User talk:Fun Facts Avenger

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Rock, Rock On, Mr. Avenger! May your mouse be responsive and your connection swift. - Dr Haggis - Talk 00:54, 7 Jan 2005 (MST)

I don't get it

I can see categorizing the Fun Facts, but your categorizing seems totally arbitrary (I like this Fun Fact, so it gets a gold star. I don't like this one, so I'm putting it in the "Other things of interest" category.) And why did you give a star to the "fun fact" in part-time job speculating the meaning behind the buttons on Mrs. Bennedetto?! It didn't even belong on the part-time job page in the first place! --Jay 01:19, 7 Jan 2005 (MST)

1. I just checked the "Broaster" part, I don't mind that you removed it
2. This is a wiki, and we've needed a gold star system for a while. I choose the things I like to give a star, but I don't own the star. Remove it, fine. We need fewer "Fun Facts". Fun Facts Avenger 01:23, 7 Jan 2005 (MST)

I suppose it didn't come off right, but I kinda meant to ask, "Is there any pattern to what does or does not get a star?" --Jay 01:26, 7 Jan 2005 (MST)

Well, I'm using the outline given in the STUFF page, but being a little more restrictive. Basically, I'm interesting in verifying the factuality of certain FFs (what the star's for), and moving boring facts into the "Other things of interest" section. Fun Facts Avenger 01:29, 7 Jan 2005 (MST)

Regarding fun facts, we need to err on the side of incompleteness rather than inaccuracy. Meaning it is better to delete questionable facts or notes rather than let them obscure the "choice cuts". I think the STUFF system is bloated and sloppy, and these Gold Stars are a little arbitrary, but I am glad we are moving towards community standards and procedures. - Dr Haggis - Talk 01:31, 7 Jan 2005 (MST)

Therein lies the problem. What solution should we take? I have my own ideas about making the pages a bit more readable while still letting people submit iffy Fun Facts - specifically, separating Fun Facts into smaller sub-sections (a little like was done in radio) - but the iffy Facts would still be there. And the separation really ought to be more objective than what is "boring", I'm afraid. --Jay 01:40, 7 Jan 2005 (MST)

Yes, I've been told that before, but unfortunately IMHO something has to be done. I don't have time to record what is "boring" and what isn't, but I hope we can agree that "This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse" is boring. I mean, it's a Wiki. It'll work out, and things will be moved back and forth. Fun Facts Avenger

Well, there's always my idea. If we can't remove all the "boring" Fun Facts, we can at least split them up:

Inside References - References to previous Homestar cartoons

To be continued... - Small things (like the blinking 12:00 VCR clock or somesuch) that get referenced in later cartoons. Yeah, I know I'm the opponent of Forward Referencing, but if you can't beat 'em...

Real-World References - References to things outside of Homestar

Trivia - First appearances, odd quirks in the presentation, etc. If not for the fact that Marzipan's purse has only been seen once (to my knowledge) and thus barely merits the mention even with the division, this would be where that fact would go.

Explanations - Where all the iffy stuff goes, more likely than not. Anything explaning something non-obvious (like WSBD in radio) but isn't a reference.

Inside Jokes and Running Gags - Very much optional, but it's an idea.

Naturally, not all of these would be included for every e-mail. --Jay 01:47, 7 Jan 2005 (MST)

IMO, the vast majority of references people submit are completely subjective, and probably not what TBC intended. An exception would be the Inside Reference you mention, such as in Homestar Presents: Presents, when Strong Sad refers to being locked in the tub the previous year. I would file everything else under "Other things of interest" or some other subheading. Fun Facts Avenger

You say "subjective", I say "BS". Something is a reference or it is not. I admit: very many references that people submit are total BS. That doesn't mean they all are. The BS ones should be STUFF'd (if the page survives) or deleted, but that goes for all Fun Facts no matter what. --Jay 01:53, 7 Jan 2005 (MST)