite unambiguous as is, I'd advocate clarifying any that aren't through complete sentences. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 19:01, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Great-Grandma

I just thought of something... If Strong Sad REALLY THINKS Strong Bad is his Great-Grandmother, then it wouldn't be revenge, would it? --TotalSpaceshipGirl3 20:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

It'd be karmic revenge. That said, I wouldn't be terribly upset if it was removed from the page. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 20:24, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
I think the smile implies that he's just messing SB. --Trogga 20:29, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
I seriously doubt it. It never occured to me that he's faking.-LordQuackingstick 20:30, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
In any event, the truth was not revealed, so the simplest explanation should be the one we use. And Jay's right that SS not being aware of the dis he's putting on SB is no reason not to call it "revenge". It's unwitting revenge. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 20:32, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
But isn't Strong Sad the smart one? --Trogga 20:36, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Being smart doesn't mean you can't be fooled or mistaken. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 20:37, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Sometimes, though I don't see how that affects this issue. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 20:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Wikitionary defines revenging as resorting to self help to get even with someone. This would imply one has to be aware.-LordQuackingstick 20:42, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Then perhaps the problem is with the title of the section. This clearly is a moment where SS gets some of his own back, even if it cannot be called revenge. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 20:55, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I was the one who had originally added this fact to the list. I'll admit that I first saw this as Strong Sad messing with Strong Bad, but after watching the e-mail again, I definitely see why others wouldn't see that. I won't be upset if this is removed from the list, but maybe the problem is the title of this section. ~Garnet Jell-o~ 22:12, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Class ring

Are we sure he says class ring? When I first heard it, it sounded like brass ring, though last time I looked it sounded like glass. But it seems to me that either one would make more sense than class. --24.255.195.166 17:44, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

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