Editing HRWiki:Old STUFF

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Shortcut:<br />[[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. 

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).  If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[secret recipes]]===

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====

Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava. 

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Strong Bad's Poopaw====

The reference to Strong Bad's poopaw is one of the first four times, after "Homestarloween Party", "The Facts", and "Pizzaz", that Strong Bad is mentioned as having any other relatives besides Strong Sad.  The number of times that Strong Bad is mentioned as having any relatives at all, has got to be at least twenty.

*'''Decline''' This is addressed at the bottom of the page in another vote.  We don't need any more of these "this is the first time that *so-and-so* does/says/reveals *thus-and-such*.  Besides the line "one of the first four times" already makes this non-unique as a "fun fact" and therefore not fun. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:07, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' "Homestar does not have a stupid uncle Egg". C'mon folks, the brothers Chap are making fun of people that make fun facts like this. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[crazy cartoon]]===

====Eh! Steve====

Eh! Steve returns in e-mail 84, [[kids' book ]].

*'''Decline.''' Not fun, and it definitely doesn't belong in "trivia." It's like saying that as a fun fact for homsar (the email) that homsar returns in interview. That's not fun. Heck no at all. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:58, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - Good example of how NOT to do forward referencing. If it was a reference that was expanded upon later to create another thing entirely (Homestar calling Strong Bad "Stinkoman" in [[island]] spawning Stinkoman 20X6), that would be acceptable. But to mention that a character showed up in another cartoon like this doesn't really work; THIS is redundant. I might as well go to Marshmellow's Last Stand and say "Strong Bad returns in A Jumping Jack Contest and eventually gets his own e-mail segment", if this were to go through. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:24, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:52, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]] 22:10, 15 Feb 2005 (CST)
*'''Revise, Accept.''' You should also mention that he shows up in the Decemberween Episode of Sweet Cuppin' Cakes.  Or you could make a second fun fact about that.
**Real funny. We need to prune joke votes like this... at least I can sleep easy knowing it doesn't count since it's not signed. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:12, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===

On Bubs' Concession Stand, the lights look and behave like the the lights from the [[Astro Lite]] Game.
*'''Decline.''' This is stated clearly in the easter eggs section. --[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:54, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)

=== [[no loafing]] ===

==== Car? Not no more. ====
Strong Bad says "his cool, cool car" in the beginning, but later says he has no car in the e-mail car.

*'''Decline.''' Just a song. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' There really ought to be a moratorium on these kinds of Fun Facts.  Some of these are really getting ridiculous. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:26, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I say leave cross references out completely unless its an actual running gag. This "Strong Bad once said or did or was seen doing blah blah blah in another e-mail" crap is obnoxious. Its just eager kids trying to be heard. Bleh. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:17, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:55, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' It's just too bad we don't know what happened to SB's car between "No Loafing" and "Car"... maybe they will make a toon about it someday.  It's also worth noting that SB had a car in "Dangeresque 3", so maybe he was between cars in the "Car" email.  He must have had a car before that email, because he dressed up as CARmen twice for halloween.
**Please sign your vote for it to count. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:09, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*** Do you WANT that vote to count?! Even if you agreed with the fact (which I see that you don't), would you really want someone that incoherent controlling what goes on the Wiki?! I'm neutral toward the fact but I'm half-tempted to turn my vote to decline out of protest for the joke votes! (Don't count that as a vote; I'm kidding.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:51, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===

==== Coincedincem ====

According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the  can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[other days]] ===

==== Tappity Tappity ====

When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.'''  Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[radio]] ===

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference?  My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' [http://www.audioactivism.org/archives/2004_12.html This] is the only reference I can find, but it's dated after the email so likely to be borrowing the H*R phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:17, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I don't know if a reference is neccesarily needed here. It's common knowledge to anyone who's ever used a microphone that it has to be positioned in the right spot to avoid hissing of '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds, as well as popping of '''T''' sounds. --[[User:El Zilcho|El Zilcho]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:41, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' They used this phrase for a reason and this fact sounds plausable enough. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Find reference, then Accept.''' It sounds plausible, sure, but if it's so very common and well-known it shouldn't be that much trouble to find an article, somewhere, which makes reference to it. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:28, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)

====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====

The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o)  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt!  --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
** "Lighten up"? We don't need every fact repeated over and over... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** What do you mean, "lighten up"? If it's already up then there's no reason to add it a second time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Why should he "lighten up"? Don't you think it's annoying when the same information is provided over and over on the same page? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Okay, sorry, I couldn't resist. '''DECLINE'''
*sorry i thought this was the next fun fact up. my bad. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K".  [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge.  However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
==== Politics ====
Marzipan's mention that one of the Pom girls was a Republican (and the Republican flag subsequently appearing) is the only reference to real-life politics or political parties on the site. 
*'''Decline.''' What about Strong Sad as [[Wikipedia:Mikhail Gorbachev|Gorbachev]] in the same toon? Or Martin [[Van Buren]]? Or "[[Wikipedia:Herbert Clark Hoover|herbert hoover]]?" in [[Kick the Can]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:07, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Well, how about ''modern'' politics? I'm actually '''Neutral''' toward this fact, though. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:09, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
***Gorbachev was in power less than twenty years ago. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
* '''Second''' [[User:Trogga|Trogga]]'s fact. Although there is also Abraham Lincoln's profile in [[Everybody to the Limit]] and [[Fluffy Puff Commercial]], as if it matters. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]]  16:57, 3 Feb 2005 (CST)
* '''Decline''' Unimportant, not interesting, and not even true to boot. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:01, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)

===[[origins]]===

====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

*'''Decilne.''' I was the one who STUFF'D this, and it's too much of a stretch. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:59, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but weakly''' The Beverly Cleary I'm iffy about. At least keep the Lem S. reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:34, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, wholeheartedly''' As another child of the 80s, I can safely say that the Brothers Chaps are making a reference to Beverly Cleary.  Her coming-of-age books were all the rage from fourth grade to eighth grade, and had titles similar to "Ew, Claire, Why?!" Absolutely accept this one. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 20:43, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' This sounds reasonable enough to me, really. With the title sounding similar, along with the name and all. [[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]] 21:16, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I'd keep it but lose the Lem S. reference, it's too obvious. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]] 8:13, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The title is similiar to something that Beverly would write, but the book in the easter egg looks nothing like the art from one of her books. Also, the Lem S. reference is fairly obvious. Get rid of it.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline!''' Are you serious? There's no way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*'''Accept''' This is what I first thought. [[User:KevDude|KevDude]]
*'''Accept''' I think it's a pretty strong refernce. It does look like one of her books, complete with "Some Award". It's certainly what I thought of at first. --[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 15:30, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' but suggest changing 'is a reference' to 'may be a reference', as I think the conclusion is reasonable enough to mention, but by no means conclusive. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 12:48, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I saw it as a reference to Beverly Cleary too.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 15:17, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[ghosts]]===
====PETRA====
The rock and role band "PETRA" relesed a CD in 1986 called "Captured In Time And Space." 
this may have a resenblents to the area strong sad is in.

*'''Weak Decline.''' Not really that similar. I would've gone neutral but you made an entire heading for it and you spelled "resemblence" wrong. Completely wrong. Before adding your stuff, be sure to look at the standards page :-) &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:40, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You used bad grammar and spelling, too. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 16:53, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:08, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' "Time and space" is a common phrase. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Maxstar|Maxstar]]

===[[funny]]===

====Awesome Sauce====
Is "Awesome Sauce" a reference to "[[Awexome Cross]]"?
*'''Decline.''' I see no connection whatsoever. &rarr;[[user:evin290|evin290]]15:53, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Neither do I, so '''second'''.  [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:08, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:18, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]]
*'''Decline.''' &rarr;[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*At first, that's what i thought they said. '''Accept''', even tough it's not going to do anyhting.
**Especially if you don't sign your vote. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.
*'''Weak accept.''' This is pretty obvious, but I'll let it slide... &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', because it's a little ''too'' obvious.  [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:08, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I'm British, I didn't know. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:37, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' -- Never heard of Clorox, but I think it isn't a reference whatever Clorox is. [[User:Rainer]]
**'''Comment''' Clorox is a company that makes cleaning products. (It's a US company.) So basically, this is a good fact for anyone living anywhere else but the US, but for Americans it's way too obvious to be a fact. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 04:58, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''accept.''' Good fact... &rarr;[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed.  Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Rewrite and move.'''  Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall.  Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)

===[[stunt double]]===

====Lemmer====

"The Lemmer" in the above article is a reference to [[Lem Sportsinterviews]]

*'''Decline. '''Not fun, not a fact. It's probably not even a reference to Lem. It could be a reference to Lemke - the real homestar runner :-) &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:19, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' According to the DVD commentary, this IS a reference to Lemke What's-His-Last-Name. I hate sports, but it's true. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 19:24, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!!!''' And Lemke isn't his last name, he's called Mark Lemke -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 16:01, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I don't have the DVD, but if commentary says it's a reference to [[LEMKE]], make say so. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:29, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===

==== The Hot-b-sey Twins ====
It appears Strong Bad has confused the Bobsey Twins with the Sweet Valley Twins. The Bobsey Twins were boy-girl twins who solved mysteries Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys style. The Sweet Valley Twins were identical twin girls whose "adventures" read like a typical teen dramedy. The latter would be more likely considered "hot", especially given the respective cover art of each series.

* '''Revise.''' A little too wordy. Cut off everything after "whose adventures" and merge the last two sentences to read: "The Bobsey Twins were mystery solving boy-girl twins whereas the Sweet Valley Twins were typical teenaged identical twin girls. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Revise.''' The thought had crossed my mind, as well, though I'm hesitant on putting mere speculation of what we ''think'' he meant in the article.  It should be noted, though, that the Bobsey Twins aren't that hot. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
* Perhaps the Sweet Valley Twins info should just be left out if its in question what TBC were referring to. It is clear though that Strong Bad got his Twins mixed (whether TBC did it on purpose is up for debate) so I still say the meat of this fact is good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]


==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...

==== I've lost my napkin! ====
The King's line "I've lost uhmmm-my napkin!" is a reference to  [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]].

*'''Decline'''. I don't see the reference. The King of Town loses a crown, and a Poopsmith. Neither of these is remotely similar to a napkin. I wouldn't have STUFFed this fact if I did see the reference :) [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 19:31, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' A clear reference. [[User: Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
*'''Decline.''' A big, ''big'' stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] / [[comic]]===
====VOIP====
I'm pretty sure that the reason why TBC selected "VOIP" as the sound that the Visor Robot makes when zapping So-and-so's head, is because [[Wikipedia:Voice_over_IP|VoIP]] is an up-and-coming technology, that investors are throwing scads of money at, and is getting more press than it deserves from technology reporters.
*'''Decline.''' Supreme stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:48, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)
** How is it a stretch? It is an exact match with the acronym.  Unfortunately there don't seem to be many other "sound effects" in the Teen Girls Squad series. -- 70.19.78.90
*** Just because it's an exact match does not mean that the Bros. Chaps did it on purpose. And to say that there are few other "sound effects" in TGS is laughable. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' Check the toon and the transcript - the abbreviation is "VoIP" while the sound used is "VOiP".  If this was an intentional Voice over IP reference, they'd have used the lower-case "o" and the upper-case "I". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** I only count about 10 "sound effects" that are transcribed on the screen.  Half of them are actual English words (sometimes with the 'D appended).  The other half are the goblinspeak, JGHOWMP, AGGH-GRAGH, and SHOMP.  Did I miss any? -- 70.19.78.90
*'''Severe Decline''' Maybe they used VOIP as the sound because, you know, it sounds right. And when comic was made, I think Voice over IP wasn't at the current level of popularity it is today. (Realize, comic is from at least a couple years ago). In conclusion, I'm in awe at how this fact ever came about. Also, I'm amazed I'm actually voting on this page again, but you know. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 23:20, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - this is waaay out there. Voice-Over IPs has NOTHING to do with random laser-beam sound effects; it's entirely coincidental. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:27, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!!!''' Dag, yo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:09, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:36, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Writing a sound as a word is Otomotophoya. [[User: drivec|drivec]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
***The word is "Otomotopia". I'd really love to know where you got the "phoya" from. :-P --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:18, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Don't you both mean "[[Wikipedia:Onomatopoeia|Onomatopoeia]]"? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:02, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
*****Eh, I did a search and found the spelling I used. At least I had the right PRONUNCIATION. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:56, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
******"onomato" doesn't sound much like "otomoto", but you were mostly in the ball park, yes. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 20:31, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
*******FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! I...Er... I mean '''Second.''' - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===

====Quotation'd====
When the Intercom Robot announces the next band is Kissyboots, it says, "Next up is "Kissyboots ", without the second quotation mark.
*<s>'''Neutral for now''' I don't think that's true lemme go check up on that. I'm pretty sure you're wrong. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 11:56, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)</s>
*'''Decline''' I rewatched it and the second quotation is definitely in there. '''UNFACTUAL'D''' &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:02, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This isn't even good enough for STUFF. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

====Phantom Drummer?====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

*'''Decline.''' Presumably The Ugly One is playing it offstage. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**What? Did you not see when the Ugly One got Floor Tommed, Step Mommed, and Pom Pommed? It was pretty clear she was dead.[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 10:30, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***True, and as we know, no-one ever comes back from the dead in Teen Girl Squad. That'd be far too unrealistic. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept''', actually, since it's quite true; The Ugly One was very much DEAD at that point in the flick. So... who was playing drums? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:17, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Its a suitable glitch. On the other hand, who really expects the Brothers Chap to redo the song each time one of the girls died? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second'''  --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:35, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:52, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**<s>'''Second'd'd!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 17:01, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)</s>
**'''Second'd'd'd''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second'd'd'd'd''' I beat you all! -[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second'd'd'd'd'd''' No, I beat you. -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:34, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' -- All teen bands mime.
**'''What The??'''  riiiight... -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
*'''accept.''' This is pretty obvious, but I'll let it slide... &rarr;[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]

====Guitar -> Shark====
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)?  Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"?  Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass".  Am I missing some other joke here?
: Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It's not a reference to anything, it's just a regular TGS bizzarre occurrence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:47, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Also the fish the bass (guitar) turns into is a shark, not a bass (fish) '''Decline''' &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Though technically a shark isn't a fish, but a mammal.
***Psst... that's whales. Sharks are very much fish. (Not as though that makes this fact any more viable.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:41, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio. 

*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email
** Please sign your votes or they will not be counted. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]
*'''Decline''' for reasons stated by BegyLips. This isn't necessarily a reference to the radio e-mail, just showing the girls' musical tastes. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''accept''' What's He Face is always labelled with negative phrases, such as unpopular, pity friend, whatev, shop lifting, same clothes, Wants a new stepdad and Lice and More. So it makes sense for her radio taste to be "College Radio" because that is, an "utter misery" (according to Strong Bad).--82.44.103.117
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:42, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

====You Big Mouth!====
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.

*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**But on the [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] page, it clearly says that she bears a striking resemblance to the Man with a Huge Mouth. And their synonymity is currenrly being disputed on both [[Talk:Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] and [[Talk:The Man with the Huge Mouth]]. I vote we abstain from voting until a consensus is reached. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***Correction: it USED to say she bears a striking resemblance. Somebody decided to remove that text that I added. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:13, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Well, it seems pretty presumptuous to me. I'm going to change the page to NPOV until we agree over whether they're the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]] 09:49, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

====Math again====
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.

*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
***'''Second''' that.  [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' So-and-So is just a nerd. Not notable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:37, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:52, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Soulbait ====
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.

* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Decline''' for reasons stated above. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Makes sense to me--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:33, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== CGNU ====
The Girls probably go to CGNU, where Strong bad is the principal.

*'''Decline.''' It's been stated that they're in eighth grade (despite the "I'M FIVE YEARS OLDER AND IN COLLEGE!!!" from Cheerleader).  At most, they're at the  didn't-exist-until-I-started-typing-just-now Crazy Go Nuts Prep Academy, but it's much more likely that Strong Bad was just writing himself in to be cool. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:56, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]]
*'''Decline.''', as CGNU is meant to be a college of some sort (thus the "university").[[User:Donny vs Universe|# Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite, accept.''' I think this is clearly a reference to Strong Bad being the principal of CGNU.  Perhaps saying something about that without saying that they go there would be more appropriate. [[User:209.175.21.2|209.175.21.2]]
**'''Second''' It's more of a reference to Strong Bad being the ''prinicpal'' of CGNU. :) Seriously though, this is a legitimate reference - the misspelling of "principal" is intentional.  Perhaps a reference to the misspelling in the CGNU e-mail should go on the TGS8 page, while a mention of Strong Bad being "prinicpal" at both CGNU and the school attended by TGS should go on Strong Bad's bio page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:42, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[dreamail]]===

==== C. elegans ====

The name "Chester Elegante" abbreviated "C. Elegante" might be a reference to the organism [[Wikipedia:C._elegans|"C. elegans"]].

* '''Neutral (for now)''' - I removed this since it screams of a BIG stretch, but there is SOME connection... I dunno, what do you all think? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:04, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline.''' Only because he never ''actually'' signs the email "C. Elegante," he signs it as "Chester Elegante." There might be some similarity, but it is a huge stretch to say TBC actaully planned that. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:39, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' BIG stretch. If TBC planned that, Strong Bad would have signed his email as "C. Elegante" instead of "Chester Elegante". [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:43, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Ping ====

The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"

*'''Decline.''' how can you tell? -- [[Keab42]]
*I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL).  they ARE the same ping.  Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify.  It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect).  I win. If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html  Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me.  Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This fun fact is based on speculation alone. Maybe if there were other Pink Floyd references on the site...
**'''Whaaaa?''' Speculation?  Did you even read what I posted?  I listened to both of the sounds togethor MULTIPLE TIMES not just go "ZOMG IT IS T3H PING ZOMG PINK FLOYD"  But if noone else hears it, maybe I am going insane.
*n/m about this point...
**So... are you changing your vote to Decline? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' -- It's just a ping. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
*'''Accept''' You can absolutely tell that that is the ping from Echoes. It's the exact same pitch and time length. That can't be just a coincidence... --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:54, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''second''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Third''' -- It's definitely the same sound.  If you import the clip from Echos into flash and publish a swf file to get the compression effect.. it sounds EXACTLY the same.  [[User:Olene|olene]] 03:57, 23 Jan 2005
*'''Decline''' I thought all subs pinged. But when I heard this, it DOES remind of my dad's ol' DOS Wolfpack 8-bit 4-color sub hunting game. Subs in movies always ping.
**'''Comment''' All subs do ping, but this is the EXACT same ping as the one from Echoes. They to get the sound from somewhere, and if you listen to the song you'll be able to tell clearly that that's what it is. [[User:evin290|evin290]]
*Oh, please. There's no way to tell for sure. So...'''DELETED!''''
**I beg to disagree. If you actually listen to the song, there is a way to tell for sure. I've said this before but it's the exact same pitch and the same length of time. I bet you anything they ripped the ping noise from that song. If it sounded a little bit like it I would agree with you, but it's the exact same noise! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST) (PS - Sign your posts!)
***Okay, now that someone else notices it, I'm not so sure if I'm still declining it...edit: now that two people notice it, i'm definetely not. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' It is more likely that the sub ping is a generic sound effect and that TBC and Pink Floyd happened to grab the exact same wav file of a sub ping. This would be like saying that when Mario enters a hidden area in Super Mario 64, it's a reference to Quake because the sound effect is very similar, if not identical to, a teleporter sound from Quake. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:15, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)</s>
**But that example isn't like saying that the ping is the same because that isn't the same exact sound. The ping is. It's a very unlikely chance that both TBC and Pink Floyd invented the same exact ping on the same exact note with the same amount of dissonance! (sp?) In my opinion that's just impossible! &rarr; [[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**And if you actually READ my above my comments, you'd notice Pink Floyd didn't download the ping(the song was made in 1971 for the lvoe fo god)  the pianist of the group actually played the note through a leslie speaker cabinet, so it's not a coincidence.  I think it should be a rule you can't decline it unless you've heard the song. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 23:51, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**I'm retracting my vote; the pings do sound strikingly similar. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 03:50, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Since I've been noticing a gigantic argument surrounding this particular fun fact, I'm going to propose a way to solve this.'''
:Now then, it seems that most of the individuals who are declining the fact are not very familiar with the song "Echoes." Since I personally don't believe in voting on a fun fact unless I actually know the details of the fact being disputed, I'm going to do something if others agree to this.
:I have an mp3 of "Echoes" (legally obtained from my personal copy of Meddle) on my hard drive, along with an mp3-to-wav converter and wav editing software. What I will do, if it's requested, is to take out an excerpt from the song "Echoes" (say, the first minute) and post it somewhere where everyone can hear it and draw their own conclusions.
:This way, everyone will have heard the fact in question and will make the voting far more fair. Anyone who thinks I should do this, please respond. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 00:14, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Personally I was abstaining from voting since I'd not heard the song... the clip'd help infinitely, methinks. Do it, please. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 00:25, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Definetely do it.  I think a lot of people would realize that they are the same ping if it was easy to access.(but actually if you go here: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html it plays the said pinging sound as the website opens, so...) --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 00:59, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
***The reason I want to take this particular approach, however, is the fact that I think a lot of people won't believe it's a sample from the song unless I get a clip from the actual song up here. You know how Kamek up above just thought it could've been the "same wav file" that both TBC and Pink Floyd used (though I don't even think that sort of technology had even been thought up of yet in friggin' 1971). --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 07:54, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Good point.  Lets go with your idea...(goes off to headbang to The Nile Song) --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:06, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
****You can tell that my knowledge of Pink Floyd can fit between these parentheses: (). I was unaware the song was over 30 years old, thus my comment on wave files. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 03:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''I have an exerpt on my hard drive now, but nowhere to put it.''' Anyone have an idea where I can put this mp3 for now? Perhaps temporarily upload it to the Wiki, if that's alright by the mods? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 15:27, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Yousendit.com should be good(just send the link to yourself)
*[http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=27LFK8IK0YDAY0567BDQ6EVSG1 Echoes excerpt] - Done using the method suggested above, so I don't know how well it will work. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 11:56, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Severe decline. I listened to them at the same time and then alternating. One of them is a higher pitch than the other. But who cares? Why are people fighting so hard just for one fun fact? --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:I only did what I did because it really grates on my nerves when people vote out of ignorance. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 21:34, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''good' Thats good to know you actually listened to it before declining.  Keep in mind, the sound quality could effect it.  Someone should host an SWF of the echoes excerpt, so we can REALLY confirm this...
*'''Decline''' At first I thought they were the same sound, and they do sound pretty similar, but after a close comparison in Goldwave, it's pretty clear the Chaps are just using a generic ping that sounds similar to this note.  I've made an audio file for comparison purposes; the first sound is from Echoes, the second is from Dreamail, and the third is the ping from Echoes mixed into the Dreamail clip.  [[Media:dreammail-echoes.ogg]] --[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 10:51, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Because you have to hear the song and really pay attention to a certain part, I believe that even if it is from the song, it's not fun enough, and also I don't think it's worth putting up fun facts that require anything that need proof from anything other than something easily accessable.

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Paper Doll Style ====

This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.
**'''Second''' -- cut out the bit about Yello Dello and you've got a good bit of trivia. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's an interesting idea, but I don't know if it needs to be a fun fact. But then again, where else would it go? &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:42, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Does the paper doll style mimic an old cartoon show or something? It seems to me, what with the laugh track and the bizarre style, that the Brothers Chaps are paying homage to something specific. Anyway, if they are, it might be an interesting fact.

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]].  This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[homsar]] ===
==== Heavy Lourde ====
"Lourde" is French for "heavy."

*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:08, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry.  -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ===

==== Dr Zoidberg ====

The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.
*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline''' -- The Homestar Runner doesn't even know what a robot <i>is</i>, much less how to prounounce one (even though Stinkoman pronounced it for him). [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:22, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[2 years]] ===

==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke.  Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''.  Because it's true!  And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder.  I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke.  --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''.  Click on the link above - this is a verified fact.  [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)



=== [[huttah!]] ===

====Title====
The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy. 

*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:24, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline''' I don't know about you guys, but I noticed it the first time I watched. Fairly obvious if you ask me... --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:51, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
*'''Second anything that says Decline.''' Big fat duh. [[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:40, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I'll say it again. DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===

==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is  about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock.  Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like: 
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator! 
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Egg Nog Glass ====
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].

*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally.  This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste.  These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd.''' &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:45, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally.  This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste.  These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Dripping Sound ====
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon?  [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally.  This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste.  These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact.  --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept'''  Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable.  And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Alms for the poor ====

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation.  Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Wrong. '''Accept.''' It's true and should be referenced as such.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
**Please sign your vote, unsigned votes do not count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:36, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' While Homsar's saying is indeed a play on the old saying, it's well-known to most people and can be figured out easily. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:37, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And somebody slap whoever is posting the same "silly cartoon" reply for every STUFFed fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Charlie Brown ====

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons. 

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation.  Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation.  Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring?  This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley.  It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Beat It ====

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation.  Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest.  --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video."  Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard.  After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way.  --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Marzipan's Purse ====
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Screentime ====

The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!
**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' No matter how popular he is the website's called homestarrunner.com not thecheat.com.
**'''Complain!'''Nitpicky, ain't we? Who cares? '''ACCEPT!''' Just to shut you ip [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept'''  This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Homestar always confuses have and has ====
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"

* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````
*'''Decline.''' Similar phrase, massive stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Coach Z's Phone ====

Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement.  Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd.  Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes.  Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important?  Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]

==== Alms for the Pudgy ====

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"

*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== 1 on 1 ====

This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation.  In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park.  sorry bout that.  XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]

==== Electrical Tape? ====

Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.

*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape.  Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
**'''Second.''' What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
*'''Accept.''' If ever one loved his electrical tape, twas Pom Pom.

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which <i>Coach</i> Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing.  --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas.  The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]]  Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction:  I made a mistake.  The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]]  Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*<b> Decline </b> Janik

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here.  I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!?  --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[homestar hair]]===

==== Losing his touch ====

Strong Bad sure seems to be losing his touch lately.  This is the second email in a row, after "butt IQ", that is not funny.

*'''Very very very strong Decline.''' And don't need to say why. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 12:44, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
** I think this vote should be discounted because there is no reason provided.
*** Read the rules. You don't need to provide a reason except on a Revise/Rewrite vote. Anyway, it won't matter in this case since the fact has unanimous declines so far. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:41, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; That's opinion, not fact. In fact, this shouldn't even have been STUFF'd. This isn't "Select The Usable Fun Opinions". --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:31, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
** What? Not the STUFO page? Oh, then I guess there isn't any reason not to '''DECLINE''' then. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:08, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' - This page is SO getting out of hand.  People are REALLY reaching... especially when they're submitting bald-faced lies, er, bald-faced opinions as facts.  I know we're not supposed to say so, but this one should be '''DELTEATED''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''EXTREME Decline''' --[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 14:14, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' We have no documented record of anybody laughing at either of these emails, besides laughing at how not-funny they are.
** 9_9 Please stop making joke votes. This is not a valid Fun Fact at all (it's not objective in the least, and an information page MUST be objective). In fact, if I found this one on a page, I'd delete it without even thinking about STUFFing it. Not as though this one counts (not signed) but they're still stupid. (Can we make this a WikiTrollable offense?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:42, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===

====Sterrance====
Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

*'''Accept'''.  It makes sense.  The Sterrance page says he looks like a doodle from Disney's Toontown, and Mickey Mouse is also a Disney character.  And They do look like his feet ----68.236.51.28
*'''Decline.''' It doesn't seem that way to me... I'd definitely not say that they look "remarkably" similar.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== check out all my dimensions ====
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications."  This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."

*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Pfff. Doubtful. Weak '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad asking us to "check out" something again does not constitute a reference. --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]] 21:58, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.'''  Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**There would be no STUFF if not for that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about.  --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Babies havin' babies ====
Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/

* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Probably a coincidence, a pun on "brother pitted aginst brother". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' The phrase refers to teen girls having children - another sign (or symptom) of the "desolation" and "chaos". --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]]

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly.  I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', <u>'''''unless'''''</u> you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
*'''Delete'''.  It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>
**'''Comment.''' Actually, it's used to find solutions to quadratic equations, or zeros of quadratic functions or polynomials. --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]]
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school.  That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]
**You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]
*'''Decline.''' This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
*'''Moify and accept''' Saying that pi is an "infinite number" is a bit deceptive; just saying that the number is the first digits of pi should be good enough.

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''.  While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Maybe just 
 The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),
 which is an infinite number.
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious.  --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''.  A little too obvious.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon."  --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said.  Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''.  Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''.  I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part.  It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline'''.  I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.
*'''Comment.''' Old but inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''.  Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline''' That'd ruin the surprise if they did that.  --[[User:Cleve Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Comment.''' This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''.  I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!I'm tired of brackets!]]
*'''Comment.''' Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice.  A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''.  Incorrect.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software.  Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I ''would'' say that. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]] 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)
**'''Comment.''' I agree, but of course I ''would'' as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Keep the mention of Fred Cohen, cuz he is cool.

==== Gilligan's Island? ====
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence. --[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
*'''Decline.''' I very much doubt it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Strong Sad's blog ====
When Strong Sad walks up and ask Strong Bad about a virus, his pixilated face is probably a referance to Strong Sad's blog (A.K.A. Strong Sad's Lament) from the e-mail website. On each post it shows his mood, and they are the same one that Strong SAd has hovering, they are probably pixiated because it enlarged the image's from the blog.
*'''Decline''' part of it is already in transcript, rest of it is blaringly obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:58, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:13, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Computer Viruses ====
Computer viruses exist in the real world in addition to cartoons.  Norton Anti Virus says I have twelve viruses on my computer right now (a new personal record).
*'''Delete a thousand times over''' This is probably the dumbest thing I've seen in my entire life. Wow... You're a moron. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:19, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I didn't know that.
** You're just trolling, aren't you? '''DELETE IT!!''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:36, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*I thought I knew what ridiculous was until this day. '''DELETED!''' --Tom H. (Homesmash Brother)
*'''Delete in an hour''' --[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 14:16, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Everybody knows that. --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:12, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Price Style ====

Price Style is most likely mocking Wal-Mart, with it's 'low, low prices everyday'. 

*'''Decline.''' Many stores have slogans that say low, low prices everyday. Wal-Mart's slogan is actually "Always Low Prices. Always," so you really can't say based on that that Wal-Mart is being mocked. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

==== Reynold's Wrap ====
Reynold's Wrap is a common type of commodity you would find in a supermarket, or even a non-super market.

*'''Accept''' This is obviously true. -- [[User:olene|olene]] 06:12, NOV 5 1955 (XST) 
**'''Second and possibly Third''' You just can't "beat the DEET". -- [[User:olene|olene]] 03:99, JAN 31 2½05 (AST)
*'''Severe Decline''' Umm, so what?  There's no mention of Reynold's Wrap in the toon.  This should be removed. -- [[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:40, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Reynold appears in the toon when he fires the "Justice Rocket Backpack Rocket Rocket Reynold!"
**Like I said above, so what?  There is no mention of "Reynold's Wrap" in the toon, and this "fun fact" is neither a fact, nor is it fun. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:02, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
* Not only '''DECLINE''' but discount all of the "accept" votes, since they're clearly joke votes (what does any of this have to do with the 'toon in question???) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:13, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Let's Rock and Roll! ====

Reynold's slogan "Reynold's commandos, let's rock and roll" is a spoof on the Cheat Commandos' battle cry, "Cheat commandos, rock rock on!"

*'''Decline''' Let me be the first to say this is obvious and unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:04, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====
The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''  Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad."  -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails.  In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome."  Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****No comparison?  How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above.  People will probably catch this after watching it a few times.  Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript.  This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' The e-mail is actually from "Dan", and Strong Bad refers to him as "Jerome"

=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===

==== The Only Time? ====
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]?  Maybe it is, maybe not.  --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
**Probably not. [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] does all the voices in the Powered By the Cheat cartoons. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s>
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

====Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts ====
In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone. 

*'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]
*'''Accept''' The transcript mentions that Marzipan has no mouth, but not that this can be "clearly told".
*'''Decline''' Frankly, Mr. Anonymous, I fail to see the difference in this case. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:16, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As mentioned, it's in the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== hellboy ====
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:01, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's   possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== scoreboard ====
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Well, it says that the arena is dark, which implies it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.

==== ketchup ====
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]

*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''BALEET!''' TBC reuse images all the time! &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:58, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 09:59, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Pants ====
Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.
*'''Weak Accept''': While it's not entirely fun, it is a fact. But please, check to see if this is really the first time he wears pants. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
** It's not. Check out the Halloween episodes. However, it's already on the [[montage]] page with the "besides Halloween episode" qualifier. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:47, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===

==== Biscuit Dough Relations ====
Biscuit Dough Man is related to Strong Bad and therefore is also related to Strong Mad, Strong Bad, and The Cheat.  This is not the only Homestar Runner relationship; Marzipan is the King of Town's father.

*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:34, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Let's roll through this with you. Biscuit dough hands man is not related to anybody! He's an "artist's interpretation" of what Strong Bad would look like. Why is the Cheat in this list? He's not related to the Brothers Strong. Marzipan is a woman and she is young. How could she be the king of town's ''father?'' Overall, I'd have to say that this is not very smart. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:25, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Talk about getting your genders mixed up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 13:35, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 09:58, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Very very very strong decline''' 1. What does this add to the pizazz article? 2. What evidence do we have that SB and BDHM are related? 3. What do the other relationships even have to do with the original (useless) fact in question? 4. How is The Cheat related to the Brothers Strong? 5 and 6. The '''King of Town''' is no longer stated to be '''Marzipan's''' father. What genius added this? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:48, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Prepetually Accept''' It's obvious here that Marzipan has had several (possibly successful) sex-change operations as noted in the following emails: [[virus]] [[50 emails]] [[i love you]] [[sbemail_22]] [[flashback]].  Furthermore, it makes sense that Marzipan is the King of Town's father and not the other way around because if the King of Town had a child, he would have eaten it.  Case closed.
**What the heck are you talking about? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:13, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
**If you're trying to be funny, you're not doing a very good job.
:Why don't we just get rid of this one, it's pretty obvious it's going to fail... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:09, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Who's to say that BDHM and SB aren't R?
** Who's to say that they are? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:27, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' How about this edit:
  Biscuit Dough Hands Man may or may not be related to Strong Bad, Strong Mad, Strong Bad, and the Cheat.
  The King of Town is no longer stated to be Marzipan's father, but Marzipan may be the King of Town's father.
* Ha. Ha. And ha some more. '''STILL FREAKING DECLINE''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:20, 4 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''DECLINE.'''  This is such a waste of wiki-space...  And whoever is putting "prepetually accept," "accept" and "revise" needs to sign to even be considered...  I say we trick out our fists with a nice backwards "Deleted" and punch this fun fact in the face. &rarr;[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 06:19, 07 Feb 2005 (CST)
* This sounds like a cool and interesting fact. Uhh, no wait I lied, it's stupid as anything. '''DECLINED'''
*'''Decline.''' I almost feel like accepting the rewrite, it made me laugh so much. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man ====
This is sort of an add-on to a Fun Fact already mentioned on the page, but...

After Strong Bad interviews himself during this edition of the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum, the mention of next episode's interview with Biscuit Dough Hands Man holds a hidden joke, seeing that Biscuit Dough Hands Man is, in fact, Strong Bad (or at least, Bubs' artistic impression of him).  So once again, Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself."

*'''Very Weak Decline.''' Biscuit Dough Hands Man isn't Strong Bad, neccessarily. Considering Coach Z's recognition of him (although Zee's a little bit short in the sanity department,) he could actually be a real person. Or just a made-up one, which is why it's funny that strong bad's interviewing him... &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:38, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
'''SUPERDECLINE'''---DELEETED

*'''Accept.''' Unlike the insane "Biscuit Dough Relations" crap above, this one makes sense...and is true, or at least noteworthy.  Whoever put "Superdecline," please learn how to spell DELETED, and sign your comment! &rarr;[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 06:12, 07 Feb 2005 (CST)
*'''Accept.''' True, subtle and interesting. Exactly what makes a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:24, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
=== credit card ===

==== At Homestarrunner dot net ====

This email implies that Homestar Runner has an email address, which we have no reason to believe because he is always using Strong Bad's computer.

* '''Decline''' I do not like this fact, but I don't feel right simply deleting it. Your call, people? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:33, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' - Dingell
* '''Accept, maybe revise''' It IS Homestar's website after all...so of course there would be an email address for him.  Also, we haven't seen in Homestar's house as extensively as Strong Bad's.  So he may have a computer...  It just seems that he likes to fiddle with Strong Bad's computer anytime he sees it.  I actually think the more interesting fun fact here is that Homestar can SPELL!  &rarr;[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 06:22, 07 Feb 2005 (CST)
** But if that's true, then the fact doesn't need to be revised - it needs to be rewritten or thrown out! (Yes, there's a difference between revision and rewriting.) The fact implies that Homestar SHOULDN'T have an e-mail address, while you very clearly stated that he should. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:28, 7 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Decline''' Since we're dealing with "implications" and "reasons to believe", I don't find this to be in any way factual.  The first part alone would suffice, albeit with a decent rewrite, but the second part is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:21, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' He's not "always" using Strong Bad's computer; he's only used it once or twice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== car ===

==== "You ever see me in a car?  No!" ====

Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car?  No!"  Actually we HAVE seen him in the Gremlin in the Dangeresque 3 email.

==Games==

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''  I suppose that's interesting.  --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Trust ====
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him."  This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" SpongeBob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''
**'''Decline''' Ditto. &mdash; [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]
**'''Second.''' Duh and Double Duh &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:12, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I seem to remember voting on this before. Is this its second appearance? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I thought more of 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off' where Principal Ed Rooney says this of Ferris. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]</tt></small>''
**'''Second.''' Yeah. i remember that. " You shouldn't be Throwing anything with your back the way it is". erm....something like that

==== Parents ====
*When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
** '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
** '''Revise, Accept.'''  Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.