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==Styles==
==Styles==
Can someone fill in the "Style" sections on the song pages? I did a few of them, but I'm not very good at genres. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 05:48, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
Can someone fill in the "Style" sections on the song pages? I did a few of them, but I'm not very good at genres. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 05:48, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
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:I also added a few, and left a few:
 
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:*[[The Actions You Can Do]]: Completely stumped on this one. [[Secret Song]] is similar in terms of instrumentation, but that's labeled a "Love Song", which is a classification unrelated to instrumentation and which doesn't really fit here.
 
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:*[[Peasant Spawning (Is Confusion)]]: The genre sounds familiar but it's on the tip of my tongue.
 
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:*[[Don't Forget to Recharge]]: I feel like I'd call this the "default Homestar genre" of music but I'm not sure if I can give a name to that genre.
 
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:*[[Trogdor's Fiery Rage (song)|Trogdor's Fiery Rage]]: [[Brainkrieg]] seems snarled in classification between "death metal", "grunge", "hardcore punk", and there's even a page that calls it "stoner rock". Unfortunately I don't know enough about those genres to definitively classify it.
 
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:{{User:DEIDATVM/sig}} 15:05, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
 
==Merge Video and Visuals==
==Merge Video and Visuals==
Right now, the songs with music videos are transcribed twice. Once on the song page, and once on the video page. I think that, instead of transcribing the songs on the video pages, we should put the visuals table there. That way, it would follow [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|OAOO]]. I think three pages for one song is kind of redundant. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 05:48, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
Right now, the songs with music videos are transcribed twice. Once on the song page, and once on the video page. I think that, instead of transcribing the songs on the video pages, we should put the visuals table there. That way, it would follow [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|OAOO]]. I think three pages for one song is kind of redundant. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 05:48, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
:On the same topic, I've been debating with myself whether or not I should go back and change the visuals-style [[Skills of an Artist]] transcripts for traditional ones, just for consistency. Visuals for music videos usually go on a separate page because they're not easy to transcribe traditionally. Do we have precedent on songs with videos? -- [[Special:Contributions/68.37.43.131|68.37.43.131]] 14:20, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
:On the same topic, I've been debating with myself whether or not I should go back and change the visuals-style [[Skills of an Artist]] transcripts for traditional ones, just for consistency. Visuals for music videos usually go on a separate page because they're not easy to transcribe traditionally. Do we have precedent on songs with videos? -- [[Special:Contributions/68.37.43.131|68.37.43.131]] 14:20, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
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::As far as I can tell, we do: [[Moving Very Slowly (video)]], [[It's Like It Was Meant to Be]] (also a video page), and [[Secret Song (video)]] all just transcribe the visuals in their respective pages without using a visuals chart, keeping [[Moving Very Slowly|the]] [[It's like it was meant to be|song]] [[Secret Song|pages]] separate. All the [[KaraokeFun]] pages don't seem to transcribe visuals at all for some reason—except [[Rock Opera (karaoke)]] which puts them into the main [[Rock Opera Visuals]] page for [[rock opera|the original sbemail]]. If the visuals for these new ones can be transcribed in the same manner then I'd say it's reasonable to follow the precedent of the former three. [[Trogdor's Fiery Rage (video)|Trogdor's Fiery Rage]] has simple enough visuals that it could probably be transcribed on the same page but I'm not sure about [[Quickstart Overview (video)|Quickstart Overview]]. {{User:DEIDATVM/sig}} 16:46, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
 
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:::Perhaps this might be a good discussion to have in the ''[[HRWiki talk:Standards|Wiki Standards talk page]]'' for possible inclusion as a standard? (If we want to have a standard way to handle visuals.) ==[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:01, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
 
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::Speaking of precedent, the other two Brainkreig songs have [[If I Don't Get Video Games... Visuals|visuals]] [[Decomposing Pumpkins Visuals|pages]], so Trogor's Fiery Rage can do the same. For a music video like Quickstart Overview, I think about how we did [[Rap Song Visuals|Rap Song]] and [[Trudgemank Visuals|Trudgemank]], where only the lyrics were transcribed and the visuals went on a separate page. That's how I think, anyway. The thing is that the songs DEIDATVM cited started as audio tracks first and the music video came separately later, just like the Trogdor EP, so we have separate pages for those. So I figure our standards should have a separate visuals page for each music video. -- [[Special:Contributions/68.37.43.131|68.37.43.131]] 20:46, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
 
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:::The examples you cited, in my opinion, don't really work as precedents. It seems like you're looking at other songs with the same artists/genres for comparison, but they don't have separate song and video pages like these do, so it's not a fair comparison. ''These'' songs are transcribed twice, and I'm saying one of those times is unnecessary and can be replaced with visuals (in a chart or otherwise). I agree with DEIDATVM — we should probably follow the precedents of the first three he mentioned.
 
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:::Also, I don't think a Wiki Standards discussion is necessary, since we already have a standard way to handle visuals. For music videos, we put them in a chart on a separate page, and for audio songs with videos created later, we put the visuals on the video page (which is what I'm suggesting). {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 00:40, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
 
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::::{{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=783774 This is what I'm suggesting}}. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 18:24, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
 
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:::::Now that there are three videos, let's resume the discussion. I don't see any drawbacks to putting the visuals right on the video page. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 22:34, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
 

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