Editing User talk:Defender1031

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== the next epi-snowed ==

I added that fun fact because it is a little odd that Blue Laser would tell his minion to add something that has already been added, especially since Blue Laser appears to be staring at the list as he says it.  I would think this merits some fun fact-ness.  {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 22:23, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
:It's been added and removed a couple of times, and is on the [[Talk:The Next Epi-Snowed#Cold cuts easter egg|talk page]] without much response. I personally think that something that obvious isn't notable, that's all. You are right, i should have been a bit descriptive in my summary. (Also thank you, my talk page is no longer lonely.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

== Happy 8600 ==

If the template IS on the page, shouldn't we link to it? Why aren't the TD and iMac onthere, either? {{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 14:45, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:This is not the place for this discussion. They are not on there because they are not strong bad's nor has he ever used them to check an email of his... actually, on second thought, he DID use TG once... so perhaps that one should be... i don't know, why not start a thread on the talk page for that template, as in, not here. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:46, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

== Good user ==
Would I be qualified as a good user? I know I don't do much, but I try to make articles and Images better...
{{User:MichaelXX2/sig}}
:Everybody is a good user! We all do something to help the wiki as long as you're editing, I like to think. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 12:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
::Do I qualify? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 02:01, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Of course! :] {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}}

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You deserve this. {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 03:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC) 
:Thanks. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:49, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
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You deserve ''this.'' You earned it, so hang it on your talk page in honor! {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 16:26, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

== Sorry ==
Sorry that I was mad at you at the talk page. I hadn't exactly realized what you were doing. Sorry. Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 22:44, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:Not a problem. I understood that you were unaware of the proper way to move an article. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

== Heyyyy... ==

Will you umm... make me a... halloween sig? {{User:Acam30/sig}} 01:25, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:I can try, but my sig is very simple, just a gradient. All i did was change the colors of it. In truth, i'm pretty bad at sig-making. I would probably temporarily make homsar in orange on a black background and do something with the letters and those colors. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::I can help with the image, if I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here.. (a pink pool of blood, perhaps?) ;) {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:45, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm already in the process of uploading... some of the edges are a bit off, but i expect it won't matter in the 20px size anyway. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Ooh okay. Coolio! Opty... for the image I was thinking maybe HOmsar dressed as Slash? {{User:Acam30/sig}} 01:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::In that case, i'll let opty handle the image. (I suggest re-uploading over the existing Image:HomsarInPink.png so that it doesn't use another PI page for Acam, as well as so that that part of the sig doesn't need changing.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:55, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Done.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:17, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Perhaps it'd look better if you gave him an orange shirt? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I don't know.  Orange and black aren't the only colors that would look Halloweenish.  But here's what he looks like at [http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9199/orangeslashfullcd0.png full size] and as part of the sig: 
:::::::::<span style="white-space: nowrap"><span style="color:#000000;">&mdash;</span> '''''[[User:Acam30|<span style="color:#FF8000;">A</span><span style="color:#000000;">c</span><span style="color:#FF8000;">a</span><span style="color:#000000;">m</span><span style="color:#FF8000;">3</span><span style="color:#000000;">0</span>]]'''''</span> http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7596/orangeslash20pxva7.png
::::::::Acam, your thoughts?  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::YAAAAAY!!! Thanks guys! Me likey! {{User:Acam30/sig}} 11:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Do you prefer the blue- or the orange-shirted Homsar-as-Slash?  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:02, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::Blue is grood. I likes it! {{User:Acam30/sig}} 11:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

== Sysop ==

DeFender, you need to be a sysop. I'm surprised that no one else has made you one yet. You would make an awesome one! {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 11:40, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:Wait, DeFender's not a sysop?! I'm speechless here, honestly! I agree, he needs to be one! --[[Special:Contributions/70.143.29.193|70.143.29.193]] 02:28, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::Truthfully now, I wouldn't mind him to die in a hole. [[Special:Contributions/70.148.111.10|70.148.111.10]] 19:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Wha... why?! What'd Deffy do this time? {{User:Acam30/sig}} 19:34, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
::::He didn't die. [[Special:Contributions/70.148.111.10|70.148.111.10]] 19:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::I assure you, i'm dead on the inside. Seriously, let's not do this here. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:37, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::Actually, I agree with Acam. He needs to live and live as an admin, now that I think about it... =3[[Special:Contributions/70.148.111.10|70.148.111.10]] 19:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

== Your Pic ==
Defender, the [[BMW Lighter|Fire]] in your pic kinda looks like [[The Cheat]] is on [[BMW Lighter|Fire]]... a very crude [[The Cheat]] that is. :P --{{user:Thewi2kbug/sig}} 16:01, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:To me it looks more like a dinosaur smoking a cigarette... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:06, 15 October 2008 (UTC)



== Your sig pic ==

Do you want me to possibly remove the background? Just wondering, I'm bored and have photoshop and need to do something productive. {{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 12:40, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
:No thanks. I don't feel like wasting a personal image and wiki server space on a one-time holiday sig. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:48, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

== Scripts ==

How do you write scripts? Like to do a gradient comment. Where do I go? What do I do? {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 00:00, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:I don't know what you mean by "comment". But the script i wrote to do gradients is in C++. I've spent nearly 4 years studying programming, which is how i know how to write scripts. I don't know where to tell you to begin. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== B-Day! ==

[[Image:TheBee.PNG|thumb|Bee day!]]
Well, not where I am, but in Israel I guess it is. Here's a card I made you: <span class= "plainlinks">[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJEooaD9hTE http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/Winnuh/Picture4.png?t=1225407008]<span><br>
Your pal, {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:53, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
:Well, that's just Danday!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:49, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
::"Congratulations, Daniel on your 2008 Birthday! ...I'm [[User:MichaelXX2|MichaelXX2!]]" "Uh, I think it says that in the sig, Mikey." "Well I didn't know that!" {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 12:13, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
{{clear}}

aww, crap, someone beat me to it.  and mike beat me to it.  happy birthday, halloween and dia de los muertos to you, defender.  and, as a special treat, and to incluse a homestar reference.......

*ahem*

sweet sweet deffy, 

today is the day on your fake ID, 

so get upstairs, 

uh, 

and fix me some Dinner (because it's five here)


now go answer some emails and your birthday gift from me is done


happy Birthday, Dan Foodeater! <!--irc joke, not sure if you were in the channel i typed it in--> {{clear}}
from {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 21:01, 31 October 2008 (UTC)        and all of hrwiki (probably)


<big><big><big><big>HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEFFY-PIE!!!!!!!</big></big></big></big>
<center>{{User:Acam30/sig}} 00:28, 1 November 2008 (UTC)</center>

== Quick Question ==

Hey! I just have a quick question. How do you submit fanstuff? I searched it, but I just got a link to a page that didn't do anything. I don't know if you know or not, but I thought it was worth a shot. [[User:Tigerstripe|Tigerstripe]] 21:58, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:I really don't know, having never done so myself. I assume it's as simple as sending a picture of it in an email to TBC, but i really don't know. [[User:Phlip|Phlip]] once got his thing featured, why not try asking him? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::You could always just [[Email]] TBC.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:55, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== irc problem ==

hey, dan.  i got disconnected and when i try to go back in, it says my nick is in use and doesn't let me in.  any way around this?  or do i need to wait?  {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 23:43, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
:nevermind.  i'm back in {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 23:45, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

== my mentor... ==

I'm probably thinkin' you're my mentor and all. I could nominate you for sysop abilities, but keep up the good work. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:11, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:17, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

== Redirects ==
Hi [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]], It's [[User:Mas12806|Mas12806]]. I was meaning to ask you, how do you make a redirect? I wasn't exactly comfortable asking an [[HRWiki:Bureaucrats|admin]], and I needed to know how so I could keep the Wiki moving. And your welcome for the Brunswick Stew! Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 02:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC) 
:You create a page with the content <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Target Pagename]]</nowiki> {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:41, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
I knew that way, but when I tried that, it came out as this instead as a regular redirect:

#REDIRECT [[Homestar Runner]] 

And a regular redirect page looks [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar&redirect=no like this]. Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 03:00, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 03:00, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
:What do you mean by a "regular redirect"? what kind of redirect do you want? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:37, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
::Did you put a space between the "#" and the word "REDIRECT"? That would cause the redirect not to work. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 03:39, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Note that when you preview a redirect page, that's how it'll look. When you actually submit, the MediaWiki software does its magic, and it turns into a proper redirect page. --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 03:49, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Now I understand everything. Thanks [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]], [[User:Homestar-winner|Homestar-winner]], and [[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]]. A new redirect I did: [[The Brothers Chaps Office]]. Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 13:04, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

==Could you set me up with a Sig?==

[[User:homsarstrongbad150|homsarstrongbad150]] sent me to you if I wanted a sig and colourful username, could you tell me how to do it? [[User:ALJ123456|ALJ123456]]
:You may want to start [[HRWiki:Signature|here]] and [[Help:Signature|here]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:01, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
::Hey DeFender, I have a sig but can you blend some colurs together plz?  like green and black and whatever else?  It would be a big help.  thx.  also, could you show me how to make it show up whenever i do <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>? At the moment i just paste in the code.  zee you nezz tim! <span style="white-space: nowrap"> [[Image:homsar_evolution_current.png|20px]][[User:Open Source Greg|<span style="font-family:font; color:#3C0;">Open Source Greg</span>]][[Image:Open_Source_Greg.png|20px]]([[User talk:Open Source Greg|talk]] &middot; [[Special:Contributions/Open Source Greg|edits]]) </span>
:::I kind of need you to be a bit more specific about what you want. And as for making it work with the tildes, go to your preferences, set your signature to be "<nowiki>{{User:Open Source Greg/sig}}</nowiki>", and make sure the "Raw signatures (without automatic link)" box is checked, and then save. That should do it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:02, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
::::wow, thx.  I guess my sig is good enough. [[User:Open Source Greg|Open Source Greg]] 00:44, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::Would you suggest changing my sig at holidays, or my birthday? {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 00:54, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::I like to. But it's totally up to you. If you're like me, you'll just bug smart peoples like Deffy here to make you one whenever a holiday rolls around. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 03:30, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::And if you're REALLY smart, and your name is Acam30, you go online while you're editing to say hi every so often... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:32, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Actually, Acam30, I wasn't suggesting he make me one for holidays/birthdays, I was asking if it was a good idea to change it for holidays/birthdays.  Also, could anyone tell me how to blend colours together in your sig?  Thanks.  {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 04:06, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::The color blend thing is a script i wrote that is currently available only to me, that i intend to re-write at some point to make it web-based so that anyone can have access to it. At the moment, you need to tell me exactly what colors you want and what the text should be, and i can do it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:11, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Basically, I just want to have one color blend for the whole year, and change the pictures to match that time of year.  The color blend I want is dark green --> light green --> white/light grey.  Do you think you could help me? {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 10:18, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::Also, I want a thicker font. {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 10:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)        Sorry if this is too much, but I feel [[Bogus Mathematical Theorems|the better the sig, the better the user]]
::::::::::::Never mind the font, I figured that out :) {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 10:43, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Do you think you could help me with the color blend by the 8th of april? because that's my birthday? {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 09:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

== "then why did you delete this too?" ==

If you really want to know, it's because I'm using the Wii to edit again. (my Lappy's battery doesn't charge) {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 02:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

== DVD transcripts ==
I did the commentary transcripts for [[coloring]] and [[trading cards]], but they probably weren't completely accurate. Can you take a look at them both, please, and fix them both if you can? Thanks. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 00:50, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:What makes you think that i have the DVDs? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::I've seen your scripting for the [[keep cool]], which is on the same DVD as the two emails I did, so I figured you might be able to help. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 01:05, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Whoops. My mistake, it was The Pizz who had done the [[keep cool]] email. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 01:10, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== Sandbox problems ==
I checked the sandbox it it was all weird. there were blue boxes and black boxes covering everything. Can you try to change it back?[[User:Luis123|Luis123]]Luis123[[User:Luis123|Luis123]] 02:36, 23 December 2008 (UTC)




== Apparently I'm Not Helping ==
I have recently been charged with not helping when I post on the wiki.

Where I come from, teaching people to learn the meanings of phrases before they use them IS contributing - To society and education.
Where I'm from, education is paramount and stops you becoming a retarded txt speaker and McDonalds employee. {{unsigned|85.210.103.185}}
:Anonny, your edits were not constructive but disruptive. Your tone was confrontational, and your edits belonged on the talk page, not on the actual article. If you have any criticism on what should be in articles and what should not be, then please use the talk page to voice your concerns. In a civilised manner. Thank you.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:30, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

== user boxs ==

you used when you discovered hrwiki twice
:Thanks, but it's not. One is when i discovered the site itself, the other is when i discovered this wiki. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
::I was wondering about that, thanks for the tip on my user page. [[User: Platinum789hi|Platinum789hi]]

== Pi revert ==
{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Pi&diff=prev&oldid=623102 concerning this edit}}<br />
Can you please give me a reason why you think it is not a stretch? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 11:59, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:They picked those numbers and dates. They have been known to stick in references to pi in subtle places. It stands to reason that they purposely picked these to reflect pi. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

== Why come ==

okay, sorry, I didn't know about that page.
:nothing to apologize for. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:57, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
::oh.  well then i guess i made ur bottom ten

== Bottom 10 ==

I saw your bottom 10 and I am sorry.  --{{User:Blow Up the Ocean/sig}} 21:23, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:Hahahahaha, it took me a second, i was about to write "for what?" when i realized.... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:26, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
::I was going to write your opinions are total crap, but I thought that wouldn't be nice. --{{User:Blow Up the Ocean/sig}} 21:30, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:::That is correct. That wouldn't be nice... But since you didn't actually say it, it makes it totally fine to say that you WOULD HAVE said it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:46, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==
Hey man! Thanks for fixing my page along with [[User:It's Dot Com|It's Dot Com]]. I've been trying to do that ever since I signed up! With Lots of Crap, [[User:Record307|Record307]] 01:33, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
:Any time bro, glad i could help. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:33, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

== Talkheader ==

Hey, I've created a new template at [[Template:Talkheader]].  I was wondering if you were any good at Wiki code, because I'm having three issues with it.  Once the box is finished, I'd like to customize it to the Homestar Runner Wiki. Also, if this is redundant, let me know.  [[User:Son|Son]] 16:35, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Hey there, i'm actually curious what all these templates you're creating are for. We tend not to create templates without extensive discussion. I get the talkheader one, but not the others. (Also, there's better ways to put headers on all pages of a namespace than templates, and such a thing is best left up to the site developers.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:36, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks for tagging those.  I wholesale copied the Talkheader template from Wikipedia.  In the process, it had these other templates layered in it.  In my tired idiocracy, I tried to build those as well.  It was becoming hopelessly complicated. At that point, I at least moved them into my userspace, though it's probably a lot simpler to just delete those in the first place.  I thought that perhaps a talkheader would be a nice improvement to the site.   I probably should have put in a request some where.  If that's the case, I'll keep that in mind for the future.  [[User:Son|Son]] 16:47, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Well, i can tag the remaining ones in your user space for deletion if you want. As for the talk page header, we already have something sort of like it, {{tl|talk}}. It might be worth expanding and seeing if the devs want to have mediawiki automatically add it to the top of every talk page. I certainly would support the idea, your template makes it very clear what talk pages are for, and it might be good to have a short list of talk page rules there. I think i'll bring it up with the devs and get back to you on it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, that sounds good.  I appreciate your help!  [[User:Son|Son]] 16:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Anytime. And let me officially welcome you to the wiki. I notice you joined over a year ago, but didn't do much at the time and never got properly welcomed.
::::::Thank you! I appreciate your welcome to the Wiki!  [[User:Son|Son]] 17:05, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== tt ==

I looked up what < tt > means...
From [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TT#Computing_and_electronics Wikipedia]:
An HTML element for teletype or a monospace font family, e.g. <tt>monospace</tt>.  
I'm guessing it's something that standardizes fonts if people use different skins in their preferences.  

Hope this was of interest to you.  It was to me when I saw you wondered (what I'm sure was probably more rhetorical than less...), so I looked it up.  Thought I'd spread the word!  
[[User:Son|Son]] 18:36, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks. It was unnecessary where it was anyway, also i think that these days it's been obsoleted in favor of more standardized css. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:56, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== Pictures ==
Hey dude, one question. You wouldn't mind if you could send me pages that need images, I'll be happy to supply one! I mean you don't have to do it every day but, just tell me pages that are in DIRE need of images. Asking for a favor, [[User:Record307|Record307]] 23:09, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Actually, you can see that yourself if you visit the [[:Category:Articles Needing Images|Articles Needing Images category]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:13, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== OMG! ==
DUDE YOU ARE A SAVIOR! THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOOO MUCH. I FINALLY HAVE A SIG! Just one question...
How to I use my sig?--{{User:Record307/sig}} 01:15, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:Look in your [[Special:Preferences|preferences]] under "signature", and paste <nowiki>{{User:Record307/sig}}</nowiki> into the box. Make sure to check the little box for a raw signature. Cheers, {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 01:06, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
::Did you follow my link at all? {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 01:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah see {{User:Record307/sig}} 01:14, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Awesome, man. Just, awesome. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 01:38, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Side note to this...is it acceptable to use a signature icon of someone's who hasn't been active on the site in over a year?  [[User:Son|Son]] 05:06, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:I'm afraid you'll have to be a bit more specific. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 05:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
::I saw a user who's been inactive since November 2007 (methinks) with a Steal Your Face.  I left a note on the user's talk page, so you can check in my recent contributions to see it.  I'd like to use it, if that's considered kosher.  [[User:Son|Son]] 05:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

== Cricket Helmet ==
Hi, I dunno if you saw it, but I was hoping you could clarify your answer on the image talk page.  -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.94|132.183.151.94]] 15:42, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== The recent block warning ==

I can't tell any change between the post you did and the way MichaelXX2 "fixed" it for you.  Can you explain the difference, just for the sake of someone unfamiliar with wiki syntax? -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.140|132.183.140.140]] 23:44, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:Sure. when putting "subst:" before a template, it will replace, or SUBSTitute, the template call for the actual code contained therein. For example, if i have a template named "example" that contains "This is a sample template", if i were to write "<nowiki>{{example}}</nowiki>" somewhere, then when i go to edit the page, it'll still say "<nowiki>{{example}}</nowiki>" in that spot on the edit page. If i wrote "<nowiki>{{subst:example}}</nowiki>" instead, it would instead have "This is a sample template" written. Outwardly, the pages would look identical, only in the code does it matter. I hope that answers your question, cause i don't know how to make it any clearer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:51, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::That was clear, thanks a lot. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.140|132.183.140.140]] 23:55, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:::What I don't get is why you reverted it, considering that [[:Template:blockwarning|using "subst" is Wiki policy.]] --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:54, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Feel free to ask me privately. And i don't consider that instruction sheet to be "policy". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:56, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, reverting it myself was my mistake. Looking back on it, you're not supposed to edit people's talk page posts unless they're breaking the page, contain foul language, or similar. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:18, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


== Thank youuu ==

I saw that crappy and unfunny vandalism that somebody did on a certain page.  Thanx for reverting it. THAT was just an eyesore. If somebody's gonna vandalize the least they can do is make irt clever and funny. --[[User:Sonicstar Runner|Sonicstar Runner]] 23:49, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:That's my job, defending the wiki, defending the policies of the wiki, defending my friends, defending my family, defending good programming practices... But i guess now i'm just rambling... Sooo.... yeah. '''Vandals:''' 0 '''''[[User:DeFender1031|<span style="color:#FF0000">D</span><span style="color:#F00010">e</span><span style="color:#E00020">F</span><span style="color:#D00030">e</span><span style="color:#C00040">n</span><span style="color:#B00050">d</span><span style="color:#A00060">e</span><span style="color:#900070">r</span>]]'':'' [[User:DeFender1031|<span style="color:#800080">1</span><span style="color:#700090">0</span><span style="color:#6000A0">3</span><span style="color:#5000B0">1</span>]]''''' 23:57, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

== kinda funny... ==

Do the proximity of [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Peeing&curid=31657&diff=628896&oldid=628891 these]  [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Fourth_Wall_Breaks&curid=3841&diff=628898&oldid=628875 three] [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Peeing&diff=next&oldid=628747 edits] seem a little ironic to you..? -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.187|132.183.151.187]]
:I'm unsure of the connection you're trying to make... and by "unsure" i really mean "no freaking clue". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:36, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::Just that you accused the edit summary of "No" of being vague. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 02:01, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:::You are correct of course, i'm guilty of it too. I wasn't complaining about the summary per se, i was just asking for a clarification. Everyone makes vague summaries sometimes... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== Different opinion ==
Yeah, so I thought I made a valuable contribution to the Homestar email toon article, I even went through the legwork of doing the necessary research to make everything authentic. Boy was I cheesed off to see it deleted within seconds! It took me a few days to do the trackdown, and it pointed to you. I was REALLY cheesed off until I went to your home page, and then I saw why you deleted said additions. I thought my contributions were significant. Heck, I never write ANYTHING online without first considering if it will be worthwhile or just internet poop, whether this note be a Facebook note or a blog. But after reading your page on what you think good content is, especially regarding pop culture references, I understood why you removed them. Yes, I will stand by my post. I still think it was important information. But I've had limited exposure to pop culture as a whole, so it's likely that the information I supplied could be found in a hundred places. And you feel that a reference to a concept (a reference that can come from a dozen sources) is unnecessary to mention. I agree. It just hurt to see my first post wiped out in seconds. --[[User:Bauerman24|Bauerman24]] 04:18, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not entirely sure what edit you're referring to, as you seem to have not made any edits with your account before this one, but i assure you that i meant no offense by reverting. For a long time I've said that we need a mechanism to revert edits while still letting people know that their contributions are welcome, but unfortunately such a thing would be tedious and annoying to do, as we often get anonymous users who make one-time edits that aren't worth keeping. But anyway, would you mind clarifying to which edit you are referring? Whatever it is, i'd be glad to discuss it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:39, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
I did the edit before I had a real account, so I just showed up as an IP [I KNEW you were going to look! haha]. The address WAS [[97.89.178.220]]. Probably the last one, but I don't know how to link to the history page or anything. I'm still new to this whole "edit-a-wiki" thing.

Like I said, I read why you remove posts like mine [even though I didn't know I was referring to common phenomena at the time]. I can't stand wasteful or poorly-written posts. I've edited a fair share of run-on sentence posts. So, thank you for keeping your wiki cleaned up and informative. These things can get bloated with junk fast.

Thanks for being understanding about it. I don't expect to see my work back up. In fact, I'd prefer it stay down, in the interest of an accurate, more concise wiki. Again, thanks for understanding and reading my concerns. I only hope that I can contribute some useful information to this wiki in the future. --[[User:Bauerman24|Bauerman24]] 04:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

== strong sad ==

Make a Strong Sad fanstuffy thing! "Each day we die a little more" is awesome! --[[User:Fangoriously|Fangoriously]] 05:15, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:I sorta got to a point in my life where i actually HAVE a life, so i haven't done any of those for a while... I had nearly forgotten about them actually. At one point i was planning on doing some of my favorite extended monologues and quotes with them, but unfortunately, life intruded. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:54, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

== Signature ==

How did you get your signature to be that cool? --[[User:Fangoriously|Fangoriously]] 15:56, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:He's awesome like that.-{{User:Record307/sig}} 16:35, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
::Which aspect specifically? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:57, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I want the gradient affect like in your siggy. --[[User:Fangoriously|Fangoriously!]] [[User talk:Fangoriously|Chat]] 19:47, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I have a script that i wrote that does it. If you tell me the colors you want and what text to use, i can generate a code for you. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:21, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::I want pink to purple, with the text "Fangoriously!" My talk page link ("Chat") can just be red. --[[User:Fangoriously|Fangoriously!]] [[User talk:Fangoriously|Chat]] 00:39, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::You used a script?  Dang, I had to go Google and search for all the HTML color codes individually... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 00:48, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::For Fangoriously: How's this? <span style="color:#FFC0CB;">F</span><span style="color:#F5B0C5;">a</span><span style="color:#EAA0BF;">n</span><span style="color:#E090B9;">g</span><span style="color:#D580B2;">o</span><span style="color:#CB70AC;">r</span><span style="color:#C060A6;">i</span><span style="color:#B550A0;">o</span><span style="color:#AB4099;">u</span><span style="color:#A03093;">s</span><span style="color:#96208D;">l</span><span style="color:#8B1087;">y</span><span style="color:#800080;">!</span> <span style="color:#FF0000;">(Chat)</span> Personally i think the pink is too light at the beginning, so here it is again starting with dark pink. <span style="color:#E090B9;">F</span><span style="color:#D884B5;">a</span><span style="color:#D078B0;">n</span><span style="color:#C86CAB;">g</span><span style="color:#C060A6;">o</span><span style="color:#B854A2;">r</span><span style="color:#B0489D;">i</span><span style="color:#A83C98;">o</span><span style="color:#A03093;">u</span><span style="color:#98248F;">s</span><span style="color:#90188A;">l</span><span style="color:#880C85;">y</span><span style="color:#800080;">!</span> <span style="color:#FF0000;">(Chat)</span> Which do you like better?
::::::For Guard Duck: I WROTE a script. Slightly different than merely using one. I am just THAT good. Seriously though, color codes aren't that hard to learn. Also, don't feel so bad. I did all the color calculations BY HAND for the first attempt at my sig, until i realized how helpful a script would be. I should really re-write it though, because though the code works and works perfectly, it's very messy code. Ideally, i should port it to javascript or something to make it available online. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:57, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::You WROTE a script, well that's very impressive.  Kudos to you for always being one step ahead. (Incredibly weak Homestar pun alert) {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 01:13, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Can you write me a sig? I'll ''try'' to give you an award for it![[User:Espemon333|-Espe Pwnage]] 21:31, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

== Behind the black ==

You say what happens behind the black stays behind the black. In Flash file world, which is where the toons really are, what happens "behind the black" that you see in the Flash file but not on the HTML page is really in the beautiful field of white. --{{User:Fangoriously/SIGGY HERE!}} 00:09, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:56, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
::I'm trying to say the toons are really only Flash files, and what you see in the Flash file but not on the HTML page is in the white, not behind the black. --{{User:Fangoriously/SIGGY HERE!}} 13:32, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Cute, but homestar says differently in [[flashback]]. But whatever you want to call it, the rule on the wiki is that we don't note "goofs" that are outside the frame and therefore don't appear in the html file, whatever you want to call it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:57, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Think of this another way. All the articles are written from the perspective of the html file, not the flash file. If something odd occurs "behind the black", it will not be visible when the html file is viewed and is therefore not a goof. Simply put, there's no reason whatsoever for the TBC to animate things that won't be seen in the html file anyway. So to avoid creating extra pointless work for themselves, they take shortcuts, like not bothering to put Strong Mad's mouth or Strong Bad's legs in. They are deliberate ommisions, not goofs, which is why we don't mention them unless they are ''very'' unusual. Also, you're not supposed to be watching the flash file anyway. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:44, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::I am still wondering why they put in a RED MARK during Theme Song Video's Flash file at the pool scene. --{{User:Fangoriously/SIGGY HERE!}} 21:46, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::Regardless of the reason why there happens to red mark offscreen, it is still nonetheless too mundane to be worth mentioning in the article. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:06, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

== No Longer Useful Images ==

Is it OK if I go through [[Special:Unusedimages|Unused Images]] and add not useful images to [[User:DeFender1031/ISC/No Longer Useful]] for you? I'll even try to update templates used on the images themselves and on the lists linked from [[User:DeFender1031/ISC]]. Although [[User talk:The Chort/Archive#Abandoning other users.27 images|I was once told]] by It's Dot Com that "we don't delete images simply because they're not being used", but this just seems like being lazy to me. I mean, if they're never going used ever again, what's the point in keeping them? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 13:24, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
:Well, that's exactly the point of that page... i was gonna wait till it was fuller before calling too much attention to it. Anyway, the point is to put images that are unused AND in no way homestar-related, not just unused as those could have a concievable use in the future. I wouldn't mind you adding images such as those there, just please keep them in alphabetical order. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:32, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
::You're marking things as done when they are still missing headers and stuff... The point of this project is to clean up the summaries of image pages, not to get rid of abandoned personal images, that's the side point. Changing personal images to abandoned personal images is not part of this project at all. To clarify, I don't mind pages that have not been cleaned up and given good summaries and headers being put on the no longer useful page, i ''DO'' mind pages that have not been cleaned up  and given good summaries and headers being marked as done. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:47, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Yikes, I've really screwed up this time. Ok, maybe I should just stick to compiling the list of No Longer Useful Images and leave everything else alone? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 14:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
::::It's alright, no biggie. If you want to cleanup the pages as you go on, that's fine with me, just make sure you're actually doing it. This was actually helpful, as it showed me that i wasn't descriptive enough when talking about what this project entails. I'm gonna add a checklist to the page that should help. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:09, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::I've just remembered, this wiki already has a list of abandoned personal images that probably have no use whatsoever to the wiki. [[:Category:Personal images abandoned|This page]] does pretty much exactly the same thing as No Longer Useful, except it shows you the images themselves and works automatically thanks to the personal-image-abandoned template. Would it be easier just to use that page? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 14:16, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::I'm aware of that page, however my page is slightly different. While there is much overlap, not all abandoned personal images are no longer useful (some could be screenshots from HR, which we should keep) and not all no longer useful images are abandoned personal images (such as if something similar to [[:Image:bat-climb.jpg]] were left over somewhere). {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:19, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== 2AnswerYourMAM? ==

I did it because obviously SB likes to prank call Marzipan so putting in a Subsection would be better so you can actually see when he was Prank Calling and when he was doing something else on the Machine. [[User:Meaty85203|Meaty85203]] 02:40, 5 March 2009 (UTC) The Same Person who made the sublist edit ):

== Spamer ==
DeFender, I think we have a spamming user in this wiki, I tried starting a talk page of [[Sbemailiarized!]] wondering if it was a promo for 2009's batch of Sbemails and Hremails, but some guy whose user idenity was not shown said that it was a compent about sbemails and that there would be no more hremails, and it got the page deleted. [[User:MICGAGUH]]

== Plz ==

i'm want do good edits stop of undo my edits becouse is so dumb undo my edits [[User:Lucsar|Lucsar]] 20:02, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry, the way things work here is community consensus. you can't just make edits that you feel are right and expect them not to be reverted when the community has already decided on something. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:05, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

== Request ==
Hey Def. Can you make me a sig...i have no idea how to do it, and ive seen some of your work. I really "appreceat" it. [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 15:55, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
:Well, I'm afraid that in the vast sea of sig possibilities, there are many sig fishes... you need to be a bit more descriptive as to what kind of sig you want... what colors? fonts? pictures? power doors? rear deck for dinner and dancing? a proboscis? Let me know and i'll see what i can do. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
::Well im kinda partial to the color green. So anything other than Baby puke. If you have the Doom [[Font]] (Which you can get in the fonts menu) thatd be good. And i guess the pixalated [[Stinkoman]] from [[Stinkoman 20X6]] would be cool. If your allowed animated stuff for the sig then i guess a running stinko would be kool. Thanks for helpin out. [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 18:50, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

== "'I Say it Looks Bad' Won't Help Resolve This" ==

The reason I think that is that one can easily argue against it by saying, "I say it looks good" and most of the time I have no idea whose opinion is more valid, especially since neither of us is a sysop.  I won't be surprised or ashamed if writing this has no affect on how you argue.  I just had to explain [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad%27s_Cool_Game_for_Attractive_People&diff=prev&oldid=644082 this summary] in a place where it would fit. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 21:14, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

== Regarding "How talk pages work" ==

Um, if no one's allowed to remove incorrect information, you should tell that to IDC [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk:FAQ&diff=637045&oldid=637004]. -[[Special:Contributions/170.223.0.55|170.223.0.55]] 22:30, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
:That talk page is a special case. Its purpose is not for the discussion of the corresponding project page or of any article, but is a help desk. Anyone replying to a question on that page is in a sense taking it upon themselves to speak for the wiki, and there are ways to do that and ways not to. In the case you cite, the reply was not only patently false but rude to boot. Rather than strike out or simply contradict the incorrect response, it was better just to remove it. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:50, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
::I see. -[[Special:Contributions/170.223.0.54|170.223.0.54]] 23:02, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Speaking to {{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Where_U_Goin%27_2%3F&diff=prev&oldid=645429 the issue we're actually talking about}}, our guidelines state that one should "not remove posts from a talk page unless ... there is a clear, compelling reason the post must be removed." Trying to avoid confusion by removing something you yourself said in error is probably okay, if it's caught fast enough (and I think eight minutes is fast enough). On the other hand, the comments are benign enough that it's also probably okay for your comment and DeFender's reply to stand as they are (with nothing being struck out). I think it was unnecessary for him to revert you once you had removed it, but now that it's back it doesn't need to be removed a second time. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:14, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry 2 ==

The "did you even check" wasn't aimed at you. I was attempting to revert with an edit and, for whatever reason, it didn't give me an edit conflict when you did the same. Sorry 'bout that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:49, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:Oh... heh... i thought the summary looked out of place... No harm done. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:50, 18 May 2009 (UTC)


== Accidentally made a page ==
can you delete http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Cheat_Commandos_2_Part_Episode:_Part_2 ? i made it without realising there arleady was a page.

== Strong Bad and The King of Town's Relationship ==

In your edit summary, you said, "yeah, we tend to specifically NOT bypass redirects with pipes for several reasons." What does this mean? like, what is a pipe? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 00:16, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
:"|" is a pipe. in wiki terms "pipe" is short for "piped link". a piped link is a link in the form "<nowiki>[[link|link text]]</nowiki>". We generally prefer linking to redirects where they exist over piping to avoid them for a variety of reasons. Hope that helps. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:25, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
::that makes sense, but i still don't know any of the reasons haha. i mean, i can think of one: in case a page is fairly long, doing that would help somewhat with the byte count, but that's the only thing i can think of. i hate to make you try to tell me a long list, but maybe a few others? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 00:31, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Byte count shmyte count... roughly 50,000+12=roughly 50,000. That's not the issue. There was a [[HRWiki talk:Standards#(Don't Fear) The Redirect|discussion]] on it some time back. The biggest reason is if there's a link to something that redirects to a section on a larger page, but could be made its own page eventually, the link wouldn't need to be changed, the redirect would just be made into a full page and viola, now your page links where it's supposed to. (That doesn't really apply to "X" vs. "The X" but meh.) Other reasons include that it looks better in the page source without the pipe, and that if people click on a link to one thing, it makes sense to have a little notice at the top saying why they got another. (Also doesn't REALLY apply in the case of "X" vs. "The X", but i'm a stickler for consistency.) That said, it probably doesn't matter SO much in this case, and wasn't really worth the extra couple of edits either way, but like i said, i like consistency. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:58, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
::::haha okay that works. what i was thinking was if you had several on the same page, that would end up multiplying. Those make more sense; thanks. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 01:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
==Main Page 24==
Did you see my edit summary? i was running out of room, so [[other days|i had to abbreve everything]]. it should have said: <i>"yes i saw that afterwards and decided not to revert myself b/c the remark seems to suggest otherwise as it is. the explanation is thorough, but since there's only one shirt subject tbc didn't invent, and because the remark suggests the shirts would be clear, i think it should be in both places."</i> i know we typically don't put information in two different places on the same page, and i could understand if there was just the one asterisk instead of two, but as it stands, the remark suggests that everything is unblurred when that is just not the case. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:21, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:From the "Button Effects" section:
:*'''[[Store]]''' — Glasses are placed on the viewer, allowing for better vision. Homestar's shirts are still blurred.
:Hence, there is no reason to add it to the remark. Further, the remark says you can watch the OTHER animations unblurred. It does not imply in any way that the shirt will be unblurred, especially when the button effect says explicitly otherwise. Lastly, this type of thing goes better on the talk page of the article in question, rather than a user talk. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:25, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::(1)I am officially blind for (a)not seeing that you said that (b)not seeing that it was in button effects. (2)ok i see your point now (3)i just figured you would see it faster on your talk page than on the page's talk page. and since you reverted me twice, i decided to ask you instead of anybody.<br>i haven't been reverted this much (not just this; it's happened a lot lately) since before i created an account. maybe i need a [[vacation]]. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:32, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:::That's all perfectly alright. No hard feelings. :) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:42, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

== Recent Changes Patrol Talk ==
Hi DeFender:
I see you edited my question on recent changes talk page. I specifically said in the summary that no one should replace the question because I saw seven other people saying and asking the same thing. I just wanted to save some space. Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 18:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's fine. Proper procedure is still to make a new section for new questions, and not to remove old ones. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:14, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

== Pipe Nazi ==

hey i saw that u called urself this on the standards page i just thot i woud tell u that that phrase may be offensive to jews so maybe u should not use it as much anyway have a nice day
:Maybe you should check out his user page. There are plenty of hints for what I'm getting at, but I'd say the second userbox is the best one. (Edit: It's actually been pointed out to me that there's an even better one.) Just a thought. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:04, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== Template help ==

I decided, since I'm in a little bit of a template issue, that I may as well take you up on your offer. After all, you've [[User:DeFender1031/sig|obviously]] shown us that you are an expert with MediaWiki markup and especially ParserFunctions. I'm trying to import a [[Wikipedia:Template:User wiki lang-2| MediaWiki language userbox]] (how ironic), and I'm trying to make the font size the same (11pt). However, using a <code><nowiki><span></nowiki></code> element in the <code>code</code> parameter to down the font size didn't work. There is no pipe in the parameter, and I even entity'd the curly brackets (the user box code is "<nowiki>{{Wiki}}</nowiki>"). Is it the equals sign for the style attribute? Will I need to work out some ParserFunctions in the [[Template:userbox|userbox]] template as to fix the problem and specify a font size? Or am I just missing/forgetting something?

Here's my code:<br />
<code><nowiki>
{{userbox|border=#999999|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#CCCCCC|code=[[Main Page|<span style="font-size:11pt !important;">&#x7b;&#x7b;Wiki&#x7d;&#x7d;</span>]]|msg=This user is an '''intermediate''' writer in the MediaWiki language.}}
</nowiki></code> {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 17:28, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
{|
{{userbox|border=#999999|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#CCCCCC|code=[[Main Page|<span style="font-size:11pt !important;">&#x7b;&#x7b;Wiki&#x7d;&#x7d;</span>]]|msg=This user is an '''intermediate''' writer in the MediaWiki language.}}
|}
Your code looks fine to me. Is there some problem i'm missing? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:13, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:The left side of the original userbox is in 11pt font. On my side it doesn't appear to be in that font size. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 22:53, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
{|
{{userbox|border=#999999|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#CCCCCC|code=[[Main Page|<span style="font-size:11pt !important;">&#x7b;&#x7b;Wiki&#x7d;&#x7d;</span>]]|msg=This user is an '''intermediate''' writer in the MediaWiki language.}}
{{userbox|border=#999999|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#CCCCCC|code=[[Main Page|<span style="font-size:20pt !important;">&#x7b;&#x7b;Wiki&#x7d;&#x7d;</span>]]|msg=This user is an '''intermediate''' writer in the MediaWiki language.}}
{{userbox|border=#999999|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#CCCCCC|code=[[Main Page|<span style="font-size:50pt !important;">&#x7b;&#x7b;Wiki&#x7d;&#x7d;</span>]]|msg=This user is an '''intermediate''' writer in the MediaWiki language.}}
|}
::This is the same userbox with the font in 11, 20, and 50, respectively. Seem like it's working right. Perhaps you want to pick a smaller font size than 11? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:59, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I just realized the font size is actually 9pts. Oops. And, also, bolding the text...
{|
{{userbox|border=#999999|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#CCCCCC|code=<span style="font-size:12px;line-height:1.25em;">'''<nowiki>{{Wiki}}</nowiki>'''</span>|msg=This user is an '''intermediate''' writer in the MediaWiki language.}}
|}
:::That still doesn't look right. I think I'll mess around with this in the sandbox after taking a look at Wikipedia's userbox template and ours, and come back from eating some pizza. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 23:21, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Aside from the link on "intermediate" and the bold and link on "MediaWiki", it looks exactly the same to me. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:25, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah. I think I'll just leave it alone for now and go with what I have (though you can barely read it, since I wanted it to fit in 45 pixels!). I have another question. I would like to put a ParserFunction into my signature that'll get rid of the link to my talk page if someone's on my talk pages (well, what will become pages in 2010). Similar to your signature and how "Talk" is replaced by "Me". This is the code I'm trying:

<code>
<nowiki>
{{#ifexpr: {{BASEPAGENAME}}="SoiledBargains" and {{ns:User talk}}||[[User talk:Soiled Bargains|talk]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>}}
</nowiki>
</code>

I'm getting the error, <span style="color:red;">'''Expression error: Unrecognised word "soiled"'''</span>. And I'm not too sure if I'm using the right magic word for this. What advice do you have? {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 16:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
:That's cause you want <nowiki>{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|User talk:Soiled Bargains|[[User talk:Soiled Bargains|talk]]|}}</nowiki> {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
::But, that's the thing. I'd like for it to (if possible) effect any talk archives that I will have as well. Would it be best just to make it a <code><nowiki>{{#switch}}</nowiki></code> ParserFunction? {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 20:50, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Probably a series of ifeqs and ands in an ifexpr. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:53, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

== Help!!!!!!! ==

Can you help me with a custom sig? [[User:Espemon333|-Espe Pwnage]] 01:49, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:Sure. What do you want it to look like? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:09, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
::Like yours, only orange to white. With H-h-h-homsar on each sidefacing the words, if possible. Am I asking too much? [[User:Espemon333|-Espe Pwnage]] 02:42, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:::So... like this?
:::[[File:homsar evolution current.png|13px|Espe Pwnage!]][[User:Espemon333|'''<span style="color:#FFA500;">E</span><span style="color:#FCAB18;">s</span><span style="color:#F9B231;">p</span><span style="color:#F5B84A;">e</span><span style="color:#F2BF63;">m</span><span style="color:#EEC57C;">o</span><span style="color:#EBCC95;">n</span><span style="color:#E7D2AE;">3</span><span style="color:#E4D9C7;">3</span><span style="color:#E0E0E0;">3</span>''']][[File:homsar evolution current.png|13px|Espe Pwnage!]]
:::{{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:06, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
::::AIEE!!!!! YES!!!!!!! THANKS YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!! {{unsigned|Espemon333|15:55, 21 August 2009}}
:::::How do I use it? Like, use it when I use the wonkijog's? (~) -Espemon333
::::::In your preferences, for "signature" put <nowiki>{{User:Espemon333/sig}}</nowiki> and make sure "Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)" is checked. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:45, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, hey. Do you know how to get, like, sigs for diffrent holidays? {{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 01:13, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

==[[User:Starteen|Starteen]]==
Hello, I think the problem with customizing my sig is because I come from a wiki hosted by Wikia and it's a bit different there with the whole sig thing.--[[User:Starteen|Starteen]] 23:53, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:That's alright. Seems like you have it mostly working now. It looks good. See ya around the wiki. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:59, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

==A bit of help==

Hey, could you help me figure out the IRC channels? I've gotten as far as actually logging on but after that... i'm just... stuck. -{{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 00:39, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:Hey, me too! {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 01:10, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::To MMM, I see you joined the channel and left it a couple of times earlier... looks like you were there and no one was talking. Once you get to the channel, you can like... type stuff... and then hit enter... and then other people will see it and if they're around, they might type back... but if they don't type back immediately, don't get impatient and leave because then people will see it a few minutes later and think "wow, that guy was impatient". So yeah... that's all i can tell you unless you have a more specific question. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:13, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Invisicble ==

Why is it policy to make the sic's inviso?  Isn't it useful for the reader to be able to see 'em?  (Not disputing it, just asking in general) -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.122|132.183.151.122]] 19:13, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not sure it's POLICY, but it's what we generally do in transcripts and direct representations of content, as it's less intrusive if it's invisible in those places. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:15, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::Not meaning to come down one way or the other on this matter myself, but I do want to note there was a fairly lengthy debate on this very matter a few years ago in the [[HRWiki talk:Manual of Style#Sic|talk page to the Manual of Style]].  While it doesn't seem clear that any consensus was really arrived at, the wording in the [[HRWiki:Manual of Style#Spelling|Manual of Style]], as it currently stands, seems to suggest visibility (at least, it does recommend adding the "[''sic'']", and doesn't say anything about making it invisible).  Maybe this is a matter that ought to be reopened?  (Or not...) &mdash;[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 19:41, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Consensus or not, policy or not, invisible or not, my talk page isn't the place to have this discussion anyway. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:16, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Sorry.  Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but what do you suggest I should have done?  I'm not the one who started the discussion, but I thought it was worth pursuing... but I see your point that this wasn't the place for it.  Would it have been better had I brought the discussion to the [[Talk:dictionary|dictionary Talk page]], since that's presumably the article the original poster was referring to?  Or should I have just stayed out of it entirely?  Again, sorry if this is a stupid question--I'm not trying to be ironic or intentionally obtuse; I really don't have that much wiki editing experience, and I'm honestly wondering what the more appropriate course of action would have been here.&mdash;[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 20:25, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ah, i see you misunderstood. Asking me about the edit here on my talk page was fine. Continuing the discussion and bringing the extra background information and topic history is also fine. Suggesting that this discussion be revitalized is fine too. In fact, there was nothing that was not fine. All i meant was that if we do reopen the matter, this isn't the place for it. It should be done on a more public talk page, like standards or manual of style, either of which would be fine. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:30, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Picking up the old discussion at the link above is probably appropriate. Nothing's really changed since then to make the previous discussion obsolete. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Ah, OK, thanks; yeah, I did misunderstand.  And apparently I was unclear with what I wrote, since I didn't mean I thought the discussion would be reopened ''here''&mdash;I figured if it was going to be reopened, it would be on the Manual of Style talk page where it had been before, but perhaps I should have been more explicit about that.&mdash;[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 20:48, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Bandwith Issue? ==

Why is it that your user page always slows my computer down? {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 01:39, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
:Probably the super-awesome ascii art. That's a lot of information in a very small visual area... I know any time i scroll by it, it slows down for me as well. It's possible that your browser renders the entire page at once rather than just the section you're viewing, in which case, you probably have the whole page loaded, but it hasn't become visible yet, as the ascii-art takes a while to process given its complexity. Unless it's affecting other programs, don't worry too much about it. If it IS affecting other programs, please let me know, so i can remove it. (Cool though it may be, if it's causing people problems, then it shouldn't be there.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:58, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
::Well it only messes up Internet Explorer, so you're good! I just try to avoid the page so it donen't shut down my Internet. Ironically I can open [[User:Benol|Benol's page]] without a problem! Youknowwhotw0n32t2
:::His ascii art is black and white. Mine is varying color, and nearly each character has its own color codes. Far more data. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:00, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Ah. {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 00:14, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Wait a second... YOU LIE!!! I see no ASCII art! {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 23:19, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::[[User:DeFender1031#What I would look like as a video game|really?]] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:11, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, um, well, about that... imakickyouto! {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 00:23, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::::It doesn't work for me either. It only did once.... When i pull it up, I looks like its ''trying'' to go, like I get the first 3(?) lines of it, but on the right of it it looks like the quadratic formula exploded. There's wierd + signs just thrown in randomly. It also has a partialy obscured "w" at the end of it. The whole thing is there when I hit edit to check and see if you just took it down. I don't know if it's just my browser or what... <small>it's wierd...</small> {{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 02:04, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Well I can open it on another page with that on there... {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 23:48, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

==I meant to mispell, "Humestar"==

Humestar looks stupid. Now Humstar, THAT looks nice. [[User:TheHumstarRonner|TheHumstarRonner]] 01:53, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
:Agreed. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:57, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

== Happy Yom Huledet! ==
[[File:50cake.PNG|thumb|175px|I brought you a cake!]]
So, are you, like, 40 now? {{User:Elcool/sig}} 16:05, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
:<small>I'm gonna guess that Yom Huledet is Hebrew for "birthday"</small> Happy <s>T!</s> Birhtday! {{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 17:01, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::Happy Birfday Fendam'n. May you be a sysops in the near future.--{{User:Record307/sig}} 01:34, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Thanks, though by now i'll be accepting <span title="belated" style="color:blue">baleeted</span> birthday wishes, as my birthday actually coincides with halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:38, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
::::i apologize for being too busy on saturday to do any wiki editing. happy belated birthday sir {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Happy birthday, DeFender! Keep on tranglin'! {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 03:14, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

== And some what ==
[[File:pumpkin.PNG|thumb|Ding!]]
[http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Spoons&curid=39265&diff=684289&oldid=684287 Touche]. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.33|132.183.138.33]] 20:05, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:You get a good prize. Ding! {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 20:17, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

== Horrible Painting edits ==

Sorry, I shouldn't have gone about changing things without fully examining the situation. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.213|132.183.151.213]] 01:02, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
:Not a problem. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:05, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

== Sig color change ==
Do you mind changing the color of my sig to decemberween colors please?--{{User:Record307/sig}} 21:56, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

== Name Help ==

Can you tell me how to change my name? I want a sig, but, "TheHumstarRonner," makes it too long! Help ASAP! [[User:TheHumstarRonner|TheHumstarRonner]] 03:03, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:See [[HRWiki:Changing Username]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:44, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::In case this helps at all, it's acceptable to use a shorter version of his username in your sig without actually changing your username. As an example, you could use "HumstarRonner" without the "The", if that helps make it short enough. But I don't know what your design idea is, so I can't be sure what would help. Anyway, thought I'd let you know. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:53, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

== The word that shall not be named ==

Re: editing out on YouTube talk page.  I really don't see why you are getting so upset over the use of that word.  I know it's Yiddish in origin, but it's meaning is about the same as "yahoo" or "slob"&mdash; just a random guy, maybe a bit of a loser. It is not harsh enough to require editing out. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 21:00, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
:No, no it's not. Please come on to IRC and i will be glad to explain it. I'm not willing to explain it here. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:10, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
::But we don't censor bollocks, which is roughly equivalent to Brits as what I understand to be the earlier Yiddish origin.  And leaving it as stars makes it seem a lot worse than the poster intended. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.245|128.103.10.245]] 21:14, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
:::That's different. We don't censor SB no matter what he says. Now, can we please please PLEASE stop making a big deal out of this? Anyone who's curious can find me on IRC and discuss it OFF the family-friendly wiki. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:20, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
::::After doing further research, I still think you are over-reacting (since I'm going from the American English meaning, not the original Yiddish).  IRC is not an option, sorry.  But your compromise is enough. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 22:04, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

== "Not what it's called"? ==

I don't mind which version of the quote we use for that Homestar and The Cheat article, but I hope you know that the one I typed is the quote from the [[Original Book]], not a misquote of [[Strongest Man in the World]]. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 23:39, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
:When I made the edit, it didn't edit conflict me from when you DID, in fact, have not quite the right quote. That said, I kinda also forgot that the original book had that wording. Still, i kinda like the A, B quote better. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:54, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

== Thee and thuh ==

That's actually a [[Wiktionary:the|real rule]] - "thee" before vowel and "thuh" before consonant - but it's an extremely loose rule and I don't even think most people recognize it as a rule; they just say it (usually) out of habit. So while it's true, I wouldn't put the fact on a page even if SB were to break it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:54, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:Is there a rule about "a" being pronounced "ay" vs. "uh"? Clearly can't be the same rule, since it's "an" in that case. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:: None I'm aware of. Probably varies by accent or stress. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 11:18, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Maybe it will interest you ==

Here is the link: http://thedeserttabernacle.blogspot.com
Post it here because I dont know how to send you a private message.
Feel free to remove it from here.
:Thank you, this seems interesting. Gmar chatimah tovah. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:44, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

== Not sure where you are... ==

...but where I am, it's currently October 31. Happy birthday df {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 01:19, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
:Same thing, Happy Birfday Fendam'n. 24 years old and more. --{{User:Record307/sig}} 01:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== The Brother's Chap's. ==

DeFender-

I just wanted to let you know, IF you don't know this already, that I know why TBC has not made a main update since, like, April, for April Fool's.
Their father died, and said they would be taking a 6 month vacation. Someone told me that bit of information a few days ago. I do not know the website's name, nor do i know when that comment from TBC was updated on the other site. Just thought i'd let you know. Thanks!

-[[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]
:Er.. their father, [[Don and Harriet Chapman|Don Chapman]], died in 2006.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 16:28, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
:: That's what my friend told me, or maybe i misheard? but someone in their family died.... i don't know.... look it up, maybe you will be able to find out.... [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]
:::No thanks.  I'd invite you to do the same thing.. look it up and quote a source instead of spreading rumors next time.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:44, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== Holiday Signatures ==

Hey, I was wondering, could you please help me program my signature to turn Tagalog on April Fool's Day?  I tried copying and pasting code from your signature page to mine, but I don't really understand where my sigs would go.  The holiday signatures are located in the discussion for my signature page.  Thanks in advance. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 16:09, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

==noinclude tags==
On your signature page, there are a lot of "include this portion, but only during this part of the year" tags, but all but one of them are only one day long. I'm trying to figure out how to put some text on my user page that's only visible some of the time. is there a way to say "If today's date is between April 14 and June 6, include this part, otherwise leave it out"? and if so, how about a way to say, "between the fourth Saturday of March and the second Tuesday in August"? Can you help me at all? I mean, i get that it would be easier to just put it in and take it out whenever necessary, but since it'd be the same thing every year, it seems marginally unnecessary to add it in each time when i might be able to get it to do that automatically. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 06:52, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

==Stop reverting my CONSTRUCTIVE edits==

I was just looking over my edits, and I found that you reverted the page/omitted my edits 5 times! Do you have a grudge against me or something?
[[User:Garythesnail|Garythesnail]] 22:53, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
:Hi Garythesnail. Thanks for contributing to the Homestar Runner Wiki! Unfortunately, just because you are editing in good faith doesn't automatically mean that your edits are necessarily ''correct'', whether objectively or subjectively, and in the few cases I spot-checked the revert was properly applied. It's certainly nothing personal, so you don't need to worry about that. If you feel you can make a case for an edit of yours that was reverted, feel free to bring it up on the appropriate article talk page and we can discuss it. Keep on tranglin'! &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:50, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

== Doomy Tales of the Macabre ==

You mind if I ask where you heard about all of Strong Sad's stories in that toon coming true? I have trouble believing that so many characters would die just because Strong Sad wrote some gruesome poems, and I don't recall seeing anything in the toon's article or discussion page that says that. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 14:31, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
:To what are you referring? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:08, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
::I remember you once saying that [[Onion Bubs]] became a [[Made-Up Real Thing]] in "Doomy Tales of the Macabre" [{{p|l={{FULLURL:Made-up Real Things|diff=prev&oldid=683978}} link}}], but then I said, "Appearing in a fictional book hardly counts as evidence that you're real" [{{p|l={{FULLURL:Made-up Real Things|diff=prev&oldid=694448}} link}}], but then you said, "It's pretty much accepted that those events actually happened in a halloweeny sort of 'strong sad's book controls the universe' sort of way" [{{p|l={{FULLURL:Made-up Real Things|diff=prev&oldid=694450}} link}}]. I know this discussion occurred so long ago, and I should probably forget about it (especially since two sysops agreed with me about the poems not being real [{{p|l={{FULLURL:Made-up Real Things|diff=prev&oldid=694454}} link}}, [[Talk:Made-up Real Things#And how exactly is Strong Sad's book real?|link]], [[Talk:Made-up Real Things#Onion Bubs|link?]]]), but maybe the sight of Onion Bubs in the Featured Article box made me think of this. My inability to simply forget this might also have to do with the fact that before "Doomy Tales of the Macabre", I tried to edit Onion Bubs' entry down to the time he appeared in Strong Bad's imagination and the first time he appeared in h*r reality [{{p|l={{FULLURL:Made-up Real Things|diff=prev&oldid=683928}} link}}], but then you reverted it and said I did a "stupid" thing by shortening the entry like that without explicitly saying why I considered the rest of the appearances fluff.  You didn't even give a good reason for article listing all of Onion Bubs' post-becoming real appearances, you just said, "shortening it on principal is stupid" [{{p|l={{FULLURL:Made-up Real Things|diff=prev&oldid=683929}} link}}]. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 01:31, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
:::*I added links to all the points above. Links are proper context. Copying and pasting edit summaries (which Google doesn't index, by the way; I had to search the database directly) is not proper context.
:::*A sysop's word carries no more weight than a regular user's with regard to matters of content. The arguments, not the person, are what make the difference.
:::*Any substantive discussion on this subject should be on [[Talk:Made-up Real Things]].
:::*DeFender: You meant "principle".
:::[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:12, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
::::The discussion about Onion Bubs was resolved quite a long time ago, but I still feel kind of down that DeFender said I did something stupid even though I thought I had perfectly good reasons for doing it. (Granted, it would probably have helped if I said my reasons, but I thought people would get them either way.) {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 02:39, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
:::::Dot Com, yes, I did mean "principle". Thanks for catching that after TWO YEARS.
:::::BBG:
:::::#I wasn't calling you stupid. I was calling the principle of keeping entries on pages the same length, when there's more to be said about one and less to be said about another.
:::::#If you have reasons for an edit that are good reasons, don't give stupid ones and expect that "people will get them either way". They won't. Say what you mean.
:::::#I STILL am of the opinion that Doomy Tales was a real thing that happened that Halloween (people die and come back all the time in cartoons... Homestar didn't stay trapped for eternity, did he?) but I'm not going to harp on about it all this time later.
:::::#The most recent of those edits of mine you refer to was on the 17th of February, 2010. If after a year and eight months you're still "kinda down" about an edit that someone made on a wiki about a cartoon about dumb animal characters, I'm not certified to help you.
:::::{{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:54, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
::::::Well actually, I don't remember feeling down about it this year until I decided to re-check who made a certain edit about Stinkoman in that page, so I guess we wouldn't be having this discussion if I hadn't bothered to return to this site.  I don't even remember why I did so anymore.  I don't know if what I did still needs explaining now that it got brought up again, but I really didn't see any need to say anything else about Onion Bubs.  Strong Bad made up a story about an onion with Bubs' face drawn on it becoming the new owner of the Concession Stand, then eventually he found a real onion with Bubs' face buried in Marzipan's garden.  I thought it seemed like enough evidence that he became real. 
::::::I'd like to let you resume your usual Wiki business now, unless you still have something to say about how that ''doesn't'' sound like enough (but then we'll have to go to another talk page). {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 13:31, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
:::::::By the way, my reasons for regretting my return don't have as much to do with my stupid desire to question an old edit I otherwise forgot about as much as it does the fact I have more important things to do. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 14:10, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

== WINNA! ==

You get this box!
{|
{{userbox|border=#000|mainbkgd=#FC0|codebkgd=#F03|codecolor=#FC0|code=:D|msg=This user has solved a [[User:The cheergly one#Cheergly Challenge|Cheergly Challenge]].}}
|}

== SBCG4AP ==

Just out of curiosity, did you ever get around to playing it? If you say "yes", (raising right hand) I promise not to ask if it affected your opinion on moldy old debates, nor will I call your opinion stupid if it differs from the ones I had back in 2008. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 18:30, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
:But if you say "no", he will definitely call your opinion stupid, especially if it differs from the ones BBG had back in 2008. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.4.6|132.183.4.6]] 20:58, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
::Yep. Played all of em. To which debates are you referring? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:44, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
:::I can't think of any that still bother me. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 01:14, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

== Potential Article ==

None of the mods have read [[User:Bad Bad Guy/Awesome]] yet, so could I please ask your opinion on how to improve it? (It's not an archived version of the deleted article; I started it over from scratch.) I would especially like answers to the questions asked in the section, "As Part of An Original Word". {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 18:17, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
:IMO, combining gags that don't fit into miscellaneous would be a good idea. Otherwise, it looks like a decent article. I'd keep the uses of part of another word as is, since it's done quite a lot, it seems to be a running joke, despite having had prior, non-HR use. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:46, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

== Talkfront ==

See [[User talk:LikeLakers2#Signature policy]]. {{User:LikeLakers2/sig}} 12:36, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
:Also, if you are wondering why it says "Talkfront", its a reference to the way that [[Wikipedia:WP:Talkback|Wikipedia uses talk''back''s]]. {{User:LikeLakers2/sig}} 12:38, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

== I just wanted to say, thanks. ==

Even though my Shut Up page is probably going to get, A-digga...a-digga...a-digga-digga...a-digga...a-diggity... DIGGITY DIGGITY DIGGITY DIGGITY A-DELETEEEEEED!!!!!!  I just wanted to say thanks for standing up for it.  [[User:SaintOlaf|SaintOlaf]] 02:31, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

== Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns ==

I'm asking for clarification. You said, "There's a reason it's not in the main namespace." As I understand it, that reason is that it was voted out of the mainspace by consensus. However, that doesn't seem to equate to not linking to the page from the mainspace. I was against said consensus, and I just wanted to know why you are treating the fact that the page is no longer in the mainspace as equal to it not deserving to be linked from the mainspace. Could you clear that up please? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 03:57, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
:The fact that it's not in the main namespace means it's not an article the wiki considered up to par with that which we aim to document. As such, it was moved out of the knowledge base, and into user space as a nice compilation of supposition. Since it's not up to par, and not part of the actual knowledge base, it's not something that's appropriate to link to from the rest of the knowledge base. You should know, I didn't just remove them unilaterally, I had a bit of a discussion with a few other users on IRC (those who still actually go there.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

== Mouseover Text ==

Why wouldn't the mouseover of my edit on [[sugarbob]] work?? Does HRWiki even support this wiki markup?? [[User:BlockyCuzco|BlockyCuzco]] 17:29, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
: Long story short, it didn't work. Why it didn't work is irrelevant; anyone can look at the edit and see that it failed. For the record, you can use the "Show Preview" option to see what something will look like without saving the page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:19, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
::But I took the code from Wikipedia. Could Hrwiki NOT support mouseover htmls? I used the <nowiki><abbr></nowiki> code. [[User:BlockyCuzco|BlockyCuzco]] 15:34, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
:::It DOES support mouseover <span title="See? Mouseover text." style="color:green">Mouse over this.</span> it just doesn't support the abbr tag, which you were, incidentally, using incorrectly. Another thing, the way you were attempting to use mouseover text on [[sugarbob]] is not something we typically do on the wiki, so it's better left alone. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:38, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

== Recent edit to [[Blatant Lies]] ==

um... sorry for {{p|l={{FULLURL:Blatant Lies|diff=731239&oldid=731237}} talking back to you like that}}. I was trying to think of at what age do children have bedtimes well before 5 in the afternoon such that this wouldn't be a blatant lie, and I came up with "babies who are too young to have a set bedtime because they wake up and fall asleep as they please". I don't think what I said came across like I wanted it to. Just curious, why did you say it wasn't blatant? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:49, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

== Script Transcribing ==
Regarding the [[Twitter]] picture transcribing edit I made, it seems pretty obvious and logical to me. There is clearly something after the y, and it would either be a comma or a period. Since the next letter is lower case, it would have to be a comma (plus make sense). And the 'w' is also pretty obvious.

But I guess there is a very remote chance that I could be wrong, so I'll not raise protest to your revert.

We'll just have to wait and see. When next we meet, 'twill be on the doughnut field of battle! --[[Special:Contributions/174.100.79.184|174.100.79.184]] 13:42, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
:To be honest, looking at it closely, it does look like there should be another comma and i can imagine the rest of a w. It also feels like the next letter should be an "e". In fact, it's quite easy to imagine the whole sentence is intended to be "Ah, Compay, we meet again." However, none of that is clearly indicated in the picture, so it's best not to transcribe unless we're absolutely certain. Since the (thing we think is a) comma, the (thing we think is a) w, and the (thing I think is an) e are less present than they are absent, and each only has a sliver visible, we can't be absolutely certain, despite the fact that it makes sense. More to the point, we're only transcribing what's visible, and it makes sense to draw the (in fact, rather literal) line at the point where the majority of a letter is off the screen.
:As a side note, discussions such as these are better off on the talk page of the page in question, rather than on the talk page of a user who happened to make an edit. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:29, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

== Edits ==

Congratulations, DeFender on your 15,000th edit! {{User:Tenerence Love/sig}} 15:00, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
[[File:notlast.png|thumb|Enclosed]]
:*We're from the year two thousand twelve! (Uh, i think it says that in the edit summary) Well I didn't know that!
:*Happy 15,000<sup><u>th</u></sup> birthday, DeFender!
:*Woo hoo, DeFender, woo hoo. I've almost caught up with you, I only have 12,000 more edits to go.
:*Many combolations, Elizagerth. I hope you get all my... vuvuzelas.
:*Well done, my fellow wiki editor! By the time you read this telegrammaparcel, I'll be another year older. Therefore, I've enclosed this blue ribbon herein. I bid you good tidings, and may you continue to flummox those less fortunate than you!
:&mdash; {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 05:55, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

== Butt kick ==

http://www.orgsites.com/wi/p2pss/Dilbert_kicks.gif
Here you go - A hundred kicks in the butt. Yeah, I call that a buck. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 18:18, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
:That thing is still running well past 100, so I think you overpaid. I'll give you the change sometime. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:05, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

== Store Thank You Messages ==

The other half of the reason for reverting the edit on the Store TY talk page was because at first, i thought your rv/self 3&frac12; years ago meant it was okay to have the link there if it didn't actually link to the content. I have no way of knowing how long the YouTube video has been inaccessible. (btw, is there a way to tell that?) I didn't realize until later that you meant they don't play anymore on the website. OK, I agree that the content should be there. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 16:36, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
:Yeah. The only part that maybe I felt like the revert you made was correct is because it was a modification of someone else's talk post, but as it was to correct a useful dead link, i figured it was okay. It was actually a little amusing to me that I had actually looked at the edit, considered reverting, and didn't before you came along and reverted per something that I did a while back. I had actually checked the history to see why it hadn't been removed for just that reason. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:18, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

== Some kind of word like 'sic' ==

Ooh. I did not know what that tag meant, thanks! It's also weird that his talking would be transcribed that way instead of just saying something like {Strong Bad capitalizes the H) Actually, on second thought that makes things more complicated. 
As for the elusive ellipses, there's no explicit rule for whether you capitalize after one except that it has to form an independent clause (I don't think clauses can be interjections like What? Though sentences can be) or if it's not independent, it would involve a de facto new sentence caused by the first sentence trailing off. I don't think in the articles case that was a trail off, more like a pause. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 22:53, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Oh, and didya see my page recommendation? No one has commented on it and it's making me think it was a bad idea...
:The one in the sandbox? I saw it, didn't comment because I was busy, too busy to move the conversation. The main page talk might be a better place for that. I'd point out that "naked as a jay bird" is actually a common expression, so wouldn't fit. I suggest coming up with 3 or 4 examples unique to H*R if you want to establish enough content for a page. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:33, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:: That I shall, my good Fender! Iv'e never heard that expression before. Would they be recurring expressions, or just unique to HSR ones? {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 00:41, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:::They don't have to recur, just be unique to H*R. As for that expression, https://www.google.com/search?q=naked+as+a+jay+bird {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:48, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
::: Wow. I cannot keep up with the youth lingo these days. Another page I was looking for was one for the running gag about acne, but I couldn't find any, which is strange because there are tons of examples. Did I miss it or something? {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 01:05, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
::::A quick [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=Acne&fulltext=Search search] returns four mentions of acne. If I'm not mistaken, we generally say that for something like this, there need to be three mentions, so if you would like to create the page, feel free. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 01:41, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
::::: Hooray! What kind of running gag would this be? Word? Definetely not food. It's a lot more than four if you add references to zits and pimples to the list. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 01:50, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

== Little Tidbit ==
Did you know defenestration means to throw something out the window? {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 01:56, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
:I actually did. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:02, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

::Aha... Did you know that we recently confirmed the existence of the Higgs Boson? Well, according to the Standard Model that is. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 02:14, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
:::Yep, I keep reading about that. Chemistry and subatomic physics are not my strong suits, so while I'm aware of them discovering the Higgs Boson and that it has something to do with smashing Large Hadrons into each other at high speeds, I'm not sure what any of those things are, what it means that they exist, or whether the earth is about to be sucked into a black hole as a result, though my guess on that last one is no. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:24, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
:::: (Basically there are a few kinds of basic particles: quarks (up, down, top, bottom, strange, charm) which make protons and neutrons, charged and uncharged leptons (electrons and neutrinos respectively) and bosons (force carriers which account for electromagnetism and weak force)  which amount to the standard model- but none explain why matter has mass, that's what the Higgs does. The news actually just came out today, it's been around for a while that we discovered a new Higgs-like particle but we found it has a spin of zero- the Higgs defining trait. We're yet to find out whether this is one of many Higgs.) Crap! Ugh... Do you know my mother's maiden name? {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 02:36, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
:::::Hmm... that's very interesting... *pretends to understand a word of that* yes yes. Very interesting... Umm... Jones? Is it Jones? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:41, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
::::::Why yes, it is Jones! No, I didn't just edit this post. Yes, this ugh... computer's plugged in.  {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 02:47, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
::::::: ~_~..... {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 03:03, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
::::::::Awesome. I know everything there is to know in the world. Except apparently what a Higgs Boson is... and how chemicals work... and a bunch of other stuff. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:11, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
::::::::: Don't be so hard on yo'self. Everybody knows chemicals are really tiny gnomes that maintain equilibrium through the conservation of mass and energy. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 03:25, 15 March 2013 (UTC) Or did you miss your course in bogus chemistry 101?

== Saturday? ==

Oh, I deleted it because I thought it was a joke. Does he actually say "my life is a joke" when he dies? I haven't played that game in a while. AND I THOUGHT YOU WEREN'T EDITING ON SATURDAYS! Not that I'm complaining, I like the company. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 19:12, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
:Yes he does. And technically, it's from sundown friday until sundown saturday, and it's already after dark where I am. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:20, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
:: Ohh. I gotcha. I feel like I should know that (considering I went to Sunday School until I was thirteen). You must have a really hard time keeping off the wiki on those days in summer where the sun is up until like eleven o'clock. Or is it one of those sundown or 12 o'clock, whichever comes first kinda deals? {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 19:32, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
:::Nope, no trouble at all actually. I just relax and enjoy the fact that I'm not forced to answer phone calls or stare at a screen and can just relax. And nope, it's sundown or sundown, whichever comes first. (Technically it's actually from sundown friday until after dark on saturday, but whatever. See [[Wikipedia:Shabbat]] for more info.)  {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:36, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

== A Question ==
Should subtitles be completely grammatically correct (for things like capitalization, spacing, spelling, not pronunciation), in sbemails? (They are already being typed out on his computer) {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 21:48, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
:Hmm... I don't know offhand. We may have a policy for it but I'm not sure. My talk page may not be the best place to ask either. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:51, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
::Your probably right. I just asked you cause, you know, your the only one online and my only buddy on the "inside" (Wait, don't answer that.) Where to find a sysop at this hour...?{{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 22:02, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
:::I meant more that a better place to ask would be on the [[HRWiki talk:Subtitles|talk page]] for the subtitles project page. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:07, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
::::Ah, okay. Phewf... {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 22:10, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

== GAH ==
GAH... That's so embarrassing! CRUEL LADY IRONY!  {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 23:25, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
:And I accidentally sent this twice because I pressed go before finishing the summary. Okay, I've had enough with this iPad. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 23:35, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

== A series of incorrect, unencyclopedic, and uncited edits? ([[Marshmallow's Last Stand]]). ==
(Regarding [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Marshmallow%27s_Last_Stand&diff=737263&oldid=737260 this edit])

Look at the '''"FBI WARNING"''' on the cartoon, it clearly says:

<blockquote>'''FBI WARNING'''<br>
<br>
This cartoon is pretty old. It was the first&nbsp;&nbsp;cartoon<br>
we ever made. Homestar is not very funny and<br>
neither is Strong Bad. They are mere shadows of<br>
the men they have become. This cartoon has not<br>
been on the site for many months, but we have had<br>
several requests<!--No space in the text-->(from our Dad) to put it back. So <br>
here it is. Consider yourselves warned.</blockquote>

The website was launched on 1 January 2000, and the cartoon '''had''' to be created in 1999, before registering on 6 December 1999. 15:23, 23 Jun 2013, [[User talk:76.117.236.109|76.117.236.109]].
:But the wiki only documents items after they are first published online (items are usually published on the H*R site first; TBC also has an official YouTube channel for releasing toons and they can also publish official H*R DVDs).  Marshmallow's Last Stand wasn't originally published until after the H*R website creation in 2000.  The only time we can make note of items before their official publishing is if TBC reveals some behind-the-scenes info of a material's creation before it was officially published in a toon/game/whatever.  So if you found official sources from TBC saying they made the Marshmallow's Last Stand in 1999, then we could note such a thing in that toon's Trivia if it's not already there now.  ;) &mdash; [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 14:34, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

==Little Girl's YouTube Account==
How come it has nothing to do with H+R? Is it a violation? Vandalism? Can it make me be blocked from editing? 12:44, 30 Jun 2013, [[User talk:76.117.236.109|76.117.236.109]].
:No, it appears to have been a good faith edit, it just seems as though the youtube channel itself has nothing to do with H*R and having it listed on the wiki seems a little more invasive of TBC's family than we usually prefer to get. But it's been removed, so no harm done. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:14, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

== Maybe toonsold.html's swf file was toons.swf. ==

Because when you click http://www.homestarrunner.com/toons.swf , it goes to 404'd! and the Lava Lamp has its own swf file.
:I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to prove with this fact. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:06, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

== Alright, let me tell you a little somethin' somethin', Defendy. ==

You think you're all that. And trust me, you definitely are.

== How often do the upside down links appear most of the time? ==

The website was last updated 22-12-10, so they don't appear very often. The WebArchive links it back to October 2006, and people on the HRWiki keep saying the last time they saw the upside-down links was in July 2010. So it pretty much doesn't appear often.

== Source Code Of Suspicious [[Bronco Trolleys]] Game Over Screen. ==

<pre><TITLE>Play Again</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgcolor="#000000">
<!-- URL's used in the movie-->
<A HREF=broncotrolleys.html></A> <!-- text used in the movie-->
<!--homestar is still  very hungry! try to do better! GO! --><center><OBJECT classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
 codebase="http://active.macromedia.com/flash2/cabs/swflash.cab#version=4,0,0,0"
 ID=broncoend WIDTH=550 HEIGHT=400>
 <PARAM NAME=movie VALUE="broncoend.swf"> <PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high> <PARAM NAME=bgcolor VALUE=#FFFFFF> <EMBED src="broncoend.swf" quality=high bgcolor=#FFFFFF  WIDTH=550 HEIGHT=400 TYPE="application/x-shockwave-flash" PLUGINSPAGE="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"></EMBED>
</OBJECT></center>
</BODY></pre>

A reference to [http://web.archive.org/web/20010129043500/http://homestarrunner.com/broncoend.html this blank page.] [[Special:Contributions/68.199.48.245|68.199.48.245]] 14:02, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

== Halloween 2013 ==

Happy Carousel of Progress, DeFender! I mean, 27<sup><u>th</u></sup> birthday, DeFender. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 16:50, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
:Aw, thanks. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:23, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

== DWEEN ==

Happy Dethemberween, DeFender!!!!
--{{User:ToaJuaraevo01/sig1}} 19:37, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
:Umm... thanks. I'm Jewish. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:21, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

== Ummm, Remember me (SuperbowserX)? ==
From here http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Yes_yes.2C_need_some_assistance_with_getting_an_account

Any way you can help me...?

== Looking for some help from another user ==
I'm having trouble logging into my HR Email account, can you assist me please? Contact me @ subscriber0101@gmail.com, only looking for login help for an established user.
:DeFender can't really help you, but [[User:Tom|Tom]] would be the one to contact about issues involving login problems. You can try either Tom's talk page or the [[Talk:Main Page|Main Page talk]]. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 05:55, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
::The help im looking for can be done by any user. Any user reading this... email me please? thx

== My Page ==

Yes, i am an anon, but 2 things: 1. THOSE FACTS WERE REAL (EXCEPT FOR THE FUN USERBOXES). 2. I nuked your page because i thought you were being mean to me. please just give me a chance!

from 76.118.148.161

:Two things:
:# The policy on this wiki is that anon users are not allowed pages. It has nothing to do with whether there are facts. If you want a page, creating an account is simple enough.
:# It actually wasn't my page you "nuked", but thanks for the apology anyway.
:{{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:44, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

== Nebulon ==

At least one member of TBC ''did'' cover Daniel Johnston's song "Some Things Last a Long Time" under the name Mark Margarine (see http://www.thoraxcorp.com/mp3s/Mark%20Margarine/Covers%20Annex/, though they attribute it to Built to Spill instead), but you're probably right that it's too much of a stretch. --[[User:JohnnyLurg|JohnnyLurg]] 21:03, 2 December 2014 (UTC)