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The Visor Robot's name is Robbot Darren, or at least there is a robot named Robot Darren who zaps you if you try to fight him in Hallrunner, complete with the "VOIP!"

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Sketchbook, 2005-04-29

this week's sketch book identifies this as the "fhqwhgads robot"; should we relabel to match?
MetaStar 15:09, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • In this case, I'm leaning towards no - because the robot predates any connection to Fhqwhgads. (see Homestarloween Party) --Jay (Talk) 15:13, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I agree with Jay. We have to remember that we take the naming of minor characters a bit more seriously than perhaps The Brothers Chaps do, since we need to put them into articles where consistency matters. I'd imagine they were probably just thinking something like, "Hey, it's that robot we used in the fhqwhgads song!" or something. -- Tom
So where does the name "Visor Robot" come from anyway? I mean, I know it has a visor, but by that logic it might as well be "Laser Robot" or something... Aurora the Homestar Coder 19:41, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
This discussion is a lot like the one on Talk:Arrow'd Guy, where TBC called a character by a specific name in an obscure reference, and we responded by changing what we call the character here on the wiki. I supported calling Arrow'd Guy by that name because (1) I think it's likely TBC actually call him that, (2) the new name is less cumbersome than the old one, and (3) to me, "Arrow'd Guy" better describes what the character does than the arbitrary "The Man with the Huge Mouth."
In the case of the robot, however, I wouldn't be surprised if TBC don't call him that on a regular basis. Without more to go on, and because "Visor Robot" is just as concise as "Fhqwhgads Robot" (and because remembering how to spell "fhqwhgads" is a pain in the you-know-where), I don't support changing what we call him at this time. — It's dot com 06:57, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I know this is "waking a dead subject" or whatever Joshua called it, but I think we should relabel this article Fhqwhgads Robot because that name is more official than Visor Robot, and that name doesn't really explain the character at all, whereas with Arrow'd Guy that name just makes sense, and "The Man with the Huge Mouth" would be too much rigamarole for any of us. And with "fhqwhgads" being hard to type, it's not hard for me at all, and we'd only need to use his name a couple of times, because chances are we won't be editing anything related to him for a while, anyway. Oh, and sorry for ranting. I just can't make a point in few words, ever. Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif)

I still say you shouldn't have: Homestarloween Party predates i love you. And you got no consensus before changing it. --Jay v.2021 (Good riddance 2020) 20:39, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Fine, change it back to the completely innacurate name (not that you haven't already), and keep using the most unofficial names as possible. I'm gonna talk to The Chaps about this, or would that even make a difference? Since it looks like the goal here is to use the most innacurate name possible, then that'd just be proof that he is the Fhqwhgads Robot! Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif)
So, he was Fhqwhgads Robot, before Fhqwhgads existed? TBC just made a mistake... They didn't call him Fhqwhgads Robot when they made him. Do we call Strong Bad Wrestleman (as his real name), just because he's had that name in the sketchbook? Bluebry 23:33, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Well, which is more official? The name they called him "by mistake" or some name some guy made up? And here's another question —
Where on the site is he called the Visor Robot?
Just wondering. Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif)
Edit conflict. So they may have retroactively named it. There's nothing to say they can't. The last part of your argument is flawed, Bluebry, because Strong Bad has already been officially named as 'Strong Bad', and a nickname in the sketchbook isn't going to change that. But for something that has not previously been officially named like the Visor Robot, a name in the sketchbook is the closest we can come to official. I vote for page move. —BazookaJoe 23:44, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Darth Katana and BazookaJoe, I think it should be Fhqwhgads robot. When TBC picked the sketches to use in the Weekly Sketchbook, they had to ask themselves, "What is the offical name for this guy going to be?" If the used the name "Fhqwhgads Robot" in the Sketchbook, then it is more than likely the name TBC call him all the time. If a name is given anywhere on the site, that is the name we have to use, whether we like it or not. We don't just say, "Hey, Pom-Pom is a weird name, so I'ma call him Josh from now on." I think that if we want this Wiki to be as accurate as possible, we use the name TBC use and not a name some fan made up. P.S. When the creator makes a mistake and they don't correct it, it is called canon. Has Matt? (talk) 23:45, 18 February 2006 (UTC) P.P.S. Edit conficts suck.
I unfortunatly, have to agree. I still don't want him called Fhqwhgads Robot (yes, that means I'm still for Visor Robot), but that's a hgard thing to battle. Lemme think... well... it is his official name... can we just name him both? Fhqwhgads/Visor Robot? I dunno... Bluebry 23:48, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm in agreement with the move, but don't forget that we should give Jay, Dot com and Tom time to respond to this, since they opposed it in the past. Heimstern Läufer 23:53, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Yeah. Give 'em time. Bluebry 23:54, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
It's safe to assume that Jay and It's dot com aren't with us on changing this article's name to "Fhqwhgads Robot." I wonder what Tom thinks of this whole thing? I also totally agree with BazookaJoe and Has Matt?, especially on the part about "Josh." Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif)
The concensus (or whatever) is 6 to 3, Fhqwhgads winning. Tom wouldn't help it be changed or stayed either way. might as well change it (I'm still for Visor Robot, just so you don't say I ever wasn't) Bluebry 00:03, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. It's more like 8 to 3. Bluebry 00:08, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

You might want to hold off on the page move. That's jumping the gun. —BazookaJoe 00:17, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Spoke too late. Bluebry 00:18, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

It's not that I like the name "Visor Robot" - it's that I don't like the name "Fhqwhgads Robot" for a character that predates fhqwhgads. That said, at least wait for a consensus before changing it (it was changed without consensus before.) --Jay v.2021 (Good riddance 2020) 03:40, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Jay (although I do like the name "Visor Robot"). --DorianGray
Whatever, Jay, but you're not answering my question. Once again —
Where on the site is he called the Visor Robot?
Answer that! Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif)
My answer is this: It's not that I like the name "Visor Robot" - it's that I don't like the name "Fhqwhgads Robot" for a character that predates fhqwhgads. If we could find another name (er, Valerie doesn't count) that could satisfy everyone and would still fit with all of his appearances, heck, go for it. --Jay v.2021 (Good riddance 2020) 06:49, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Also, Darth, please don't get so combatative! It's really not necessary. I'm sure Jay knows that he is never called the Visor Robot on the site. But he objects to the name Fhqwhgads robot for a a character that existed prior to the name Fhqwhgads. And I respect his opinion in that respect, even though I disagree with it. I'm with you; I believe if the name Fhqwhgads Robot was good enough for TBC to use on the site, it's good enough for this wiki. But please, let's keep this discussion friendly. Heimstern Läufer 06:53, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
This is similar to the Arrow'd Guy argument; "Arrow'd" doesn't apply to every single one of the character's appearances. That said, I'll concede one thing about Mr. Arrow'd: at least his name fits his first appearance. I can't even give that one to the Robot. --Jay v.2021 (Good riddance 2020) 07:03, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
What about "Laser Robot"? "Oh, and then the robot came and he started vaporising everybody with his laser sound!" He also has a laser effect in the Fhqwhgads song, and VOiPs off So-and-So's head with a laser (rendering her burnt, or dead). I think lasers might fit... --DorianGray
I admit that I like that one better than "Visor". --Jay v.2021 (Good riddance 2020) 09:05, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
I also concur. Heimstern Läufer 09:10, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
That's better than "Visor Robot," but not worth going through the rigamarole of changing the name just for that. Look, whether he was around before Fhqwhgads or not, that's what The Brothers Chaps called him and that's more than likely his name - unless it's Robot Darren. I asked The Chaps about it, but I haven't got any replies. So far they've been ignoring me, they probably saw me on the Wiki and I did something they didn't like and now they despise me or something. That's how my life goes and whatever.
All right, so sorry for getting mad about this. But finding all my edits changed back to a one hundred percent inaccurate name really cheesed me off, plus I'm frustrated and stressed all the time no matter what. Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif)
Sorry for upsetting you, but there really was no consensus to change it at the time that you did - the only discussions on the topic were months old and mostly concluded with the agreement to leave them alone, at least for the time being. The consensus may be swinging the other way, but that only happened after you made the change. And, knowing TBC, why do I have a feeling that this week's Weeklies may address this subject? :p --Jay v.2021 (Good riddance 2020) 09:42, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Sugg change name to "Robot" and have "fhqwhgads robot" be directed. It has never been referred to as "Visor Robot" and it's second and probably most prominent appearence was in "Everybody To The Limit". Thoughts? Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 09:40, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

I like it with but one flaw: The Robot. Having this separate from "Robot" (they are different characters) would be confusing in some ways. --Jay v.2021 (Good riddance 2020) 09:42, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
NEW INFO I see now that "The Robot" is taken. As it's most well known from "ETTL" and it's described in Sketch as the "fhqwhgads Robot" perhaps that's what name it really has. As for the argument that the 1st appearance of the robot is before fhqwhgads was conceived, leave it as a back-naming, the robot had no name until "ETTL". Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 09:44, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, Jay, I probably shouldn't have, but then again, we probably wouldn't be discussing this if I didn't. Anyway, if someone The Chaps would probably have more respect for (like Jay or It's dot com) would e-mail them and ask them, that'd end all arguements, right? Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif)
Heh, if only it were that easy. But it's not very likely they'd respond to anyone's email, not even Tom's, and Tom has met them. We're probably going to have to solve this one on our own. Heimstern Läufer 04:04, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Just a comment: Didn't we get Arrow'd Guy's name from the back of Everybody Everybody Poster? How does the robot called there? Elcool (talk)(contribs) 07:12, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

No, not on the back of the poster; on the Store's caption for it. No reference to this robot there. Heimstern Läufer 07:14, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

A Possible Solution

I like the idea of simply naming it "The Robot". There are two choices there, either moving "The Robot" to "The Robot (storybook)" first, or merging the two articles. Since they haven't really been used together (The original robot pretty much having been replaced by the visor robot), I think merging the two characters into one page would be the most obvious choice. And who's to say they're not supposed to be the same character? The Robot may have gone through it's fair share of evolution, like everybody else. Thunderbird 07:44, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

That's a grood idea. And we could write about similar robots like Robot Darren there, too, and then we could give the Fhqwhgads Robot his own page when we know his name for sure, or if he is Robot Darren or The Robot or whatever. Hmm, it'd be funny if we found out the robot is a she, too. He/she is called Vallerie sometimes, maybe it's kind of like in Eragon with the dragon and everything. Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif)
I concur. Not last place. Ding! --Jay v.2021 (Good riddance 2020) 04:38, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Now that's talent! Good prize! Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 05:10, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
I also agree. (Might we reach consensus at last?) Heimstern Läufer 07:19, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
It rocks that we finally came to an agreement. So, who's gonna do the honors of merging them? And how come the freakin' "Watch this page" option does nothing? Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif)
Not too hasty, Darth, let's give a little more time for people to weigh in. That's the way we like to do things around here. Heimstern Läufer 07:30, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
"Watch this page" simply makes it appear in your watchlist (look at the very top right corner of the page) when it's edited. And it boldfaces it on the "Recent changes" page. --Jay v.2021 (Good riddance 2020) 08:08, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Ah, thanks, man. Anyway, I think we can just close the whole thing up and merge them now. No need for a continuation. Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif)

Disagree on merge, agree on rename to "The Robot" and "The Robot" to "The Robot (Storybook)". Bluebry 02:13, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Not last place? Good prize? Woohoo! Thunderbird 02:32, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Having "The Robot" and "The Robot (Storybook) is a bad idea. Can we just merge 'em? Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif)
Well, they're two different things. Bluebry 03:03, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Not a robot?

Is it necessary to state that the "not a robot" disclaimer in Senor Mortgage means anything? I just assumed it was a play on the "not an actor" actors in such commercials... --Jay (Talk) 02:18, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

I don't think it does. --TheThin 13:55, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
I do, and anyway, this discussion is outdated because what I was talking about nine months ago has since been removed. --Jay v.2021 (Good riddance 2020) 20:40, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

How?

How do we know his name's Visor Robot? He's never been called that by any of the characters...Poopsmith Z

We don't. See discussion above re: Fhqwhgads Robot. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 14:04, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)
How do we know his name's Fhqwhgads Robot? How 'bout just "robot"? Or something like that... Bluebry 13:45, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Well, he's the robot from Fhqwhgads. --TheThin 13:48, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
No, he's the robot from Homestarloween Party. We don't even know if he is the robot from Everybody to the Limit. I say, we change the name. To what, I dunno. Bluebry 13:54, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
The sketchbook calls him the Fhqwhgads Robot, so we should call him that. We can't just call him "robot" because he needs to be distinguishable from The Robot.– The Chort 13:58, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
How does the Everybody Everybody Poster calls him? It have a list on the back of it. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 14:54, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
No, it doesn't. --Jay v.2021 (Good riddance 2020) 20:41, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Voice

"His voice seems to be very similiar to that of "Microsoft Sam" for Windows XP"

Are there different versions of MS Sam for XP? I've listened to the one I have and it sounds like they sampled some man's voice and played it back. Visor Robot sounds...well, like a robot. Absolutely nothing like Microsoft Sam. I'm adding this note (as opposed to going straight ahead to remove this line) to see if I'm the only one who's Micorsoft Sam sounds attemptedly human. --Tweek

I can see this page has changed somewhat. Before, it said that his voice seems to be very similar to that of Microsoft Sam for Windows XP. Now, it says that his voice is Mcintosh's Zarvox. His voice in Everybody to the Limit is Mcintosh's Zarvox. His voice in Senor Mortgage, however, sounds very similar to Microsoft Sam. Should I put that in the article? I remember hearing the one version of MS Sam, and it sounded a lot like the robot in Senor Mortgage. User:2Fast2Furious 12:55 pm, 8 Feb 2006

Stlunko's ancestor?

I was looking on Wikipedia for Homestar, and came up to this present day/1936/20X6 chart. On it, it says that the Visor Robot is possibly the ancestor of Stlunko. Is this worth noting? I mean, we have the Sticklyman/Poopsmith connection. -Marth 99 18:21, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

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