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{{Main Page Talk}}

== Auto Log Out? ==

I occasionally am logged out for no reason when I don't click the "log out" button. Do we have an automatic log out or something, or is there some glitch in the server? [[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]] 19:31, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe your cookies expired. Happens to me on occasion. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe. I didn't know that could happen. Which isn't that unusual. Thanks! {{User: DrPepper42/sig}} 21:14, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I find there's an inevitable period of time when I come onto the wiki and I am not automatically logged in. Happens. Log in again, be sure to to check the "always keep me logged in" and go. A few times a year ain't a problem. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm talking about moving from page to page on the wiki. I don't use "always stay logged in" because I've got a little brother who will probably get me banned. {{User:DrPepper42/sig}} 00:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::It might be that you're moving between <span class="plainlinks">[http://hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page hrwiki.org] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page www.hrwiki.org]</span>, which even though they are the same thing are treated differently by your computer. To avoid the problem, I log in on both. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::I'd consider that a glitch in the server. {{User:DrPepper42/sig}} 18:22, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Without going into too much horrible detail: {{pl|l=http://hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page hrwiki.org}} and {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page www.hrwiki.org}} are considered by your browser to be two different sites for technical reasons.  This is not a trivial thing to fix.  Similarly, the cookies do not translate from one site to the next for ''security'' reasons.  So, no glitch, just something you gotta keep your eye on. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:08, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Given that this is a pretty low security site (no personal info, etc.), you could just set the cookie with a domain of .hrwiki.org --[[User:Tabacco|Tabacco]] 15:04, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

== New inside ref. ==

Most of my other attempts at officializing inside references have been turned down, so I  figured I'd ask here this time.

'''Marzipan dating The Cheat'''. This seems to be an omvious recurring theme, even before [[Date Nite]], what with their secret hot dates.
:See [[Marzipan and The Cheat's Relationship]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:29, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

== Heroes Con ==
[[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] will be in/near Charlotte, NC this weekend at the [http://www.heroesonline.com/heroescon.html Heroes Convention], as confirmed [http://www.telltalegames.com/community/blogs/id-347 here]. They will be at booth 532, and the con goes from Friday to Sunday. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 16:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

== Back from the future? ==

The weekly stuff doesn't seem to be on the site yet... {{User:Einstein runner/sig}} 01:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:You're right! Woah! {{User:DrPepper42/sig}} 12:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::After about 2 or more days of it being on HRWiki, it's STILL not on the main site. =/ Who knows, maybe it'll come with the next update? [[Special:Contributions/66.168.19.135|66.168.19.135]] 12:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Hmm, it's on the main page for me... try clearing your cache. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:16, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I think he means on the [[HR:{{randommainpage}}.html|main pages]] of homestarrunner.com. I doubt that The Brothers Chaps know about this problem so we will never get to see those weeklies (I can't see it either). Hopefully the next time the quotes are updated this problem won't happen again. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 14:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Right, I assumed s/he meant the h*r.com main pages, but as early as last night, I was able to view the weeklies through [[Main Page 10]]. Interestingly, though, I can't get them on this (different from last night) computer even after doing a hard refresh.  Maybe I have to completely obliterate my cache... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::What operating system and browser are you useing? I'm using windows vista b/w IE 8.0. Maybe it's got something to do with that.
:::::::My cache is removed every time I close my browser (Firefox 3 btw), and I'm using Xubuntu 8.04. The games menu also has issues with flashplayer-nonfree for Linux =/ [[Special:Contributions/66.168.19.135|66.168.19.135]] 17:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Okay, this is a bit late, but I originally meant that the weekly stuff that was here wasn't on homestarrunner.com. I just wanted to know whether it was and why it was removed. {{User:Einstein runner/sig}} 23:09, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

== Background Image ==

Okay, some questions about the greyscale field background:<BR>
#Where is the actual file located?<BR>
#Is there any interest in replacing it with the most up-to-date field/sky that TBC have been using?
#*If so, is there any interest in manipulating it to be a "tiling" background so that it would be seamless for use on any resolution?
#*If not, can we resize the existing one so that it's at least 1280 pixels wide?  (1440 pixels wide would be my preference, actually)
Yes, most articles are large enough that the background is almost never seen, but for "young" talk pages it'd be nice for the background to get ''some'' pleasing visibility.  IMHO.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 07:46, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:It's at [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/headbg-kb.jpg www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/headbg-kb.jpg], 1250 pixels wide and 24kB large. My screen is 1680 pixels wide, and I don't think I noticed the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=571751 awkward tiling] until now. I don't think we should make the image wider. It will increase the file size, and who knows when the next user comes with an even wider screen. But yeah, a version that repeats seamlessly ''would'' look better and might even reduce the file size. Having said that, I don't think it's too important to change, either ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::Also, the image right now is 523 pixels in height.  I don't think many HRWiki'ers use 800x600, so its height could be increased too, by adding to the sky... and there's plenty of sky to work with.  That would make the field visible on the screen for longer.  And having an increased-size jpeg can't be ''that'' much bigger.  But unlike any given article image, I guess it is a file that's loaded by thousands more people so maybe that little increase could be a big deal.  Anyway, a tiled background wouldn't be entirely authentic to TBC's work but could still make sense.  And yes, I know it's not too important to change it, but I'm always [[User:OptimisticFool#WANTED|asking]] for a challenge (of the image variety).  I'm going to play around with it for a bit.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:02, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Hey! I use 800x600, and I like it! Well, that's when I'm on my computer. No idea what the resolution is on my TV when I'm on my Wii. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:::::Are you [[Dislike of Old People|60+]] or do you just have bad eyesight?  =]  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 18:53, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm pretty sure the Wii's Internet Channel emulates an 800x600 screen as well.  As for the tiling background issue, it definitely would look better if it were either widened or changed so that the tiling is seamless, though I don't think it's too important to change, as there aren't many pages on the wiki where we end up seeing the entire background image.  {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 18:07, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::The Widescreen  setting on the Wii makes the resolution something else. Though my laptop is Hi-Definition. (which is wide) {{User:DrPepper42/sig}} 18:13, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::For your information, I prefer not to have everything on my screen about the size of a grain of sand, and I have excellent eyesight. And I do set my Wii to widescreen. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:::::::''{kills colons}'' What does having grain of sand stuff have to do with anything? Hi-Def leaves stuff the same size, but with a better resolution. {{User:DrPepper42/sig}} 20:18, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::::''{adds another colon anyway :D}'' Actually when you set the Wii to widescreen mode, the screen width stays at 800, but the height is changed to something else.. I think it lowers it to around 450 or something.  Oh, and I have my Wii set to widescreen mode and text is, for the most part, readable to me.  Though whenever I use the Internet Channel on a standard-def TV, the text definitely is grain-of-sand sized.  :S  {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 20:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::''{kills the new colon}'' Oh. I thought he was talking about Hi-Def laptop screens. {{unsigned|DrPepper42|20:42, 21 June 2008}}
This thread is for discussing the size of our background image. Discussions about why your particular screen resolution p0wns everybody else's should go on the forum.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:I was talking about what effects my screen had on the background. It doesn't look that bad. Maybe I'm just crazy. and, I don't use the forum. {{User:DrPepper42/sig}} 23:55, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::As you can see from my awesome colon indentation, I was not replying directly to your post but was rather commenting on this discussion in general.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:23, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:Field.png|thumb|Fit to be tiled]]
Here's [[:Image:Field.png|the tile]] and [http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2048/fieldtiledtr0.png this is what it looks like tiled].  I tried grayscaling it and getting the brightness and contrast to match what we already have, but it just wasn't working for me.  So these are my results in color.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:Nice work, Oppie. The tile effect is positively seamless. If someone could get that greyscaled, I think we should use it. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:24, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
::Looks good to me! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:33, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Awesome job, OptimisticFool!  {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 19:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the support so far, juys.  Now here's what I suggest: Replace [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/headbg-kb.jpg this 23.5k jpeg] with [http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1783/fieldgreyxd2.png this 11.2k png], thus turning [http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3047/fullbeforeiu5.png this] into [http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7641/fullafterpl8.png this].  I added some extra cloudless space at the top of the greyscaled image since it will always be completely covered up.  <small>(There are two exceptions (that I can think of) to this: (1) someone blanks a page completely, and (2) a <nowiki><pre></nowiki> goes long, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=571744 like this] (hint: scroll right).)</small>  So, yeah, the extra space allows the background to be visible for longer.  Any other suggestions?  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 07:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
:So, umm.. is this being considered?  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 21:19, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
::Sounds good to me, but somebody with the powers would have to actually carry it out. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Here's another [http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6264/before1440x900sa7.png Before] and [http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9693/after1440x900ii6.png After], this time from my Lappy.  The 1440 width shows it better than the 1280 width.  And Super Martyo, what I was wondering is if the folks with powers were considering this.  =]  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:26, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Oh! Yes! I'd read this thread a while ago and just got busy and hadn't had a chance to replace the appropriate files. Not to worry, though, it will be happening. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Cool tapes, man.  =]  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:20, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::Another month and a half-ish... is this just low on the to-do list, or has it gotten forgotten?  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Not forgotten. We're upgrading to MediaWiki 1.13 soon, and this change will be included in that. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:42, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

== Spongebob in china? ==

On youtube i found this video and matt chapman name was in it
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HIavxnUHls&feature=related]
: I know it's come up before, though I can't recall where. I believe we decided it was a coincidence. "Matt" and "Chapman" are not uncommon names. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::[[Talk:Matt_Chapman#Chinese_Spongebob.3F|This]] is where it was discussed before.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:31, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

== Accepted Spelling ==

I think the wiki ought to be consistent in its spelling.  Recently the spelling of [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Weclome_Back&diff=prev&oldid=573690 donut/doughnut] reminded me of this.  Another one is [[Talk:bedtime story#Gummi vs. Gummy|gummi/gummy]].  Has the broad subject of consistency in spelling been brought up before?  I think it kind of goes in the category of flavor/flavour, as well.  Another one that comes to mind is y'all/ya'll.  So, do we or should we have a page to list our "decisions" regarding spelling, with its accompanying talk page available to reach a consensus for each of these and others?  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:02, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:Such things would probably go under [[HRWiki:Manual of Style#Spelling]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:32, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
::As a general rule, we spell it like TBC do. If they have not spelled it out, or they have been inconsistent (and we always agree with their spelling in related situations) then we generally use the most accepted spelling based on what evidence we can collect. "Doughnut", IMO, trumps "donut" which is clearly a shortened, slang form. "Y'all" is the correct form; however, we use "ya'll" when TBC do. And obviously American spellings are used over British. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:37, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't agree with you on the spelling of donut.. =] ..but my purpose in bringing this up here was not to gain consensus, but rather to find out where I ought to take these questions of spelling.  Since [[HRWiki:Manual of Style#Spelling]] is where the topic is addressed, I'll take it to the talk page of that article.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:05, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== __utm.js ==

Anyone know what significance (if any) [http://web.archive.org/web/*hh_/www.homestarrunner.com/__utm.js this] has?  It doesn't appear to be on the site now, but it used to be.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:12, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

:It's part of a traffic report analyzing system they may have used (or just toyed with... or maybe their ISP just put there... ).  The Urchin software was bought by Google in '05. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 03:31, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

== Random Junk ==

Is it just me, or does the rando link, and R on the main pages not work more than normal. This also affects sbemail menu. I constantly can't do rando junk because of it. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:Hmm, all three seem to be working for me... does it affect anything if you try a different web browser or a different computer? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
::It worked suddenly 4 mins after that. =/ {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:::Great! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
::::It does this off and on though, for me at least once a day now. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:::::What exactly isn't working? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:22, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::rando link in the bottom (horizontal) navigation, R button on all of the main pages, and sbemail menu. This happens at least once every day to me. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

== The [Character Name Here] ==

Is there an article describing, outlining the use of "The" in character names? If so, what's its name? {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:See [[Integral Article]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:56, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

== Timeline/Historical Dates for homestarrunner.com ==

As someone interested in reconstructing the history of how the Bros Chaps developed the Homestar universe and website, I would really like to see a feature on the wiki that would list all the content according to the date when it was first added to the Homestar website. 

Most articles do currently feature dates, but to my knowledge there's no page where the cartoons and other material on the Homestar website are listed by date.

I'm not an advanced Wiki person, so I've no idea how much work would be involved, but it strikes me as a really vital resource for the wiki.
--[[User:Henebry|Henebry]] 23:23, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:[[All Toons]] lists everything by date. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 23:30, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::These have the ''updates'' for [[H*R.com updates 2000|2000 and before]], [[H*R.com updates 2001|2001]], [[H*R.com updates 2002|2002]], [[H*R.com updates 2003|2003]], [[H*R.com updates 2004|2004]], [[H*R.com updates 2005|2005]], [[H*R.com updates 2006|2006]], [[H*R.com updates 2007|2007]], and [[H*R.com updates 2008|2008]]. If you would like a briefer history, go [[Timeline of Homestar Runner|here]]. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 23:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Search Engine Addition In Firefox ==

Firefox cuts off the search engine name, and labels it as '''Homestar Runner Wiki (En''' is there any discussion or whatnot to have the name of the wiki shortened so that it fits? Because it's annoying to see that I can still add '''Homestar Runner Wiki (English)''' to the search engines list (The search box also says a new search engine can be added even though I've already added this engine.) You can always bring it up over at Mozilla.com's bugzilla or something, but I'm sure the bug will immediately be marked as invalid. I'm also sure they'll mark it as an invalid enhancement, and state that "The website can shorten its name, there's NO reason why it isn't possible for them to shorten that name."

For instance, Why not use HRWiki as a name? {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:I don't get why it should annoy you. That being said, there's no reason for the wiki to shorten its title to something less descriptive just so you can have the full name in your search bar. If you care so much, download the source code to firefox and change the code yourself. As for the "Add Homestar Runner Wiki (English)" still being there, that happens with all search engines. Go to any site that you already have on that list, it will do the same thing. Basically, none of what you said has anything to do with us. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qX8bZASFNA I have to disagree] with the very last statement there. I'll make it harder for you to see (with this youtube video) since you apparently haven't seen it yourself. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:::Fine, you're apparently right. It doesn't happen on other sites. It's still a result of something that has nothing to do with us. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:08, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::::I'll admit I'm at a loss to understand what the issue is. Can someone summarize in small words, please? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:11, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::::(edit conflict) <strike>The "Add Homestar Runner Wiki" thing at the bottom is there because Firefox is detecting a search box on the current page.  For example, go to any random page that has a search box on it, (say, https://addons.mozilla.org/)  Check that drop-down and you'll see what I mean.</strike> (Post edit conflict note: the other issue is aethetic, the name for the wiki is wider than the space Firefox displays it in). {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 02:14, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Ignore the first part, I see the problem now.  I'm guessing that because the truncated string doesn't match the full string, Firefox doesn't properly detect that you've ''already'' added the search. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 02:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::Qermaq, it's an issue that the firefox search bar only allows names of up to 24 characters. He's suggesting that the wiki shorten its name so it fits, inconveniencing others but fixing his minor annoyance. GreenGuy, no, he's saying it's there even though he's added it already. He's right, this bug in FF causes this as well, but it's a FF problem, and i don't see any reason for the wiki to change to suit one person with one glitchy program. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I see the issue. It's not an issue. It's just a bug in FF3 and will likely be corrected down the road. I fail to see the negative consequence of this behavior, though. You can select "'''Homestar Runner Wiki (En'''" and type in, as I did, "sbemail50" and it works. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:22, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I can see how it would be a minor annoyance, but seriously... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:25, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::I see now.  Anyway, yeah I'd say just deal with it (24 is a very small limit to impose, I wouldn't be surprised if the mozzerella coders increase that in future releases). {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 02:42, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Seems a recent update of Firefox may have fixed this issue. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 23:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Bringing back an old discussion ==

For a while, there was discussion of a main page redesign for our welcome project, but it sort of died in the water. I though this was a good idea, and some of the design were really nice. Any chance of bringing it back, or are we just going to leave it? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:59, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well, I think it was just one of those things we got too busy for and moved on to other things, but if you have a great idea, I'm sure we'd entertain it. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:12, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::Well, the redesign was being done in conjunction with adding links to the multilingual welcome pages, which also seems to have gone fallow as well.  I suppose both projects are now dormant? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 14:29, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Read-Only Forum ==

How long will it be until we can post stuff on the forum again? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 23:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:That has not yet been determined. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:01, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
::Did you at least find the cause of all the Lucy/Ricky/Billy Mays crap? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 02:41, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:::It was a little joke done by the Admin Ramrod. It was supposed to be only temporary, it was only for fun. <s>[[User:extremejon|extremejon]]</s> {{unsigned|76.113.157.206|07:03, 20 July 2008}}
::::I think you mean, it was an ill-conceived stunt gone horribly wrong that was supposed to be a joke done by the former admin ramrod. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:48, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Without getting into forum politics, Telltale Games relied on the forum to get information on their game out. - [[User:Lunar Jesters|Jesty]]<sub>[[User talk:Lunar Jesters|Talk]]</sub> 17:09, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::And they will again, once it finally reopens. Not to worry, though: They have accounts here at the wiki, and they have emailed us directly before. I'm confident if they have news, it will reach the appropriate audience. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:23, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::The stunt didn't go wrong until the head admins took action. <s>[[user:extremejon|extremejon]]</s> {{unsigned|76.113.157.206|20:51, 20 July 2008}}
::::::::Yeah, you're probably right. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:45, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Wait, ''former'' admin ramrod? You unmodded him? {{User:Hrjcm/sig}} 20:59, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Do I have rights to know why the forum needs to be closed even after undoing the prank and punishing ramrod? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 03:27, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
:That's a weird way to ask that question. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:40, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
::What are the other reasons the forum's still closed? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 03:50, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Please disclose the reason the forum is closed for read only. How's that? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
:Well, it may have to do with the fact that the lower (Read as "good") half is now in the archive section. Plus, Stu somehow lost his powers. Let's bombard every modmin with emails! {{User:16 BIT MARIO1/sig}} 00:47, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::I disagree with that course of action. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:19, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
As someone who reads this Wiki fairly often, as well as the forum, I'd like to know just what caused the forum's downfall.  I think it's fair to be told, or at least a note posted on the forum itself.  [[Special:Contributions/98.111.114.133|98.111.114.133]] 06:02, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
:All that at this time is confirmed and publicly available is that the forum moderator ramrod pulled a prank that was taken by the admin team as a sign that his account had been hacked. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 06:20, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
::Lemme clear up a few things. I'm probably not even supposed to say half of this, but since no one else will...
:::1) Ramrod did pull a prank, but it ws well-known what was going on between all of the active mod team. He was eventually de-admined due to a misunderstanding. - the "senior admins", Stu, Dot Com and Tom, assumed his account had been hacked and removed him in haste. 
:::2) The uproar among users caused by his removal from the administration was a large reason as to why the forum was locked. Dot Com, Stu, and/or Tom put it into read-only mode so that all angered suers would calm down.
:::3) Stu resigned from his place as an admin a few days after the forum was locked.
:::4) The H*R themed boards are planned to re-open. The Off-Subject boards will not, and will remain locked as an archive.
:::5) We moderators have no idea as to why the forum is still locked, as I am fairly certain everything that needed to be sorted out was done so long ago. Dot Com has not responded to any of our recent questions, nor has he said when the forum is planned to re-open.
::Hope that answers a few of your questions - Ju Ju Master.
:::I have no inside knowledge here, but let me make a suggestion. CHILL. If the forums reopen too soon, there will be a fountain of drama. No one worth considering wants that. So it may take a while for things to simmer. Be patient. A watched pot never boils. Ignore it, and when you least expect it all will be right. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:12, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Too soon? It's been three weeks. I've been a mod there for a year, no event0based drama lasts more than 24 hours after the event. And you can't supress stuff like that. It'll end up somewhere, no matter how long you wait. Besides, anyone who could potentially cause drama has moved to a whole new forum. - Ju Ju Master
:::Qermaq: I do not believe that telling Ju Ju to chill was warranted. Many of the "regular" users on the HRWF--users that have been there for years, and chose to visit both the Homestar and Off Subject sections of the place--were stirred up when this conflict came up, and since many of the Wiki users posting in this discussion section do not seem to understand the situation too well, Ju Ju chose to inform everybody about what exactly went down. I have to agree with him: three weeks is definitely enough of a cool-down time, especially since the Off Subject sections have been known to be permanently locked since nearly the beginning of this issue. 
:::It is obvious that the HRWF will never be the same, and it is obvious that many of the regular users to the HRWF are now happier with a better system over at a new message board, and will definitely not go back to the place. Personally, with this change now solidified, I am happy that we have gone our separate ways; the HRWF as just a discussion board for Homestar Runner has never been done before, and I am sure that it will grow in its own way, as our other board grows in its own. - DS_Kid

"4) The H*R themed boards are planned to re-open. The Off-Subject boards will not, and will remain locked as an archive." D: *Leaves* {{User:16 BIT MARIO1/sig}} 21:34, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
:We intend to reopen the H*R-related boards soon. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:31, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
::Dot Com: That's good to hear. Please do it soon, or if it will take longer, at least explain why. I don't even plan to return and I'm agitated over this, I'm sure your active users are even moreso. - Ju Ju Master

== Stinkoman 20X6 ==

STINKOMAN 20X6 LEVEL 10 IS COMING OUT!
:I'm not finding any evidence of this. Where are you getting this from? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:07, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== (Main) namespace calamities?! ==

Is it just me, or is something rather mysterious going on with (main) namespace articles? {{User:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!/sig}} 06:14, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
:Which articles did you see it on? A vandal recently defaced two templates; perhaps you saw the defacement on a page that includes that template? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:17, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
::<s>Saw it on [[techno]]. Looks like it got fixed pretty easily, although I'm still not sure how he did it there. Guess it wasn't as serious as I thought, anyways. Silly me....</s> Ah, I see. Fancy fixedposition code in templates. Well... alright then. {{User:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!/sig}} 06:22, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== More skins ==

Maybe our admins (and other users) should get designing more skins. anyone who has an account on [http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/ SmashWiki] will know why I am saying this. there are only two that I like. Many users are probably in the same boat. Seriously, we need some more skins. {{User:DrPepper42/sig}} 00:27, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:What skins are enabled is a developer decision, so it doesn't rest with me. Still, I can't see why we need more skins, especially when the developers have many more pressing matters to attend to. New skins can be aesthetically pleasing, but do nothing to make our content better or make the wiki run better. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:42, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::Bells and whistles FTW, though, Heimstern. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 00:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:::I thought we only had one skin? {{User:Hrjcm/sig}} 01:13, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Ugh, I hate, ''hate'' the new default Wikia skin. I've thought of designing an updated skin for us, but if I ever do, it will look nothing like that. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:26, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::jcm: There are 3 skins that work here... MonoBook (the default MediaWiki skin), Cologne Blue (a minimalistic one, which I use), and TaviStyle (designed to look like [[Old:HomestarRunnerWiki|Old:]], used in an [[User:Phlip/Aprilween|April-fools thing]]). The other stock MediaWiki skins may or may not work... and might need some tweaking in order to look nice... I haven't tried. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Modern works. (after IDC did a blockquote fix.) Not sure about the others. {{User:DrPepper42/sig}} 07:41, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

== A small problem ==

There appears to be an open <nowiki><small></nowiki> tag on every page. I believe this is from the Fall Fundraising Drive message on top. --[[Special:Contributions/75.128.21.118|75.128.21.118]] 01:32, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
:I'm not seeing a problem. What's your OS and browser? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:13, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
::[http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrwiki.org%2Findex.php%2FMain_Page there is no problem] the validator would catch that... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
:::I use Mac OS 10.5.4, with Mozzila Firefox. I have no idea what may be causing this, but it's not much of a problem since I don't visit here too often. (btw, The above IP address is mine.) --{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 03:07, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Seems it might be an OS-related bug. I use the latest Firefox and no issues. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:38, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::I can't imagine something client-side doing that... the page gets rendered serverside, then sent. I don't see why a browser would modify the html... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Something even more weird is that it is fine now. Oh well, case closed. --{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 05:23, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Great. (DeFender, I suspected a W3C compliance bug, perhaps, in the Mac build. Just shooting in the dark....) {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:04, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

== RSS Feed? ==

Does HR Wiki have an RSS Feed? {{User:Rootbeersoup/sig}} 19:56, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:Yep. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&feed=rss Right here]. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 20:08, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

::What you're probably looking for is something exactly like [http://theblackforge.net/hrwiki.xml this feed], provided and hosted by Dan Fabulich of [http://www.theblackforge.net/ theblackforge.net].  More information can be found in [http://www.livejournal.com/community/syn_promo/2005/06/23/ this livejournal post], [http://www.livejournal.com/users/hrwikiupdates/ the livejournal feed page], and [http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=hrwikiupdates the livejournal feed info page].  For feeds provided by the wiki itself, see [[HRWiki:Feeds]].&nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:59, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

== Rocoulm b/w Beans ==

I just randomly found one of these, and I can't remember if anyone's already seen them. Apparently, there's one for every animation that appears in the Toons menu. {{unsigned|69.243.144.252|02:59, 30 August 2008 (UTC)}}
:http://www.homestarrunner.com/menuswfs/menu_ween07.swf
:http://www.homestarrunner.com/menuswfs/menu_sbemail182.swf
:http://www.homestarrunner.com/menuswfs/menu_main25.swf
Thanks for pointing that out! Yup, we know about them. There's a link to each of them on the [[Toons]] page under the Preview column. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:01, 30 August 2008 (UTC)