Editing Talk:Rap Song

==Coach Z Doesn't Sound Like Himself==
Hey!!! did any of you notice that coach z doesnt sound like himself until the rap{{unsigned|67.170.119.144|0:45:18, 2007-11-13}}

:That because it was a powered by the cheat cartoon.{{unsigned|68.210.53.58|0:53:04, 2007-11-12}}
:The Cheat is doing the voices.{{unsigned|75.72.21.221|0:53:29, 2007-11-12}}
:That would be great... I mean [[Mike]]. He tends to do that for those [[Powered by The Cheat]] thingies. But perhaps it should be mentioned in the transcript when it's a PBTC voice and when it's Coach Z's voice. -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&amp;CS]] 01:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::How should it be noted, however?  It doesn't look like there is any precedent for dialog in a PBTC voice and then a musical piece with the regular voice.  Should {PBTC} noted in front of each line, or note in the description? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 14:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'd support putting "Powered by the Cheat" or something tothat effect in front of everyone's name until the song starts. The Cheat made an intro on his own, and then made a video to a previously recorded R-A-P S-O-N-G. That's my view of it, at least. [[User:132.161.138.10|132.161.138.10]] 20:35, 13 November 2007 (UTC) (I used to have an accoun, but I guess if you use it too infrequently it's DELETED? That's happened to me twice.)
:::I'm pretty sure accounts are only deleted under extreme circumstances. I believe this is the case in most wikis, sometimes for legal reasons as well as technical ones. Here at the HRWiki, I don't think [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/ the license] prevents them from deleting accounts (though I'm 1: not a lawyer, and 2: haven't really read the license looking for that kind of thing), but the technical issues here remain the same as anywhere else: If you delete an account, what happens to all of their edits? In any case, knowing what your account names were would help in tracking down the problem, and a [[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]] could help you if you brought it to their attention. Well, if it's an account issue, you might just need a [[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|bureaucrat]]. -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&amp;CS]] 03:36, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

==Dr. Dre Reference==
I'm glad to see the Dr. Dre "reference" was deleted.  I'm sorry I spent the time adding links.  Besides that it's a rap song (and rap songs are all alike, right?) I don't see the similarity.  And I'm certainly not comfortable with the links because of the profanity in the Wikipedia articles.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:14, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

:I'm unfamiliar with the song, so I have no clue if there's any hidden references to it in this toon. I removed it because... well, I think facts that say "there is a reference to whatever" without saying what, exactly, the reference *is*, are essentially useless. They more or less expect you to *know*, which not everyone does. -{{User:YK/sig}} 02:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Incorrect reference for Mix Tape==
I think the fun fact is grabbing the wrong part of the Wikipedia entry for "mix tape." This 'toon is definitely referring to the Hip Hop definition of mix tape, more like a demo than a home-made sample of other people's tracks.

From wikipedia:
"Often each track on a promotional hip hop mixtape will feature the same artist, thus making it more difficult to differentiate from the definition of a standard album. However, these mixtapes will usually have much lower production values than a studio album (such as housing "Demo" versions of tracks, or simply un-mastered/un-mixed versions of the tracks), and contain numerous collaborations, remixes, freestyles and voice-overs, often arranged in a specific flowing fashion, much like retail albums are."
--[[User:24.188.228.33|24.188.228.33]] 05:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

...Oh jeez. You're probably right. --[[User:Duck Secks|Duck Secks]] 02:36, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

==New Math==

<blockquote>
*"My name is [[Tenerence Love]]" actually equals <math>Tenerence Love + 1</math> by order of operations, not <math>Tenerence Love remainder 3</math> as stated.	 
**Additionally, if the equation is interpreted as <math>(My name is Tenerence Love + My Name is Tenerence Love) / My name is Tenerence Love </math>, it should equal two, by factoring.
</blockquote>

...so, we're debating the mathematical formula behind what're basically nonsensical lyrics? As I said in the edit summary when I removed these, this seems to be talk page material and nothing more. Anyone? -{{User:YK/sig}} 05:12, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

::I was about to say the same thing.  They're FUN facts, people.  Who honestly cares whether or not it would be remainder three or the square root of piemonade????  I vote DELORTED!!--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 05:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC)  Edit: oh, it already was delorted. Too little too late.
Keep it civil. I actually found this very interesting and worked it out for myself. ''MyNameIsTenerenceLove'' = &ndash;1 if you perform the addition before the division; otherwise it is undefined. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:03, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:I'm not saying it's not *true* or anything... I think it's great talk page material, but trying to analyze a nonsensical "math problem" in a comical rap song seems... a bit odd, IMO. -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::Hmm... I guess I hear the maths differently to you guys... I hear it as (abbreviating ''MyNameIsTenerenceLove'' as <math>x</math> for readability): <math>\frac{x+x}x = x\mbox{ r}3</math>, that is: <math>\frac{x+x}x = x + \frac 3 x</math> which solves to <math>x=1 \plusmn \sqrt 2 i\,</math>. Of course, this has problems, as the "remainder" thingy usually only makes sense when you're dealing with integers, not complex numbers... but it's a reasonable extension. Anyways, the order-of-operations reading, <math>x+\frac x x=x\mbox{ r}3</math>, makes even less sense, since the division has to be the last step for the remainder thing to make sense. Also, I'm with YK here... precedent is that pointless mathematical overanalysis, however fun, belongs on the talk page. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Glad to see I'm not the only one who heard that and thought of a quadratic equation. I'm tempted to claim this is an IR to Virus ("Did the quadratic formula explode?" -SB) but that's... um... unlikely. At best. It could also be a nod to the old Bogus Mathematical Theorems, but I doubt that as well. Anyway, for the record, even though it makes no sense to state the equation with a remainder using the order of operations reading, you can still solve it for ''MyNameIsTenerenceLove''. It's 3. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 21:21, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

To anyone who wants this in the article: Y'all buscuitheads, you remind me of ''[[Wikipedia:A Beautiful Mind (film)|A Beautiful Mind]]'' &mdash; "finding" meaning in the meaningless.  Rondleman, you crack me up. Crack! Me! Up!  (P.S. I <s>hated</s> strongly disliked ''A Beautiful Mind''.)  Whew, I get ornery at 1:00 in the morning!  I do have to say, "the square root of piemonade" made me laugh.  Thanks for that, Nevadie.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 08:13, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

It's just a parody of the fact that he said "plus" in the second line, which can mean adding in the grammatical sense or in the mathematical sense. It's called poetic license. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 20:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Awexome. Poetic license and all that. Oh, and dot com, I wasn't being uncivil. Only sarcastic.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 22:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

"Finding meaning in the meaningless"? Isn't that the whole point of this wiki? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:11, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:The equation is impossible, given the "remainder 3" part that you all seem to be ignoring, order of operations, there's no way to have a remainder three in such a case, and order given, there's no remainder at all. This is not a real equation, it's impossible to solve, and we shouldn't even try. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:15, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::The equation, performed in the stated order, is perfectly solvable if you think of it as a quadratic equation and treat "MyNameIsTeneranceLove" as a variable (say, X). The "remainder 3" would then be "X remainder 3," which is just another way of saying "X plus 3 over X." Phlip explained this quite adequately. If you take the order of operations into account, the equation is even easier to solve. It's first year algebra, and X ends up equaling 3. Sompm's HS math teacher explains this one below, and it's pointed out (sans explanation) above. The fact that it really makes no sense to use a remainder in this kind of equation, and that you wouldn't actually encounter such a problem (either version) in real life, does not make it "impossible to solve." We've solved it. Both versions. Several times. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 04:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

::I think the problem here is people are assuming that the mathematical operations being used are defined in the "normal" way, and that phrases such as "My name is Tenerence Love" can be treated as a variable, or a value in some set of numbers. While I think [[TBC]] were just being silly, if anyone were to seriously attempt to analyze these quasi-mathematical statements it'd probably be wiser to interpret them using some other definition for the operations. 1+1 does not always equal 2. Addition with real numbers is defined differently than it is for matrices, or in an abelian group defined over an elliptic curve. [[Wikipedia:Abstract_algebra]] is a good place to start if you really want to damage your ability to see mathematics the same way ever again. -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&amp;CS]] 00:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::hmm... but there isn't really such a thing as dividing matricies. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Inverse matrices. Division in the set of reals is simply multiplication by the inverse of the divisor <math>(\tfrac{3}{4} = 3 * 4^{-1})</math>. It's a little harder to find the inverse of a matrix than it is in simple algebra, but that's the closest thing to division in matrix math. Not all operations are defined for all sets anyway. That was partially my point. My other point was that mathematical operations have been defined in a number of ways not familiar to most people, and can be freely redefined (especially since people made it all up in the first place). In this case, only [[Tenerence Love]] could really tell us what this was supposed to mean. And in reality, it was most likely just TBC being silly. I don't think either of them has advanced knowledge of math, given that Mike studied Fine Arts, and Matt went to film school. Tenerence Love's probably not a mathematician either, neglecting the fact that he doesn't actually exist beyond H*R. -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&amp;CS]] 09:40, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I was value-ing this, and here's what I came up with: 5 plus five (ten) divided by five is three off five. is my name is tenerence love 5? oh, wait, I just figured out. that's not hor remainders workI was value-ing this, and here's what I came up with: 5 plus five (ten) divided by five is three off five. is my name is tenerence love 5? oh, wait, I just figured out. that's not how remainders work [[User:Sompm|Sompm]]

I ran it by my highshool math teacher mother, and we came up with this: according to the order of oprations, we divide x by x first, to get one, so it's x+1 = xR3, and because the fraction of the division is the remainder over the denominator so it's x+1=x+3/x. if x is 3, the x+1=x+1.
in short, "my name is tenerence love" is 3. [[User:Sompm|Sompm]] 02:38, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Anony ties lowercase i's in:  [[User:Dagron|Dagron]] 02:39, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
"*Solving (Tenerence Love + Tenerence Love)/Tenerence Love = Tenerence Love remainder 3 yields Tenerence Love = 1+i&radic;2 or 1-i&radic;2. This is another instance of [[lowercase i's]]."

A slight correction for Dagron:
When you plug 1-i&radic;2 back into the equation, you get 0 = 4i&radic;2.  If you write out the equation as you did, only 1+i&radic;2 correctly solves for Tenerence Love.  This, of course, ignores that when it is calculated by the ordinary order of operations (as was pointed out by Sompm and the math-teach-mommy), the answer is just 3.

but didn't he say "equals tenayeaaarence love!"?? so it's a whole different integer! x+x/x='''Y'''R3! no problems! [[User:Sompm|Sompm]]

:An instance of Lowercase i's. From the solution to a fake math problem. That may well be the best stretch ever. Even better than the Iron Sheik/Iron Cheek/Buns of Steel connection and the Eggs/Organic Batteries/"Eggs Not A Fruit" connection. I love it. (Ok, ok, forgive the blatant sarcasm, but this is just too funny. =P) -{{User:YK/sig}} 03:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok, we get it; some people don't think math is fun.  We don't need those of you in that category to stomp all over our fun.  In regards to the different interpretations of the formula, it seems that the most viable one is the one represented VISUALLY in the rap song itself.  We don't just have a spoken word, we have a text as well, which should clear up all ambiguity. -TheHat 03:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh wow, I hadn't even noticed all this was going on when I added that comment again myself. Sorry. [[User:162.84.76.224|162.84.76.224]] 02:52, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I just gotta say, I was also thinking about the math of this. And to all of y'all who think it's weird or strange, there are those of us who find math interesting. I myself am an engineering student. If if it wasn't people like us, the computer connected to the internet and running on the outlet power that you're using wouldn't be at all possible. -Eaglescout1984 02:38 19 November 2007 (GMT)

== warsh ==

I'm not sure if anyone cares, and I'm sure it doesn't belong in the article anywhere, but I thought it might be worth mentioning that in some areas of Eastern Canada, especially [[wikipedia:Prince Edward Island|PEI]], pronouncing the word "wash" as "warsh" is actually part of a regional accent.  I used to live in that region, and almost nobody my age ever said it like that, but a lot of us had parents who did.  Also common around there is saying "slippy" instead of "slippery", and saying the word "barrel" in such a way that it sort of rhymes with "Carl". - [[User:24.71.223.142|24.71.223.142]] 05:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

:Warsh is also a common pronunciation of wash in Kentucky and some areas further south. Unusual that it makes the long leap up to Canada and skips over everything in between. [[User:Maktaka|Maktaka]] 09:39, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::As interesting as that is, I don't think it has anything to do with Coach Z's pronounciation of the word. He simply pronounces all words like that, and the majority of them do not sound similar to any other accent in any region. (For example, Port = Putt. What?) {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 10:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:::If I recall, Coach Z was originally intended to have a sort of US midlands accent that quickly began to devolve and get weird, until it's really just replacing some sounds with "or" and "ar" sounds. Now it doesn't really resemble any sort of language at all. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:55, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::My grandma (born and raised in Minnesota) has always said "warsh" .. I'll bet it's a reference to her!  Will someone please add this to the article: '''"Wash" being spelled as "warsh" is a reference to [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]'s grandma who has always pronounced it that way."'''  By the way, it's not Coach Z's pronunciation we should be talking about here; The Cheat is responsible for the word "warsh" .. not Coach Z.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:01, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::My Hoosier relatives have been know to say "worsh" and/or "warsh" on occasion. Say, aren't TBC from Indiana? --[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 21:48, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Wash was also spelled and pronounced as "worsh" in 20X6 vs. 1936. Perhaps it's a referance to that too! Personally, I feel it's a TTAOT. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 05:13, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

==Anthropomorphic Egg==
When I saw the egg chasing after Peacy P's limo/waffle house, my first thought was that it was supposed to be one of the villains from Data East's [[Wikipedia:Burgertime|Burgertime]], but a quick check of the box art shows that the egg didn't wear a domino mask as portrayed here.  Is this a ''Burgertime'' reference despite the cosmetic difference, or is the significance of the egg relevant to something else? [[User: Nekouken|Nekouken]]
:Dude, it's breakfast, and it's walking.  Some things in these cartoons are just silly for the sake of silly, not everything is a reference to something and/or has a hidden meaning. - [[User:24.71.223.142|24.71.223.142]] 05:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I did notice one thing about the '''EGG'''.  And that is that the '''EGG''' appears to be holding a gun, and also the '''EGG''' has legs, and an animation (running) that seams almost Identical to that game on H*R where you shoot each other, have the same style leggs as this '''EGG''' and run the same way the '''EGG''' does in this video.   I think the game was called "Where's an..." Damn! I forgot the last word of the title... [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 15:04, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

==Nate Dogg==

I believe that Tenerence Love is 'sposed to sound like Nate Dogg. And also "It don't stop" is something that alot of rappers (especially Snoop Dogg) says. [[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]] 07:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:Tenerence Love wearing a donut reminded me of Luther Vandross and his infamous diet, but I don't necessarily think that's a reference, either. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 13:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Rap Song Visuals ==

Someone needs to write a separate article for the video's visuals (I don't know if I have time to do it) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 14:18, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Fast Food Freestyle==
This supposed RWR ("Peacey P places an order for food much like in the video "Fast Food Freestyle" on Youtube.") needs some discussing, methinks.  Pretty funny video, and similar, but sometimes there's an overlap in ideas that TBC may think are original but that have been done before.  Is it a reference?  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 15:56, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'd have to say TTATOT.  It's just another random thing they do.  Ordering breakfast in the middle of a rap song.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Peacey P ==

...is the abbreviation PCP, which can mean a lot of things ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCP]), but probably Phencyclidine. This would make it another drug reference. --[[User:91.97.14.14|91.97.14.14]] 16:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:See his character page. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 18:27, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Coach Z's accessories==
If you may notice, Coach Z's hat and Z change during the toon. {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}
:That's because The <strike>Chort</strike> Cheat isn't a very good Flash animator. -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:09, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

==I don't even know who's song this is==

Is that part a reference to the reputation of rap songs sampling other songs without permission? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 20:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:I took it as him admitting that he works with so many other rappers that he can't even keep track of whose song he's in at the moment.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 01:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::What about the "I thought I made that abundantly clear!"? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 03:32, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

== Yes Yes, Yall ==

reference to the Will Smith song? most likely a coincidence, but i immediately thought of the Will Smith song Yes, Yes Yall (i think that's what it's called). whatchyall think? --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 20:22, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:I really hate resorting to TTATOT, but this definitely qualifies.  "Yes, Yes, Y'all" is a phrase that's been used in Hip-Hop since the Old School days (oh, busted a rhyme, without even tryin').  I can remember the Beastie Boys singing it on their first album, as well as it being used for Grandmaster Flash, Run-DMC, and The Fat Boys.

==The end distortion==

When the picture is distorted at the end, the singers sound nauseated. I don't remember this originally. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 03:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

== Sterrance in background of last section? ==

Take a look at the last section of the rap song when Tenerance Love is flying by on a doughnut.  What is that pink thing on the right?  It vaguely reminds me of [[Sterrance]] from [[animal]] but it's a bit off.  Any ideas? --[[User:Spoom|Spoom]] 04:18, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:Hated to remove this from the page, but it's actually the running Egg from the breakfast. Y'all biscuitheads! -- &rarr; [[User:Peacey_P|☮y P]] <small>&hellip; ''Y'all biscuitheads!''</small> 04:44, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::Ah, obviously :^P  Don't worry about it, I never actually added this to the page before I put it here, so someone must have been overly ambitious. --[[User:Spoom|Spoom]] 05:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

== Waffle House ==

Does the explaination of what Waffle House is (Since it's where Peacey orders breakfast, though named differently) seem worth including on the page? Also, can anyone tell what name is scribbled on the top of his order? &rarr; [[User:Peacey_P|☮y P]] <small>&hellip; ''Y'all biscuitheads!''</small> 04:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

The name looks to be "_est Chef" with the blank being unreadable (to me) but I assume it's "Best Chef". Nothing there, I guess. Interesting though that "Tos" for "Toast" is there, when previously it was "Toz" for "Toes". &rarr; [[User:Peacey_P|☮y P]] <small>&hellip; ''Y'all biscuitheads!''</small> 04:53, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

== Noteworthy "pseudo-goofs?" ==

I'm surprised no one's made mention of a few "pseudo-goofs":

* At the words "come to do his landry," Coach Z briefly appears to have two left forearms.

* After Coach Z asks if he can record on new album, Peacey-P's body clearly disconnects from his head.

* Coach Z's left eye briefly pops out of his head at the words "I thought I made that abundantly clear!"

* When singing, Tenerance Love's moustache and goatee occasionally overlap his microphone.

These are obviously not honest goofs, but they stand out as exceptional even considering The Cheat's usual two-years-old-boy style.  Worth adding to "Remarks?" [[User:Catgirl|Catgirl]] 05:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

:They *have* been mentioned, repeatedly. They just keep getting removed, because we don't point out The Cheat's "goofs". The "feauring" thing is an exception because that appears to be an honest typo. It's correct the other two times, and Teh C doesn't have a history of typoes or misspellings. -{{User:YK/sig}} 05:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::I thought we normally put PbTC "goofs" under Remarks. I know for a fact we've done it before (in [[animal]], for example). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:58, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Granted I just skimmed it, but I didn't see any PbTC "goofs" listed in the Remarks section of [[animal]]. You sure that's the one meant? -{{User:YK/sig}} 06:02, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I know there was something in there at one point... About how objects pass overtop the christmas lights, but under the fanglyfish... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::I feel that these pseudo-goofs do deserve some merit. I didn't see the first and third pseudo-goofs, and I found them interesting. I feel they should go under the "remarks" section. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 06:29, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::Agreed, they probably should go *somewhere* in the fun facts, but given the sheer number of them, it seems like they'd just clutter the Remarks section... Perhaps a new subsection for PbTC toons? -{{User:YK/sig}} 06:37, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::That sounds good. Maybe it could be a subsection of goofs. (Call it PbTC goofs or something). {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 06:48, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::The notion of making a sub-section for this type of content seems quite warranted, especially if such things keep getting added and deleted.  My feeling is that if TBC went through the trouble of glitching up PbTC segments, it's worth documenting.  "PbTC Goofs" or "PbTC Style" seem good to me. [[User:Catgirl|Catgirl]] 16:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Maybe these should go in [[Rap Song Visuals]], if anywhere.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:00, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Did anyone notice the extra buttons on the end of the rap on the radio?   [[User:SCchilidog]]16:32 Dec 5, 2007

== "I'm the best guest rapper in the music biz" visual ==

I noticed that visual where Peacey P is rapping in front of his golden record, all but his afro is reflected.
:Another psuedo-goof? (See above). {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 07:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

It's just because his afro is black and the background of the golden record is black. His reflection is underneath the actual record.
:No, his afro is definitely missing.  IMO, this one's worth mentioning cause it's not so noticeable and isn't the typical screwed up transformation/alignment that always go with PBTC stuff, but is a distinct oversight (probably intentional).  But it'd probably just get deleted again.  [[User:65.2.33.109|65.2.33.109]] 06:36, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::Looks to me like the afro is missing, too. Could be a goof, but my bet is it belongs in the [[Rap Song Visuals]] page. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 21:26, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:::It looks to me like the background is just too dark to reflect it.  Either way, it's a the Cheat Flash animation, so such a "goof" can probably be chalked up to his skill or lack thereof.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 05:07, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

==Superfluous explanations==

Do we really need to be told what words are portmanteaus? Is this just another example of people needing so badly to put their name on the article that they add obvious information?
:[[portmanteaus]] are a running gag, and should of course be mentioned. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:26, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

== The Stow in Crample-O Stow. ==

Is it just me - or is the "STOW" on "Crample-O Stow" another reference to [[Style]]? Think about it. Crample-O contains "Cramp" and "Stow" sounds exactly like a "ghetto" type mutilation of the word "Style". Crample-O Stow is most likely a mangling of "Cramping of Style" or something similar. Someone else can probably pinpoint the actual phrase that's being obscured better than I can. Heck, the Rap Song even contains "You're crampin' my style!". &rarr; [[User:Peacey_P|☮y P]] <small>&hellip; ''Y'all biscuitheads!''</small> 06:06, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:Actually now I see it on the Style page, though I don't think it's actually "crampin' my style." Oh well. &rarr; [[User:Peacey_P|☮y P]] <small>&hellip; ''Y'all biscuitheads!''</small> 06:09, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:I definitely thought that too, but wasn't sure if it merited putting in. Well, it's in now! :P [[User:Octan|Octan]] 20:50, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

== The Cheat's Animation Style ==

Does anyone else think that The Cheat's style of flash animation is becoming more mature with this video? Some of the visuals are really quite well done. Is it worth mentioning?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 11:52, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:I don't really see any difference between this and the older cheat stuff... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:53, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::The bulge effect was impressive, but not much else was different from, say, Everybody to the Limit.  And the silhouetted dancers aren't that hard to do when working from reference. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 17:25, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:::However, if you notice, in some parts of the video, Coach Z and Peacey P are drawn with more realistic proportions, actually looking like real people, rather than the usual characters in the H*R universe.  At least, I think so.--[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 13:14, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I wouldn't say that Teh C's style isn't remarkably better than [[Everybody to the Limit]]. It's clear that Teh C's [[The Cheat Theme Song|four]] [[Everybody to the Limit|music]] [[Hip Hop Dance|video]] [[Rap Song|projects]] are much higher quality than his [[Crazy Cartoon|standard]] [[mile|animation]] [[New Boots|projects]].[[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 14:48, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Coach Z and Peacey P are both colored right, and overall the animations seem more consistent. I think you're right, Flashfight. The random [[PbTC]] stuff is supposed to be bad, whereas [[TBC]] wants the music videos to be good, though still in the PBTC style. I know I find this latest video very appealing. I can't get the song or the visuals out of my head, and I don't really mind either. -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&amp;CS]] 19:53, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

==Ben Cousins's Tattoo==
This RWR was inexplicably removed, so I re-added it but decided to provide a link here on the talk page to make it painfully obvious that this is a reference.  First, I found some pictures of the [http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,22384115-5005401,00.html actual tattoo], and for improved legibility, here's a link to show some [http://search.ebay.com.au/search/search.dll?satitle=Such+is+Life shirts] designed to match his tattoo.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 14:44, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

:Except, isn't that a common style of tattoo, particularly among rappers? I believe "Thug Life" tattoos are in the same place, shape and font. I don't have the cartoon open to compare it to, though. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 16:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::[[Wikipedia:2Pac|2Pac]]'s [http://www.thugradio.net/thuglifepacsstomache.jpg thug life tattoo] is in the right shape (though the arc is quite a bit shallower), but wrong font, and it uses an image (a bullet) for one of the letters.  Granted, people have immitated 2Pac's tat and gotten closer to the font used in this short, but I doubt TBC was going for a "reference to an immitation of the tattoo of somebody famous".  Visually, the "RAP SONG" tattoo is a better match to Ben Cousins's tattoo, although it would make more sense for this to be a parody of a rapper tattoo.  So maybe it's TTATOT.  And hey, I'm anti-tattoo.. so, while I think the wiki should be accurate, it wouldn't break my heart to see this reference go.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 16:36, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I removed it as TTATOT, though I do think it's really a direct reference to Tupac's.  TBC have referenced it twice before, in [[Halloween Fairstival]], and in its corresponding creator's commentary. [[User:Dagron|Dagron]] 03:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

==Three Times One Minus One==
Does anybody else think that the RWR implying this mess refers "to David Cross and Bob Odenkirk's spoof R&B duo 'Three Times One Minus One'" is TTATOT? [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 08:21, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:Decidedly '''not a reference'''.  Removed.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 15:31, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

== Mumbling ==
Are we sure that it's supposed to be Peacey P at the beginning?  It struck me as just some kind of PBTC... sound effect?  [[User:Dagron|Dagron]] 21:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:At first it struck me as a sound effect too, like random "music" or something following Peacey P around, but Coach Z reacts to it as though he's speaking ("I can understand well that's a yes..."), so I think it's actually supposed to be P mumbling or rapping incoherently. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 04:18, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

== Do his landry ==
Do you suppose TBC chose to mispronounce "laundry" ''specifically'' as "landry", since Tom Landry is a famous ''coach'' of the Dallas Cowboys? -- TJDevil02

:I think that's just what "Laundry" would sound like with Coach Z's accent.--[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 13:12, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

There may be something to this.  In "A Decemberween Pageant," he tells someone they're on again in farve.  Pronounced like the last name of packers QB Brett Favre.

==spelling of the word "crisp"==
I really don't think this is a Crips reference. I think if any allusion is being made, it's the frequent error of saying "aks" instead of "ask".
[[User:171.64.126.37|171.64.126.37]]
:I don't think either of those is a reference. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:24, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
::I personally think it's a spelling mistake. Period. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:27, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

== Dry Toast ==

The first thing Peacey P orders in the diner is a piece of dry toast.  Could this possibly refer to Elwood Blues of the Blues Brothers?  His signature food was one piece dry white toast.  Just a thought.--[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 01:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:If that was the only thing he ordered, I might agree with you, but he orders more, so I don't think it's relevant. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 01:34, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

== Out in the "Cold" ==

This is now the third time someone's inserted the word "cold" improperly into a song: the first two were [[coloring]] ("Sippin' on a bottle o' email, cold havin' a picnic lunch with some coworkers") and [[An Important Rap Song]] ("You stroll into the kitchen, and what do you find? A bunch of knives cold staring at you!") Is this a reference to something, maybe a common practice in rap songs or something? Or is it just something TBC have been doing repeatedly for no reason (i.e. Running Gag page fodder?) [[User:Octan|Octan]] 20:57, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
:It's common practice to use "cold" as an adverb. Not just in rap, either. It's mostly street slang, as far as I know. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 22:58, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

== Your Funeral ==

When Coach Z accidentally tapes over Strong Bad's self-eulogy, was that an early recording of what would become this song? Or does his rap songs always sound like that? - Cyndentia who forgot how to link

=="flake"?==
Part of the song says:
COACH Z AND PEACEY P: R-A-P-S-O-N-G, yes,
Yes, y'all, and we don't flake,

COACH Z: Here comes Tenerence Love with an R&B break! 

What does "flake" mean in this song? I was surprised that wasn't in the explainations section. [[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]] 21:20, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

:As I know it (and I could be missing some 'new' meaning...) flaking is basically saying you will do something and then not doing it. For example "We were going to meet Jim at the movies but he totally flaked." could mean Jim either forgot to show up or chose not to, without letting the other parties know, even though he made plans to be there. So in the song I take it to mean "We don't flake" = "We do everything we say we're going to do without fail." :B '''&rarr;''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 05:44, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== P, comma, Peace-ay ==
Though it's difficult to hear, doesn't it seem that Peacey P should have said "P, comma 'eace-ay", rather than having the P in there twice? [[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 20:20, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:No, his name is Peacey P. Formally, last name first, it would be "P, Peacey". --[[User:DorianGray|Gray, Dorian]] 20:34, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::Ah, i see now. I was reading it as if it was him just saying his first name and breaking it up.

== It's Time to Play "Where's The Cheat"! ==

Is it notable that this would be the website's first PBTC toon not to include any references to The Cheat? (I counted the gold tooth in [[marzipan]] as a reference) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:26, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:No, since it's not accurate. Teh C provided voices for Coach Z and Peacey P in the laundromat scene. [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 04:53, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
::The Cheat is famous for his self-insertion cameos in his cartoons, though. Which, I think, is the Bad Guy's point. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:55, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
::Oh, my bad. I had not seen "PBTC" in B^2G's post. I still wouldn't call it notable, but since my argument is moot, I'll <b>Strongly Abstain</b> (RIP Old STUFF) [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 15:13, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
::Without having seen it, I cant be sure, but The Cheat doesn't mention himself in the Grumblecakes video, nor Home Page 15, nor These peoples try to fade me. If you want to include partial PBTC stuff (as your reference to marzipan is), then add in [[narrator]] as having no mention of The Cheat. I suppose you could throw [[web comics]] in there, too. -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 17:02, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, Grumblecakes and These Peoples are not part of the website, Main Page 15 and web comics are not toons, and narrator I just forgot about since it was so short.  I'm gonna revise my fact some more. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:38, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Saying Grumblecakes and TPTTFM don't count because they aren't on the wedsite is taking a frankly dangerous step towards limiting the Body of Work discussed on this wiki [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 06:22, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

== Beastie Boys reference ==

I'm pulling that one out for the time being.  I'm certainly no hip-hop expert, but I have a relatively good-sized collection of the old school, and the "and we don't stop/quit/break/whatever" phrase is used quite a bit.  If there's any tune that particular phrase and the rest of that little segment make me think of, it's 8th Wonder by the Sugarhill Gang.  However, my overall point is that short of a direct mention in a future commentary, I think we should hold off on trying to connect certain phrases to particular songs unless it's extremely overt.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 04:46, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:And just for the record, I'd consider "extremely overt" to be something like the "lyricbolical Coach Z" line, which can hardly be anything but a reference to that Biz Markie tune.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 04:48, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:I think you might be right. "And we don't stop" has so far been attributed to "Posse in Effect" and "Sure Shot", both by the Beasties. It'll probably pop up in other songs as well. "We make references, and we don't stop!"{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:42, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Green the Cheat ==
[[Image:Green_The_Cheat.png|thumb|right|Greenness]]
Regarding the recent edit, the color change is easier to see if you look outside the frame. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 15:11, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:We do not generally note things that can only be noticed outside of the frame. There's no visible color change to the viewer. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::Yes there is. I can notice it inside the frame. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Any blurry photographic evidence to back this up? Because I looked for a color change for some time and did not see it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:26, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm colorblind and I can see it. Especially look at the top of his head (his feathers maybe?) to the left of the desk in that small crevice after he leaves. It's pretty pronounced. {{User:Flashfight/sig}} 09:48, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Here's some non-blurry photographic evidence... the left bit is from frame 1840, where Teh C. is just talking normally; the right bit is from frame 1924, where he's almost out of frame. Definitely greener. Not much greener, but still noticeable. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

== Tenerence Love ==

The Trivia Section includes a hidden text saying "do not add anything about the bogus math equation". Why? Tenerence Love is -1. 2T/T=T+3, 2=T+3, -1=T. Why can't I include that in the Trivia Section? [[User:Thesithwithashotgunshell|Thesithwithashotgunshell]] 16:58, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
:See above for arguments. (In the future, please check to make sure the issue you're wanting to discuss has not already been raised on the Talk page.) And you're wrong, by the way, as "remainder three" would come out to three over the divisor, which is "My name is Tenerence Love," or 3/T, not 3. {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 17:47, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
::I want to lay this to rest once and for all. There's two ways to understand the equation, neither of which would end up with a remainder. either it's (x+x)/x=xr3, or it's x+(x/x)=xr3. The former simplifies to 2x/x=xr3 or 2=xr3. a whole number cannot produce a remainder. If it's the latter, it simplifies to x+1=xr3, and once again, we have a whole number producing a remainder. I stress that this is ridiculous and not a real equation. Period. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:15, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:::As I'm sure is stated above, he doesn't even say his name the same way the last time. The first three times he says just "Tenerence Love"; the last time he says "Tenaaayerence Love". In other words, a more accurate way to write the equation would be x+x/x=yr3, where x may or may not be equal to y. (I just stuck with order of operations instead of adding parentheses, since they weren't stated in the original bogus equation.) This is precisely why names do not make good variables. Any change in intonation or pronunciation could indicate a different variable. Anyway, there's just no point trying to make sense out of this. Anybody who watches the toon can draw their own conclusions. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 03:16, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

== Eye puking?!? ==

Am i the only one that sees Coach Z puke out his eye or something? It happens right before he says "Now here comes the hook!" This weird green stuff comes out his eye. It helps by going frame by frame.
:Powered By The Cheat stuff is always a little wonky. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:23, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

== TENERENCE LOVE ==

I don't know if this is a goof or not but while Tenerence Love is singing the microphone is behind his beard
: I reiterate my response to the previous topic on this page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:58, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

== L7 is here ==

Hey does the order of breakfast is a references to L7 back in black with their backwards messeag of "All beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun. Two all beef patties. *Laugh*" . ?