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Stinkoman's Cup

Does anyone else think the image on his cup looks like a Mr. Saturn? However, it does lack the bow and hair. Sonichu 12:39, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

No. It's just a face. And Mr. Saturn doesn't have a visible mouth. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 17:15, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
  • looks like ziggy to me.

Did anyone else notice the resemblance between Ziggy and the picture on Stinkoman's "Top Exec mug?" Picture provided. Mug on left, Picture of Ziggy on the right. Image:Exec-Ziggy.jpg

To me, the face on Stinkoman's mug doesn't resemble anything except a face. The reason it looks like Ziggy is because Ziggy is extraordinarily simplistic, as is the one on the mug. It is probably coincidence. (If it was supposed to be Ziggy, you'd think they'd at least make him happy-looking...) Perhaps in two or three years, a DVD commentary can confirm or deny this, but I don't think there's enough to go on one way or another currently. --DorianGray 06:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm gonna have to say that the nose is distinctive enough for a positive identification. — Defender1031*Talk 15:39, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Chaos Emeralds

Could the Crystal Shards be a reference to the Chaos Emeralds from the Sonic games, or is it another Kirby reference? It could also be just a generic parody of those anime involving collecting random objects, but to me, Sonic was the first thing that came to mind. Shadoman 13:35, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

There are literally HUNDREDS of video games out there where you try to get crystals before a bad guy can. So no. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 17:15, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Do we want to stick in a generic "they're a reference to the video-game cliche of having to collect stuff" sort of message? --Belthazar 21:13, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
I immediately thought of the Chaos Emeralds. I guess I'm not familiar with other games specifically with colored crystals that must be collected before the bad guy can. If there literally are hundreds, it should be easy to tell me: what else is there? Just a couple examples will do... OptimisticFool 21:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Chrono Cross. Final Fantasy I AND III AND IV AND V. Kirby, as previously mentioned. Mario RPGs tend to use stars instead of crystals, but the idea is there — indeed, the first Mario RPG included a boss who used the elemental crystals as an homage to Final Fantasy. Seriously, this is a long-running cliche. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 21:23, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Heck, it just occurred to me that one Mario RPG has you collect crystal stars. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 21:32, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
I realize there are other games with crystals (and Orbs in the case of the original release of Final Fantasy I), but the bright coloring is what I wonder about. Final Fantasy games don't have it. I know nothing about Kirby and Chrono Cross. OptimisticFool 21:33, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Chrono Cross absolutely does; the six colors of the crystals have major gameplay/plot significance. And Final Fantasy sometimes does color them, though not always. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 21:34, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and did I neglect to mention The Legend of Zelda: The Ocarina of Time? (Though as far as I can recall, that's the only Zelda where you collect crystals per se, the entire series lives and breathes the plot coupon trope.) --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 21:42, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Actually, you collect crystals in Link to the Past. You collect jewels and medallions in Ocarina of Time. -YKHi. I'm Ayjo! 23:50, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
I suppose you do collect crystals in LttP - forgot that - but are jewels not crystals? --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 00:06, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
"Kokiri Emerald", "Goron Ruby", and "Zora Sapphire"... I guess technically they could be counted as "crystals"... I just tend to think of crystals as the kind from Final Fantasy and whatnot. -YKHi. I'm Ayjo! 03:03, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Paper Mario the 1000 Year Door has you collect crystal stars. StarFox 22:08, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Dragonball Z jumped to my mind (well, not DRAGONBALL Z, per se. Super Mario Bros. Z, specifically). SuperfieldCreditUnion
It's not a game, but Inyuyasha involves collecting jewel shards. I'm surprised no one mentioned that show yet. BBG 01:39, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Okay, the point has been made! Crystals aren't unique to Kirby. We can stop bringing up references, now. =) --Belthazar 03:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I agree with what was said above. Maybe we could just say, "Stinkoman and the Challenge of the Crystal Shards is likely a parody of anime and video game series involving characters searching for objects." Shadoman 11:43, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
That sounds like the type of thing people can figure out themselves though. BBG 15:52, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Aren't Crystal Shards MacGuffins in anime and video games? If so, doesn't that make them TTATOT? – The Chort 21:50, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

My girlfriend laughed and at the end said that she loved how it referenced Inu Yasha with the search for the Crystal Shards. There could be a connection there, as Inu Yasha is pretty popular right now. --Specter 15:17, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Kirby Obsession?

While I realize that Kirby is a great series, I believe these two Real-World References are stretching it a bit too far:

  1. Pan Pan sucking up Stinkoman and 1-Up is likely a reference to the Kirby series of video games, where Kirby was able to suck his enemies into his mouth and copy their powers.
  2. Stinkoman and the Challenge of the Crystal Shards may also be an reference to the Nintendo 64 game: Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards

I believe they should be deleted, because they both seem very TTATOT. Crystal Shards appear in lots of different games and cartoons, like Sonic the Hedgehog, for instance. And the "Pan Pan sucking them up" thing is likely just a reference to how much he loves to eat. If they had played a sound effect like you hear in the Kirby games, I could agree with this one. Comments before I delete these? -- Nevadie 14:13, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Pan Pan has never shown this ability before, and he even seems to do a similar pose to Kirby. I don't know about the second one, but I think the first one is a reference. Shadoman 15:11, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

I say we delete the second one.24.207.22.233 15:43, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

I say we delete both of them! I'd say it's more of an inside reference of characters eating each other, like when Sickly Sam ate Strong Bad. The similar pose doesn't convince me, either. It's just too much of a stretch to constitute a reference. Howsabout a compromise? We could say: "Pan Pan's pose while inhaling Stinkoman and 1-up is similar to Kirby's" Or something like that. -- Nevadie 21:50, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

First off: since WHEN have we known Pan Pan likes to eat? Secondly: In no way has a HR character ever actually sucked up another character. Listen to the Kirbyfan here, peoples. First thing: DEFINITELY a Kirby ref. but, a buttdanceNeox ONION BUBS!YOU WILL RESPECT MAH AUTHORI-TAH!!! 00:30, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Agreed on the Kirby ref. His mouth also becomes the size of the front of his body, which is distinctly Kirby-like. TsuyoiWarui 02:48, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it's a coincidence that the attack method for a character named Kirby consists of sucking its enemies into its mouth. I suspect that the ultimate reference is to the vacuum cleaner company of the same name. See http://www.kirby.com/ Nsayer 21:54, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

That's one of the theories about the name. But that's not the reference - this isn't the Kirby Wiki. 20X6 lampoons anime and video games in general, and Video Games + Sucking Stuff Up = Kirby. TsuyoiWarui 22:15, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Not to mention that some people think Kirby got his name from the vaccuum cleaner company, a very appropriate decision considering his nature. But Others think Kirby was named after John Kirby, the lawyer who won a lawsuit involving the Donkey Kong arcade game. But Masahiro Sakurai, the creator of Kirby, said he doesn't even remember how Kirby got his name. Who knew being a Kirbyfan would pay off someday? but, a buttdanceNeox ONION BUBS!YOU WILL RESPECT MAH AUTHORI-TAH!!! 19:04, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Bad Guy's ID

The silhouette of the Bad Guy at the end of the toon bears a striking resemblance to Coach Z in a cape. --Wordmama 16:26, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Just like in Stinkoman 20X6 and Make-O Your Own Stinko, right? We know. It's speculation, and it's still on his character page. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 17:08, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Stinko's new hairdo

Right after producing a pilgrim hat from nowhere, Stinkoman has his normal hair. But, after cutting to 1-up and then back, he has his Top Exec hair. I'm unsure if this should be a goof or a remark. -20eric06 18:58, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

I see the exec hair both times. — Defender1031*Talk 19:06, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Look 'right' under the hat, first time. Then compare with the start of the toon or wherever he has his normal hair. After 1-up gives him the green crystal shard, look again, then compare with the exec hair. -20eric06 19:16, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
yes -20eric06 wins but the hair is moved

Duplicate Stinkos?

  • Stinkoman appears twice in this toon when his leg is buried.

Does he appear twice, or did he just remove one of his legs and stick it in the ground (as his way of "giving thanks" somehow..)? If both of his legs appeared attached to him while a separate one was in the ground, then I wouldn't dispute this... but he conveniently pops in partially off-screen. OptimisticFool 21:25, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

This is something that merits serious debate. — 24.193.171.246 (Talk | contribs) 22:32, 24 November 2008 (UTC) (left unsigned)
He appears twice. His foot moves when he mumbles, just like Strong Bad's head when his mouth is not visible. -Opus the Penguin

This is just silly

"The title "Stinkoman and the challenge of the Crystal Shards" could also be a play off the recent movie Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull in which Harrison Ford played a history professor trying to obtain the crystal skulls before the Nazis could."

Aside from that being a completely silly contribution, Indiana Jones fought Cold War Russians in that movie, not Nazis.

I agree. This is not even a reference if the Soviets part is fixed. There is nothing else to suggest a link between Stinkoman and Indiana Jones besides their names being similar...BALEETED! -- Nevadie 21:45, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, there are a lot of really really general "references" being added today. 'Sup with that? Del taco it. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 21:46, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Maybe it's a reference to Kirby 64: the Crystal Shards? That's the first thing I thought of... then again, I've got Kirby on the brain right now. - C.Olimar788 22:39, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

That's under the part above, it's been discussed, and deleted Wise dude321 23:40, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
The name sounds similar, that's all that is similar between them. -Opus the Penguin

blushing

is this the first time 1-up has blushed this much?(if at all) i also thought he looked a little different from previous apperances throughout the entire toon. did anyone else think so?--Shaggy | talk 22:47, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is the first time. I think that's what caused him to look a bit... off throughout the short. I think the rest of his animation is the same. - C.Olimar788 01:23, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Blushing ridiculously is a common trope in anime. But since the entire Stinkoman series is meant to be a parody of anime and video games, I think this doesn't really merit a Real-World Reference or otherwise TsuyoiWarui 02:51, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Maybe I'm just crude, but I thought his first blush was after Stinkoman farted, and his second blush was after he farted... kitoba

I thought it was 1-up both times. DrPepper42 12:31, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Noone's farting. It's just a distressed-face sound effect. --Belthazar 12:34, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Voice

Is it just me, or does the voice that tells you to tune in next time seem to be the Shadowy Figure's? Strongkinghomsarsmith 23:04, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

It seems entirely plausible, but we have never actually heard him speak. We have only ever heard him laugh.
Yes, but the voice sounds like it could make the laugh. Strongkinghomsarsmith 01:18, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
That's because it's the same voice actor, remember? Dinosaurshotgun 05:01, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
But it's also the same actor that does the KOT, who sounds entirely different. It could be. DrPepper42 12:37, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand...

What are those three holes in Pan Pan's stomach? Is that a reference to something real, or just regular 20X6 ridiculousness? Omnisweater 00:54, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

I took it as he's hollow and air filled like Pom Pom and the three holes lead to his arms and head, or something. -128.103.10.17 08:04, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
If that were the case, 1-up and Stinkoman would have fallen in through the middle hole, and the holes would be directly above them. Pan Pan clearly ate them with his head. Omnisweater 21:38, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
If this is the case, should the location be changed from Pan Pan's STOMACH to Pan Pan's INSIDES since it appears he does not have a stomach? -Opus the Penguin

insignia

I think the insignia on Stinko's tractor are meant to resemble those seen on NASCAR and other race cars.

Maybe not NASCAR, but the one in the middle definitely resembles the National Aircraft Insignia; I added it. As for the other shapes, it's unclear whether they are stickers or maybe lights. I don't know where the "CITIZEN" sticker comes from. — DyM 04:09, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
As someone already posted on the page, the insignia are meant to resemble Kaneda's motorbike from Akira. Note the CITIZEN sticker on both. (Ok, so the image I linked to is a Lego model. It's meant to be an accurate model, though.) --Belthazar 04:46, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Foods

Unreadable, but apparently delicious.

Looks like we've got a few new foods to list... somewhere. I guess Minor Foods would be the place? I've uploaded a screencap of the first item 1-Up holds up, which he only describes as "favorite food". I should probably have gotten the other two items ("Spiced Bun" and "Frozen Bake") while I was at it, but I don't have Greasemonkey installed, nor a flash decompiler, so I just grabbed this one while watching the toon a second time.

I'm really wondering what the label on the box says. It's definitely kanji, but they're so fuzzy that I can't figure out exactly what it says. I tried looking them up in JWPce, but couldn't find much like them. They just look familiar enough to make me think they're actual kanji, and not just random scribbles. And TBC have used kanji before. Maybe I could find them in one of my reference books, but that would require me to find my books first. Any ideas from other Japanese students here? -- LGC&CS 04:54, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

I asked a Japanese friend what she thought. She said: "blimey, shooty writing. i cant read the last one O.o second one depending on the last means something else, but this way it says dai. the first one, one of the lines is weird o.O the first one... if that middle line was to the oter side would be kokoro, could also be ji.... i dunno o.o" I asked "Kokoro as in heart?" and she replied "yea, but the other two on the right would have to be a bit dif... or else ji... but it would have to be a bit more turned right..."
I showed her the toon as well, and her comment was "thats the most weird video ive ever seen." Final word: "i dunno what it says, really dont" --Belthazar 05:38, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I've put out a couple notes to friends myself. We'll see what they think (if anything). --DorianGray 05:42, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Middle one is (most likely coincidentally) "dai", but I'm guessing it's just Japanese-looking squiggle. Danny Lilithborne 06:49, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure they're just japanese-esque squiggles. -128.103.10.17 08:02, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I speak Japanese quite well, and I think that these could mean anything. I'm pretty sure they're just randomly painted lines to give the general 'idea' of kanji. TsuyoiWarui 18:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Well, my friend got back to me, and she says this:
The middle one says "big" (read "dai") ... but the others don't say anything, as far as I can tell =P They're just squiggles... The one on the left looks like hiragana "ni" or kinda like "kokoro"... The one on the right looks like "watashi," but the right radical would need a few more lines... so yeah, it's gibberish xD
I guess this matter is settled. It's just lines with a Japanese-esque appearance. --DorianGray 22:02, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Brain?

I say we delete the reference "Pan-Pan's stomach looks like a brain". It looks like a ball of muscle and acid!

I would say it looks like a generic organ-like thing. Pink and squishy. But the most famous pink and squishy organ with a strange pattern of nudules along the outside, at least in cartoons and games, is the brain. TsuyoiWarui 22:58, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

100 %

Should it be noted that this is the first 100% 20X6 cartoon? Shure, there have been Stinkoman cartoons before, but they all had something... not Stinkoman.

That depends on whether or not you count the "Under Construction" page, and whether or not you count games and main pages, really... --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 17:57, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Stinkoman Burying Himself

Do you guys think its a reference to Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders?

Maybe. Could you please elaborate why it might be a reference? Did a character bury his leg or appear in two places at the same time? – The Chort 21:44, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
There's several issue where people get buried. One is where Jotaro and the gang see ascetics underground using straws for air in India, another when they find the Stand User Cameo Under the earth in hiding when his stand Judgement attacked them.
That's only a reference if a similar-looking scene appears - e.g. that a character appears buried in the ground with just one leg sticking up. If just being underground was a reference, you could say it refers to Journey to the Center of the Earth. It doesn't, incidentally. --Belthazar 22:04, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Not necessarily since Stinkoman is mainly anime references, but I get most of the point.

Kirby?

Could "Stinkoman and the Crystal Shards" be a reference to the N64 game, Kirby and the crystal shards?

GameSpot article: http://www.gamespot.com/n64/action/kirby64thecrystalshards/index.html?tag=result;title;0

We already have discussions on both Kirby and the crystals, thank you very much. BBG 22:54, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Lowercase i's?

Do you think that "i can not name all of them" could be an instance of Lowercase i's?--Dungeonman262 22:10, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Not really, since the whole line is lower-case, including "sarah". --Belthazar 22:13, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Flash 8

As I've said before... The toon looks weird on Wii because of Flash 8. Notice some of the special effects, they couldn't have done that stuff in 5. -??? 00:46, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

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