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| - | I think we should move this page to [[Homestar Runner Wiki]] (click the link to see what it could look like). That way, it will show the actual title of the wiki instead of boring ol' "Main Page" (which of course would be left as a redirect). The [[MW:|MediaWiki]] front page is an excellent example of how it could be. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:24, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :I really like the idea. It shows exactly who we are upon entering. If I was in charge, I'd've done it from th' start. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
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| - | ::I also support the idea, maybe we should make Main Page a dis. page, though, for [[Main Pages]] and Homestar Runner Wiki. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:30, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :Support. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 01:33, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::Rogue Leader: Main Page and Talk:Main Page would have to redirect to the respective Homestar Runner Wiki pages, due to the amount of links to them, both internal and external. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :Complete Support: The Main Page talks about '''The Homestar Runner Wiki''' not '''Main Page''' {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 01:44, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::It's dot com: That can be accomplished simply by changing the text of [[MediaWiki:Mainpage]] from "Main Page" to "Homestar Runner Wiki". {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 01:56, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::Heh. Yes, I know. :) I wanted people to be able to see a preview without [[HRWiki:Standards#Be_bold.2C_but_know_when_not_to_be|being too drastic]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :I like your idea, Dot com. I'm surprised nobody ever thought of this before. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 02:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :I support leaving it [[Main Page]]. <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.google.com/search?&q=%22Main+Page%22+mediawiki Most to all MediaWiki wikis]</span> (257,000,000 at this moment) leave the title as the default. This page is the sole exception to the "articles are in the main namespace" rule, and giving it a different title would make it seem as if this was an article about the Homestar Runner Wiki (remember, we already have an article for that at [[HRWiki:A History]]). This is the main page of the wiki, it's our cover page and our table of contents. It's not the Homestar Runner Wiki. The entire wiki is the Homestar Runner Wiki. (I also never liked it when our main page was called [[old:HomestarRunnerWiki|HomestarRunnerWiki]] way back when.) -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::Most to all wikis use Main Page because they either don't know they can change it or don't have the access. I myself didn't know until I saw MediaWiki. If we're going to have one exception in the main namespace, shouldn't it be such that the title of the wiki can be on the front page? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:23, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::I agree with Tom. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:38, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :Well, isn't there some sort of weird developer stuff (I know, I'm vague) that you could do to change the description at the top from "Article" to "Main Page"? I think that would solve the whole problem. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 02:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::I agree with seriously. Although I like Its dot comes Idea.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 03:25, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::Following with what Tom said, I completely disagree that Main Page should be changed to Homestar Runner Wiki. The front page is ''not'' the whole wiki, it's just the main page. It has links to the other pages that ''make up'' the Homestar Runner Wiki. The pratical use of a "Homestar Runner Wiki" page would be to talk about HRWiki, which would go under the HRWiki: namespace, therefore calling itself [[HRWiki:About]], which we already have. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:27, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::Although it would be rater inconvenient. It may just be me, but that seems like to long of a title for the Main Page.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 03:31, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::Lapper: I think you're splitting hairs here. The reason for the change isn't so that we have an article about the wiki itself, it's so that the words "[[Homestar Runner Wiki]]" will appear, as a title like in that link, at the top of the page all professional-like. I suppose one could make a case that a page called "Homestar Runner Wiki" is just fine for a table of contents of the wiki, and certainly "Talk:Homestar Runner Wiki" would be a good change, since the page is devoted to general discussion about wiki matters and isn't really used much to talk about the contents or format of the front page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:43, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::That's not what I was saying; I was saying that that would be the pratical use for such a title. I prefer the term "Main Page", although "Talk:Main Page" is somewhat misleading, as most of the time it isn't for discussion of the Main Page. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:46, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::It looks much better as Main Page. That might confuse some users.(Not too sure about that, but maybe.) Plus it already says Homestar Runner Wiki on it.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 03:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :I'm happy with leaving it as Main Page. Sort of a "If it ain't broke..." type mentality, but at the same time I think it looks better and is more common and descriptive as it is. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 07:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :I think we should make it the Homestar Runner Wiki way. It looks better and makes more sense. {{User:Dagger/sig}} 17:43, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :'''Support'''. I can see the arguments for both sides. The strongest argument against, I think, is that the main page is not the whole Homestar Runner Wiki, but just the entry portal. That being said, I can't see that confusing anyone or causing problems. "Homestar Runner Wiki" would look a little nicer, and it would make the purpose of this talk page more clear (it took me a long time to realize that discussions about the wiki in general were occurring here). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:59, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :I don't care too much, but I would prefer that it stay as the Main Page, for all the reasons above, and most people will already see from the logo that this is the HRWiki, and the Main Page title will complement it by saying that it's the main page. Plus, I don't want to stare at a note that I was redirected when I enter the site. '''Another Option:''' we could do what [[Wikipedia:Main Page|Wikipedia]] does, and cut out the title completely. Something inside me tells me that WP editors got into the same argument we are, and found this to be the best option to satisfy both sides. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:26, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :There would be a redirect message? If so, I agree; that would be ugly. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:57, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::No, there would be no redirect message, assuming you don't type all the way out to "/Main Page" each time you load the site. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:58, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :It would just look weird. Plus I like the word: Main Page as the title.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 19:31, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :Something to point out is the fact that Wikipedia ''can't'' do this, because they already have an article about [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia|the encyclopedia itself]] in the same place where the title article would go. Most other wikis don't have this problem. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:17, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :I'm kinda in between... on one hand, it really is the Main Page and that's a descriptive title ('Homestar Runner Wiki - Homestar Runner Wiki' would look weird but maybe that can be fixed). On the other hand, 'Homestar Runner Wiki' looks a ton nicer and more welcoming. I'll say I '''support'''. It wouldn't look like an article about the Homestar Runner Wiki any more than 'Main Page' looks like an article about the Main Page on H*R. {{User:Ed smildE/signature}}
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| - | :To support, I would have to see a benefit to the change, one that is a noticeable improvement over how it is now. If it is changed as proposed, we shall still have a name that does not adequately address the page. THe only problem I've seen noted about the current title is that it is "boring" - but being an encyclopedia, this wiki should not be trying to be "exciting", rather it should be noting what is exciting about Homestar Runner. Since I see no real benefit from such a change, I must '''decline'''.
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| - | :However, I counterpropose: '''change name''' to "Homestar Runner Wiki - Main Page". This allows the page to be identified as exactly what it is, but also serve as a suitable cover for the encyclopedia. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:20, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :I <b>support</b> moving it to Homestar Runner Wiki.[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
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| - | ::In response to [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]], although this is indeed a "compromise", I believe that that title is rather long, not only for a URL, but for the H1 title itself. Perhaps it is an accurate description, but it is slightly wordy. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 01:25, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :Why not move it into the HRWiki: namespace? There's no real reason why we couldn't... If the appropriate MediaWiki pages are changed, there's nothing stopping the main page from being [[HRWiki:Main Page]], or [[HRWiki:Homestar Runner Wiki]] or something like that... and it would answer the question about it ''being'' a Main Page, rather than being ''about'' a Main Page. And for those that are wondering: http://www.hrwiki.org/ would correctly load the right page, no "Redirected" message. [[Main Page]] would have to be kept as a redirect though, for people that have http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page bookmarked, or as an external link on their page. After enough time, it could concievably become a redirect to [[Main Pages]] with a disambig notice to the new main page, but that's a discussion for then, not now. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:54, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::Phlip's idea of HRWiki:Main Page holds merit, and I would '''support''' it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:31, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::I would rather leave it unchanged than do that. To borrow a phrase, it is not a noticeable improvement over how it is now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:39, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::"HRWiki:Main Page" is a pretty good compromise, and it might even solve the talk page ambiguity problem. "HRWiki talk:Main Page" ''does'' sound like the main talk page for the Homestar Runner Wiki. If "Homestar Runner Wiki" doesn't fly, I could definitely support this one. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:41, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :I support either leaving it as [[Main Page]] or eliminating the page title a la Wikipedia. Moving the Main Page to [[Homestar Runner Wiki]] would be a bit too drastic in my opinion. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 23:46, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::I don't think that's what they're planning to do, I think they'll just change the title a different way so the URL is still Main Page but the title displays Homestar Runner Wiki. Which, by the way, I '''support''' --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 18:35, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::I must respectfully '''oppose''' any action that would move the Main page from where it is now. I too believe that the current setup is fine the way it is, and the main page content makes it quite obvious what it is that we are visiting (as if the big H*R wiki icon on the top left wasn't a big enough hint ;).) I originally thought changing the [[MediaWiki:Mainpage]] text as well, but the first line right under the title already says '''Homestar Runner Wiki'''. Finally, I am concerned (only in a very minor way) that even though it be a redirect, not all links, internal or external, would work in the same way (of course that's the paranoid in me talkin' :) ). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Oh I just realized that the second-to-last comment before mine, was dated june 24th, so I guess this might be a closed argument, but in case it isn't, I leave my comment. Ta ta! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:59, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
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| - | == Dates for updates ==
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| - | They seem to be a month too far. Homestarrunner.com was last updated in May, yet the front page claims it was updated yesterday, which was exactly one month later than it actually was.
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| - | :No... It says 5-22-06. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
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| - | ::(S/He means the Wiki's front page claims it was updated yesterday, Dorian. :) ) —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:32, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :You're right, the last big update was in May. But there are several smaller updates that have been happening that are not noted on the HR.com main pages. The dates of the [[Podstar Runner]] releases and [[Store]] updates are indeed accurate. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:27, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | == Commercials ==
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| - | I really think that we should have a category for commercials. How would I go about creating one? It's not really that hard I think, but I just don't now how. Can somebody response. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 20:07, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::You can add <nowiki>[[Category:Commercials]]</nowiki> to any page that needs it, and it's link will be red at the bottom where the rest of the categories are. You can click on the red link to type a description of the category, then continue adding <nowiki>[[Category:Commercials]]</nowiki> to any page that needs it. Hope that helps. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 20:34, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :Well if you believe that we need a category called that, then create it, and the community will decide if we need it.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 20:20, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ==kid speedy level 1==
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| - | Somebody add kid speedy level 1 on the updates. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:16, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::It's not a new version, but they changed the name. I'm not sure if that deserves it or not. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:18, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
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| - | == Cool tape t-shirt ==
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| - | Someone forgot to add cool tape tshirt
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| - | :Working on it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:17, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
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| - | == Page needs moving ==
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| - | See [[Talk:Witches' Brew#Written Brew|the talk]], which died before a consensus could be met. I don't know how else to point out that the page needs to be moved. [[User:86.136.134.76|86.136.134.76]] 21:30, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :Thank you for your notification and patience, 86.136.134.76. I've voted on the move. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:41, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
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| - | == New Users? ==
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| - | There have been no new users since July 11th. We used to have at least five a day. Is something going on? {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:59, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :The CAPTCHA image security system is currently out of order, making new user registration and anonymous editing temporarily impossible. The problem will be resolved soon enough. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:19, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::Why is it out of order?--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 04:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::Our prime suspect is the PHP upgrade the site had not so long ago. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:24, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
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| - | == 4.5 million ==
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| - | Hasn't anyone noticed we got over the 4.5 million Main Page View mark? THAT'S JUST... kinda awexome. At least I still have hair!--{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 19:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
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