Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 14

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Ditto

Does Anyone know what a Ditto exam is? Does it refer to the ditto printer schools use? Physicsguymonsterman 11:42, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

I can only assume it is an exam where all the questions are nearly identical to past exams. i.e. a maths exam where they ask the same questions but with differnt numbers. This would not explain the meaning though. In addition to this section of the toon, it should be noted that the text on the "Exam" is in purple, not black. 125.238.9.80 12:10, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Pretty sure it's a reference to the purple-ink copies made by a ditto machine. Ditto machines are often confused with mimeographs. This would be an ultra low-tech contrast to the Scantron computer-read multiple choice test.
I must be old. We used this term to describe an activity sheet that was given to the whole class. Most of the time it was just busy work, but sometimes tests were given from the "teacher's edition" of the textbook for that subject. We called them dittos because they were just mass copies. Of course, I also was a substitute teacher earlier last year, and the middle school kids had no idea what I was talking about when I said "here's a ditto to do", so maybe it's fallen out of common language by now.
Exactly, it's copies of a worksheet (or test) made on a ditto machine, which is what schools had before copiers and printers got so affordable. The process was kind of like silkscreen printing. The ink was pale purplish-blue. It stank of some weird solvent, and when the pages were fresh they were heavy with an alien dampness.

Michelle Branch

The quarterback's song lyrics conceptually reminded me of Michelle Branch's "Everywhere". Does anyone else think that this is plausible? — Defender1031*Talk 12:34, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Two eighty-Sevens?

There seems to be a mistake on the Brothers Chaps part, this Crossover issue is Number 87, but the Hit-Enter-Too-Soon-Man issue is also 87. Is this worth noting?

check goofs, it's already there. — Defender1031*Talk 12:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
This might be worth noting, but I don't think it qualifies as a goof. Couldn't this be entirely intentional on TBC's part? -Telamon 02:37, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I agree with you — I think it might be an intentional joke (like, it's another thing Science Fiction Greg would get up in arms about). Also, I think it's interesting that the repeated issue number is 87. At any rate, I'd much rather see this fact in Remarks than in Goofs. Trey56 03:01, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Floating Time Line

Removed "*If the teens were all thirteen in the first issue, released December of 2002, then this would make them eighteen, making this their "actual" high school graduation." under remarks. I think that TGS, like all homestarrunner.com characters, are, mostly, in a floating time line. (Frazz 14:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC))

I left it in thinking that it was an interesting coincidence, but you're right. Heck, WHF even mentions returning to the school in September. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 14:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps a possible "TGS: The College Years" (SDSpivey 16:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC))

My remark on the age of the teen girls was deleted. My reasoning is this: If they were thirteen in 2002, then they would have been sixteen in 2005 for the sweet-somethingteen birthday party in TGS 10. It seems that, by intention or happenstance, the teen girls are actually following something of a coherent plotline. I think that pointing out the fact that they would be graduating high school is interesting and worth thinking about, if only because it means that the TGS will fail to qualify for the "T" in their title in a scant year. Dissent? — 209.158.39.251 (Talk | contribs) 17:17, 12 May 2008 (UTC) (left unsigned)

I agree that they would be 18. Great Fun fact. it should be Stuff'd Physicsguymonsterman 18:37, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
BTW, there's a flaw in the math. If they were thirteen in 2002, then they'd be NINETEEN now, not eighteen! It's been six years, and 13 + 6 = 19 last I checked. Anyway, note WHF's remark that she'd be returning in September. And note that, if they were eighteen now, What's Her Face got her driver's license at the age of FOURTEEN. They have a flexible timeline and you're just reading too far into it. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 19:00, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Thirteen in December of 2002 means they would be TURNING eighteen in 2007. If their birthdays fall around Fall or Winter as implied by the timing of the somethingteen birthday party, they won't be nineteen until later this year.
Having said that, I notice that the argument could be made that they all turned thirteen sometime between May and December. That still doesn't excuse things like WHF's license at 14. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 19:03, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
We don't really know any of the laws and regulations of FCUSA. This is a case for Litigation Jackson.
I noticed that all our conceptions and guesses are dependant on them moving up a grade each year. It seems to me like a reasonable answer is that they all failed a couple grades. SuperfieldCreditUnion
We are arare this is all bald speculation? That Strong Bad is drawing them and as such he can choose to keep them timeless? As evidenced by the What's Her Face's license, thee is no rhyme or reason to the timeline inherently. Why impose one? Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 22:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I was just about to say the same thing. Seeing as Strong Bad made the entire series up on a whim in one email from years ago, he probably doesn't care what age they are. TGS are cartoon characters who can be around for many years and never age or look any different. That's all. -Brightstar Shiner 22:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Is there anything in the cartoon that implies that they're graduating? I didn't see any. -DAGRON 22:56, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I thought about that too. Even more evidence that we are making our conjectures based on assumed information. And I don't like to just wave away a discussion on the basis that it just could be an on purpose screwed up timeline that might have been a mistake. Can't we just collect the info that's actually there and make an inference in the case that there actually is a solution, accidental or not? SuperfieldCreditUnion
Guys, guys, guys. Don't you think that, if it's dbated this much, we should move it to STUFF? I mean, come on. You guys have filled up half the talk page with this. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 01:38, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
No, I don't, actually. If we can resolve this by discussion, which is superior to voting, we should. Heimstern Läufer 02:07, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
In the words of Strong Bad, "They're teenage girls between the ages of thirteen and nineteen", which doesn't suggest that he's hugely concerned with defining their exact ages - the fact that they're teenage is all we get. What's Her Face expecting to see Mr. Pitters next September also suggests she's coming back after the summer. -- Mithent 12:12, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

whats her face is the oldest, she had already had her drivers liscense for a year in 2005

Quarterback/Quarterman

I transcribed this as "Quarterman", but it turns out in his earlier appearance he was "Quarterback". Not sure whether to trust Cheerleader or The Ugly One on this! -- Mithent 14:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Only Credits?

Is this currently the only TGS to have a real credit roll? 71.90.128.212 17:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but I don't think it's worth mentioning it in the Fun Facts section. SuperfieldCreditUnion

Also, potentially off-topic, why are there only three lines of the credits in the transcript? Shouldn't the whole credits be there?

Um, that IS all of it? Teen Girl Squad isn't exactly supposed to be a blockbuster production with a huge crew behind it, after all. It's surprising enough there's more than ONE line. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 19:10, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Tite Rolled

Could the name of the band that performs in the credits a reference to "Rick Roll", the famous 4Chan meme? Is this plausible? --Crazyneo 18:05, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

I'd say it's referring to the titles rolling, myself. -- Mithent 19:06, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
That makes sense --Crazyneo 19:22, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Eighty Sevens

Okay, so i was pretty sure i had moved it to goofs, but i saw it in remarks again, so i thought "maybe i didn't actually save earlier". Turns out i had, and trey moved it because like, maybe it was a joke, something that would irk greg. I actually like this explanation, but i wonder how plausible it is, i could go either way. so... goof or remark? — Defender1031*Talk 18:24, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

higher voices?

I don't know about you guys, but Cheerleader's voice sounded higher this time. but, a buttdanceNeox ONION BUBS!YOU WILL RESPECT MAH AUTHORI-TAH!!! 20:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

I noticed that too, especially in her first couple lines about boys. (...Boys.) --DorianGray 21:48, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Third'ed. It was jarring for me. Danny Lilithborne 03:20, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I think it's gotten progressively higher over these past 6 years. Bad Bad Guy 03:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
fourth'd! --Forddude1416 05:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
FIFTH'D!! --MichaelXX2 10:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
THE MIGHTY SIXTH'D!!! (This is fun.) And slightly scratchier. Chipwich
Why the crap did nobody count me? Bad Bad Guy 03:33, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

What I've Been Looking For

Could Quarterman's speech reference that High School Musical song with words like, "It's hard to believe, that I couldn't see, that you were always there beside me" blah blah blah here it is. Bad Bad Guy 21:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it's already mentioned in the Real-World References. --DorianGray 21:47, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I did not mean to create irony, if you were curious. Bad Bad Guy 21:50, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Canon

Woah. The way "canon" is defined in the Fun Facts is exactly what we're doing here at the Wiki. Probably not something to add to the article, but I just thought I'd bring that to attention. SuperfieldCreditUnion

Kind of, but not really. We like to reconcile facts with in-universe explanations when we can, and we note when things don't quite line up from toon to toon, but overall we know that H*R canon is a very loose concept that TBC only take seriously when it's funny to do so. See the discussion on flexible time above. The Star Wars and Star Trek folks would have none of it. — It's dot com 22:18, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Larry Palaron-So and So?

Does anyone else think that when So and So says "But Mrs. Frillsneck, I studied for a standardized test!", especially the "standardized test" part, she sounds a bit like Larry from Limozeen? DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 23:24, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

nope... i mean, since the voices are all the same guy, a bit, but not more so than usual, no. — Defender1031*Talk 23:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I concur...Matt does deliver the line using extremely similar intonation to much of Larry's dialogue, but I don't think it was a specific reference to Limozeen. Matt's done so many lines in so many voices, naturally there'll be a few lines of dialogue that, although spoken by different characters, sound alike. Aside from that, I think that they'd probably put a bigger Limozeen reference in there if it was intentional. Lucentas 00:34, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
No, I wasn't trying to get a fun fact out of it, I just forgot to use the forum...:^( DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 02:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Dixon Ticonderoga

In "Real-World References", should it be mentioned that Dixon Ticonderoga is a common brand of pencil found in high schools or is that too easily inferred by its use in the mimeogWRATH fight? GillanTheVillain 00:36, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Personally, I think it's just obvious, but I would not be opposed to an Explanation if others see a need. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 07:58, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I actually did not know that until reading this... i think it's necessary. — Defender1031*Talk 09:32, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm glad it was added, don't forget non-Americans like me don't necessarily have the same stuff! I expect you can get them in the UK, but they're not a household name at all. -- Mithent 10:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Just wanted to say that I'm American and I didn't recognize the term. -DAGRON 12:05, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Death

Would the dead bird on cheerleaders face be another reference to death? --Forddude1416 05:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Come to think of it, it'd definitely be a reference to birds dying, which happens a lot in older TGS issues... --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 17:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Despite that Cheerleader calls it a "dead finch", it actually looks more like a bat to me... just my two cents. -YKHi. I'm Ayjo! 20:14, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Looks like a bird to me. The tail is the part taped to Cheerleader; you can clearly see its beak at the bottom (with a nostril on one beak, even.) --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 20:22, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

The Alfred G. Graebner Memorial High School Handbook of Rules and Regulations

Hmmm, someone took out my Real World Reference comparison to this book, but I'm not seeing why in the history or talk. Did I write it with too many spoilers for the book? Or did someone think it's just a coincidence? (I'm quite confident that it merits at least the description 'reminiscent'.)

Um... what is that? Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 21:42, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, here's what I wrote:

  • Cheerleader's use of "several religions" as an excuse to evade exercise is reminiscent of The Alfred G. Graebner Memorial High School Handbook of Rules and Regulations, a novel (later adapted for television) in which one character converts to many different religions in order to skip classes on their various holidays. (The book also mentions dirty P.E. uniforms, used as an excuse to evade exercise in P.E.)
With all due respect, I highly doubt a couple of 30-year old animators are going to be referencing an Afterschool Special or its original Young Adult novel. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 08:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
With equal respect, really? Strong Bad watches a LOT of TV. My pop-culture background is similar to the animators'. I remember ditto sheets and Dixon T's and Apple ][s and all these things. I'm Strong Bad's generation. And I read the book - it's hilariously funny, by the way, and well worth your time if you enjoy TGS. If you had read it, you'd certainly find the "several religions" comment at least "reminiscent" of the book. (If you haven't, how can you judge the similarity?) Personally I think coincidence is a *less* likely reason than deliberate reference for this specific excuse showing up in such a similar context, but how do you figure it's not "reminiscent"?
But I didn't come here to argue. I thought this was a wiki. I provided some information and I stand by it. Use it or don't; I'm done. (But in any case, do look for the book: it's lots of fun!)

Strong Bad's End Credit Song

I'm almost positive i've heard that tune somewhere on the site before. Anyone know what it's based on? The Knights Who Say Ni 17:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you're thinking of "Tonight is All Right 4 Tonight", from Dangeresque 3?

Super Smash Squad?

Is it just me, or does the "Scantron vs MimeogWrath" part seem very simular to the titles before fights in the Super Smash Bros. video games? --ZootyCutie 21:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

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