Editing Talk:coloring

== "Okay" ==

If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time that [[The Cheat]] has actually said a word... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Or is it?  Are they just The Cheat noises? hmmm...{{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:34, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::They're still The Cheat noises. Distinctive, but The Cheat noises nonetheless. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I think this one's pretty clearly unambiguous. Just to mess with people. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::It definitely sounds like a very clear (for [[cheat talk]] anyway) "Okay!" to me. ''Much'' more intelligible than all the other times people have claimed to hear actual words in The Cheat noises, at any rate. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 04:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I have no question in my mind at all that this is "OK", not just The Cheat noises. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::Let's STUFF'it! {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 04:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Don't think we need to STUFF it... It's also not a fun fact. I believe that it's probably "OK", but it's still a guess. And if we allow this, then we'll have to revisit other toons as well. Where would we draw the line?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, I agree with Loafing. Should we remove it, or do we have to have a holy-crap-long debate about it in the STUFFlands? -[[User:J2|J2]]
:::::::::STUFFlands isn't what Loafing said. Loafing said Herelands. Anyway, The Cheat does say "okay", and it's probably just to play with the fans, as Dorian said (more or less). It's a sticky topic if we want to make an exception to The-Cheat-language transcription rule, and I'm going back and forth on this one. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I don't think this is comparable to previous situations at all. The Cheat here does something ''completely'' out of the ordinary. In general, his vowels are always variants on "eh" or "er", but here he makes a clear "O" sound. Likewise, for his second syllable, he uses a "k" consonant, which is not in the Cheat's normal phonology either. I think it's quite clear that TBC meant this one to be unambiguous. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I disagree. I think it's still just The Cheat in his own language. Just because we think he said that does not make it so. Also, notice the angry black squiggle. That's hardly a mood where The Cheat would offer a compliant "OK". I'd suggest the real translation could not appear on a family website. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I agree with Qermaq --[[User:70.28.112.174|70.28.112.174]] 10:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I actually hear a "t" sound, not a "k". I think it could <em>mean</em> "OK" just because "OK" would be an appropriate answer. I also don't believe that TBC worry too much whether we can understand The Cheat or not. <i>They</i> don't have to document it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::I agree.  The Cheat was MEANT to obviously sound like he said a real word for the first time.  I think it's worth mentioning that.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
This isn't the first time it's happened. He's said things clearly like this before. This isn't notable on the page as it's still pretty much The Cheat talk. It freaked me out though. {{User:Salty/sig}} 12:46, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Well... after listening to it a couple of times, it's definitely still in The Cheat. I can hear a distinct "k" sound in there, but everything else is standard squeakyness. So it's The Cheat talk, just more distinct than previously.

Do you think he's going to speak some sort of english in later toons? [[User:Cyberdemon|Cyberdemon]] 20:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Hey, wait, has The Cheat ever spoken with his mouth open? I think everything he says is some type of humming sound. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Nonsense! It's clearly CheatSpeak for "F*** You." --[[User:Tjsynkral|Tjsynkral]] 23:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== Interesting coincidence... or ''did'' I?? ==

This was removed from the article's fun facts, but I think it merits mention somewhere.

*The Chalkboard says "SOY IS MURDER" which is odd, given that she has been previously established as a [[Wikipedia:Vegetarian|vegetarian]]. This may be explained by Strong Bad's message in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]] where he tells Marzipan that tofu (a soy product) is really made of baby seals.

{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think the first part does not make sense. The second sentence might be OK to include. (The board says that soy is "ALSO" murder, btw.){{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::The first part neglects to mention that it says "TOO". As in, "Meat is murder, but soy is murder as well". The second part came to mind instantly for me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I've readded, editing the beginning part considerably. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I would prefer a more neutral statement, like "Strong Bad has previously said that tofu (a soy product) is really made of baby seals."{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I agree, as I don't think it really was a reference to Marzipan's Answering Machine.  I think it's just Marzipan going overboard with her "hippiness" (e.g., the chinchilla protest actually being a protest to get them out of her basement).--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 09:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::: Baby seals is one possibility.  The other is that "killing plants is no better than killing animals."  Remember, she sings to vegetables, she had a seance for her plant, and made her veggie burger into homestar junior.  Maybe the lesson was that plants are just as important.
::::::: and don't forget about when she decided not to cut the pumpkin off the vine. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I think this is the perfect time to use [[STUFF]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:04, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::It's related to her desire not to kill ''anything'', not to the answering machine message. Basically, it's just a joke. Her line "So that way, you always feel guilty" illustrates this. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
It's just a joke.  It's like the guy on the Simpsons who said "I'm a fourth level vegan; I don't eat anything that casts a shadow." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 22:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== Pressed Bunson? ==

Strong Bad raises a good point: What the crap <i>is</i> "pressed bunson"? The Google, it does nothing. Is this a reference to something (real-world or otherwise), or is this just another bit of standard-issue H*R nonsense? --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 07:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:If anything, it's just nonsense. No search on Google, Yahoo! or the Wikipedia turned up anything. Noted in the article. Possibly an inside joke just between the Bros. Chaps. [[User:WaveOBabies|WaveOBabies]] 11:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::My guess is they just want to mess with the wiki community and its over-obsessed fans.  --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 09:49, 23 Oct 2006 (PDT)
:::This is the second topic on this page where someone suggests that TBC just want to mess with the wiki. I can't believe that they would think about the wiki at all while they simply do what they like. In this case, they just made up a funny word. That's all.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== We just call it blue ==

I can't remember exactly which style of art it refers to, but one of the traditional art forms, like those of the Australian Aboriginees or Native American Indians, uses black where there should be blue due to lack of natural blue pigments. I'd put it on the page but it's probably better that someone finds the type of art first... [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ZanderSchubert ZanderSchubert] 07:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Most likely, black being called blue is a parody of racial things in Kindergarten and small school. --[[User:71.80.201.61|71.80.201.61]] 23:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Your comment is nonsensical. As a former teacher of kindergarteners, I can aver that they don't get the race differences for the large part. There are no racial things in Kindergarten. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Kindergarten? ==

Doesn't the fact that Missy P had a baby link in with the kindergarten thing? I don't know, it was just a thought.
:Babies don't go to kindergarten. {{User:Salty/sig}} 12:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Hey, -man ==

Santaman, Santaman again, Monsterman, Teacherman... is it time to give [[-man]] its own page under [[Running Gags]] yet? [[User:Octan|Octan]] 13:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

:If you're going to do that, establish a very strong initial edit; make the first edit as if you won't edit the article again. Most running gag pages will be put up for deletion if the article does not appear strong. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 14:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

::And don't forget [[Marzipan|Marzi]]man. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::And [[Stinkoman]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I don't think Stinkoman counts. That's clearly pronounced Stinko *Man*. The others are pronounced faster, resulting in it sounding like "min", which is the joke here. -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::And the ever-present [[Wrestleman]]. {{User:Laramie/Sig}} 13:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

:This just sounds like "This and that" (Or whatever it's called). This is simply part of how homestar talks funny personaly.

::"This, that, and the other thing" (TTATOT), and point. It's always limited to Homestar, so it should be included, if anywhere, on his page. -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::...Then wouldn't [[:Category:Homestar Runner running gags|these]], too? &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Hum. Point taken. I didn't even know that catagory existed. Sorry. I've been away for the last couple months, so I guess I've missed stuff. -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:00, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Don't worry, we still love you. <3 &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Animas or Animals? ==

The fun facts, as well as this [[:Image:Homestar reportcard.png|image]], say that one of the subjects on Homestar's reportcard is "talking to animas".  But when I watch it, it says "animals".  What's going on?  &mdash; [[User:Lappynapped|Lappynapped]] 15:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I also notice that the fun facts say "blossom" is misspelled as "blossum", but it looks ok to me.  Were these mistakes that have since been fixed?  &mdash; [[User:Lappynapped|Lappynapped]] 15:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:They both seem to have been fixed now.  I watched it last night, and it said "blossum" (not sure about the animal/animas thing though). {{User:Saturn/sig}} 16:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Well, clearly the [[:Image:Homestar reportcard.png|image on the page]] is the original release. Shortly after, they put the "l" back in "animal" [[:Image:Homestar reportcard 2.png|(from a file cached on my computer)]]. Then after that, they corrected "blossom" [[:Image:Homestar reportcard 3.png|(from the current file)]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:02, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I fixed the image.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Vulgar... ==

So, should we link to [[Swears]]? --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Not really a swear, but it is vulgar. Like "crap" is vulgar too. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:19, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Tight Pants? ==

Oh, you all knew this was coming, right? Well, just to be the first to throw it out there, do you think that the purple crayon is a reference to Homestar's Daisy Dukes from [[long pants]]? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|<span style="color: #800080;">''Brightstar Shiner''</span>]] 21:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

"ballade purple" is a reference to megaman, unless ballades are naturally purple.--[[User:150.243.207.238|150.243.207.238]] 21:38, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:"Oh, I definitely say it's just a result of tight pants."
:"Oooohh, tight paaants!"
:"Sorry about that.  What were we talking about?"
:"The tightest of pants."
:"Oh, right, right.  Tight pants."
:"Once again, I point the blame squarely at tight pants."
:That was the exchange that immediately crossed my mind.  Obviously it has a whole lot more to do with tight pants than creepy pants (which all the time get some... light globes).--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 22:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::'''Edit Conflict!''' Tight Pants...has a page, doesn't it? This is most certainly a reference, if I do say so myself. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|<span style="color: #800080;">''Brightstar Shiner''</span>]] 22:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Of Age Ladies & Canada ==

<i>{Change to next page, which shows Larry with two women. The text says "Larry Strong Bad always serenades the 'of-age' ladies after the show". Larry's face has been colored like Strong Bad's, and his hands have been drawn to look like red boxing gloves. The girls have the Canadian Flag colored onto their shirts.}</i>

I believe this is a reference to Canada's recent crusade against all forms of child pronography.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon#Legal_status_in_Canada

:I seriously doubt the Chaps know slash care about this whole thing with the Canada and the children and the misplaced R's... [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:35, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

::TBC won't be referncing Canadian stuff. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::How do ''you'' know? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::It's theoretically possible, of course, but I think it's pretty huge stretch. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== graduate ==

I went ahead and edited the article about the cheat and grills but I don't feel I worded it well...  Anyway I think it's ironic how many times we see Homestar wearing a grduate's cap only to find out that he's in preschool (possible reference?) [[User:Andrew911|Andrew911]] 00:45, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== Fun fact? ==

Should [[Wikipedia:Cumin|Cumin]] be added to fun facts? I'm not so sure it's noteworthy. (It was in Homestar's report card.) {{User:Steve/sig}} 01:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think cumin is already a pretty well-known spice. Uh, it is a spice, right? {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== nuturing your inner-Life Blossom ==

Does anyone else think that it is odd that the crayons don't write as to not let any life blossom shine above the rest and yet they get report cards with psuedo-grades on them?  Noteworthy? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:But we don't know that Strong Mad and Homsar's grades are any different from Homestar's. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::Of course, that too would be rather, umm, interesting, if the just gave everyone the same grades to keep everyone equal. I can just hear Marzipan saying, "Oh, everyone gets roots and grass! That way, no one Life Blossom shines more than any other. Plus, the roots and grass are made of pressed bunson, so they double as a healthy snack!" {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== The messed-up nature of the school ==

Here's something that I think might belong in the remarks section.

This toon continues inconsistency that is present in the H*R cartoons about school.  In senior prom, Homestar and Marzipan are at their senior prom.  However, in this toon, Marzipan is a teacher while Homestar is a kindergarden student.

Should this be added? --[[User:Paczjj15|Paczjj15]] 16:08, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:And in [[high school]] Coach Z was a baby (the same as the rest) but in [[stand-up]] he was older than SB.  I don't think TBC try too hard for absolute consistency, just whatever is funny. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::high school is Strong Bad's unphotographic memory.--[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]]

== Bean Beams ==

Okay, people can't agree if it's "laser beams" or "laser beans" that Strong Bad tells The Cheat to consider after "laser limes". Either one makes a certain amount of sense in the unusual context, and I can't really tell myself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:True, true. I was just going to say for the record that this is indeed a close one and I can't even tell which one it is myself. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I think maybe under "Real-World References" we should mention how Homestar's pronunciation of "crayons" as "crowns" is a parody of the tendancy of people in some regions (for example, many of the suburbs of Chicago) to pronounce "crayons" as "crans." Or would this be better placed on a page about Homestar's vocal mannerisms? As a mispronunciation, it's almost Coach Z-esque; kind of makes me wonder how he pronounces it...