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:::I spent about 5 minutes at it (at the moment, I've uploaded about 32KB and downloaded about 18MB) - So it seems like I'm getting the better deal, and it doesn't seem fair to other users - I'm sure that with more and more users connected, the rate at which we can download the file as a group will go up. I've seen the number of "Connected Peers" grow from four to eight (with a maximum of 14). So it looks encouraging. Just as the wiki is a collaborative effort - so is the idea of bit "torrenting" - Like [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]], I hope I can get past that 1%. My percentage of the 1.66GB AVI file seemed to rush quickly to 1% and then my transfer rate dropped to zero after that (and for quite some time I might add). --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 16:25, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)  
:::I spent about 5 minutes at it (at the moment, I've uploaded about 32KB and downloaded about 18MB) - So it seems like I'm getting the better deal, and it doesn't seem fair to other users - I'm sure that with more and more users connected, the rate at which we can download the file as a group will go up. I've seen the number of "Connected Peers" grow from four to eight (with a maximum of 14). So it looks encouraging. Just as the wiki is a collaborative effort - so is the idea of bit "torrenting" - Like [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]], I hope I can get past that 1%. My percentage of the 1.66GB AVI file seemed to rush quickly to 1% and then my transfer rate dropped to zero after that (and for quite some time I might add). --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 16:25, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)  
:::<i>Update</i>: Can any experienced torrent user (I'm using BitComet) explain why the following "one percent" situation is occuring? [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005.png view 1.0% screenshot here] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005_b.png 3 hours later - 1.1%] --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 20:51, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::<i>Update</i>: Can any experienced torrent user (I'm using BitComet) explain why the following "one percent" situation is occuring? [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005.png view 1.0% screenshot here] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005_b.png 3 hours later - 1.1%] --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 20:51, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
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::::That's because the swarm (the set of downloaders) has higher bandwidth than the uploader. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
Could you put the file up on the Gnutella network? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 20:19, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
Could you put the file up on the Gnutella network? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 20:19, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
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:That wouldn't be faster, unless you've limited your upload speed in BitComet. Come to think of it, a more likely explanation for the low speed (even a 28k modem should be faster) is that you have other torrents and/or p2p apps that hog your bandwidth. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
The torrent tracker seems to be down, is it just me? --[[User:tmbg37|tmbg37]] 20:55, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
The torrent tracker seems to be down, is it just me? --[[User:tmbg37|tmbg37]] 20:55, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
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:It's just you. Or your client, if it doesn't support the UDP tracking protocol. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

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Wowzers

I'll be personally attending this event tomorrow. And I'll be taking photos galore. If anyone is interested, the Kimmel Building is located at 60 Washington Square South. I'm very, very, very excited. Does anyone else plan to attend? Perhaps we could meet or something. -- Tom 18:10, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

You should bring a video camera with you, so we can possibly do a transcript. That would be sweet.
I wish I could go, but sadly, I cannot. It would rock to meet you, though. :) →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

Oh man! I wish I could go. I only live 40 minutes away from the city, but I have my theater group! (That's fun too.) I second on the idea about video taping it for the transcript (as long is it's okay.) I wonder if you'll get to meet TBC!!! →evin290 18:22, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

Additional info

I was able to find some additional info here:

Program Board Presents:
A DATE WITH HOMESTAR RUNNER
Tuesday, 3/1, doors at 5:45pm
Kimmel Center, Shorin Performance Studio, 8th Floor

A Date With Homestar Runner is a presentation by the Chapp
brothers & their video guy Ryan. There will be an awesome
puppet video shot around campus, your favorite cartoons and a
Q&A.

On Sale NOW at Ticket Central!
Tickets $3 with NYU ID, $4 with gov’t issued ID.
Must have NYU ID to obtain 'advance' tickets at Ticket Central.
Limit 2 'advance' tickets per NYU ID. 

So yeah, I'm stoked. -- Tom 20:46, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

I sure wish I could go. Bring a video camera! →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]
Who are the "Chapp brothers"?? — InterruptorJones[[]] 08:38, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

Update

Okay dudes, here's the scoop. After quite an adventure today, I managed to collect a whole bunch of video and some photos. I'll be doing my best to convert and upload the video so that you all can view and transcribe it. I learned quite a bit today, and I know you are all going to love the video. I'll keep you posted. -- Tom 23:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

Ooh... I can't wait. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]
How did you get the video? Did you watch the show?? →[[User:socetew|socetew]]
Yeah man, I managed to buy two ticket stubs from some guy. (He was somehow able to get back in with his NYU ID, and I was able to get in with the stubs.) I paid quite a pretty penny too. But I'd have to say it's the best forty bucks I ever spent! -- Tom 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
Ooooh!!! *steams* I want ticket stubs! I WANT TICKET STUBS!! →[[User:socetew|socetew]]

I'm all tingly! Good work Tom. - Dr Haggis - Talk 17:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)

As am I. Not just good work -awesome work. Awesome work, Tom. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]
Thanks guys, but just wait until you see this thing! It's totally cool. -- Tom 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
Can't wait for the video! Totally cool, eh Steve..er, Tom? So "totally cool that we don't even know it's totally cool" kind of cool? icon_mrgreen.gif --The Paper 09:23, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

Introduction: Doing a very crappy job

I'm sure that this summary will ultimately be replaced by a more accurate chronology of events and even a transcript. But for the time being, I went ahead and partially re-wrote the following:

Matt and Mike did a very crappy job introducing themselves and instead opted...

Feel free to change it back to how it is above. I just prefer not to use such slang (e.g., "crappy") - just trying to reduce the use of the colloquial in the article. --The Paper 11:44, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

Video and write-up

Okay, here we go:

-- Tom 21:14, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Video's not working. Tips? →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]
Yeah, All it's showing is a bunch of (seemingly) random symbols. What's a torrent anyways? →evin290 21:26, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)
That's a third strike from my try too. And I was so looking forward to the video too! I want to see the bouncing eggs! Oh well, I'm sure the man with the plan will find a way...

[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]] 21:33, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Oops. Okay, since neither the Wiki nor I have infinite bandwidth to spare, I've decided to user the BitTorrent protocol to distribute this file. Simply put, it works like this:
  1. I have a big AVI file on my computer.
  2. I create a special ".torrent" file for this AVI.
  3. I upload the torrent file to my server and link to it from my web page.
  4. You download this torrent file.
  5. Your torrent handling program takes this file and uses it to contact my torrent handling program.
  6. You start downloading the file from me. As you download, you also upload to others downloading.
Yeah, not the best explanation, but everything you need should be in that Wikipedia article. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. -- Tom 22:02, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Which Torrent handler do you recomend? - Dr Haggis - Talk 22:07, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

I use BitComet. -- Tom 22:21, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Thanks a lot for making the video. Now for the problems: I've noticed that the torrent uses the UDP tracker protocol extension, and thus is incompatible with most older (and some newer) clients. I also can't seem to connect to anyone except the seeder, and the download is excruciatingly slow, less than 1 kBps. At this rate, I estimate that it will take at least 19 days to complete. Am I the only downloader? - Meneth 22:35, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Well, I'm the only uploader. Any suggestions? -- Tom 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)
Okay, I've never been much for computer problems being explained with bits, bytes, bandwidth and whatnot, so I'm hoping someone can help a layman (correct spelling?) like me. I downloaded the BitComet program, but what do I do now? I also downloaded the video file, which took about 10 seconds and came in as a Real Player file. So what do I have to do to acquire the actual video, or download it, or view it or whatnot? Thanks alot for getting it though Tom. At least it's out there... Somewhere... EDIT: Never mind, I think I got it figured out. It'll take a while, possibly days, right?
Hmmmmm... It says the time remaining is 99:99:99. Any suggestions? (I think I got the same problem as Meneth)

[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]] 22:50, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

It sounds like your browser thought the ".avi.torrent" file was some other file. I'm guessing you renamed it "TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi.torrent" so BitComet should was able to open it. And yeah, it's going to take a long time. But the more people that download/upload, the faster it will go. -- Tom 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)


This is going to take a long, long time. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]
Yeah! After about 12 hours, I'm up to 1%!!! Only about a month and a half more, and it should be done! Oh well, better than nothing. At least I'll have something to look forwards to in the distant future... EDIT: 7:42 Pm another 12 hours later, and it's up to 1.1%. Maybe I should re-upgrade from 'Lite' Speed to 'Light' Speed...

[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]] 11:44, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

I spent about 5 minutes at it (at the moment, I've uploaded about 32KB and downloaded about 18MB) - So it seems like I'm getting the better deal, and it doesn't seem fair to other users - I'm sure that with more and more users connected, the rate at which we can download the file as a group will go up. I've seen the number of "Connected Peers" grow from four to eight (with a maximum of 14). So it looks encouraging. Just as the wiki is a collaborative effort - so is the idea of bit "torrenting" - Like Thunderbird, I hope I can get past that 1%. My percentage of the 1.66GB AVI file seemed to rush quickly to 1% and then my transfer rate dropped to zero after that (and for quite some time I might add). --The Paper 16:25, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
Update: Can any experienced torrent user (I'm using BitComet) explain why the following "one percent" situation is occuring? view 1.0% screenshot here 3 hours later - 1.1% --The Paper 20:51, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
That's because the swarm (the set of downloaders) has higher bandwidth than the uploader. - Meneth 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

Could you put the file up on the Gnutella network? - Dr Haggis - Talk 20:19, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

That wouldn't be faster, unless you've limited your upload speed in BitComet. Come to think of it, a more likely explanation for the low speed (even a 28k modem should be faster) is that you have other torrents and/or p2p apps that hog your bandwidth. - Meneth 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

The torrent tracker seems to be down, is it just me? --tmbg37 20:55, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

It's just you. Or your client, if it doesn't support the UDP tracking protocol. - Meneth 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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