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::::I mean, that's okay if we're going to list every video it appeared in, but that could be exhaustive. "Introduced in" means only the first one. If it turns out that they only appear in a couple of videos each, then sure, that makes a lot of sense. --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 16:53, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
::::I mean, that's okay if we're going to list every video it appeared in, but that could be exhaustive. "Introduced in" means only the first one. If it turns out that they only appear in a couple of videos each, then sure, that makes a lot of sense. --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 16:53, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi Purple Wrench,  I actually like where you're taking this proposal of focusing on each preview individually.  To that end I have a few remarks:
Hi Purple Wrench,  I actually like where you're taking this proposal of focusing on each preview individually.  To that end I have a few remarks:
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* Since there is precedent that frames can be related, I proposed that related frames be listed next to each other
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* Since there is precedent that frames can be related, I propose that related frames be listed next to each other
* Sorting: in what order are we going to present these frames? Although we can make the table sortable, we still should figure out how to sort these (if at all).
* Sorting: in what order are we going to present these frames? Although we can make the table sortable, we still should figure out how to sort these (if at all).
* "Introduced In" vs. "Appears as" I see the benefit in both (keeping track of first appearance vs. all apperances) I can't make up my mind at this time.
* "Introduced In" vs. "Appears as" I see the benefit in both (keeping track of first appearance vs. all apperances) I can't make up my mind at this time.

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Alternate page organization

It's a little early to decide this, since only three videos have been released with fake thumbnails, but if more videos have reused ones it'll probably be redundant to just keep uploading images of all nine at once and fill the table with "previously shown frame" comments.
Instead, what if we uploaded each thumbnail as its own image and displayed all of the thumbnails in a three-column vertical table? The first column would be each thumbnail, the second column would be a description of the thumbnail and any trivia or remarks, and the third column would be the toon it was introduced in.

So, for example,

Thumbnail Description Introduced In
(insert uploaded thumbnail here) Coach Z and Strong Sad dancing on the Race Track in outer space Fish Eye Lens
(insert uploaded thumbnail here) A photograph of a CRT television displaying Swordquest: Earthworld. The Videlectrix Guys appear in the lower-left corner, along with the caption "Joystick Wagglin' with Videlectrix" Fish Eye Lens
.........
(insert uploaded thumbnail here) Pom Pom peeking out of a stylized human brain Fish Eye Lens
(insert uploaded thumbnail here) A framed picture of The Videlectrix Guys next to a four-switch Atari 2600, a Spectravideo Quickshot third-party controller, and a copy of the game Haunted House. The caption reads "Joystick Wagglin' with the 'Trix" Halloween Safety
etcetcetc


Once you get to sbemail206, there is only one entry for that toon in the table. Then, on the page for the toon itself, we could just put a 3x3 table of images that includes all the thumbnails at the end of the video, with a link to this page for more details.

Just something to keep in mind as more videos are uploaded. -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 16:20, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

The question is.. Is the page for organization of the thumbnails themselves or what the thumbnails in each video is? Catjaz63 16:27, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Oooh. Tough call. I'm leaning towards the thumbnails themselves. Each toon's page can list what its own thumbnails are. In the other case, imagine if twenty videos were uploaded and they all had the same thumbnails but each in a different order. It would no longer make sense to upload twenty images because they were all the same nine thumbnails. For comparison (and there's very little to compare it with on Homestar Runner), would we upload a new image for every Main Page each time the "what's new" button changed or a new Sketchbook was added? -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 16:40, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Maybe replace "introduced in" with "appears in"? Catjaz63 16:47, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
I mean, that's okay if we're going to list every video it appeared in, but that could be exhaustive. "Introduced in" means only the first one. If it turns out that they only appear in a couple of videos each, then sure, that makes a lot of sense. -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 16:53, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi Purple Wrench, I actually like where you're taking this proposal of focusing on each preview individually. To that end I have a few remarks:

  • Since there is precedent that frames can be related, I propose that related frames be listed next to each other
  • Sorting: in what order are we going to present these frames? Although we can make the table sortable, we still should figure out how to sort these (if at all).
  • "Introduced In" vs. "Appears as" I see the benefit in both (keeping track of first appearance vs. all apperances) I can't make up my mind at this time.
  • My biggest concern is that of unnecessarily removing information: currently we not only have individual frame information but we have information of the layout of the frames as a whole. I do not think it would be appropriate to limit the "whole frame" information to the individual toons, i think that it would be good if this page would document *both* kinds of information: individual frames at the beginning of the page, and toon/layout information near the bottom (with simple links to the individual entries at the top using anchor links). This might also reduce the need for an "Appears in" column.
  • After the page format is settled, we should remove some of the redundant information on the toon pages and simply link to this page.

That is my opinion on this topic. --Stux 17:02, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

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