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''This is a subpage of [[User talk:Jay]]. Do not add to the discussions here; if you wish to discuss an older issue, please place it on the original talk page under a new heading.'' ==newb question (sorry)== can anyone revert pages/is there a button to do so or can only mods do so..i cant find inf about this anywhere (also good job being fast in killing lame trollers in there tacks little kiddies dont need to see that type of language lol : This is how you revert: :# Click "history" at the top of the page. :# Click the timestamp of the last non-trolled edit. :# Click "edit" at the top of the page (it should give you a warning that you're editing an old version of the page.) :# Save it without making any changes. :And voila! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:42, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) :PS. Sysops like me can revert in another, quicker way. But anyone can revert using the above method. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) thumbs up* thanks for the quick answer ==Splitting even the small pages== Jay, did you REALLY have to split the email pages that had only one or two fun facts? That just makes things a lot more cluttered as far as layout goes. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:16, 17 Jan 2005 (MST) : Yes I did. Consistency. And it's not THAT cluttered, compared to the way that the newer emails used to be. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:45, 17 Jan 2005 (MST) == Mr. So-and-so-er-sad == Dear Jay, Did you know So and So's t-shirt has Strong Sad's face on it? [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 17:07, 20 Jan 2005 (MST) WOW! NO WAY! I hadn't noticed that! In no way is that already in the transcript that I wrote the first draft of in the first place! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:15, 20 Jan 2005 (MST) [[fingers|Frustration of frustrations! It's all they ever add!]] -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 23:07, 20 Jan 2005 (MST) == Updating standards == Hi there Jay. If you're still up for it, you can add those fun fact changes to the [[HRWiki:Standards]] page. I think that might ease your frustrations a bit.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:36, 26 Jan 2005 (MST) : Actually, this is my last update before I have to go to class. But if someone else doesn't, I may just add them in, oh, about an hour. Also, I'm in an easily-frustratable mood today (cat kept me up last night.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:40, 26 Jan 2005 (MST) ::Poor little kitty. Yeah, there is no rush. I think we can all wait a few hours or so.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:46, 26 Jan 2005 (MST) ::: More like poor little me when she doesn't want to let me sleep (which is fortunately not most nights.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:37, 30 Jan 2005 (MST) == I apologize == Ok, look Jay, I'm sorry I crapped up the sightings page. I might be able to save it. I saved the page before I edited it, like I always do. I think I can copy everything on that page I saved and paste it over the text I crapped up. It's risky, but it's worth a shot. [[User:unknown|unknown]] 3/22/05 10:01 :It has already been reverted. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:19, 23 Mar 2005 (MST) == Labor Dabor modification == The reason "SPARE!" is a phrase instead of a word is because it has punctuation (the exclamation mark) as part of it. Words don't come with any punctuation attached to them, which is why I thought it should be referred to as a phrase as opposed to a word. Just for the sake of backing up my argument, I'd like to say that it IS possible for a phrase to consist of just one word. That is to say, if it had just been "SPARE", then I would certainly agree with you that it was just a word. -- [[User:Whybrid|Whybrid]] 15:07, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT) == Pom Pom is a Player. == Much of the humor of Pom Pom revolves around the idea that he is a real ladies man. I feel very sure that this... "*When Homestar says that some lady gave Pom Pom a hundred bucks, it is likely a reference to the house that was giving out change, as mentioned in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]." ... is not correct. It has nothing to do with The House that Gave Sucky Treats How would it be appropriate to say that one of Pom Pom's many "girlfriends" gave him money for some mysterious reason? The brothers Chaps are trying to be risqué here, but how much does hrwiki want the implications of their suggestiveness to be spelled out? : Because Pom Pom's many girlfriends live on the Isle of Pom, of course! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:20, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT) == Baleeted! == Thanks for detrolling my page! <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 19:33, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT) * Anything for a beautiful woman!* --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:50, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT) <small>* - I don't know that you're beautiful, and even though all evidence seems to point that way, I don't even technically know that you're a woman. But you're a fellow HR Wikipedian with a lot of useful edits, and that's gotta count for something. :p</small> <small>**Second {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:09, 19 May 2005 (UTC)</small> == Oops! == Sorry. I thought benedetto was blenedetto. Wrong me bes = very yes. == Fun Fact Deletion == Comment: Take it easy on the 'fun fact deletion'. Someone thought it was worthwhile enough to type in. --R :Please don't take it personally if I delete a Fun Fact. There are lots of reasons I might delete one. :# It's already on the page somewhere. :# It doesn't add anything to the article. :# It's outright wrong. :# It's currently on the STUFF page. :I suspect it was a #2 that you're talking about. Believe me, I'm a lot less picky about what Fun Facts can stay than some users here - I don't think Trogga is happy unless he deletes fifty less-than-perfect facts a day, for instance. It's not meant as a personal insult if I delete a fact that you added - just be sure you're giving meaningful additions to the pages first. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:24, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC) :PS. Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the [[STUFF]] page. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:27, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Response == I can't control the dead links that appear in my posts. For some reason my home computer turns random words into dead links and mangles pages. I don't know what's causing it and neither does tech support. That's why I only use my laptop for Wiki submissions. If the dead links return please tell me because it means there’s something wrong with ‘top too. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]] :I would recommend downloading and running SpyBot and AdAware, if you haven't already. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:18, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC) ::I added that note to your (The Pardack's) talk page before I knew that it was adware adding the links. As I have seen it from many other non-malicious users, I apologize for making it sound as though it was intentional. Anyway, one of the programs in Aurora's message should tell you what to do. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:32, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Email == Hi there Jay. Would you mind sharing your email address with me? Shoot one over to [mailto:tom@hrwiki.org tom@hrwiki.org], and I'll explain everything. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:14, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) : Sent. It's a fidnet.com address (but I'm not saying what the first part is here - call me paranoid.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:45, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) ==Nomination== Just here to say "you're welcome" for nominating you for sysop, and telling you that I do believe fuly that you are the best candidate for the job. You're welcome! -- <tt>_{<span style="color:#cc3333;">Posted by:</span>} [[User:-erson|<span style="color:#000066;">-erson</span>]] ^{[[User talk:-erson|<span style="color:#cc3333;">Talk</span>]]}</tt> 22:44, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) : Yeah, I intentionally made no edits to my own nomination (in case I said something dumb ;) but I really should have thanked you for your support. Thanks! May no spammer escape my wrath, no troll left unreverted. :p --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:49, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) ::Speaking of which, you should have been on yesterday at about 10:00pm. There were two major trolls messing up every page they could find. I was the only one on revertign them, I was completely busy for a half hour when Dr.Haggis came on and blocked them. I really needed some help! Oh well, its past now. -- <tt>_{<span style="color:#cc3333;">Posted by:</span>} [[User:-erson|<span style="color:#000066;">-erson</span>]] ^{[[User talk:-erson|<span style="color:#cc3333;">Talk</span>]]}</tt> 22:52, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) ::: Unfortunately, I was at work around that time last night (assuming you're relatively close to my time zone). Wiki screening and editing is a hobby of mine, but it doesn't pay the bills. ;) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:55, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) ::::Yay for Jay being sysop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- <tt>_{<span style="color:#cc3333;">Posted by:</span>} [[User:-erson|<span style="color:#000066;">-erson</span>]] ^{[[User talk:-erson|<span style="color:#cc3333;">Talk</span>]]}</tt> 12:18, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) ==Auto Email Confirmation== Thanks, it's good to have a resident historian within our midst. I myself was only introduced to H*R late August 2003, so I've always been interested in the history of its changes over the years, since I've missed out on so much. But thank you for the confirmation, good to know it wasn't just some phony's made up message. (Oh, and btw, my website source is the same one I used for H*R updates 2003, '02, and '01. It's pretty accurate, so I've trusted most everything said on it). ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt>'' 03:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC) :Thanks, and according to the page, the GIF of the mouse on Strong Bad's Website is the gateway to this short. But I guess, like [[Strong Sad's Secret Styles|The Secrets That I Keep]], this was also origionally the automated e-mail egg, later stuck somewhere else on the site. Thanks alot man, that was really bugging me. (Oh, and thanks for adding the Fun Fact to the Page). ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt>'' 03:23, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Sysop == Just letting you know, you have been given [[HRWiki:Administrators|sysop]] privileges. If you have any questions, never hesitate to ask. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:32, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) :Congratulations man, you deserve it! I guess that means you outrank me now, eh... Sir? '''EDIT:''' Yea, just slightly. It was a way of covering my severe dissapointment. Read about my story of what happened on my talk page... And I still outrank you by about three months. :-P ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt>'' 00:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) ::Congrats! I knew you would be! -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 01:21, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) :::Thanks! (Though Thunderbird's "outrank me" mark was a LITTLE premature - congrats to you too!) I'm testing out my new powers by deleting a page I obsoleted yesterday. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:23, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) ::Yeah, I suspect I might be the "youngest" sysop (as in, most recent joined), but I don't know when furrykef joined so I could be wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:37, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) :::According to [[User:InterruptorJones]], I joined Mar. 18, 2004. So I'm one of the old hands, I'm just not usually around. But there are still tons of ways to get my attention (my Wikipedia talk page, e-mail, etc.) - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 01:53, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) ::::I joined February 11, 2004. I think I'm the oldest sysop, if we're talking about join dates. IJ came a couple of hours later after me. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>'' :::::Yea, Firebird's kinda an interesting case of senority. He's been around the longest, yet he's still probably the youngest. But I respect him. He's got my followingship. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt>'' 02:03, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) ::::::November 12, 2004 for me, according to this page's history. But I might not be the youngest after all - FortyTwo apparently joined in December! (Though he hasn't made any edits recently, his username still has sysop rights.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:04, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) ==New Big Project To Break In Our Newfound Sysopness== Fellow Sysops, I call thee! How would you guys like to help on a big new project I came up with? The idea is on the Main Page talk, at the bottom, and has already been approved by Tom. Let me know on my talk page, especially with a good idea for the page title. Thanks. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt>'' 02:00, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) :'''EDIT:''' Seems like the conversation exploded [[User Talk:FireBird|here]] instead. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt>'' 03:00, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) :: I saw, but I don't really feel like joining in this project right this minute. Perhaps later. Good luck, though! --[[User:Jay|<font color=#9090FF>''Jay''</font>]] [[User talk:Jay|<font color=#006030><small>(Talk)</small></font>]] 03:02, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) ==Time To Split?== Since you've done so much splitting, you wanna split [[A Mother's Day Message|this]]? I'm not much for it myself. Thanks. (If I see any others in my travels, I'll add 'em here too, if you don't mind doing the job). ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔</font>]][[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>Thunderbird</font>]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔</font>]]</tt>'' 09:27, 1 May 2005 (UTC) *[[A Mother's Day Message]] *[[Bronco Trolleys]] *[[Teen Girl Squad]] (at least issues Two, Three, Four, and probably more) ==The First Time== I don't want to get into a reversion war, but ... the thing I'm trying to say is that the keg (a keg?) first appeared in an email in [[helium]]. The "other" appearances, whether in an email or a toon, are irrelevant (at least for determining the item prices). No mention is made of the numerous "other" apperances of the other items at the sale. Just thought I'd explain my thinking. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:36, 2 May 2005 (UTC) : But it implies that the keg first appeared in helium, when [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] far precedes it. No other mentions are made of the other items because they're either extremely common (like Marzipan's Answering Machine) or their first appearance in an email happened to be their first appearance anyway. And anyway, I've cut it down to "and other places", which doesn't take up a lot of space. --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 17:39, 2 May 2005 (UTC) ::I don't mean to put too fine a point on this, but ... only the first '''email''' appearance is what's important here: it's what was used to determine the price. The explanation above specifies that. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:43, 2 May 2005 (UTC) :::Then we might as well remove the "Cheat Commandos Commercial" link from those toys and the "3 Times Halloween Funjob" link from the candle... See where I'm going with this? --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 17:48, 2 May 2005 (UTC) ::Actually, a table might be a better way to present the items and first email appearance. Just an idea. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC) :::Prehaps, Monaco. </senorcardgage> But what would the table look like? What info would it provide? Item, price, first email appearance, buyer, special note? Would that really fix this issue? --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 17:48, 2 May 2005 (UTC) == Your Friends == "The fact about your friends not being in personal favorites is currently in STUFF. Even though it seems as though STUFF may not last, for the time being it's still up for now. Please do not add the fact until the voting is concluded." Okay, I understand. I guess I was being a bit too stubborn about it. I'll cast my vote as well. Sorry again. :) -SBEmail22 == Garage Sale nitpix == Hello Jay! * Graw Mad = Strong [MB]ad, sorry dude, my mad. :) The phrase was "'Graw Mad' is Strong Bad's nickname for [[Strong Mad]]" and my eyes deceived me so all I saw was "'Graw Mad' is Strong Bad's nickname". Thanks for catching that. :) * Benendetto Prostrate: I see your point that such a phrase might personify it too much; I was only trying to disambiguate that the popcorn popper was not in fact upright in the foreground. Any other ideas? 10x<BR> [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 06:01, 3 May 2005 (UTC) : Fair enough - I edited the Bennedetto line in a way that didn't make him seem any more human than H*R already did, and still pointed out his position. And the "Graw Mad" thing is understandable, but a little humorous (sorry about my sarcasm in the summary). --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 06:06, 3 May 2005 (UTC) : Make it daaaance, MAKE IT PRAAAANCE! -- uhh.. I'll make that popcorn machine dance and prance later big guy. [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 06:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC) == Screenshots == Hey, I was just wondering, what was the reason for the deletion of all my Strong Bad E-mail screenshots? -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:11, 8 May 2005 (UTC) :Except in a few special cases, we only need one screenshot per transcript. Any more and the transcripts become cluttered. Anyway, I only deleted them - I wasn't the one who removed them from the articles. --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 04:16, 8 May 2005 (UTC) == Why the reversion? == Just curious - why did you back out my Real-World Reference addition to "caffeine?" Is it because I stated it as fact instead of speculation? : "Solid as a rock" is a very very common phrase that FAR predates Ashford and Simpson's song. --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 01:33, 10 May 2005 (UTC) == Unblock == I see you've unblocked somebody before. How is this done? Trogga needs to be reduced down to 24 hours, not 48. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>'' * Open up [[Special:Ipblocklist]], hit "unblock" next to the user. Took me a while to figure it out too. :p --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 01:07, 12 May 2005 (UTC) :Thanks. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>'' == Re:CAPS to ''Italics'' == My mistake. But shouldn't that be mentioned in the [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] page? It only tells what to do with the messages from the sender, but not Strong Bad's response to it. --[[User:Uh! Bob|_{<tt>'''''Úħ¡ βøв'''''</tt>}]] 21:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC) == Blockage? == Dude, you keep on blocking me because you say "I keep asking for a dollar?" What does that mean. Some a-might be thieving my identity or something. Can you clarify what you meant? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] : I didn't block your screen name (obviously). Three different IP addresses asked for a dollar on article pages, over and over again. If you have an IP address that changes a lot, you might have hit one of them totally by accident - which would have blocked you too. But you're obviously posting, and two of the three IP addresses were blocked indefinitely. Why is it you believe ''you'' were blocked? --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC) : [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Bug_In_Mouth_Disease&diff=81119&oldid=81111 Here] is an example of one of the three IP addresses' "dollar" requests. --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 02:18, 17 May 2005 (UTC) *DuDe! I swear I didn't do that! When I got blocked, I hadn't even heard about Bug in Mouth Disease! I think someone's a-been fwamin' a-my butt. AGH! I'm so irritated! I just explained this exact case to [[Tom]]! I've got rings around me eyes! ** I never said you did - I only said that it happened. Can't you tell [[User:Tom|Tom]] your IP number on his [[User talk:Tom|talk page?]] --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:43, 21 May 2005 (UTC) == Personal THanks == Thanks for helping me out! I'm glad this place is so noob-friendly! --[[User:Tony Stony|<font color=green>T<small>ony</small> S<small>tony</small>]]^{[[User talk:Tony Stony|talk}</font>]] :We're all new once. As long as you don't do something troll-worthy, I have nothing against newbies. --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 02:08, 17 May 2005 (UTC) ==STUFF reform== Jay, thank you for your suggestions. They have been quite helpful. Would you mind taking [[User:It's_dot_com/STUFF_reform|another look]] at the page? I think I have ''vastly'' improved the source code, and I've incorporated your ideas for revising facts. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:06, 18 May 2005 (UTC) ==Siggie== Hey Jay. I just thought I'd pass a bit of [[User:JoeyDay|Joey Day]] wisdom on to you about sigs. Have you tried the template meathod? Basically it lets you shorten your code left behind, and lets you change ALL your sigs at the same time. You just put your sig code on a subpage of your userpage, (e.g. 'User:Jay/sig' or something). Then in your prefferances box, put <nowiki>{{User:Jay/sig}}</nowiki>. And that's all there is to it. It changed my life man, spread the word! {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC) :That sounds like a cool idea. Lemme try it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:44, 19 May 2005 (UTC) ==Rally's Checkers== Hey, Jay, in TGS1, Strong bad makes a reference to Rally's and Checkers. Now, I know these places are in fact the same food chain (or at least they have been since 1999). I've been to both, ordered from both, even seen commecials from both, and except for the name, the places are identical. However, when I try to put this fact in "Real World References," it keeps getting, to quote Strong Bad, "DELETED!" Why is that? -- [[User:Redmond|Redmond]] 14:50 EDT, May 23 2005 : Because anyone could just click on the links to find out the information! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:28, 23 May 2005 (UTC) == Why revert? == Uh, why did you revert my removal of a &lt;pre&gt; section in [[long pants]]? [[User:JoeyDay]] has stated that we need to start replacing pre with blockquotes. (I'm referring to the accurate revert, where you left the emails formatted but not the egg.) &mdash; [[User:Jesse's Girl|Jesse's Girl]] 19:20, 27 May 2005 (UTC) : I thought he only meant the emails - I didn't realize there was any consensus to un-pre anything else. Though if you can show me where I'm wrong then I'll shut up. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:22, 27 May 2005 (UTC) :: It's [[Talk:Main_Page#New_blockquote_style...]]. BTW, Joey's opinion overrides any "consensus". On [[Talk:Strong Bad Email]] he said: ''pre is the wrong way to quote material. We should come up with a default style for blockquote and use that for everything.'' Also, see [[User:JoeyDay]]. If there's still any doubt, though, we can ask him. &mdash; [[User:Jesse's Girl|Jesse's Girl]] 19:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC) ::: Yeah, I just saw that myself. Go ahead, but I think a generic blockquote isn't any better than pre - maybe worse. (Note that the emails do NOT use a generic blockquote.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC) ::::I'm with Jay. The <code>&lt;pre&gt;</code> tags are currently better than the generic blockquote. This could be changed, however. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:26, 27 May 2005 (UTC) P.S. Although Joey's opinion commands a ''tremendous'' amount of weight (as it rightly should), he himself has said several times that he respects the consensus of other users, and that this wiki does not belong to him. Otherwise, he wouldn't have asked anybody's opinion, he would simply have made the changes himself. :::::Actually, on the page [[User:JoeyDay]] he has stated that he still does own the wiki, but that he considers it the property of the community. So while I see your point, I'm afraid I agree with Joey. I will continue to use &lt;blockquote&gt; to replace pre. [[User:Jesse's Girl|Jesse's Girl]] 11:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) == E-mail: Rampage (edits) == So apparently my edits have been reverted without even giving a glance to my explanation. Yes, I *know* Marzipan says "would be" twice. This point has been discussed extensively on the BHZ forums. One of the theories there was that Marzipan was referring to one "Geoff Chaucerwouldbe". This is plausible because the Brothers Chaps have a history of inventing/twisting around real-life names for the H*R universe (one example is Hoofton Mifflin in the colonization email). Please read the comments and explanations before automatically reverting edits. *I ''did'' read it. I rejected it. You haven't provided any support for this theory, and the H*R Wiki is not the place for random speculation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:17, 27 May 2005 (UTC) Ah, all right. I thought it worthy of mention, but apparently it is not. == SBemail style conversion == Good jorb, Jay. By my count, we each did almost exactly half of the email style conversion (I just barely edged you out), with one or two random users doing a few. I don't know whether it makes a difference, but the classes of blockquote are "email" and "tandy email". There are no special definitions for "compy" and "lappy". I'm sure the software just ignores the extra words, so no big deal. You wondered about the "short" version: All it does is make the box a certain width for really brief emails, like "[[i she be]]". That way, Strong Bad's head shows a little more. You mentioned having Homestar's head for a couple of them. I also think this is a good idea. In the meantime, I took SB's head out where it didn't belong, for example in "[[anything]]". [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:44, 27 May 2005 (UTC) :Good work, Jay and It's dot com. It really looks nice. I've been with you two all afternoon, patrolling all your edits. I also edited the almost-forgotten [[Arcade Game]]. Again, good work. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:07, 27 May 2005 (UTC) ::Thanks, BazookaJoe. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] : I WAS aware of the non-difference that "compy" and "lappy" made, but I put them in on the off chance that we actually DO something with them later (we may not, but since it didn't affect anything, I figured that it didn't hurt.) Should we ever change our minds that way, it's better to put them in now than later. And, really, all it really affected was me typing six extra characters per email (counting the space.) Thanks to you guys too, as well as everyone else who helped! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC) ::I had a feeling that you did that with forward-compatibility in mind. That's good thinkin'. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC) ==Pettiness, Jay?== Hey, Jay, why is it that you can't accept the fact that the Change of Pace fun fact was accepted? And why are you exercising the power to continue to challenge it? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:29, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC) * I've given my reasons. It's a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:36, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC) **He's not the only one. You guys accepting that fact is rediculous and not based in reality. Just because you vote "yea" to something does not make it true. Just because if given the vote humanity would vote to live forever, it aint gonna happen. No matter how much people ''want'' this to be a reference, it just aint so. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:00, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC) ***My friends, just because you vote "decline" on something does not make it false. (See my additional comments on the [[Talk:do_over#IMMEDIATE_contesting_of_an_Accepted_fact|"do over" talk page]].) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC) ****Look, people...there are plenty of fun facts that have been accepted that are pure coincidence. Those weren't challenged. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:38, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) ***** For example? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:37, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) ****** Or... instead of providing more examples and starting whole new arguments, we could ''lay this issue to rest''. The votes have been counted&mdash;and recounted&mdash;and all of the eloquent argumets from both sides of the discussion aren't doing anything to budge anybody's opinion. I'm sorry that in this case you happen to disagree with the majority, but sometimes that happens. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:03, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) ******* Just because the majority accepts it doesn't make it true. And contesting a Fact is perfectly legitimate. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) ******** I'll admit the case for the fact is circumstantial, but&mdash;I'll say once more&mdash;circumstantial ''does not equal'' false. I know I'm not going to convince you to change your mind on this, just as I know you won't change the minds of all those who voted to accept (I myself am closer to the middle). The point I'm trying to make is that ''we should stop trying''. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:28, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) ********* There's talk on [[Talk:do over]] to contact TBC themselves. I have a feeling they won't respond, but it's worth a try. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) *I can give a few examples. Beverly Sportsinterviews ring a bell? That couldn't have been a legitimate reference to Beverly Cleary, yet it was accepted. The "Silent J" fun fact was not only coincidental, but it was a "could be" fun fact, and that was accepted. And of course, even though this hasn't been verdicted yet, the Chris Latta reference STUFF I put up, which, while not coincidental, is being accepted because everyone is missing the point of the STUFF, meaning I don't think it's a direct reference to Latta. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) ** I disagree about Beverly Cleary/Sportsinterviews. I don't see how "Silent J" could NOT be referring to "Jay and Silent Bob" (despite my name, I don't watch it, but it fits. Especially given SB's comment.) And let me check the details of the Chris Latta thing. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:23, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) *** As for the Chris Latta name, you can go ahead and drop Latta's name but the connection to Cobra Commander fits like a glove, ESPECIALLY given the nature of The Cheat Commandos. "Change of Pace" is unconnected - it's a joke that's been done before in things that have nothing to do with Family Guy, and if anything, the coincidental timing makes me think it's LESS likely to be the case - they may have been working on the email while Family Guy was on. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) ****Still, Jay, if 16 people voted to accept it, you should just let it slide. There's a lot worse crap on the wiki than that. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:54, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC) ==And if isn't a prop, and on the wiki...?== Jay, then it could very well be listed as a minor cast member, perhaps? [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 3:43 PM EDT June 3 2005 : It IS a prop. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) == A previous message to me == OK I usually just add to discussions and for so long was not a member. It was also mainly for the ability for people to know the person to ask about it and things. It's wahst I have had a legacy for on many websites and mmorpgs despite anyone elses attempts to stop me or the opinions of them on what I do. But I commend you, you do seem to be a decent person. == "scriGGy"-scroll? == Jay, You reverted my correction of "scriggy-scroll" to "scribby-scroll" for the scroll buttons song. It really sounds like "scribby-scroll" to me. What evidence do you have that it's "scriggy-scroll"? Shawn81 :Sure sounds like "scriggy-scroll" to me. <small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small> 17:51, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC) :Sounds like "scriggy-scroll" to a lot of people. That is why he changed it. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC) :I'm sorry, I just don't hear it. It clearly sounds like "scribby-scroll" to me. Plus, a Google search of both terms returns 554 hits for "scribby-scroll" but only 320 for "scriggy-scroll", so the general consensus appears to be in favor of scribby-scroll. Thoughts? &mdash;[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 18:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::I don't know where you're getting "scribby" from. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 19:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC) :::Until about 90 seconds ago, I thought it said "scribby", too. However, upon further review, I am in the "scriggy" camp. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:44, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC) :::: Uh, yeah. Anything else I need to add? --{{User: Jay/sig}} 20:06, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC) :::::Ok, I guess you guys win. I still don't hear it, though... &mdash;[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 22:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC) == "BACK OFF BABY" == Jay, You also removed the section from StrongBadZone that details how to hear the "BACK OFF BABY" sequence by opening the right-click Flash menu after Vector Strong Bad says "YOUR HEAD A SPLODE". You claim that it doesn't work, but it ''does'' work for me, and apparently for some other people too. I think that we should leave it up there with a modification that it works for some people. Perhaps we should determine what systems it works on? I would like to hear your thoughts on this. Shawn81 :Fair enough. Or perhaps it was a poor/incomplete description. If you're certain it works for you, add it back, but I couldn't get it to work at all. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC) :: It's possible that it's a Mac thing, though my friend [[User:Adam|Adam]] said that on his PC he hears the beginning of it and then it just returns to the game. &mdash;[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 23:03, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Why Did You Have To? == Dude, why did you block me? OK, so all I did was add stubs. What's wrong with that? Can you at least warn me that it was bad to stub pages? I mean, come on! I am new to this website. --[[User:The Ugly One]] :I did who on the what now? I don't remember ever blocking you. If you're an AOL user, you probably got blocked because your dynamic IP address hit a previous block. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:07, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) :: Wait, looking at the Block list, I think I see who you are now. And if I'm right, you were blocked because you stubbed [[The Cheat]] about fifty times over - when a page DOES get stubbed, it only needs to be stubbed once. In addition, only pages that really need it (like, not [[The Cheat]]) should be stubbed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:50, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) == IP Userpages == Hey Jay, sorry to add to your business at the moment. Am I correct in thinking that it is Wiki policy that anonymous IP adresses cannot have a userpage? If so, I have about 20 ip userpages that I could mark for deletion right now. Would that be all right? --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) : They can have Talk pages, but not User pages. If any such pages exist, feel free to mark 'em with the TBD mark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:49, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::Understood. Thank you. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:50, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) User:203.220.174.232 is a redirect to [[User:dot egg]]. Delete User:203.220.174.232? My guess is yes, but just making sure. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:00, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) : As you've probably guessed by now, I've voted in the affirmative here. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:04, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::That was fun. We just deleted 20 user pages exactly, just like my estimate! Most of them seemed to be from the Oct/Nov 2004 days. Well, it's time to call it a night. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:11, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Sorry == Sorry, I didn't know that stubbing blocks people. The Ugly One [[User:The_Ugly_One]] : It doesn't. But putting "stub" on a page dozens of times over does. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:57, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Oranges == So how did you delete "Oranges"? I sure couldn't figure it out! <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 22:55, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC) :From Mr. IP's "Contributions" page, I clicked "History" for the "Oranges" page. This opened up the History instead of the page itself, but "Delete" was still an option! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:57, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::Ah, clever. Nicely done. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 23:11, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC) == STUFF testing == I was about to invite you and a bunch of others to help test the new STUFF, and I see you're already doing it! ;) Don't you ever sleep?! What time zone are you in? (I'm UTC &ndash;5.) Check out the [[HRWiki:stuff test index|stuff test index]] if you haven't already. Thanks for helping! &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:47, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) : Sleep? I've heard of that. Anyway, I live in American Central time, but I have unusual sleeping habits. My sleep is mostly in the morning. Have you seen the error I found yet? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:48, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::If you mean on "test marzipan", yes I have. External links cause problems for the template... I don't know why. Removing the link let's it work properly. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:53, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::: No, no. Not the external link. The equal sign IN the external link. I tried just plugging a random equal sign into the fact (after removing the links) and it did the same thing. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:55, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::::Must be because you can assign variables in a template using an equals sign. I've started a [[HRWiki:STUFF/help|help page]] for users to refer to when things like this happen. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:04, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) I'm going to make about half a dozen test pages for people to use. Please don't add <tt><nowiki>{{checkstuffpage}}</nowiki></tt> to those pages; that way, others can try it out from scratch. I'm thinking that if everything goes well, we can begin converting the real STUFF page to the new format tomorrow (Thursday) night, or Friday at the latest. ''{checks time}'' What the crap! It's 3 AM already!? I'm going to be dead on my feet tomorrow at work. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:23, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Wait, why'd you do that? == I added what I thought was a pretty valid comment to the Dangeresque 3 e-mail. But it wasn't there for even half a minute and you deleted it. Given the precedent for facts about things that are only in the flash files making it into Fun Facts, I didn't think there was any real reason to run it all the way through the STUFF. I just thought it would be interesting for people to know. But you deleted it! Why'd you do that? --Also, am I doing this "discussion" thing right? I've never done this before. I hope I'm right in just clicking that "+" at the top of the screen and typing in. :Memory needs refreshing; I've been busy editing, ironically enough, the STUFF process. Hold on. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:00, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC) :Ah, yes. Flash artifacts (for instance, things that don't exist outside of the frame - totally invisible to the watcher normally - but "should" be there) = big no-nos. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:01, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::So is there any place at all to put those kinds of things? ::: Not on the Wiki, no. It's part of our [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] not to include Flash artifacts, because otherwise, we'll have facts about characters missing limbs and objects disappearing left and right. Sorry. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:22, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::::Huh. I was thinking about that mustachioed Homestar from Senorial day when I mentioned the precedent, but apparently I needed to read up more. ::::: That's a special case. Let me put it this way: TBC leave stuff out outside the frame all the time. Often, multiple times per cartoon. They DON'T usually put extra stuff outside the frame that's never seen inside - Homestar's moustache being a prime example, so those get noted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:48, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Fact to STUFF == Hey there, I have a quick question, and I've seen you a lot around the wiki, so I decided to try asking you. For the [[no loafing]] email, there is a fun fact in the goofs section, "Strong Bad says "the kinds that have like whales or sunsets or windsurfers on em," but does not type the word "like".", which I think shouldn't be there because Strong Bad does that regularly. I'[m not exactly sure the format and things to add a new fun fact to the STUFF page, and I'm not even sure if I'm allowed to, so if you could add taht one, taht'd be great. Thanks [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 16:56, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) :First of all, you are certainly allowed to STUFF your own facts. Everyone is. I wen't ahead and took care of it for you, but take a look at the instructions for [[HRWiki:STUFF/Newpage|new STUFF pages]] or [[HRWiki:STUFF/Newfact|additional STUFF items]] so you'll know what I did. If it's still not clear, check out the [[HRWiki:STUFF/Help|help page]], or you can post a question on the [[HRWiki_talk:STUFF/Help|help talk page]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:31, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Revert your last == Jay, please revert your last change to [[Template:stuffverdict]]. The link back to the index was left off on purpose. First, on the STUFF page, if you're seeing the verdict then it's because you're already on the index. If you ''do'' happen to be on a subpage, it's because there's an open fact for the same toon, and in that case you can click the link there. Second, the verdict template is actually designed to end up on a toon's talk page, where a link back to the STUFF index is unnecessary and undesirable. Thanks. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:34, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC) : Only that last point sways me, though it IS a fair one - the very reason I put it on was because I DID end up on a subpage that only had one VERDICT'd fact and found no link when I wanted to go to the main STUFF page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:38, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC) :: I have a hunch you arrived at the page in that manner because you were patrolling edits... something the everyday user isn't likely to be doing. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:44, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::: True, but then there is the subject of typos. Someone makes a typo, another user corrects it, and there's no convenient link back. I see where you're coming from, but it seems less consistent to have the link on some facts and not on others, even if there IS a pattern to it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:46, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::: Okay, fine. For right now, I'll change it back. But the minute someone else notices and complins about it, and they DIDN'T get there from the "Recent changes" page, I'm going to put the link straight back if some other sysop doesn't. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:51, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::::I can see how someone might end up there by fixing a typo, but these cases would be relatively rare. In that instance, one should just press Back twice in his or her browser. (That is, an open STUFF fact is edited often, and the link back to the index is quite a convenient tool because it gets used with almost every edit. On the other hand, a closed fact ''might'' be corrected for a typo ''once'', if at all.) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:10, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Flagrant Error == Come on, it's appeared 3 times. Why do you keep reverting my edits? --[[User:ColorPrinter|ColorPrinter]] 15:59, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC) : Inside jokes are usually things that are obscure, there's no page for it, and it's actually appeared '''four''' times. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:00, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC) : Well, it should have a page...--[[User:ColorPrinter|ColorPrinter]] 16:01, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC) :: Yes, but I think it should go on [[:Category:Running Gags|Running Gags]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:04, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::Okay. Sorry I got steamed. But where should I put the link to the page?--[[User:ColorPrinter|ColorPrinter]] 16:05, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC) :: It's all right. I've had a tendency to be a little more blunt than usual lately myself. Adding <nowiki>[[Category:Running Gags]]</nowiki> to any page would add it to the appropriate Category. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:07, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Deletion template == As per your idea, I made a deletion template for talk pages <nowiki>{{talktobedeleted}}</nowiki>. This can go on talk pages when the article is going to be deleted. You like? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 07:15, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC) :Works for me. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:20, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC) == Gimme a Reason, or CUT IT OUT! == Look, I know that some facts, references and other things that people put up are sometimes wrong. I know that. But I noticed something in [[other days]] that has merit, and I'd like to share it with other people. Let me refresh you memory. It was about the collections agency letter. So, WHY do you think it shouldn't be there? I want a real answer, otherwise you can leave it alone and let it be. Be prompt. : Why do you think it should? There's absolutely no connection, besides a reference to a DIFFERENT "collections agency". Put it on [[STUFF]] if you think it's really notable. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:53, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC) :Did you see what I said on [[Talk:other days]]? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:56, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC) ::Okay, Dracula, editing other users' comments on Talk pages is NOT cool. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:03, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC) :I did that? Oops. I thought you did that, seeing as it's your page. Sorry bout that one. I was wondering why my original post didn't change. Sorry Coder, and yes, I saw what you wrote, AFTER I posted this... Maybe I shouldn't have been so blunt, but it upsets me to see what I think is relevant just trashed. If you think it needs to be STUFF'd, how do I do that? And DON'T call me Dracula, kay?--[[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] :There are instructions on the [[STUFF]] page. And I thought you removed Aurora's comment on purpose, which is why I got sarcastic with you. Sorry about that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:10, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC) :Here, gave you a hand. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:16, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC) == Sorry == Sorry, I'll delete it right now. How do you delete an artical? : It's already been done now. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:15, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC) One question, why do you have such a grudge against the page? The reason I made it in first place is because there's too much information on the shirt to put it on the Homestar page. : I beg to differ. I feel that most of the information either belongs there, or isn't significant enough. Besides, Homestar wears the Star Shirt in almost every single toon. Do we have a page for Marzipan's dress? Or Strong Mad's singlet? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:25, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC) == DVD == Hey Jay, I couldn't tell if by "tomorrow" you meant Wednesday or Thursday, but I'm guessing Wednesday. I should get mine Thursday according to this. I think we should divide up the work so there's not so much to do. You can contact me at [mailto:it-s_dot_com@hotmail.com it-s_dot_com@hotmail.com] once the wiki goes 509. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:31, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) :I could also transcribe ''some'' stuff this weekend. [mailto:bazookajoe1337@gmail.com bazookajoe1337@gmail.com]. Or find me on IRC. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:36, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) ::Won't the IRC go down, too? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] :::No. The IRC channel is registered on FreeNode's IRC server. IRC is completely seperate from this website. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:41, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) ::::Well, that's certainly good to know. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:43, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) ::::: Wednesday (today), BTW. When do you expect the Wiki to die? It's already lasted longer than last month. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 13:34, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) ::::: Never mind; I saw Tom's comment on that other page. If I get the DVD before the Wiki dies, and we're all around, we can discuss it here. Else, I'll e-mail you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 13:37, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) ::::::Cool. I figured we could make a list of the commentaries/bonus features and then divide them amongst at least the three of us. That way the load is shared but we're not inadvertently duplicating each other's work. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:59, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) :::::::I am getting my DVD soon, can I help? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} ::::::::I just checked my tracking info again, and they've updated it with a new date... It's in town now and on the truck for delivery! Yay! &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:56, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) ::::::::Curses, mine is probably coming on Friday. Stupid, freaking Fedex two day shiping that I thought was way to expensive. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} : I already have it and have been watching various commentaries and bonus features. Nothing transcribed yet. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:02, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) :: Would you make a list of the commentaries and bonus stuff that need to be transcribed. Then we can divide up the list. (Tom predicted the wiki would go 509'd at noon, and currently it's 12:06 ET, so we're runnin' on empty here.) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:06, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) So far, I've found commentaries on every email I've checked, but I haven't checked all of them (thirty emails if all of them have them). Then we have: * Family Resemblance * Real-Life Emails * Sample of Style Too * Sample of Style Too bloopers * Puppets on the Road * Video for It's Like It Was Meant to Be (the lyrics are the same as on the CD) * Video for Grumblecakes (this one has extra lyrics) * Karaoke for Because It's Midnite (with Stinkoman in the alternate audio) * Karaoke for Rock Opera (with Matt Chapman as every character and himself in the alternate audio) * The FBI warning, the opening screen, and the "too long" animation (the Bonus Stuff animations are the same as on the first three discs). That's all I've seen. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:11, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) :Okay, which 8&ndash;10 commentaries do you prefer doing? Then I'll choose. I'll also do the bloopers and "Puppets on the Road". &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] :How about the first set of ten, along with Family Resemblance and Stinkoman's Rock Opera. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:19, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) :I'll take a few commentaries. Perhaps the middle 10, but I don't think I will be able to do them all this weekend. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:27, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) ::I'll start at the end. If I get all of <s>that</s> those 10 done, I'll email you, Joe, and see how you're doyng. I mean doing. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:35, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) :::<nowiki>*</nowiki>shudder* &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:36, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) ::::Corrected my message above. Anybody want "Sample of Style Too" or "Real-Life Emails". If not, I volunteer. You've got my email address if you need it (note the crazy hyphens and underscores): it-s_dot_com@hotmail.com &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] ::::: I kinda wanted to do RLE too, but it's okay if you want to do it. I was just trying to leave some spots open. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:43, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) :::::: Yeah, me too... It was hard not to say in my first message above, "Well, I'll take care of all this." How 'bout you email me on, oh, Friday, and we'll see how each of us is doing. (I resisted it that time.) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:48, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) ::::::: Sure, I'll try to remember. Wow, almost noon here and the Wiki's still up... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:52, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) : I actually forgot one hidden item: Outtakes from Strong Bad vs. Little Girl (although, rather than "outtakes," it seems to be a totally new cartoon. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:29, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) ::It's here! Yay! &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:09, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC) == Your comments == They're not your comments. They belong to the wiki. That's why we don't sign them. If you need to see the scene to believe it, look [http://www.noiseoff.org/media/man.loves.a.woman.rm here]. Careful, they talk about S-E-X in the clip. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:46, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC) : I don't want a movie clip. I'm not talking about a movie clip. And you distorted the comment (admittedly, I provided the wrong link that time) to something it wasn't meant to be. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:48, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC) : Your own rules: ''You may revise or merge arguments, as long as the substance of the argument(s) does not change.'' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:50, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC) ::Right. The substance was your link, which I did not change. If you mean that I removed it at first, that was due to an edit conflict, and I was in the process of putting it back when I was edit conflict'd again. ::: No, I mean that you changed the wording of the words around the link to make it imply as though the siren was YOUR argument rather than mine. (Of course, it would have helped if I had the right link that time.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:56, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC) ::The fact that it's a movie clip is inconsequential. The car alarm is typical. The alarms match. I've heard it a million times myself. Like I said, if I have to, I'll go to an electronics store and record it myself, but that's unnecessary, because I would only come up with the same thing I already have. The bottom line is, it's a valid real-world reference. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:53, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC) ::: But I have a movie clip of a real-world siren, that clearly matches two of the sounds Homestar makes ''and'' comes close to matching another. And I'm searching through more sound clips to find the fourth. And that makes more sense in context. Shouldn't that trump something that does not make sense in context, and for which the only proof you have is a movie clip? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:54, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC) :::: ''Listen to it.'' It speaks for itself. If you can't hear that they're nearly identical, then I'm not going to keep arguing with you. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC) :::: And it makes perfect sense for Mike and Matt to stick in a car alarm reference when an alarm sound is called for. That's the joke. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:59, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC) ::::: Sigh. We're getting nowhere this way. Yes, I admit that your link (which is NOT a real car alarm, no matter how you slice it) sounds similar. Can you admit that my police siren sounds similar? Look, I live near the highway, I hear moving cars that make noises similar to Homestar's sounds (multiple sounds per car sometimes) all the time. I really doubt so many people are leaving their car alarm running while they drive. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:02, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC) :::::: How is it not a real car alarm? Because it was featured in a movie? That's just the first place I found it, but it matches exactly what I was expecting to find when I was searching for it. There aren't a whole lot of sites out there that have sound clips of car alarms. The point is, I've heard this alarm for years. My brother used to ''have'' this alarm. Why would the moviemakers go reinvent the wheel when they could use something from popular culture that a lot of people would already identify with? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:10, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC) ::::::: And I'm supposed to take this on your word, while you totally ignore my word that I live near the highway and hear emergency vehicle sirens all the time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:12, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC) == I know this isn't a question, but... == Ok, I know this isn't a question, but I just wanted to say thanx for helping me with some of my questions that I asked on my talk page! Thanx! --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 05:40, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC) == Edit conflict == Oops. That's twice in just a few minutes. Sorry. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:09, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC) :Actually, I never DID hit an edit conflict with you on my side. But somehow, both of our "Fabrosi" comments were added to the talk page near-simultaneously (I suspect you hit the "+" tab while I hit "edit".) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:11, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC) ::Yeah, and then I accidentally recreated an article... by putting a <code><nowiki>{{tobedeleted}}</nowiki></code> tag on it. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] ::: And somewhat ironically, I had just noticed this and was commenting on it, and hit an edit conflict. :p Oh well, I'm not offended by edit conflicts unless I get them multiple times in a row on the same page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:14, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC) :::: Oh, man, isn't it annoying when you're trying to reply to a conversation on a popular page and every time you hit Save Page you get a conflict and then you go about figuring out what's changed and where you need to manually merge the pages and so you hit it again and &mdash; oh no! It's another conflict! And somebody's made the point you were working on (only they didn't say it quite as well) so you try to re-merge ''again'' with your additional insights but you get conflicted a third time until it all starts to go around and around and around until you want to put your fist through the screen.... so you finally just hit Select All in the "Your Text" section and paste it over the page and just say "Forget all of this! I'm going to edit this page if it kills me!" and ''maybe'' if you feel like it, you'll do a ''reverse'' manual merge? *out of breath* ...Whew... does that ever happen to you? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:21, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC) ::::: You wouldn't be speaking from experience, would you? ;) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:23, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC) :::::: I can't remember the exact page or topic, but the very notion gives me the jibblies. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] Whoa, I guess that happens to you, too. ;) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:11, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC) :Does indeed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:12, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC) ==This Article Has Been Deleted== When the evolution page was deleted, it was still in the Ctaegories: Evolution menu. So I decided to add a message that said "This message has been deleted." But now that it's gone for good, I'm not doing it anymore. Also, I regret making that page. I thought it should of been deleted. : The only problem was that your cache for the Evolution menu needed updating. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:26, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC) ==Blocked== Jay, Don't you think that giving an infinite ban to a first time spammer was a little bit harsh? I mean, I hate spam too, but an infinite ban? I would rather see that infinite ban go to that 9/11 email maker, but that is just me. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} :I wasn't the one who blocked the 9/11 emailer. That said, I have a tendency to give indefinite (or at least very long) bans to spammers because your average everyday internet user doesn't spam&mdash;most spammers are fake accounts set up specifically to spam. At least that is my experience. If Tom or JoeyDay disagrees with this policy of mine (and they've never spoken up before) then they can let me know. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:21, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC) == The (Football) Field == I may have been too hasty. More in a sec... (research in progress) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] : It's kind of ambiguous either way, actually. I can definitely see where you're coming from. I'm iffy about whether the change is necessary, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:51, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC) :: In [[mascot]], it's clearly the same field as [[A Folky Tale]]. But that's definitely not a football field... at least not an ''American'' football field, which is what the name suggests to me. It's definitely an athletic field... is there some reason that we call it a ''football'' field? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:53, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC) ::: Good question, especially since it's not football (of ''any'' real-world sort) that they play on it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:58, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC) ::::I noticed something else... although it's from [[different town]], so I don't know if it counts as canon, but the camera pans from Bubs' Concession Stand in the field over to Coach Z in the athletic field. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] :::::I reverted my edits and started a discussion at [[Talk:The Football Field]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:07, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC) == IDs == Okay. If you want to move it go right ahead.

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