User talk:JoeyDay

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Contents 1 Toldja so 2 Donation 3 Hi 4 It's dot com 5 Just letting you know 6 Haldo 7 Hi 8 Clock 9 Matt Chapman 10 Ringtone 11 New store address 12 Forum Problems 13 Hosting 14 Images 15 HRFWiki:Flashkit 16 Another fanstuff Wiki 17 Frappr place 18 My fanstuff JS: 19 Your name 20 Donated 21 My forum account 22 Sysopness 23 TodayborDay is JoeyDay's BirthdayborDay! 24 Um...What's Up? 25 your input 26 Help on committee 27 The Logo 28 Oops, please revert. 29 D'ween list 30 Help! 31 Thank You page 32 InterWiki stuff 33 B-Day 34 Forum Troubles 35 personal letter from matt chapman 36 Happy Birthday! 37 Wikipedia:Joey Day 38 Wiki tips

Toldja so

I told you we should have waited another couple of days before making this move. Now everyone thinks this is a joke! --Jay (Talk) 21:07, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Well Tom Thunderbird Jay, that doesn't make him feel any better about it. And besides, it's their fault. I don't know how many times I've told them it's not a joke. — Seriously ^(Talk) 21:09, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I know. But they're not listening. --Jay (Talk) 21:10, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I know We'll just have to get it to them as clear as we can. And that means either putting it on the Main Page, or pulling some outrageous stunt like blocking everybod who doesn't listen. ;) — Seriously ^(Talk) 21:13, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't believe, block me. --Collin 21:15, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm starting to. i mean, Joey doesn't lie much, and, I dunno. I'm kinda nuetral now. I mean, maybe their right... Bluebry 21:16, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't think anyone is stupid enough to make such a change on april fools day. people would be much more accepting otherwise... in my opinion. --Collin 21:21, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I think blocking everyone may be going just an eensy bit too far. Oh, well,they'll all see tomorrow. --Jay (Talk) 21:30, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Y'know, I think I've grown a bit fond of 'tavi. If it leaves, I'll miss it. — Seriously ^(Talk) 02:38, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Wow. I believed every excuse you sysops said. Good job. — Seriously ^(Talk) 13:36, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Donation

Did you get my check yet? I just want to make sure. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 05:31, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I have received your check. I've deposited it, but have yet to transfer it from my bank account into the my PayPal account. I'll list it on the register when that goes through. Thanks for checking up on it and keeping me honest, and thanks especially for your donation. — Joey (talk·edits) 18:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 19:56, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi

It's dot com

Hey JoeyDay this is Master Chief. I need to tell you some stuff. It's Dot Com blamed me and Tampo for vandal sockpuppets when we didn't do anything. Oh yeah could you de-admin Dot Com and then ban him? He is really annoying me and Tampo.--Master Chief 22:58, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Listen closely, Master Chief: you are playing with fire. The evidence I have against you is circumstancial, but I think I could make it stand up in a court. On the other hand, I have Tampo dead to rights. Incidentally, I have been keeping JoeyDay fully apprised of the situation, so you can post here if you want, but it really isn't necessary. — It's dot com 23:05, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Master Chief, cut the bullcrap. We know you and Tampo are doing the sock puppetry and the vandalism, and we have server logs to prove it. Everything you do is logged by your IP address on our server. We have logs that show you both signing out of your own accounts and creating new accounts to vandalize the wiki. Lying about it isn't helping the situation at all. Crying to me isn't going to help the situation either. You need to 'fess up to all this and quit doing it or we'll ban you indefinitely. It's that simple. — Joey (talk·edits) 20:19, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Just letting you know

Hi JoeyDay stop giving crap that doesn't exist! We did not create vandal sockpuppets! Dot Com just wants to get us in trouble for no reason.--Master Chief 21:01, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

If you have proof of what kind of sockpuppets we created tell me and Tampo what are they. Me and Tampo DID NOT! Create vandal sockpuppets!--Master Chief 21:06, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Master Chief, you logged in today as KillerFrenchFry1 and vandalized Dot Com's user page. Stop or you will be banned. — Joey (talk·edits) 21:12, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

What?!?! Really?!?! I must be dreaming. Months ago on the recent changes for the user creasion creation log it said KillerFrenchFry1. No seriously. It was true. Tampo (^T/C) 21:28, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I just checked the user creation log and I typed in KillerFrenchFry1 and User:KillerFrenchFry1 and got nothin'. Isn't that weird?!?! Tampo (^T/C) 21:32, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. I guess you just weren't looking hard enough. — It's dot com 21:36, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I typed it in the second box instead of the first! That's probably why I got nothin'! Anyway, it said March 23^strd. Tampo (^T/C) 21:48, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Joey didn't say the account was created recently. In fact, we already knew the account was a sockpuppet account of Master Chief, and we already told you we knew when It's dot com included that account on the list of his sockpuppets in that note on your user talk page. -- Tom 06:58, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Haldo

I was just randomly looking around the Wiki and decided that I would stop by and drop you a line. What's going on with the wiki lately? Anything need doing that a non admin can do to help out? Also, would it be okay for me to add you to my friends list? I mean, you're probably the biggest user around here and probably have done more for the wiki than anyone else. I'd like to honor you for that. What do you think?--ΨHomsarΨroksΨ 14:56, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm flattered, but I'd have to disagree with your statement about me doing more for the wiki than anyone. I've been relatively inactive for some time now and I'm sure Tom and lately It's dot com have done much more for the wiki than I have (and there are many more I could and probably should list). Feel free to add me to your friends list, though. On the wiki I'm friends with everyone (even though some may not be friendly with me). As for things to do, you can always check the discussion at HRWiki:Projects or HRWiki:Da Basement for ideas and the latest news and gossip. Cheers! — Joey (talk·edits) 19:33, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Hey joey. I was just hanging around the wiki like a bad smell and I thought I would check in. How are you and your wife doing? Reply on my talk when you get the chance. Talk atcha later!--ΨHomsarΨroksΨ 14:56, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Clock

Do you know what I am doing wrong? I entered the javascript code into my monobook.js page, but I still can't see the clock. Stonecold5987 (talk·edits) 18:47, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Try a hard refresh. If you're using FireFox, that means holding down shift and pressing the refresh button. You also have to paste both codes into their respective monobook pages. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 18:49, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I had to enter in the correct CSS code, I had changed the js code to the one for placing the clock under my personal menu, and forgot to change the CSS code accordingly. Also, do you know how I can fix my user page? The details of the problem are at the bottom of my talk page. Stonecold5987 (talk·edits) 18:58, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

{Thread Continues At User Talk:Stonecold5987}

Matt Chapman

Am I reading the Thank You page right? Is the Matt Chapman one of the donors? If so, that makes him doubly cool. Point7Q 01:54, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

See User:JoeyDay/talk archive 81-100#Congrats, and the other contents of the envelope. —AbdiViklas 02:16, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I never would have thought to look there on my own. Point7Q 02:21, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Ringtone

Sweet ringtones Joey. I have a Trogdor one myself, but that's because it's the only one I found online. How did you get yours? — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 15:07, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Made 'em myself. My new Treo 650 can import any MIDI or WAV file as a ringtone. I used a couple free programs by a company called NCH Swift Sound: one called Switch to convert the MP3 files into WAV files, and another called WavePad to splice and crop the files. I just cropped them down to 30 seconds or so and saved them as mono, 32 KHz, 16-bit files to accomodate my limited storage space on the device. Although, at 16-bit they still take up a whopping MB and a half each (out of a total 23 MB on the device). 8-bit makes them half that, but then they sound horrible. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Anyway, they sound great, and I'll never again mistake someone else's ring for mine. — Joey (talk·edits) 22:22, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I think I'll have to use this programs myself. This sounds awesome. — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 03:41, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

New store address

The new store URL is http://homestarrunner.stores.yahoo.net, and old store URLs redirect accordingly. Could you please change the store link's base URL accordingly?

With crap,
Y2K () in Santa Rosa (just kidding) 23:07, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, X. I've updated the database and style sheets accordingly. — It's dot com 23:40, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Forum Problems

The FAQ on this wiki doesn't pertain to the forum, which I can't sign in at. I get a "user inactive" message when signing in and when using the "Forgot your password?" form. —GWR 2004 ^Talk_Contribs 21:55, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Please email the details of your issue to support@hrwiki.org. -- Tom 22:13, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Hosting

Hi Joey,

You're doing incredible work and I love your content. I'm the new CEO of Wikia.com and I'm trying to build the best place on the internet for all passionate wiki users. I had a few thoughts for you.

• I'm not a user but if it's okay I can make a small personal donation to the site
• We offer wiki hosting and are currently on mediawiki 1.7, so we'd love to host your site if you were interested
• We are normally ad supported, but in your case we might make some sort of exception, either by leaving ads off for the first year or so, or some other idea if that made a difference
• We also have a ton of tools for preventing spam and vandalism - I see you've had to add graphical logos to each edit page, which is a bummer
• I hope I'm not offending you with the offer, so if nothing else, leave me a message at Wikia on my userpage Gil and I will make a small donation to your site, so you can keep doing great work.

Cheers

Gil, thanks so much for your generous offer. Angela has tempted us with this offer before, but we have a strong desire to remain independant. We are very proud to do what we do on our own, and like to remain in complete control of the server and the software. Thanks again. -- Tom 22:12, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Images

Hey Joey. Y'know, I've thought for a long time how you made those great images such as the logos, the backgrounds in the main page, and so on. DFid you get them from somewhere. Or did you construct them yourself? The reaosn I'm asking is that I'm trying to trying to consturct a new main page idea for the Fanstuff Wiki, and I was wondering if you knew how to make a Pom Pom background much like the SB and Homestar ones. Cheers! — seriously talk 17:34, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

HRFWiki:Flashkit

I would greatly appreciate it if you would take a look at that page. --_{NERD42  email  talk   h²g²  pedia  uncyc}  18:23, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Another fanstuff Wiki

Hello JoeyDay, The Mu has created another fanstuff wiki. Is that a bad thing?--H*Bad 05:03, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind, Tom answered my question for me.--H*Bad 05:16, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Frappr place

Hi Joey, I accidently deleted the place where you put the server in. Can you re-add it? — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 09:55, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

My fanstuff JS:

it just won't load on the fanstuff. Any ideas why? (Maybe it's a problem with the server upgrade, I don't know. Also, my new fanstuff name is Y2K, if it'll help.) --Y2K () 07:02, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Have you tried clearing your cache, by doing a refresh?--H*Bad 07:26, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I have. Customizations still don't work. --Y2K () 09:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Accually there might be a problem with the code, let me take a look at it.--H*Bad 13:22, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Ok, so it is your computer. I guess JoeyDay or whoever will have to help with this. Sorry.--H*Bad 13:35, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Try your Monobook.css --Dinoshaur 13:42, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Thats what he is using.--H*Bad 14:10, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

You may have to wait a day or so for the effects in your personal CSS and JS pages to appear. This is true most of the time. — Lapper (talk) 16:43, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Your name

Hi JoeyDay. Me and a few others are writing a story and I was wondering if I could get your permission to use your name in the story.--H*Bad 21:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Donated

Hi - I donated, but never got added to the list. See your donations page for my details. Gil

My forum account

Can you please unmark it inactive and rename it accordingly? --Y2K () 06:59, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Please post about your forum related issue in the Forum HelpDesk. -- Tom 16:45, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

How? What I'm saying is that I can't log in to the forum because my forum account has been marked inactive! --Y2K () 07:18, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Unless I am mistaken, there is an area of the forum that allows anonymous posting, no? - Qermaq - (^T/C)  09:10, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Exactly right Qermaq, and that area is the Forum HelpDesk. -- Tom 12:07, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm afraid I actually can't post on the Forum HelpDesk. I've tried, and I still have to log in, which I can't. --Y2K () 04:09, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Have you tried making another account?--H*Bad 04:13, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Y2K, please email your forum acount details and a description of your forum related issue to support@hrwiki.org. -- Tom 04:27, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Wait. I just tried to post a new topic on HelpDesk, and was brought to a login page. So login seems required. Perhaps the forum settings should be reexamined. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  07:03, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

This was intentional. When the level of spam goes up in the forum, I disable anonymous posting in the help desk. It seems to be a popular target. I've re-enabled anonymous posting for now. Be advised that this may change... For best results you should try and get in touch with a mod/admin. They can help you out. — Stu My Talk23:40, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, I've sent the email. Thanks for reminding me. --Y2K () 07:16, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Sysopness

I was just wondering for no particular reason what my chances of becoming a sysop are. I couldn't tell from the user list what the ratio of legitimate users to sysops were, because most of the users seemed to be disposable accounts and sockpuppets. Flameviper 20:16, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

First, having some main namespace edits might help... For full details, check here, as this question is asked a lot. As for the ratio, yeah, it's hard to tell. --DorianGray

It's not that hard. According to Special:Statistics: There are 7,296 registered users, of which 23 (or 0.32%) are administrators. — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 21:28, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but of those users, how many are real? How many aren't sockpuppets or blocked vandals or whatever? And any maths is hard. --DorianGray

TodayborDay is JoeyDay's BirthdayborDay!

TodayborDay is BirthdayborDaybor! TodayborDay is BirthdayborDaybor! TodayborDay is BirthdayborDaybor! TodayborDay is a BirthdayborDaybor! TodayborDay! BirthdayborDay! JoeyDayborDay! BirthdayborDay! Come on everybody it's BirthdayborDay! Come on everybody it's a JoeyDayborDay! — It's dot com 17:03, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Happy T! or... B or birthday... TheThingé 17:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Herzliche Glückswünschen zum Geburtstag! Heimstern Läufer 17:14, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Mazal tov, Joey. And may you never get the black lung :). — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 17:18, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Sweet, sweet Joey,

Today is the day on your user page.

Now, get upstairs....unh!

And fix me some breakfast. – The Chort 17:20, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday, Joey. Or as they say around the office: Hppy B-day. -Stinkoman K^Talk 17:47, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Happy birthday, Joey. <insert birthday-themed H*R reference here> ¤ The Mü _{Talk to me.} 18:02, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday Joey Day. May your birtdays always be full of people making the "You have new messages" pop up.--H*Bad 18:28, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Happy JoeyDay from across The Pond (the other one!) Loafing 19:22, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Joyeux Anniversaire JoeyDay! -- Super Martyo boing! 19:27, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Happy birthday, Joey. — Lapper (talk) 22:13, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Aw, thanks all you guys. — Joey (talk·edits) 01:27, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Happy Belated B-Day! -Brightstar 01:52, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Um...What's Up?

Is work still going on with the Homestarrunner.net site? It's been the same for many months with no improvements. Is there just a lot of behind-the-scenes work, or have you just forgotten? When can we expect the full site to be put up? Thanks for any information. -AtionSong 16:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

It's just a lot of behind the scenes work. The reason why you don't see anything is because they haven't posted any links on the website.--H*Bad 19:05, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I found something at beta.homestarrunner.net... --Y2K () 10:47, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, alpha and beta have pretty much been running since late '05. It's going to be a Homestar Runner fan portal, and it'll be done when it's done. — Lapper (talk) 12:24, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

your input

Hey Joey,

I know you are busy right now getting the pledge drive going, but I was wondering if you could give your valuable and time sensitive input here.

I R F 15:31, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Help on committee

Haldo,
I am a web designer who knows his way around xml html css and many MANY other languages used on the site. How may I join the validation commitee? Do i just add my name to the list, or is there something i have to go through?
---Jmoney 21:55, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

This would be a question for the FAQ, so I'll take the liberty of answering it. I'm very glad you find yourself so confident in your coding know-how, and we would be honored to have you on the validation committee. Simply add your name to the list and help out where you can. — Lapper (talk) 21:58, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, and i am very proud of my coding ability. If I ever come of egotistical please tell me. -Jmoney 00:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

The Logo

The logo of your's good. Are you a magician or you've done it at Photoshop?

Oops, please revert.

I accidentaly made some modifications, very un inteligent as you will see, in sbemail#143, and they are mutliple times added. Also during this modification I added a pic, Explain_Jmoney_001.JPG. Sorry again. Please tell me if I will need to re add the chalk board comment & pic (that one was correct.) I will go clean it up a little for now, but revert it all plz. Sorry for the trouble (still new here.)
-Jmoney 23:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey Jmoney. Anyone can revert an edit, simply by pressing the tab that says history, clicking on the edited version before the one that you want to revert, clicking edit, and saving it. This will save the old page revision as a new one. There's a lot of awesome stuff that can be done with the history button, and they are all detailed here Also, I reverted it simply because it was bad staging, and not a glitch at all. Happy wiki-ing, - The Joe^(Talk) 23:46, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

D'ween list

Wow, you've got some awesome books on your list — Desiring God is on my top 10 list, and Evangelism and the Sovereignty of God is one of the most balanced reconciliations of human responsibility and "determinism" I've read. Hope you get 'em! Trey56 23:55, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Trey56. I've got a private wishlist on Amazon that's over 10 pages long (at 25 items per page). Much of the books are in a similar vein. You can also get a good idea of what I've read by checking out my LibraryThing catalog. Have you tried LibraryThing? It sounds like we would share many of the same books. You should start cataloging yours so I can see what you've read. — Joey (talk·edits) 21:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Help!

I just started a wiki for my fansite, DevonM.com (wiki is here), and I can't figure out how to make the main page boxes on the monobook like yours. Help me? Strong Devon 14:14, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank You page

Haldo Joey, I noticed that User:Lunar Jesters is not on HRWiki:Thank You!. Is there some reason he isn't? By the way, he requested that his real name not be used on the ledger, so Loafing went ahead and changed it. Might want to update your spreadsheet. —BazookaJoe 01:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah, probably just oversight on my part. There are a lot of names! I'm bound to miss one or two. I'll add him with the next round of names I'll be adding tonight. Cheers! — Joey (talk·edits) 02:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

InterWiki stuff

Hey, I'm a rather inexperienced wiki user, and I was just wondering how you work your interwiki and shortcut linking to have little icons next to all the links. I'm about to help create a wiki that could use a feature like that. Please respond by E-mail. --Mattgcn

Have a look at MediaWiki:Common.css – in particular, around halfway down, all the blocks that start with something like #bodyContent a[href ^="http://www.homestarrunner.com"]. That particular selector doesn't work in Internet Explorer, unfortunately (well, in IE6 at least, I haven't used IE7), but it does work in Firefox, and I'm pretty sure it works in Opera. Dunno about Safari. --phlip ^T_C 10:23, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Ooh, thanks alot! It's now being put into effect at WikiLemon and will be at DementiaWiki when it's made :D --Mattgcn

It does work in IE7, btw. — It's dot com 18:59, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

B-Day

When the next Chaps birthday is, could I be in on the card? peace- -- Lazylaces Talk 15:01, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Forum Troubles

Hey, I know you may not be the one to ask on this, but I recently got a new computer and while visiting the forum, I discovered that my IP had been banned. I know it's my IP, because I wasn't even able to log in. I don't see how that's possible, because this is like only the second day I've had it, and I didn't do anything on the forum on those two days. On a side note, I tried to log in on my Wiki account (Pop_tire), and it said there was no such account. I'm not sure what's going on, and would love (if anything), just some light on what's going on. If I did do anything, I'm sorry. ----

personal letter from matt chapman

are you the one that got the personal letter? if so, that is so completly awesome! by the way, I want to sign Mike's birthday card.user:haldo

Erm... Can I sign the D'ween card, then? sorry i missed your B-day, Mike Chapman... Haldo 20:47, 8 November 2007 (UTC)user:haldo

Happy Birthday!

Happy birthday! Thank you for bringing us these wonderful wikis! --Homestar tiger ^Geronimo!(From the HRFWiki) 14:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! — Joey (talk·edits) 03:51, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Is it still your birthday? Happy B if so. Happy B+1 if not. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  02:40, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Joey Day

Hey there, Joey. A few minutes ago I tried creating an article about the creator of my favorite wiki on Wikipedia, but now I copied some stuff from your user page and put it on there. Someone (actually a bot) said that they cannot keep this for legal reasons. Is this true? See ya,
Homestar-Winner (talk) 22:51, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Homestar Winner, but I've deleted this article. Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion require that articles have an assertion of notability, and being the founder of a website isn't really an assertion of notability (unless the website is something like Amazon, Google or Wikipedia itself). Heimstern Läufer 23:09, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, well. I still think you deserve your own article, but I gotta listen to them sysops (not you, the Wikipedia ones). Bye now, see? Homestar-Winner (talk) 23:16, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Wiki tips

Hey, Joey, I'm thinking about starting my own wiki. Any programs you would suggest? Don't say jorb 101

Yeah, I'd highly recommend MediaWiki. Cheers! — Joey (talk·edits) 23:14, 2 December 2007 (UTC)