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Initial Reaction

After two weeks, we finally get a new e-mail. 'origins' not only discusses The Stick, but the disappearance of Mr. Bland and Senor and why Strong Sad has a belly-button. Hilarious stuff. Keep up the good work, TBC.

Also, I can't get Homestar's bread song outta my head.

  • Heh, I like Matt's "Little Strong Bad" voice.

Ban

Can someone ban the guy thats trashing the transcript?

The drill and Strong Sad

So we know how Strong Sad got his belly button, Strong Bad drilled it in. Then there's the fact that the drill noise last appeared in privileges, where you can overhear The Cheat doing something to Strong Sad with a drill. Coincidence? I don't think so. --DJ Samurai 06:11, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)

Strong bads parents

Are "mentioned" (though granted not explicitily by the brothers chaps, but they did pick the email) in the Cheat's bday email.

So? That wasn't the first mention of them, though they've never appeared. I hope you're not intending to add this as a Fun Fact. --Jay 14:26, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
Oh, I get it. It was a poorly-thought-out Fact that needed to be DELETED!!! Okay, yeah, the Strong Folks have been referred to before. --Jay 14:31, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
Strong Dad and Strong Mom, eh? Where were they mentioned? I don't remember that. --Moldorma
The Secrets That I Keep, the facts, one email in cheatday (as mentioned) and likely many others. --Jay 14:47, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)

Moleskin

"Moleskine is a brand of pocket notebooks and sketch pads popular among trend-following artists and writers. Strong Sad mistakenly pronounces it "mole skin", whereas the correct pronunciation is "mol-a-skeen'-a"." What exactly is mole skin? It's some sort of product that can be found at pharmacies and the like, but does anyone have an exact definition? It may be noteworthy for the above fun fact. --Ogog

The "moleskin" you're thinking of, Ogog, is just a cotton fabric. I don't know why it's called moleskin and I'm too lazy to do the research, but I assure you contains no actual mole flesh, and has nothing to do with Moleskine notebooks. — InterruptorJones[[]] 19:27, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)

Curses, you cut me to the swift, Ogog! Moleskine. -- zuzu

Yeah, I knew it had nothing to do with the notebooks, but I was thinking it might just be relevant for the fun fact. i.e., "Strong Sad pronounces it as "moleskin," which is a type of cotton fabric." --Ogog
Moleskin is a thick fabric you use to pad blisters and abraded areas of skin to prevent further damage. --Tim333

The moon

The way the moon looks in the scene with Marzipan and Homsar being glued together reminds me of Day of the Tentacle. Or Sam and Max...sadly I can't play the games right now to confirm it...

The Blinking CD

Okay, I agree that the blinking CD fact has to go on the page SOMEWHERE, but it seems no one can agree where. Is it a Remark? A Goof? Should it go next to the Easter Egg? Let's try to get some general consensus. --Jay 16:44, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

"Just weird is all." -- Cyrius 20:19, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
This would be a perfect reason to create a "Miscellaneous" section, wouldn't you agree? It's not much of a remark, we can't guarantee this wasn't intended (ie: it isn't a goof), and putting it by the Easter Egg doesn't seem very... Easter Eggy to me. Really, a Miscellaneous section is practically necessary here. --Shadow Hog 21:02, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
On second thought, just slap it into Trivia. That much we can guarantee it is. --Shadow Hog 21:10, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
Actually, there IS a "miscellaneous" section, it just isn't called that. You may know it better as Remarks. Personally, I think either Remarks or Goofs, but so long as we can reach some sort of consensus and not have in fifty different places on the page, it works for me. --Jay 20:28, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)

I would just leave it in the description of the Sing-along Easter Egg. It isn't a "Fun Fact" at all, and if it weren't part of an easter egg, i would say it only belongs in the transcript. -LuigiHann

How exactly is it not a fun fact? --Shadow Hog 14:57, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
'cos it's pretty mundane.
Whatever. I still say it goes in "Trivia". --Shadow Hog 17:04, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
I'm with Shadow Hog on this one. Next to the Easter Egg it just feels clumsy. And this is no less a "Fun Fact" than most of the other entries in the column. --Jay 20:28, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)

Y'see, this is why I'm against Fun Facts seperation.

Well, Mr. Anonymous, you seem to be the only person on the Wiki to feel that way, and you certainly did not speak up at all when I was proposing the changes. --Jay 20:28, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)

D'oh! I swear, it feels like this site is changing so fast, it doesn't even seem like the Wiki I know anymore...

It's not like I split Fun Facts last night or something. I proposed it, I re-proposed it, and I proposed it again, and finally (several weeks ago) I just went and changed all the email articles and (until just now) NOBODY complained! --Jay 13:01, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)

I was the one who put this fun fact on here. The reason I originally put it on goofs instead of remarks is because a CD is an inanimate object, and therefor even in flash it shouldn't blink. I would consider that a "goof." I guess it could also go under "remarks." I definitely don't think it should go under "trivia" though... →evin290 12:20, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

I don't known if this was intentional or not, but it seem a tad obvious, and who knowns if CDs covers can move by themselves in Homestar's world.

P.S. TBC can stop Homestar from blinking; see Main Page 19. --Trogga 18:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

Strong Mad line

I'm hearing Strong Mad's line as, "WHAT GRACE!", not "LUNCH BREAK!" Given the Cheat's recital, I think "what grace" makes more sense. Any other thoughts? -- FortyTwo 22:05, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

Well, I certainly don't want us changing it back and forth. Today I hear "LUNCH BREAK", but that's just me. -- Tom 22:59, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

What about "THAT'S GREAT!" That's what I heard.--DJ Samurai 06:07, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)

I listened closely and must concur with 42: "WHAT GRACE!" Though I thought it was LUNCH BREAK at first too. --Jay 01:10, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)

I weirdly hear it as: "IT'S BREAD!" or something. -oopsyoubwokeit

I just watched and I'm with DJ Samurai -- Short Circuit

I too heard ' "THAT'S GREAT!" -Helios Rex

I heard "NOT GREAT!" (Ya'know, good but not great.) Giving him a reason to eat the cheats chain whip. Total Spaceship Guy3

Heck no!

To me it sounds like "Heck no-it-all!" but the community seems to lean towards "Heck no at all" - Dr Haggis - Talk 23:21, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)

"Heck no at all" makes considerably more sense (though both characters say it fast enough that your version is at least feasible). And it's absolutely not "Heck no et al", as 203.122.209.127 keeps trying to make it. --Jay 00:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
In the context, it's definitely "Heck no at all". Without context, we couldn't make sense out of much of spoken language. --BaconSandwich 05:12, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
Agreed. — InterruptorJones[[]] 07:40, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
I heard it as "Heck no at all," but part of the joke being that it's said with the same inflection of "know-it-all." TBC do a lot of phrases that almost sound like something familiar (for example, "Thank you, and tonight"). Of course, explaining that takes away from the joke. ;-) -- FortyTwo 08:43, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
Or, more simply, they say cool things that're almost ONE phrase and NOT QUITE another. --Shadow Hog 09:34, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
Indeed. What the crap is "Heck no et al" supposed to MEAN, anyway? That's just nonsense. --Shadow Hog 09:34, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
Et al is a very common expression, similar in meaning to "Et cetera". I can see where the poster is coming from, and syntactically it works fine, it just doesn't happen to be what Strong Sad actually says. — InterruptorJones[[]] 11:32, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
Well, no, "Et al" means "and others", and is usually used to mean "And other people"; as in "This book was written by Lem Sportsinterviews et al". "Heck no and other people" (or even "Heck no and others") simply makes no sense even from a H*R point of view. It may be similar in construct to etc. but the two are not interchangeable. And this has been your useless information of the day. --Jay 00:39, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

St8k

There's got to be a better way to illustrate the way st8k would actually be pronounced other than "Stateke" That would probably sound like "Sta-teek" or "State-kuh" or something. I say that "Staytk" would be a better way to show the pronunciation of it. Or maybe "Statk (with a long a sound)" What do you guys think? →evin290 08:31, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

Whaddaya Think of This? - me

Image:Bread_Sucks.JPG {image deleted}

Hey, that's pretty good! Put it in Fanstuff Media and show it to people! --thatkidsam 13:02, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

I can't see the file. --Oopsyoubwokeit 22:07, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

The image was deleted some time ago. I'll de-link it and leave a note. --DorianGray

Fingernails

I got a question; Is this the first time SB appeared to have finger nails? unknown

'Tis just an inside joke, the file. Such an event happens as Strong Bad is flipping someone off in that older email answered on Pom Pom's Pocket PC, and everyone else joining in, and they are able to see each other, so no one is affected by the lack of visible fingers. -Helios Rex

Closed STUFF

Cut the Crusts (ACCEPTED)

In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

  • Decline. The tune is not the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -166.102.250.139 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
  • Accept, um, sorta In the Strong Bad Email Band Names, Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
  • Accept Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.Fizz123
    • Comment from original poster Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -162.39.226.54 (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
  • Umm... Guys, this fact is still on the page...
    • Comment. You can fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --Beatfox 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept.Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
    • Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: ACCEPT, YA DIG?!TK600 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --SaikoRoxi 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
  • Umm, this looks like a winner. --

Face the Camera (DECLINED)

This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

  • Decline. "One of the..." Is a no-no. Kvb 13:03, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --Beatfox 21:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 14:57, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
  • You being threatened with a DECLINE I don't think this is even worthy of being noticed, it is stupid. >:P --User: Lappy 486 8:00 Apr 26

Señor & Mr.Bland (DECLINED)

Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of Marshmallow's Last Stand. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

  • Decline. You have to remember that ths is from Strong Bad's point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. Fizz123
  • Comment Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. Fizz123
  • DECLINE'D! Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. Kiwi
  • I decline thee! *smack* Homsar came back after being crushed by Heavy Lourde. Kvb 16:08, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. If you applied this to TGS, they wouldn't have lasted 8 issues! -- tomstiff 16:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • I dunno abput this one... it is true, but the way it is said, i just don't know. --user: lappy 486
  • Decline, decline, this fun fact, this fun fact. Declining so smoooooooth, how else would I react? Look at the Teen Girl Squad. They die almost every issue, but they come back for more the next episode. -- Posted by: -erson Talk 12:44, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

"STRONG BAD: {producing the power drill} You want another belly button there, Harry Elephanté?"

Am I the only one who thought he said Hairy Elephanté?

It sounded that way to me, and I thought that it sounded like more of an insult that way.

Quote of the day: outtake from origins

I firmly believe that the quote "Ugh! Why do you...guys...like me anymore? I-Iv'e lost it." displayed as a Quote of the Day or so is a removed post-sequence, meant to have been part of the semi-scene that comes after the paper arrives. If not, it may be a scene out of a late Easter Egg designed for the word Lotionman or some such word typed. For example, the On Point Kings may have been hanging out, and Strong Bad may have lost his ability to...be on point. Anyway, the cartoon has a lack of "post-paper" Easter eggs. I think that this apparent outtaken quote is from such an object. -Helios Rex

British spelling I think not

Re: The last line in remarks 'curiousity' is not a British spelling, it is a misspelling. Both the British and American spellings of 'curious' and 'curiosity' are identical.

Dirty Hairy

Shouldn't Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "Harry Elephante" be "Hairy Elephante?" I mean, it still works and its crueller to SS. Isn't that what SB would want?

Please read the following fun fact:
  • "Harry Elephante" is a reference to famous calypso musician Harry Belafonte. A similar joke was made in the Friends episode entitled "The One After The Super Bowl," when Ross (David Schwimmer) mentions that his monkey's favorite toy is named "Harry Elephante".
Elcool (talk)(contribs) 13:54, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Yeh, i read that but i was wondering if it could be seen as "Hairy Elephante". I suppose not. Meh, i was tired.

The gift tag?

If anybody's even watching this page anymore, I think whoever Strong Bad's drill came from should be a trivia. I'm thinking it says Mom & Dad?

Also, can someone tell me on my talk page how to decompile/look at the Flash file, so I can look at things like this more closely? -- Dragoon5464 08:52, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

The tag is mentioned in the transcript:
[...] a white present with a blue ribbon and a tag reading 'To Strong Bad From Mom or Dad'. [...]
The easiest way to get a closer look at stuff like this is to install Firefox and Greasemonkey, then you can use my Homestar Greasemonkey script that, among many other things, lets you zoom in on the action (hit the + and - buttons in the lower right) --phlip TC 09:28, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

HAL

Regarding this edit, I was able to confirm that such a computer voice did exist: "I've seen ATL come a long way. Anyone else remember when they first put the underground train in? I used to crack up at the ghetto computerized voice saying "Please move to the center of the vehicle and away from the doors" all robotic-like." [1] But I couldn't confirm the name "HAL" and I assume that that's just a nickname that should be removed from the fact. Can I have a witness? Loafing 02:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

See also my question here. — It's dot com 02:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
The airport is called the "Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport" so the "HA" part could be for "Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta", just a thought... dunno about the L... hmmm... "Languageator"...? "HAL the Languageator! Languageating the airportside, Languageating the travelers! Languageating all the peoples in the &mdash Beep! — Defender1031*Talk 02:43, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Transcript small edit

I'm pretty sure SB says STRONG BAD: {voiceover; Homestar keeps peeking out around the bread slice} We sure sniped that problem right between the eyes from three hundred yards by scheduling The Cheat's rhythmic chain dancing recitals to the same time and place. Any objections? If not, I will change the transcript and subtitles. Let me know, Dutchscout 04:56, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

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