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Technical help

How to add images

Here's a quick rundown of how to add images:

  1. If you haven't already, read the image use policy. Note that the PNG format is preferred.
  2. Over in the toolbox on the left, click Upload file.
  3. (A) Browse to the file on your computer.
    (B) Write a brief description in the summary area.
    (C) Click the copyright checkbox.
    (D) Click "Upload file".
  4. Place code on your page in the following format, usually at the very top of the page (although you can place it in other places):
    [[Image:IMAGE NAME|thumb and/or POSITION|SIZE|CAPTION]]

To make an image gallery, use the wollowing format:

<gallery>
Image:image1.png|caption 1
Image:image2.png|caption 2
Image:image3.png|caption 3
</gallery>

Start each picture on a new line. You can use links and full wiki markup in the captions.

Click on these links here for a tutorial and more technical info and syntax info. HRWiki policy allows one uploaded image per user with no questions asked. For an example, I placed the following code at the top of your page: [[Image:cheatgold.PNG|thumb|300px|I've got a gold tooth. Wanna see it? Tough!]]
That's all. Have fun! — It's dot com 22:33, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanx a bunch for telling me how to add images and adding an image and all that crap. Love your page. Cheatachu72
Anytime, my friend. It's my pleasure. And thanks for your comments about my page. — It's dot com 21:56, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

How to revert a page

  • YO! I do like what you did to my gallery, but I'd like to revert it for the time being. I do want to change it to your suggestion in the future, though. But, um, how do you revert? Cheatachu72 02:56, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It was more complicated than normal to revert your page since you had already made changes to it. Here are some basic instructions on how to revert:
To completely revert a page to a previous version:
  1. View the history of the page in question.
  2. Click on the time and date of the version to which you want to revert; this will bring up the page as it was.
  3. Click "edit" at the top of the old version; it will warn you that you're editing an out-of-date version.
  4. Type a comment in the summary, usually something like "reverted edit of so-and-so; changed to last version by what's her face".
  5. Click "Save page".
To revert a page and keep some changes at the same time:
  1. View the history of the page in question.
  2. Determine what changes have been made since the version to which you want to revert.
  3. Copy the affected section to the clipboard. If there is more than one section, it may be necessary to do a normal revert (see above) and then make the changes again one at a time in later edits.
  4. In the page history, click on the time and date of the version to which you want to revert; this will bring up the page as it was.
  5. Click "edit" at the top of the old version; it will warn you that you're editing an out-of-date version.
  6. From the clipboard, paste in the new changes over the appropriate old section.
  7. Type a comment in the summary.
  8. Click "Show preview" to ensure that you pasted the new changes in correctly.
  9. Click "Save page".
In the section way above, I've included the syntax for the image gallery for whenever you want to go back to that. — It's dot com 03:48, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thanx. One more helpful thing you can either
A. Strong Mad Bath
B. Crisper Drawer
C. Be Cheatachu72's homeslice
Cheatachu72 03:17, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I'll take (C). — It's dot com 03:48, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Where to link characters

I had a question. On the page for monster truck, should "The Sad kids" and "The King of town" in the transcript be changed to include links to thier respective pages? FYI, the sentence that would be changed is "{The Sad Kids and the King of Town appear on screen respectively crossed out}". —Smileyface11945

No. Characters are never linked in the transcript. Instead, they are listed at the top of the page in the order in which they appear. Also, whenever you post something on a talk page, type four tildes after it, like this: "~~~~". That will automatically sign your name and put a timestamp after it. It looks like this: — It's dot com 01:06, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! Smileyface11945 01:08, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)
No probalo! — It's dot com 01:09, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

How to make the vertical line to appear

How do you make this vertical line appear? | It's used in a lot of links in the wiki, like this, but if I want to use the line, I always have to copy it from somewhere else. Can you press certain keys to make it appear? The Chort 14:11, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

It should be on your keyboard. Mine's above the enter key. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 14:30, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Hmm...let's see: | Hey, it worked! Thank you! You're my new best friend at this wiki! The Chort 14:33, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

No probalo... Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 14:34, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I'm glad I could bring you two closer together. I have nothing useful to say here, but since this is my talk page, I feel compelled to comment. The character The Chort is speaking of is called the vertical bar, or pipe. It is used in wiki markup to create piped links, tables, and other things. As Amanda (H*C) said, the key is usually located at the extreme right of the keyboard, just above the Enter (return) key, grouped with the backslash. On some keyboard configurations, the key is on the top row, just to the left of the Backspace (in this case the Enter key is about double its customary size and the Backspace is about half its normal size). To type a vertical bar, you must hold the Shift key. Well, I hope you enjoyed my short essay. I now return you to the wiki. — It's dot com 15:46, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

STUFF reform

The note

Here's the note you requested. HRWiki:IRC_channel? -- Tom 17:30, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I for the instructions, I have this:

{Tom's code moved here: User:It's dot com/instructions code}

You need to fix up Section II, since I have no idea what's going on there. (And quite possibily sections I and III as well.) You also might want to check out some of the bulleted points in the things to consider section for when you write up the instructions. Well, good luck. -- Tom 18:58, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

STUFF help

I would be glad to help you out Dot Com. I'm bored and I'm really digging what you are doing here. Keep up the good work. -- Tony Stony

On an aside note, when the time comes will you need help turning all of the current STUFF'd facts to your format? If so lemmie know and I can help you out. When do you think the big change might occur? -- Tony Stony
I'm shooting for the middle of this week. Maybe there won't be a new toon this week. That would help. — It's dot com 00:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Looks like you're about ready to make this happen. I would also be willing to help you and Tony with the big change, if you so desire. You know, taking what's currently in STUFF and putting it on the new page. There's a lot of them there. Just let me know. --Some HSR themed username 03:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I welcome any help I can get. I don't know the best way to go about it. I figure we'll have to temporarily close the STUFF page so that people aren't trying to edit it while we're converting it. Also, I want to open the format up for others to test. I'm trying to get that done tonight. I think the format is really easy to use, but I made it, so there could be problems I'm not seeing. I'll leave you a note on your talk page when I have more to report, which shouldn't be too long from now. — It's dot com 03:48, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
In case you didn't notice, I've discovered what is causing the problem in STUFF. Not external links in and of themselves (notice that "The Legend of Credits" has an external link.) It's the fact that there was an equal sign in one of the links. Try plugging a random equal sign into any fact (link or no) and see what happens. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 07:59, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

If you're looking for a response as to the new STUFF's simplicity, I would say it is pretty easy if you follow the directions. I do have a suggestion, though. For the how to revise page you have the entire template out for cutting and pasting, but the initial template setup has the optional things on parts of it. It might make it easier to take the optional notes and the false user votes off of that template so it's easy to cut and paste the entire thing. That's what I think anyway. Other than that, I think the new system is great. --Some HSR themed username 19:27, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I went ahead an implemented everything, including Protecting all the templates and DELETING!! all the test pages I could think of. If there are others I missed, feel free to TBD them. I ended up erasing a lot of old Verdicted facts on the old STUFF page - dig through the history if you really feel you need them. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 07:42, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

New STUFF Verdicts

The new STUFF looks prooty good! One little quibble: it appears that the original posting dates were not included when the open STUFFs were ported. My real question is: how should a VERDICT'D STUFF look? -- tomstiff 13:12, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The date thing was my fault. Anyway, I guess that a VERDICT should be another template or two, and should be put in place of the arguments and votes. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 17:02, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I fixed the dates. For verdicts, we can either move the items to the talk pages (like we do now), or they could be moved to a different subpage, like HRWIKI:STUFF Archive/pagename, for example. If we use an archive subpage, we should put a reference link on the talk page with the fact in question and the verdict.
As items close, they should definitely be moved somewhere. Otherwise, if down the line someone STUFFs something new from a page, all the old, closed facts will still be there. Once a template subpage is empty (all the facts have closed), the template subpage should be deleted. — It's dot com 17:13, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The rest of this discussion has moved to HRWiki_talk:STUFF#Verdicts.

<3

My ace in the hole. You rock. Good prize. —BazookaJoe 06:15, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well, thank you! (But what specifically are you referring to? And what does "less than three" mean in this context?)It's dot com 06:18, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Haha, "less than three" in this context means, "Yay! Heart!" This is just a random compliment for you. You know, because you're always cool. —BazookaJoe 06:25, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Of course! Now I see. (I'm not a big emoticon user myself, so you'll have to forgive my ignorance here.) And thanks for the encouraging words! Great jaerb on the Biz Cas Fri 1 transcript. It's always fun to help on those (especially since I rarely get the chance to do one — they're always done so quickly after a toon is released). Keep up the good troll fightin' recent patrollin' wiki gnomin' work! — It's dot com 06:38, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I already congraturated you once, but way to go, again, STUFF guru! -BazookaJoe 01:45, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

As always, you are welcome. Just curious, what made you think to say that this time? — It's dot com 01:46, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Well, I was sitting in Recent Changes... and just looking at the two jillion STUFF edits you make every two jillion seconds. That's very cool. -BazookaJoe 01:48, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Ha ha, it feels like that sometimes. The way I look at it, since I stirred up the waters by coming up with the format, I have an obligation to keep it as well-oiled as possible, and so I do a lot of maintenance on items, even if I don't actually participate in every vote. — It's dot com 01:52, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)
And well-oiled it is. -BazookaJoe 01:57, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

STUFF query

Hey It's dot com, I just noticed that one of bottom 10's STUFF entries is not ever going to succeed due to the author's mistake. (The Knott's Berry Farm one) It is not true, and will not get a single acceptance vote. I just thought it might be best to close that one now and save everybody time. On that note, I have also noticed that you are the only one who ever closes STUFFed facts, and was wondering if you wanted a hand with that. I am willing to help you out if you want me to.
Forever Young, small_logo.pngUsername-talk 20:17, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

To tell the truth, I don't mind doing it at all; it's fun. But others are of course welcome to do it (this is a wiki, after all); and certainly you should at least know how. (It's not difficult, but it is involved. The instructions are here.) I dunno, like I've said to BazookaJoe, since I made up the format, I feel responsible for making sure all the gears mesh and turn like they're supposed to. — It's dot com 20:49, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
P.S. I took care of that item like you suggested.

Anonymous STUFFing

Okay, it's one thing to say that Anonnies can't VOTE in STUFF facts. It's another entirely to say that they can't CREATE facts; I'd taken it for granted that they could. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 18:18, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

The rules state: "You may only edit arguments while logged in." I would think that extends to creating items. If a user cares enough about an item, he can log in to create it. If an item truly is important, a logged-in user has probably already made it anyway. As for this particular item, it was such a stretch that it would have been deleted outright from the page. If you truly feel, however, that it needs to go through the process, resubmit it anew (but I've got a thousand dollars I would bet as to how the verdict will end up). — It's dot com 18:26, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Well, I don't disagree that it was a waste of space. I was more thinking about future reference—if someone actually adds a fact worth STUFFing. I suppose the only safeguards we had specified for unlogged users were votes and editing pre-existing arguments (it doesn't specifically say that unlogged users can't add facts or arguments) so I wanted clarification. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 18:44, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
I'll admit, I threw it out on a technicality. A technicality I would probably overlook if it had any merit at all. The last couple of days it seems like people are abusing the STUFF page, STUFFing the most trivial bits of nothing. I was trying to make an example of something that clearly deserved to get the ax, to try and nip this in the bud. — It's dot com 18:52, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Fair enough. For example, I completely deleted a false "Fact" yesterday (regarding The Cheat's bendable arms never appearing before outside of Cheat Commandos, in spite of the fact that they'd been seen in caper and virus), so imagine my surprise today to find that it had been re-added (albeit prematurely Verdicted). Was it the same guy? How could multiple people make that mistake? And, as a result of your previous comments, I modified the "Add a toon/Add an item/Revise an item" instructions; now, all three say that you must be logged in. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 18:56, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
"Early," not "premature." When several users find multiple instances that directly contradict an item, it is patently false and therefore not worth our time. — It's dot com 18:59, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Er, maybe my wording was a bit confusing, but I already knew that. I tend to refer to facts as "prematurely closed" when they're closed early no matter what the reason—even if I was the one who did it. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 19:03, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Ah, I see. I took it in the sense of "before it should have been", but "before normal" works too. — It's dot com

Thundercolor

Hey Dot com. I noticed you gave me a color pointer on my talk page, which I'm greatful for. But what I didn't get was your pick? Which is your favorite? Thanks, ?Thunderbird? 03:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

My favorite is the one that's the easiest to read: #CD9B1D — It's dot com
Oh, my bad. You were there. Sorry 'bout that. I think it was because of the two different styles of sig, or something. I dunno. I need more sleep... ?Thunderbird? 14:43, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
No probalo. — It's dot com 15:45, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

WikiTroll

Hey, It's dot com. Just letting you know that you don't have to add to WikiTroll if the user has already been blocked. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 19:27, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Well, I started adding him, and then I got called away from my computer, and by the time I got back you had already blocked him. I did notice this, but since it's such a hassle to add somebody to the table (what with making a list of all their evil edits and whatnot) and since I had already gone to the trouble, I just hit "Save page" anyway. Plus, I figured if he did it again, there would already be a record there. (And yes, I know there's the blocked log.) So that's why. — It's dot com 19:45, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Oh, I see. Sorry to bug you then. :) Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 19:50, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)
No probalo. Besides, I like getting comments. — It's dot com 19:56, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Okay! Bother bother bother bother bother bother bother! [1] Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 20:25, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Whoa, weeeeird. Funny, though. I especially liked the part where they busted out their M-16s to dispatch You-Know-Who. At Barnes & Noble, you can reserve a place in line, which I did, and I'm in the first group, so I will be one of the first thirty to get a book tonight at midnight. My contribs may be way down for a couple of days. — It's dot com 21:17, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)
I'm getting mine tomorrow, via Amazon. And yes, I know weird links. Far too many weird links... ;) Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 21:22, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)
I'll miss you two while you are lost in that other realm of fantasy. Have fun reading, BazookaJoe
Hold down the fort for us, BazookaJoe. Actually, I know you will... You're, like, always here. You're doing an awesome job, man. (But seriously, don't forget to see what the sun looks like every now and then. ;) ) — It's dot com
I have been very bored this summer, and have had nothing to do but wiki. I'll be on a lot less once I start my job in a week or two. The Potter Puppet Pals are funny! —BazookaJoe 21:49, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)
shiny things!


Um hi, It's dot com, I would like to point you to the Store page where if you check out the history you will see that the user Hydro has been trolling the page constantly. I have not yet seen his name on the Troll Page. Also, I like linking, and shiny things! --Stux 14:08, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Hi Stux. If someone ever needs to be added to the troll list, then by all means do it. Don't even worry if you mess up the format... if you should encounter problems somebody will be along to fix it. I'll take a look at Hydro now. Thanks for bringing it to someone's (in this case, my) attention. — It's dot com 14:12, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

My apologies for bugging you again. I think i'm trying to upgrade my status from being Mr. Fix minor things to being Mr. Pain-in-the-behind Wannabe. What am I talking about? Basically, fact checking. To what extent should we do fact checking. I was checking Matt Chapman's page history and noticed that the last change added the misc fact: "*Can be seen as an audience member in one episode of Whose Line Is It Anyway?" This is very general and my fingers are itching to revert it and leave a 'please provide evidence' note. But I haven't. Perhaps out of pity. Suggestions? (Do you have a fact-checking or fact adding set of guidelines even for admins?) --Stux 01:31, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Well, I hate to interrupt somebody else's conversation, but I checked this myself. If you look at Matt's IMBD page, it lists him as an uncredited audience member near the bottom. --DorianGray
I don't know about It's dot com cuz it's his message bored but I personally appreciate the interruption. Not to mention quick response! Wow, amazing, I didn't think they'd credit such minor things, but they did! Thanks DorianGray! (and thank you It's dot com for letting me use your Talk page!) --Stux 01:43, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

it's "Dot com"

Hello. Thanks for letting me know about the discussion regarding deleted redirects of the first two Strong Bad Emails. I was previously unaware of the accusations by Jay against me. By the way, may I call you IDC? It's an acronym of your username if you wouldn't mind me referring you by it. Thanks again. —THE PAPER PREEEOW 18:45, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I don't think he was accusing you, just perhaps mistaken. I alerted you to the discussion because I figured it pertained to you and therefore you could tell us why you thought it was better not to have the redirects. But if it wasn't you, then, obviously, you can't. Ah, well. I think the redirects are going to go forward (if E.L. Cool or others are still up to it). As for a short form of my user name, when people ask what it is, I say: it's Dot com. 19:26, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

The single deuce...not really

About Autobiography and the whole single deuce thing, you were right. I froze the frame and the way SB's holding his hand corresponds to his chin. Good call! —Smileyface11945

Thanks. Yeah, I guess Strong Bad's way more fond of double deuce action. — It's dot com 21:45, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

That one guy

Hey man, I put your link on my page. Change it if you don't like the way it's linked. Everything is up for discussion on my page, go ahead and talk all you want and encourage others to do so also. Thechamp 02:58, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. — It's dot com

Thanks for all your help, um... where can I talk with people again? -it's that annoying guy again!

Well, it's late. A lot of people are probably going to bed soon. Most people like to talk when something happens, like the release of a new toon. So check back on Monday. — It's dot com 04:41, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, It is late, isn't it. I'm surprised you, BazukaJoe, and some other guy, are still awake... I'm too tired to spell rite.

Listen, In the morn' discuss the stuff I gots on me' page, if I'm around...n' stuff. Thechamp 04:49, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)Thechamp

Sure. — It's dot com 04:53, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Hey! It's dot com, are you awake? Thechamp 15:16, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Anyone know how long your supposed to cook beef stu? Thechamp 18:20, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Sorry about the edditing, I just neede to get your attention. Can you tell me who usually goes on the forums? Thechamp 18:24, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Hundreds of people. Many of them are on this wiki. Many of them aren't. —BazookaJoe 18:51, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

How come no one is talking about my Idea that I had? I thought it was good, does no one else think so? Thechamp 18:35, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

This isn't exactly the wiki where people care about story ideas. Fanstuff like that goes on the Fanstuff wiki. —BazookaJoe 18:51, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Baseball fan!

Hey Dot com! Are you a baseball fan?--bkmlb

I should probably add this to my user page sooner or later, but I'm a huge fan of baseball, and Major League Baseball in particular, and more specifically the Texas Rangers Baseball Club. I've got my trusty Rangers ballcap on right now, as always. I've been to several games this year and plan on more. I don't live in the Dallas–Fort Worth area, otherwise I would have season tickets at Ameriquest Field. I make up for it by keeping track of the team on TV, radio, and at mlb.com using Gameday, Gameday Audio, and MLB.TV. I mainly follow the AL (my second-favorite club is the Yankees), but I do like some NL teams: the Nationals, the Astros, the Mets, and (sorry) the Cubs, to name a few. Tonight, as it turns out, the Rangers topped the Orioles, 4–2, in Baltimore. Yay! — It's dot com 03:32, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Cool! You're only the second user I've heard of that is a baseball fan (other than me, there are two I've heard of). If you're not a huge cub fan then you won't bother me--and if you're not drunk, I'll be fine.--bkmlb

Not a huge Cub fan, but I do pull for them as the perennial underdogs, especially now that the Red Sox have won it all. Even being a Yankee fan, when Boston was able to overcome a 3–0 deficit, when in Game 4 all Rivera had to do was put out the side in the ninth... well, at that point I was pleased to see the BoSox finally rid themselves of that blasted curse! (I can't remember, who was it they beat in the World Series? ;) ) — It's dot com 14:24, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Yeah. I know, the Cardinals lost. I went to game four of the World Series, I was sad *sniffle*. I remember there were lots of Red Sox fans around us. One guy was talking to his wife on the phone the whole time. When the Sox won, my dad asked this red sox fan next to us, "What will you do now? This is your whole Idenity." And the red sox fan said back, " What year is it 86 years from now?" But the cubs haven't won the series since 1908!--bkmlb

Fanstuff

Do you have an account on the HRFWiki to? -- Strong Lad

Yes, I do, but I don't much use it. I reserved the same username as here on the knowledge base so that I'd have it if I ever wanted to comment on anything there, and also so no one could impersonate me (not like anybody would, but you never know). — It's dot com

What is it? -- Strong Lad

The same as here: It's dot com

DVD

Hey, how's your stuff for the DVD coming? Are you still working on Puppets on the Road? Oh, and are you doing Sample of Style Too? Because if not, I think I am going to take a stab at rewriting its transcript today. —BazookaJoe 13:35, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I see that the Sample of Style Too main part and outtakes are both just about done. I didn't read the transcript closely... you say you're going to rewrite it? I was working on Puppets on the Road, but I was wiped out last night and didn't finish it. I'd still like to complete POTR, but if somebody beats me to it, I won't be upset. — It's dot com 14:38, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I wrote Sample of Style Too's transcript using snippets of NYU Talk's transcript. There were many differences between the two videos (see Talk:Sample of Style Too). I would love it if you could get Puppets on the Road up. It's funny and popular with fans and I'm sure they would love to read it. I don't mean to rush you, though. —BazookaJoe 04:30, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Nah, I just kinda got slammed with going out of town and then I actually had to go in to my job and do real work. Sometimes, I can goof off here, but not today. And tonight, I was in a softball game. And we won the game. And so we went and got real fruit smoothies. (Really.) I figured at some point someone would just go ahead and take POTR from me if I didn't get a chance to finish it. I'm not even at my home computer (where my DVD is and where I've done all the DVD stuff), or I'd do it now. So to sum up, if somebody else does it instead because I dragged my feet, that's cool; but otherwise, I can do it by later tomorrow. If you should do it, just drop me a note here so I won't worry. — It's dot com 04:45, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I did finally have a chance to do this, in case anybody wondered how that story ended. — It's dot com

No swearing, huh?

Talk:record book Now, I'm trying real hard here to see what you're getting at, but I can't for the life of me spot ANY swearing in there. Care to point it out to me?

Look more closely. — It's dot com 00:21, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

What r you speekin aboot? Any who, Hay dot man? wana add your speechin to my talk payj? Thechamp 22:23, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Sorry for the edit

Ya that was stupid of me, I just wanted to see if anyone would notice it and change it. I promise nothing of the sort will happen again. Sox101

Oh, we've got eyes in the back of our heads! Seriously, thanks for apologizing. I trust you'll be more careful in the future. — It's dot com 02:42, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Speculation or no

What was this for? It's not merely speculation; it's a likely reference. --195.92.67.69 16:52, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Really? When an item is phrased using words like "could be" and "whether she actually did is debatable," it sure sounds like speculation to me. And you're not considering the fact that Marzipan breaks up with Homestar 50% of the time on her character video. — It's dot com 16:59, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Gah. I hate this wiki. Well, maybe not wiki, more like you and BazookaJoe seemingly cutting every edit I make. In fact, I'm going to stop editing this thing and just watch the cartoons in peace. --195.92.67.69 17:02, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I'm sorry you feel that way. If you truly believe I or we are acting unilaterally, I will cheerfully STUFF the item(s) in question for you. — It's dot com 17:13, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you from pertmywert

Thankyou so much for all your help and ideas. I hope you can keep on being nice to me and I to you. Email me if you want. --Pertmywert| 02:32, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Pertmywert, to answer the question you asked earlier, I think you're a fine user. You've made several good contributions recently, including some necessary reverts. Also, in all seriousness, I appreciate your willingness to welcome new users. I think your ♥ is in the right place there. (Side note: there's a link in your welcome template that says "me" but actually points to JoeyDay. Perhaps change "me" to "JoeyDay".)
Remember that not everybody stays at their computer every minute of every day, so sometimes patience is required when waiting for a response. And it's an unfortunate fact that many of the users go unnoticed who do a lot of little but important things. It's like an umpire in baseball, who nobody pays any attention to when everything is going fine, but people rant and shout when a call is blown.
A couple of pointers: whenever you're describing your edits, try to avoid emotionally charged words like "useless", etc. It's sufficient just to say "reverted such-and-such to version by so-and-so". Even better, try to find the good parts of an edit see if you can reword them so they fit into the article. (See this edit for an example.)
To sum up, keep up the good work learning, gaining experience, and making quality contributions.
Sincerely,
It's dot com 03:20, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)
P.S. {comment moved under image in subsection below}

User Award

Congrats

You have won the favourite use award for this week (or month)

Here is your trophy

  • Thank you for your FUA on 03:31, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC). I appreciate that. — It's dot com

Fav User Award Page?

Hey, It's dot com, is there a page that has the previous winners of the "Fav. User Award"? --Smileyface11945 22:10, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Do you mean the one I got from Pertmywert? If so, I dunno; that's his page. You might check the history here. Or you could ask him. Hope that helps. — It's dot com 22:19, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Thank you. You are undoutably awesome. Smileyface11945 22:28, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Thanx from Strong Lad

Thanks for the help with my user page -- Strong Lad

No probalo. My pleasure. — It's dot com 18:29, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Thank you from Rogue Leader

Thank you so moch for making the troll template. It is much easier to add trolls now. Thanks again! Rogue Leader / (my talk)

Copy, Rogue Leader! — It's dot com 05:08, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Thanx from Rebecca

I also wanted to thank you! Thanx for helping me with some of the questions that I asked on my talk page! --arrow4.PNG~Rebecca~ RJMT speaker-noise.gif 05:42, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Any time you need help, I'm happy to do so. — It's dot com 05:08, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Thank You from bkmlb

For helping me with my sig and being nice to me, you get a trophy trophy.jpg
sparkle sparkle --minibaseball.png Bkmlb(talk to me·stuff I did) 04:26, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

You're certainly welcome. Gotta look out for a fellow baseball fan. — It's dot com 05:08, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

You deserve a Pizza Trophy!

"Congrats! Have a Pizza Trophy!"

I present this Pizza Trophy to It's dot com for his outstanding work and attention to detail on countless articles.

I've been meaning to award you for your tireless efforts here on the wiki. I saw the gift that bkmlb gave you and it reminded me what I had intended to award you. Hope you don't mind receiving two trophies in the same day! emowink.gif —THE PAPER PREEEOW 05:52, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Thank you, The Paper! I appreciate it. Tireless efforts sure can be tiring sometimes, but it helps to have encouragement like that. — It's dot com 06:00, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Concur'd! Those wiki projects you're all the time doing are hawt! —BazookaJoe 12:46, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)
You know, I was thinking that you deserved a Pizza Trophy for the Stuff reform. Lo and behold, here it is. Good prize! :D Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 07:34, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, Amanda. Have fun at Disney World! — It's dot com 17:56, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I'm sure I will! (I'm not actually leaving until tomorrow, but I thought I'd put the message up in case I forgot in the rush of packing & everything.) Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 18:00, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Thanks from Payphone Ed

"Homer no function beer well without." Thanks for fixing those things on the Linux Incompatibilities page. I think I need a nap or something. :3 --Payphone Ed 23:09, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Glad to help. I know the feeling... "No TV and no beer make It's dot com something something." "Go crazy?" "Don't mind if I do!" Actually, it's more like no TV and no Dr Pepper, in my case. — It's dot com 23:16, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

br format

I was just wondering why you changed the <br clear="all" /> to <br style="clear:both" /> on Template:Strong Bad Email. Both are standards compliant ([2], [3]) so I was just wondering what made you make the switch. It's not a problem or anything, I'm just curious. Thanks. -- Tom 21:36, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Well, earlier this week I read this: "IE generally does not seem to appreciate using br as a clearing agent. Too, the clear attribute is deprecated in html4 in favor of the style property." Since I figured we also preferred styles, I changed it when I noticed it. — It's dot com 21:47, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. -- Tom 21:55, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Martin F.

Hey, Its Martin F. lol Thanks for the inspiration. You and I both have a similar experience with being introduced wih Homestar. You do a great job editing. See you around the Wiki! --Martin925 03:02, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, Martin. See ya 'round! — It's dot com 20:07, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

User page

AWESOME user page Dot com! Where did you find that template thing?--minibaseball.png Bkmlb(talk to me·stuff I did) 14:51, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, BK! I spotted the code for the stuff at the top on a user page over at WikiCities, and then I just adapted it to my page. I also decided to update a few things, expand a few things, add some new sections, and make the format more readable. I'm glad you like it! I just changed it yesterday... what led you to notice it? — It's dot com 15:40, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I don't know. I just look a recent changes alot and you're on there alot.--minibaseball.png Bkmlb(talk to me·stuff I did) 17:21, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Go Bearcats!

Are you from missouri or the area? The Bearcats aren't well known outside the area.. --Adamlw 05:17, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Actually, no, I'm not. I've only been to Missouri a handful of times. I confess I looked it up. Go google! — It's dot com 05:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Brilliance

You sir, are quite a genius. I was trying to figure out a good way of keeping the two Inside Jokes lists the same. Your solution for its sister page, Running Gags, is perfect. Therefore I copied it on Inside Jokes. Thank you very much, and keep up the good work. Thunderbird 00:28, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, TBird! Organizing Strong Bad Emails in different ways I can understand. But it just didn't make sense to have two lists with identical information organized the same way. We misinterpret "Once and Only Once" around here, but this was a clear case where it fit perfectly. Thanks for the compliment! And I will keep it up! — It's dot com 05:07, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I know, it was kinda a tricky thing. I suggested just making Category:Running Gags the whole page, but Tom said they weren't meant for that. I never thought of just making the page link to the list, instead of being the list. Thanks for thinking of it. Thunderbird 17:17, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

The Process

Hey, Dot com, it's The Smoking Monkey. As you seem both knowledgeable and up front about how things get done, I thought I'd come to you. Recently, I've been doing the whole recent change patrolling bit, and have come up with the following questions:

  • Do all edits done by anonymous users need to be reverted? I've encountered a few that are correct or beneficial.
  • Conversely, if a registered user makes a questionable edit (say, for example, adding a goof or remark that is open to debate), what would I do? I've reverted a couple, and I need to make sure this is within the rules.

Thanks for any input you might have.

Well, Smoking Monkey, anonymous users are more than welcome to contribute. I daresay everyone (with the exception of the handful of people who actually set up the wiki) started out as an anonymous user. They often have insight or experience that are invaluable to getting to the bottom of an article. The reason we keep such a close eye on people who aren't members is that it just happens that most of the edits that are redundant, obvious, or otherwise non-beneficial come from anonymous users. The vast majority of trolls are anonymous as well. So, to make a long story short, do not automatically revert anonymous edits. (Note: if we wanted, we could prevent anonymous editing with a simple setting; obviously, we have not chosen to do this.)
If a logged in user makes a bad edit, it can be reverted just like an anonymous edit. Logged-in users get a little special treatment, however. First of all, it's polite to list a reason in the edit summary instead of simply rolling back the page. Second, if an edit is borderline, strongly consider starting a discussion on the relevant talk page instead of simply removing another user's work.
I hope this helps. Don't hesitate to ask if you have further questions. — It's dot com 17:02, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Understood. I don't want to be overzealous in reverting things - the last thing I want to do is step on toes and hurt feelings. But my "common sense" might not be so "common" to everyone. Trying to be careful as I go. -TSM
I just happened upon this discussion and figured I drop a word or two. My general rule of thumb is this: revert bad edits, keep good ones. Rewrite bad wording (there's *A LOT* of it). Have fun, be polite, but be bold! It's pretty simple, really! -- tomstiff 17:06, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the input! -- THE SMOKING MONKEY 17:13, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)
That's an excellent way to put it, Tom (I've always assumed your name is Tom... your user page has never said anything other than "Hello world!"). I'll probably steal your rule of thumb and not give you credit, just so you know. ;) To it I would add one thing: if you ever have legitimate doubt about whether an anonymous edit is good or bad, take the action that leads to more content. That is, if someone adds something but you're not sure, then just leave it. But if an anonny deletes something (especially something big) that you think has merit, put it back.
There's always more than one logged-in user looking at these pages, so it all usually gets straightened out in the end. — It's dot com 17:19, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Signature

Hi, It's dot com. I need your help.. your the only one I really trust to have enough patients with me! Anydangways, could you help me figiure out how to make my signiture stand out? I notice that alot of people do that, but I have no clue how. Homestramy20 06:45, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Oh, never mind. The Paper helped me Homestramy20|Talk 06:48, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Glad you got that worked out. I made a couple of code tweaks for you so that the date would show up correctly on the same line as the sig. Wish I could've helped you more, but I've gotta sleep sometime. ;) — It's dot com 13:51, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

New Template

Thanks Dot Com, that color looks good. I'm just wondering about the centering. On the Email template (the one I modeled this one after), it's much larger, and fills the whole screen from side to side. This one doesn't, so on larger displays, such as mine, it's shifted to the left. Any idea how to center it? (And for the sizing, it's small on the Strong Bad Emails to save space. I don't think it'd be too bad to have medium font on this template, for easier reading and clicking). Thunderbird 04:53, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
EDIT: I think the centering thing could be something to do with 'width="100%"' Thunderbird 04:55, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Er, I guess you haven't looked at the template again yet, because I already fixed the centering. All the other nav templates (SB email, answering machines, CD, DVD, etc.) use <small>, so I figured this one should, too. — It's dot com 05:04, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Hmmm... For some reason it still seems askew on my browser. Oh well, I don't care much. Like so many things on a wiki, I'm sure it'll somehow get fixed later, by someone else. And sorry about the sizing thing, I guess I'm wrong on that. In any case, I'm going to bed. Here's hoping the trolls do too. Thunderbird 05:08, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Amen to that. — It's dot com

Character screenames

Um, Mr. Dot com, sir.... I was just wondering if it was article-worthy to write about the AIM screenames of all the characters. Just a thought.... -- Alcnolien

Let's have a brainstorm. What are all the screen names used by the characters? Just curious. —BazookaJoe 01:26, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)
I know of hooray4dolphins for Marzipan (although it's debateable that Strong Bad was telling the truth), cheatachu72 for The Cheat, and depressio111117 for Strong Sad. There's also gr8lookinggrrl from i she be. Although, in my opinion, these aren't really worthy of an article. -- mibluvr13dígame 01:30, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Perhaps it could be noted in a specific spot on the character pages of those that are known, since we don't know them all. By the way, you don't have to call me sir. "Mr. Dot com" is fine. ;) — It's dot com 02:29, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Thank you, Mr. Dot com. I just felt it was noteworthy somewhere. --Alcnolien
I was kidding about the mister part, too. You can call me Dot com if you want. — It's dot com

Free Country USA

It's dot com, it's your friendly neighborhood Smoking Monkey again. I just wanted to comment on the Free Country, USA thing earlier today, because I've made you my unofficial HRWiki mentor and seek your advice from time to time on Wiki matters.

In any case, what caught my attention was an anonymous user dumped, say, 50% more info on the Free Country article. I've noticed over the weeks that 90% of anonymous edits tend to be speculation, stating the obvious, or just plain wrong. Let's say the other 9% are helpful typo, spelling and grammar corrections. It's that 1% that leads to doubt. This guy/gal radically expanded a decent article, but I couldn't tel whether the expansion was worthy or not. I know I was previously advised to err on the side of expanded content, but I've seen even registered users get slammed for adding little bits of info to articles. This guy/gal added a lot, and when I first saw it, I balked. It seemed like speculation, so I reverted.

Then Mr. Bojangles re-reverted. I looked at it a second time - this time I saw disconnected thoughts that added only confusion - so I reverted again.

Then you reverted my change, and I looked at it a third time. This time, I saw neither speculation nor confused thinking - only prose that needed refining.

I admit I've been in a bad mood recently, and have been, er, draconian in my enforcement of what I perceive is appropriate for the Wiki. I admit I was wrong reverting this article across the board.

Hopefully I made it up by actually adding to and trying to improve on the additions of the anonymous (and British) user - I got a little too caught up in making sure others play by the rules...

Faithfully patrolling the Wiki, THE SMOKING MONKEY 00:26, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Your characterization of anonymous edits is probably dead-on accurate (except when pages are first being created, which isn't that often, relatively speaking). If someone has something important to add, they usually take the step of registering first. Most of my edits were relatively minor until I registered. In fact, it was when I was trying to add something more substantial that I was encouraged to join.
I appreciate that you consider me something of a mentor, and I take seriously my responsibility to you and others I help. I carefully consider any advice I give, and it is always my hope that each user's experience here is improved by my input. This can't always be the case when someone disagrees with me, but in cases like that I try to be as diplomatic as possible. As far as anonymous users go, I try to incorporate any part of their contributions that I can—anything—so that they will feel important and be comfortable enough to finally become full contributing members.
In this specific case, you may notice that I didn't do a straight revert, but rather cleaned it up a bit before adding it back.
If there's anything else I can help you with, you know I will. Besides, we 28-year-olds have to stick together. — It's dot com 01:42, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)
I see you're taking your critical, incisive eye to my runway pet project (Free Country, USA)- and it's about time. Of all the times I've proof-read, and internally debated the structure and the "facts" of the article, I knew that others would need to parse and improve on my own thoughts. And, speaking of my own thoughts, all I have to thank for my (irrational?) devotion to this article is some anonymous British kid I tried to censor.
In any case, I think most of it holds up well.
I really need to sleep,
THE SMOKING MONKEY 02:49, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Sleep well, Dave. Irrational devotion to articles, by the way, can strangely be a good thing, and is therefore completely welcome around here. — It's dot com 03:19, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

(For more on specific parts of the above article, see Talk:Free Country, USA.)

Offline

Hey It's dot com! I was wondering what you did with the 2005 updates page? Was it a ploy to annoy the troll? Rogue Leader / (my talk) 02:08, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Hey Rogue. That troll is not a person; rather, it is some kind of bot that searches for the different sections on the page and adds links under each one. My reasoning was that if I removed all the sections, it would have nothing to do, and would quit. In the meantime, I put up a notice so that any regular user who was looking at the page would be aware of what was going on. I don't know whether my actions actually did anything, or whether it was just coincidence that the attack stopped (almost) at that point. Only further research will tell. — It's dot com 02:14, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Another positive consequence: it may help the bot move on to less-visible pages. —BazookaJoe 02:32, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
It just happened again, and this time I think blanking the page actually did some good. The bot made one more attempt after I blanked it, but then it moved on. — It's dot com 03:27, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Man, you're the man!

How can you not be a sysop? You are one great user. When I read others' talk pages, you are alweys there to halp and give advise. Your edits and comments are alweys constructive and truthful. Your are the awesomest thing ever. Would you write a song about me? Elcool (talk)(contribs) 15:23, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Sorry for not replying sooner (and I don't mean because the database was locked), but things were already in the works (see the thread two down from here), just not yet official. It's been a while since I wrote a song (I've written a few, but it was always for a class), but maybe I'll see what I can do. — It's dot com 17:18, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)

How old are you???

Well. How old are you??? (Pertmywert)

Twenty-eight. Almost twenty-nine as of this writing. Why? — It's dot com 21:15, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Just Wondering. – Pertmywert (Talk·Edits)

Sysop

Just letting you know, you have been given sysop privileges. If you have any questions, never hesitate to ask. Thanks. -- Tom 16:28, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)

To JoeyDay, Tom, and all of you who have supported this, thank you from the bottom of my heart. I promise to fight for truth, justice, and the wiki way, and to always use my powers for good, and for awesome. Sincerely, It's dot com — 17:23, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Congrats, Dot com, and thank you for all the work you put into this wiki. Whether it be STUFF, troll fighting, public relations, revising, rewriting, copyediting, collaborating, you always do a top-notch job. —BazookaJoe 17:49, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Dot com! Conga rats, yo. —FireBird|Talk 19:01, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Please forgive me for the delay in these combolations. This is an honor you've deserved for quite some time now, glad to see you can finally block all of those trolls that irk us so. small_logo.pngUsername-talk 03:45, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Here here, congrats! You've finally been endowed with the tools you so desperately deserved. (I was on the chat channel when JoeyDay first awarded them their powers, but it doesn't hurt to congratulate twice) Thunderbird 16:56, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Combolations, Valerie! You'll no doubt do an outstanding job as sysop! THE SMOKING MONKEY 11:24, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Jay here. I see from the Recent Changes page that the two of you were named sysops at the Homestar Runner Wiki. Way to go! Join the elite ranks! I was actually thinking a while back that you two would make [good sysops], though I played no part in the actual decision. I'd congratulate you on the Wiki itself, but, well... (from Jay via email at 09:35, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC), sent while the wiki was locked)
To note, the above was also sent to BazookaJoe (who was named a sysop at the same time). I wasn't really expecting it to appear on this Wiki... But you guys both help out a lot around here, from refining STUFF to troll-fighting to whatever, so I do stand by what I said. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 21:29, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Bricka bracker firecracker sis boom bah! Dot com dot com rah rah rah! Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 21:51, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
I'm a little late to the party, but I still wanted to congratulate you on the recently-acquired sysop privileges... Ahem, "pri-vah-lah-gez". sbgif.gif Mazal tov! —THE PAPER PREEEOW 23:58, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Congrats!!!– Pertmywert (Talk·Edits) 04:04, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Way 2 go!!! You da bomb! Homestramy20|Talk 02:40, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Once again, thanks to everyone who has left a note here! — It's dot com

Fanstuff Wiki

Thank you for telling me. Man, I feel stupid right now... --thatkidsam 19:23, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Don't feel dumb. Stuff like that happens to all of us. — It's dot com 19:34, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Pronounced with an "RWiki"

This is a bit trivial, but an interesting fact. As you know, I'm all hung up on England, and even spent three weeks there. In response to your question 'wouldn't it be pronounced aitch-are-wiki?', the answer is 'no'. Not in England. Just the same way they pronounce the letter Z as 'zed', they also put an H sound in front of H, making it 'haitch' or something thereof. I'm not sure if this is of significance, but it's an interesting fun-fact nonetheless. I think so, anyway. But since the Wiki (and H*R itself) are American-based, your 'an HRWiki namespace' would technically be correct. --DorianGray

What do I think of the English, huh? Oh, I'll tell you what I think of the English! {the rest of this post has been BANNED IN THE U.K.}It's dot com


Blockquote

How do you make that "blockquote" (i'm not sure what it is called but thats what it said in editing) where it shows what Strong Bad wrote on his computer on the transcripts? Is there a way to do it in HTML or just plain text? I'm just curious, because I think it will be so cool if I write my internet blogs like that.

Thanks again and again. You are the one user that I always go to for help! THANKS!--Martin925 19:22, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay in responding. I might suggest that you would get a faster reply by posting questions to the FAQ talk page. Anyway, it's possible to recreate the blockquote style outside the wiki, but you need to know some CSS and where to find it. First of all, the HTML (<blockquote> ...blah blah <br/> ... </blockquote>) is the same as the code you get when you press "edit", so you could just copy one of those to practice. What you need then is the various definitions for "email" found in MediaWiki:Monobook.css (and possibly other CSS files... check the source code of a wiki page to see what they are). Also, you would need the image of Strong Bad's face copied and saved to your server. It sounds kinda coplicated, but I hope this helps. — It's dot com 21:55, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

WOW

Hey, Ben. I know you probably noticed, but we had a WOW-style vandal before (Homestar walker). But he...apologized? He seems a tad confused. — THE SMOKING MONKEY 18:01, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Hey, Dave. I did notice. In fact, I deleted all the bogus redirects I could find. I think I got them all. As for blocking him, I wasn't sure whether to do it. If blocking would lead to more vandalism but not blocking wouldn't, then I'm willing to leave well enough alone. I was actually seeking advice from Joey and/or Tom, but neither of them seems to be online right at the moment. Obviously, if Willy or whoever this gets so much as a toe out of line again, he'll get the indefinite block. What do you think? I haven't been able to get in touch with any of the other sysops, either, so he could yet be blocked by one of them and this discussion would be moot. — It's dot com 18:12, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)
'Tis rather curious. I can't help but feel we're being blackmailed by the devil. Thunderbird 21:15, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Hmmm...since it was my first WOW-battling incident, I was bit hot afterwards, especially when he came out and said "sorry" and then "if you try to block me, I'll just do it again." It all seemed typically sophmoric to me - clearly he was having fun moving the same four pages over and over and over again, but then he lost interest and indicated he wanted to contribute. Essentially, he was malicious, but only so long as it saved him from being bored.
Your point is well-taken, though: if we can't actually block him because of the AOL loop-hole, then I guess it shouldn't be a problem if he continues behaving like a normal user. I'm not big on holding grudges, and if Venusy and bkmlb (the other two users caught up in the battle against him) don't have a problem with him staying on, then I don't have a problem.
That is, until he gets bored again! THE SMOKING MONKEY 10:56, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC) (Incidentally, the idea of a smoking monkey on wheels is pretty funny in and of itself)
As long as he doesn't do it again, I don't have a problem. And you're right, the concept of a smoking monkey on wheels is pretty funny. --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif, 12:12, 24 September 2005 (BST)
EDIT: I shouldn't have used MS Paint to do this in 5 minutes.
Dude, that's hilarious! I wonder what kind of mileage he gets? THE SMOKING MONKEY11:35, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

sysops

I was wondering, how do you become a sysops? -lil stiny

I have actually written on this subject on several other pages. Below is a copy of this discussion. — It's dot com 18:19, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Hey AtHC, How do people become Administrators? I've been thinking about that... -Kinsey
I don't want to presume to speak for Aurora, but I've written at length about this very subject on this page, if that helps. — It's dot com 19:42, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Here is the relevant text from that page:
Becoming an admin, as they're also called, is a good goal to have, but it doesn't happen overnight. Basically, you start out at the bottom of the totem pole, and work your way up. Over time, people will begin to notice your edits; you'll want to make good ones. If you do, gradually a sense of trust will develop between you and the wiki community. In the meantime, fight trolls, add good fun facts, monitor pages for bad edits, help out with the maintenance of the site, learn the ins and outs of the software. Undertake a worthwhile project (but ... it's best to get approval before doing so). Then, sometime in the future, the current admins will open the floor for nominations for new sysops, at which time another user can throw your name in the ring. Then, we'll all vote on you. They probably won't nominate new admins for a while, and when they do, maybe you'll be nominated, maybe not. Either way, keep on keepin' on making good edits and building up that trust. It's just that simple!
I'm glad you posted that, It's dot com, because it's a good explanation! Definately monitor for edits, learn to recognize good and poor edits, and always be diplomatic in discussions. Undertaking worthwhile projects (with wiki-approval first) is a great way to contribute and be noticed. To all of this, I would add that you should think about why you want to become an administrator. If you want to be an administrator to have more power, that's the wrong reason. It's about responsibility, not power, and it sometimes involves doing unpleasant things. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 19:46, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

teehee, the entire time I was reading this I'm picturing It's dot com sitting at his compy/lappy dictating this message in the best strong bad impression he can make. The question was very similar to several of the sbemails and the answer was just as good except it didn't make fun of lil stiny (I'm not saying he should have, but that was the only difference) NFITC1

No, I wouldn't make fun here. I just have already thought long about this question and felt that the previous discussion (especially including the reply by Homestar Coder) covered the subject well. Thus, it was practical to copy and paste. :) — It's dot com 18:34, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Super-plain link

Is there any way to link something, but keep it just a regular black color, without underlining or anything? perhaps some kind of color tags or a 'no underline' tag before and after? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks. Thunderbird 19:42, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Sure. One of the words in this sentence is a link to a page. If you wanted to be really sneaky, I think you could even force it not to show the "hand pointing" cursor that is usually displayed when you're over a link. Out of curiosity, what makes you ask? — It's dot com 19:58, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Hmmm... The link is still underlined. And It's not that I want it sneaky, I still want the hand to pop up. I just want uniformity. Is there any way to get rid of the underline? Then I'll let you know why. Thunderbird 20:04, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)
I will have to do more research. I don't know why the text-decoration property isn't being correctly displayed by your browser. — It's dot com 20:28, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

block

what does it take to bann someone? Lil Stiny 02:39, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

That depends. Why do you ask? — It's dot com
i just fixed some vandalism and i was wondering Lil Stiny 02:42, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Well, here is our official blocking policy. Whenever you notice vandalism, leave a note on HRWiki:WikiTroll. Try to follow the format as best you can, but don't worry if you don't get it quite right (someone will fix it for you). The sysops check that page and block vandals and trolls listed there. Hope that helps. Oh, and I went ahead and took care of the guy you mentioned. Thanks for looking out for the wiki! — It's dot com 02:55, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Senor Cardgage Mortgage

I checked those two Fast Forwards for you. They were indeed factual. However, they still don't qualify as Fun Facts in my book. The "Fun" part is seriously lacking on those two, in my opinion. ACupOfCoffee 21:18, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Right. It wasn't that I thought that they were untrue, just that they didn't really qualify as references. Thanks for checking on that. — It's dot com 21:20, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Pasta Salad a go-go

Hey, Ben. Thanks for, um, clarifying the tone of my voice for the whole Pasta Salad talk Page boondoggle. It's easy for me to forget no one around here (short of you) really has any idea who I am. Life's kinda throwing me a curveball right now, and as an artist, I tend to get irrational about my work (even if it's three sentences about Gron Mad eating elbow macaroni). I wasn't trying to be a jerk. Anyway, thanks as always for the classic Dot com level-headedness. — THE SMOKING MONKEY 22:28, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Well, Dave, I just knew you wouldn't make an article—on whatever subject—without a positive reason, and certainly not to make a point. As far as I can tell, that's not your style. And I felt I needed to step up and say so, so I did. — It's dot com 22:36, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Geddup Noise

It's dot com, it's getting pretty ugly over here at geddup noise. There is a constant revert/add between whether the KOT says Booo or Dooo. Maybe someone should add a footnote about the transcript, like in boring (really). — Lapper (talk) 01:36, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Archives

I wasn't sure where to ask this, but you seem to know alot. So what exactly is this archives.org that people keep retrieving treasures from? How does it really work, and would you be able to provide me with an answer to my question on Talk:some kinda robot? Thunderbird 05:50, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I'm not really all that familiar with that, TBird. You might try the FAQ talk. — It's dot com

Greetings

Hey there It's dot com, i got your message from my talk page thanks for the greeting.

I'm new to Homestar runner wiki, but i'm also a member of Wikipedia it self, so i know about this (~) to write my name, and how to upload images ETC.

Lets get to know each other a bit:

  1. How did you find me so quickly?
  2. whats your real name?
  3. whats your speciality in Hrwiki?
  4. are you a member of wikipedia? if so whats your user name?

hope so see your reply.

Nikolce Kocovski 06:05, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Well, Nikolce...
  1. I saw you create your user page in the recent changes.
  2. Ben.
  3. Read all about me on my user page.
  4. I edit Wikipedia as an anonymous user from time to time, but I'm not a member.
Again, welcome to the wiki! — It's dot com 06:11, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

by the way it's dot com, when you reply, reply the message to my talk page, it's just easier to know i have s new message, but thats if you want to. Nikolce Kocovski 04:45, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Actually, Nikolce, I'm a big believer in keeping threads in one place. But you're welcome to add me to your watchlist if you want, at least until you get a reply. — It's dot com 05:07, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Reynold

Alright, I have to ask. As my first bold attempt at helping keep the peace in this particular Wiki, I remove a Wikipedia reference to pizza. Why is a link to such a common food necessary? Come back, chocolates!

Where is the harm in including it? The article is interesting, and you might be surprised how much pizza differs in other countries from the U.S. version. — It's dot com 16:52, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)
No harm per se, it was simply my motivation to prevent the building a precedent of Wiki-linking every common object, regardless of its history. But I digress. -Come back, chocolates!

Encountering trolls

Uh... I think i just found a troll. What do i do? --— talk Bubsty edits 21:17, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

First things first... what did you find? — It's dot com
Oh wait, dorian gray deleted it, i think. It was on the user page User:Aussie Evil. --— talk Bubsty edits 21:20, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Oh good, thanks for blockin them. --— talk Bubsty edits 21:25, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Below are some general suggestions for anyone who might be faced with this issue in the future. — It's dot com 21:40, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

If you find a troll, especially one in progress:

  • Revert each affected page to the last good version (the instructions for reverting are at the top of HRWiki:WikiTroll).
  • Use the edit comment "reverting trolling". This will help the sysops notice something is wrong.
  • Make an entry on HRWiki:WikiTroll for the troll. If no sysops are around at the time of the vandalism, they can check the list and make appropriate blocks later.

Some things to remember, especially in the face of a serious attack:

  • Remain calm.
  • Remain professional.

Some things not to do:

  • Do not feed the trolls.
  • That is, do not put anything in edit summaries that would encourage them to continue their attacks.
  • Likewise, do not try to reason with them or taunt them on their talk pages.

Hope that helps! — It's dot com

It does, thanks!!!! --— talk Bubsty edits 22:14, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Edit comments

How does one make editing comments? -Thechamp 21:43, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Click "edit" at the right over there → . Then look just below the editing window. See where it says "Summary"? Type something in that box. That's how you leave an edit comment. — It's dot com 21:47, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Alphabetizing Categories and Catchin' Trolls

This seems like a good place to put stuff... I don't wanna clutter your talk by making new categories, that's why I keep piggybacking my messages. Ever thought of Archiving!? (gasp!) Hehe. Anyway on to buisness:

  • Ooooohhh! Right! So that's what it does. I thought it changed how the entry looked in the category list, and seeing no change, thought it did nothing. I had to remove it cuz it was autolinking to PseudoCharacters edit page, and I am sure I had created the link after I made the page. And I think I tried to purge... the hard way... Maybe? Anyway thanks for the fix!
  • BTW check out my first troll person report!

--Stux 16:10, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

    If a comment really is a continuation of an earlier thread, then go ahead and piggyback, but if it's a new thought, then it's perfectly fine to (and I prefer that you would) start a new thread. :) I reorganize my talk page from time to time and it helps me keep everything straight. As for archiving, I'm probably gonna put it off for at least a little bit longer. Only recently has this page exploded to the point that archiving would be necessary. If you want to see a page really in need of being split, look at Tom's talk page.
    As for the user who deleted things, well, he's not a troll. You may disagree with the things he deleted, but each example was something that is borderline. I even agree with a couple of them. Also, there's no reason to think that he saw the message left him in the edit summaries. Most anonymous users probably never look there. If you need to leave him a note, you should do so on his talk page.
    Sorry for removing him from the troll list, because I can tell you're proud of it and that your heart is in the right place. Don't worry... there'll be plenty others. ;) — It's dot com 16:36, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Yeah.... I was proud of it. You're quite observant! :). Bye troll edit :'( ... ;) To me they looked like random edits removing credible information. He was just over that side of the line (except for his first edit). Oh well. Next time! Catch ya later! --Stux 20:36, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

IP block issues

Yo, Mr. Dot Com, might I ask why you keep blocking my IP address every time, and also mark me as a "repeat offender?" I asked nicely for you and the other sysops to fix the rpoblem of this, because it's getting extremely frustrating for me when I want to edit something and I can't because somebody with a similar IP addy is trolling the site. This is now the fifth time that something like this has happened, and the second consecutive time that it's been you who has blocked me. I know you're just trying to do your job, but it isn't fair to people who follow all the wiki rules to be blocked just because of idiotic trolls who like to delete pages and add cuss words to them. --ISlayedTheKerrek 01:57, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

I apologize for any inconvenience, ISlayedTheKerrek. I will be happy to investigate your situation further, but I need some more information. What was the IP address that was blocked? When did you notice the problem? How do you connect to the Internet? I have reviewed the block log, and any blocks I have imposed for any real length are for what I consider serious infractions. There have been only three occasions when I have used the comment "repeat offender," only one of which was recent. In addition, the IPs fitting this description have had zero legitimate edits. Unfortunately, since this seems to be a recurring problem, it may not have a simple solution. There are some real jerks out there whose mission in life seems to be to spoil the fun for everybody else. We appreciate your patience and understanding as we try to sort this out. — It's dot com 04:23, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
My IP address, although I don't know EXACTLY which one it is offhand, is in the 205 range. Note this as well...I am not editing from my computer at this exact moment, as you again have blocked me because of the reason I stated before. I hope you can find a way to fix it soon, because this is now time number 5. --ISlayedTheKerrek 18:28, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
KerekSlayerDude: You can check your IP by going to IP Chicken. Let us know the exact IP that is blocked and we'll see if we can get the block removed. Thanks. — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 18:54, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Well, my current IP address according to IP Chicken is 152.163.101.7, which has changed in the last couple of days from the 205.whatever it was before. Right now, I'm able to edit from my computer, so all is good for now. --ISlayedTheKerrek 14:51, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, Kerrek. If you have this problem in the future please let us know. Again, we're sorry about the inconvenience. We appreciate having you around and hate to see good productive members getting blocked an behalf of nasty trollers. — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 16:18, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Actually, he slayed the Kerrek. ;) — It's dot com
ISlayedTheKerrek, if you ever find yourself blocked from editing again, please simply email a sysop or the Admins a short note explaining the situation. Make sure you include the IP address that appears on the blocked notice. It is easy for a sysop to unblock you, you just need to supply us with the proper information and remain calm. Thanks. -- Tom 16:34, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)

ATTENTION: this is a joke, don't take it seriously

I thought you of all people would know that it's against the rules to tamper with other people's comments. I'll let it slide this time, but try to be more careful in the future. small_logo.pngUsername-talk 15:46, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Well, at least I justified it by doing it for no good reason whatsoever. ;) ...Seriously (and I know you said don't take it seriously), you can fix others' formatting to a point, so long as you don't change the content of their comments. And, for purely aesthetic value, those color words really needed to be colorized. I would have gone with green for "greediest" (which of course is not a color word, just different from "greatest"), but it was already taken by "greenest." — It's dot com 16:35, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I know... Just a little too bored this morning. I usually don't let it get the best of me, but what can I say. small_logo.pngUsername-talk 18:04, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Likewise, I only replied (partly) seriously because I don't like comments to go unanswered, especially on my own talk page, and I couldn't think of what else to say. Also, if someone comes along and reads this later, I wanted to explain it so they'll have a clue as to what we were talking about. — It's dot com 18:18, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Hey, it's my sig color! *is greediest* :p Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 19:10, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

IRC channel

How ... do you join it? This little experience has made me like this wiki, more, and now I want to join the chat channel. HOW?!?! H * R 7 0 0

There are several ways, but the easiest way is to go to chat.hrwiki.org and follow the instructions there. See also HRWiki:IRC channel. — It's dot com 21:56, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Hi from H*L!

Hallo! I was so glad that my new page was noticed by a Wiki legend like yourself... Anydangway, it's cool to be welcomed into the Wiki community. I seem to be gaining popularity among current and former music students. Keep on tranglin'. Heimstern Läufer 04:33, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

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