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That Huuuudge looks like something off batman I saw... dont know when though...

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Lure...?

I couldn't help thinking that maybe the Fangly Fish's lure should have been something that attracts other fish... Not scares them away.

Well, it's apparently trying to lure them with promises of free puppies, ginger snaps and Pocket PCs. -- Mithent 14:20, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)

Civil Rights Speech?

  • I believe the line "It is a time of desolation, chaos and uncertainty. Brother pitted against brother; babies havin' babies." comes from a famous speech made by someone during the Civil Rights movement, but I don't remember the exact one. Does anyone know?
    • It reminds me of Ghostbusters ... "Dogs and cats living together..."

About this Fun Fact: I'm not contesting it or recommending it for STUFF, but a quick Google search turned up nuffin. Anyone have an idea? --[[User:Southpaw018|Southpaw018|talk]] 16:12, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

PS: Sorry for the triple edit, folks. I wasn't logged in and then my sig ended up elsewhere on the page ;) --[[User:Southpaw018|Southpaw018|talk]] 16:14, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

Well, I feel like it should be STUFF'D at least for being phrased as a question. Maybe I'll do that in a moment. In addition, I know that those phrases are famous, but I'm not sure they were used collectively in any speech. I think they may just be clich賠of hard times. But I don't know for sure. --Vannav 18:30, 29 Nov 2004 (EST)

The "brother against brother" part is a cliche American Civil War line, the rest, I'm not too sure about. - Dr Haggis - Talk 17:05, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
The "babies havin' babies" line is used by many an old folk nowadays upon seeing a young mother. Say, 16-year-old high school student with a 5-month-old child. Babies, having babies. It's funny. --Bellatrix 18:22, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
Yeah, I certainly couldn't find anything regarding the Civil Rights movement that involved this quote. I've removed it from the page. I also didn't like how it read "might possibly have come from a famous speech...but not for certain." Though as noted by Drhaggis, the "brother pitted against brother" part is common of American Civil War discussions. -- Tom 22:00, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

I hate to be cynical, but after reading this wiki for a few weeks it seems like people are trying to make a reference out of every joke in Homestar. The line "It is a time of desolation, chaos and uncertainty. Brother pitted against brother; babies havin' babies" isn't in reference to anything, it's just silly. I mean, we live in a society, which means that we're constantly borrowing from what's already been done, but I think that it's being over-analyzed in cases like this. For a better discussion of the issues, see the South Park episode, "The Simpsons Already Did It" ;) -- 24.21.86.243 13:15, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)

IT IS A REFERNCE, however to something different than what others might have said. This seems as a reference to "Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome, which describes a time of desolation with brother pitted against brother. The Babies havin' babies is just an extension of that.

By that logic, it could be a reference to WAAAY too many things.
I say we change it to "it's a common phrase for certain wars" and leave it at that, or drop it all together. We don't know what specifically it is a reference to, considering how broad it is, so why keep it? --Shadow Hog 20:03, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)

Subject Lines, etc.

  • This is the first email in which we are shown the subject line. Also, this is the first email to have all the functions of a real email program (reply button, forward button, subject display), except for weird dream.

We might have to wait until next week, but these could just be new features of the Lappy. So, is this a fun fact? (I'll copy it over to STUFF, so please reply there.) --oddtodd 21:25, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

Horns

  • Not sure where to put this, but I noticed that one of the characteristics Strong Bad lists of his creature is "horns," but the picture shows antlers, which are completely different from horns.

Also, the creature doesn't have power doors. ;) FireLily

Three Voices

Is this the first time we've heard all three people lend their voices to any toon? (I mean, of course, Matt Chapman, Mike Chapman, and Missy Palmer.) --oddtodd 17:57, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)

Probably not. Mike does a lot of undercover voices.--porplemontage 05:03, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

Speculation?

"This might be the farthest that Strong Bad has ever taken an e-mail sender's grammar mistake."

This seems more like subjective rather than objective info. Besides, what about "Homsar"? I'm pretty sure he's taking that email mistake pretty far, making a regular character out of it and everything. And now you'll probably argue that that's a SPELLING mistake and not a GRAMMAR one, but, eh. Can we STUFF this? --Bellatrix 21:20, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)

Fun Facts Arguing With Each Other

We have fun facts here that refute other fun facts. This is very, very bad - a page is giving contradicting information to the viewer. I almost deleted the facts that are being refuted, but given that these facts are listed in STUFF, I'm not sure I'm allowed to do this (even though they have decline votes). Should anyone remove STUFFed fun facts, or only certain users? --Tim333

Dissing Strong Bad's Vocabulary

Who is dissing Strong Bad's vocabulary in these fun facts repeatedly? It seems condesending and somewhat stupid.

Be darned if I know, but to whoever it is, please: stop. He doesn't have a limited vocabulary. He just has a habit of sometimes using words in the wrong way, often for the sake of humor. So please stop adding it in, we're tired of editing it out. --Shadow Hog 18:44, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)

Lappy Startup Noise

There have already been two mentions of the Lappy's startup noise in the Fun Facts section and I thought it would become even more convoluted if we continue to cotradict each other in an article (shouldn't that be moved to STUFF anyway, or at least here?), however I wanted to ask people's opinion on the possibility that the startup noise is a truncated version of the part of "Also Sprach Zarathustra" used in 2001: A Space Odyssey. Is that too much of a stretch?

I think it's actually a variation of the old Macintosh startup sounds from the 90s. -Nemesis
Way too much of a stretch. The Lappy startup noise is two notes an octave apart, which has been used in plenty of places, the original Game Boy for instance. (A reference to Zarathustra would probably take at least five notes.) Mister Mister 08:42, 4 Feb 2005 (MST)

The Red-Steckled Elbermung

The illustration of the Red-Steckled Elbermung seems to be in the same drawing style as Lem Sportsinterviews's book "Everyone is Different."--DJ Samurai 07:52, 4 Feb 2005 (MST)

Foster's reference?

The final of Strong Bad's made-up animals, Sterrance, could be a reference to Terrance, the evil bully-of-a-brother of Mac, the main charactor of the Cartoon Network show, Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends (http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/fosters/index.html). Sterrance is blue, which could be areference to "Bloo", another one of the show's main characters.

I don't see any similarity. — InterruptorJones[[]] 07:54, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
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Let's take it to tha next *clüb.*

Out of curiosity, how likely is it (and how STUFF'Dworthy is it to mention) that the woman on SB's back deck is the same woman from the 'Lectric Boots box in extra plug? On the one hand, they're both blonde, with blue clothes and red shoes; on the other hand, the Boots girl is wearing a shirt and capris while the Fangly Fish girl is wearing a dress. And sunglasses. Azure Haights 23:27, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

Well, since they're two totally different drawing styles, the best you could assume was that they are two drawings of the same woman - but since it just appears to be a generic blonde woman, I'd say it's a pretty big stretch. The fact that they both have red shoes and wear blue (as you noted, not the same clothes) doesn't make it any less of a stretch for me. --BaconSandwich 00:40, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
Fair enough. Although I figured, since we can presume they're both portrayed in some sort of *clüb*... Azure Haights 10:52, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
Furthermore (okay, okay, I'll shut up after this one!), now that I notice it, the SBEMAIL! video put the Powered by the Cheat woman on the Club Technochocolate floor. Like, 4 times over. Azure Haights 00:26, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

Closed STUFF

Baby Doll Crazy Dance (DECLINED)

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

  • Accept: Looks good to go
  • Good to go my eye. Decline, unless you can Revise this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --Shadow Hog 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Revise/Weak Decline -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on Main Page 13, as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --Zonath 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Severe Decline. If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →evin290 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Comment I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --oopsyoubwokeit 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Der Klein Find out what the game is, and maybe this'll work. Until then, don't waste our time, especially if you only THINK it's a reference. Rudeboy87 16:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Sprechen'd. --Beatfox 02:14, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 02:31, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Off-screen typing (Accepted as a rewrite)

Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

  • Neutral Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. Kamek 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Accept ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --TheEggman 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
      • Comment. This happens again in best thing, when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --TheEggman
  • Accept Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. Tim333
  • Rewrite. How's-about...
Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.
--Upsilon
  • Decline I don't even know what they're talking about. --Clever Ben
    • That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --Upsilon
  • Comment. More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --MadEwokHerd 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.
  • Accepterific Kvb 15:07, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
  • ACCEPT'D! Kiwi 10:49, 16 Apr 2005 (EST)

Just me being picky (Declinded)

The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

  • Accept. --J to the sag
  • Neutral Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --Tim333
  • Accept. There's something wrong with this. --The Real Zajac 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Accept but Move. It's definitely odd, but put this on Lappy 486 unless things change next email. -- Mithent 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Comment. The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --MadEwokHerd 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See rock opera - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --TheEggman 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Standing too close to you in Decline --User: Lappy 486
  • Decline. Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- tomstiff 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- tomstiff 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about. --Gooblies 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Second'd! Cheatachu72 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline.It's dot com 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Fanglyfish (Accepted as a rewrite)

The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the anglerfish. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.

  • STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --Jay 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite. "Though Strong Bad wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an angelerfish, he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. Fizz to the 123
  • Accept but rewrite I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. -- User: Lappy 486
  • Rewrite. "Strong Bad's 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world anglerfish. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --Beatfox 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Accept but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."TK600 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Rewrite. I like the part about only female anglerfish having the lights and lures. It's actually interesting. But the fact's kind of bloated right now. Crystallina 20:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

TBC Know about the Wiki!

If you've watched the commentary, TBC mention reading a goof on the Wiki! I never thought they would know about it, but to mention it! (okay, I got a little overboard there, I'm just really excited because TBC know about the wiki now.) Imwithcrazy

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