Talk:Interviews and Public Appearances

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Revision as of 15:30, 29 April 2005

Does each article really need a date? What about those with an unknown date? Also, if anyone knows of an interview not listed here, along with a webpage it's located at, feel free to add it! ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 01:35, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I think we should keep the dates. Also, every interview from Sightings needs to be added here. →FireBird

Interviews yes, but remember that this page is ONLY for conversations with The Brothers Chaps. If they don't have a part in it, it's just a sighting. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 01:52, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Name Of Page

Hmm... I didn't realize, there's already a catagory for 'Interviews and Public Appearances'. Whatever the name for this page, I feel it should be the same for the catagory too. So should we move this page to 'Interviews and Public Appearances'? I'm starting to like that name a bit more... ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 01:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I realized this also and was about to add it here. I think it should be "Interviews and Public Appearances". →FireBird

script

So, are we allowed to just... copy the transcript and paste it in (w/ formatting)? EDSMILDE

I could be wrong, but I don't see why not, as long as the source is External Link'D at the bottom. But BE SURE TO PROOFREAD IT FIRST, to ensure to 'block out' any profanity that may be there. We wouldn't want the Wiki to be tainted or profained... ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 05:04, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I did that for an interview, but I didn't know what to do about censoring, so I just used asterisks. EDSMILDE

Transcribing Interviews

I'm not sure it's such a good idea to just put transcriptions of all those interviews done for websites here. Isn't that stealing content? Aurora the Homestar Coder 04:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Alright, I've tentatively moved all the 'Links' Interviews here, haven't sorted them yet though, to which were origionally Radio, Website, ect. But anyways, they're there, from what I can tell the 'Inkhole' one is down, (hence the reason to get them doubled up here). So basically, we just copy and paste the dialouge onto the new pages for them, censor some words, add a few Fun Facts, tidbits of info revealed by the Interview, ect. I'll try and help with this if I ever get time off. And so once this is all up and running, we can delete those from the 'Links' page, and use it to somehow clean up the 'Sightings' page somewhat. How does everbody feel about this? Any comments/concerns/questions? I'd love to hear from you. Heck, I don't even know if I'm doing this right... (Coder, I'm not sure either, but we'd already done it with the 'Pulse Interview', ect. Plus isn't it fall under the same catagory of Mirroring a toon? We have those. Does anybody with Legal expertice have an answer for us?) ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 04:28, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It's not exactly the same territory as mirroring a toon. I think, by now, it's safe to assume that the Bros. Chaps are aware of mirroring of H*R content and they haven't had a problem with it yet that I've heard of. Other websites are untested. Some of these websites might want to keep the interviews as their own, exclusive content. For instance, a site that has ads would want you to visit their actual page rather than read the content here. Of course, we could contact the websites, or put them up anyway and take them down if someone complains. Aurora the Homestar Coder 05:22, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Here's you're legal advice (but note that I'm Canadian so things might vary in the states): You'll have to checkthe Terms of Use and the Privacy Policy, and any other Legal Notices on the site. 1.If anywhere on the site does it say that a exclusive content is their property and cannot be copied, than y must link to the actual site. 2.If it also says that they do not want anyone linking to their site (I've seen it happen), than you're out of luck. However, if the information is not exclusive, but every directly involved party has restriction 1 than you must link to one of their sites. If they all contain both restrictions 1&2, youare out of luck. But, if one of the parties DO NOT state restriction 1, than you may copy/mirror their content under fair use, as long as you are not profiting spicificly from that content. Also, if all the links pointing to the content you wish to mirror has be removed for a period of time (I believe it is 2 years but I may be wrong), than I believe you may be legally allowed to mirror the content no matter what the policies state. BUT I may be wrong on that, you'll have to research that yours to be sure. -- _{Posted by:} -erson ^Talk 12:33, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm happy with that, as long as the admins don't mind possibly dealing with some hassle (I'm just a sysop). We need Tom's blessing... ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 05:36, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Check for terms of use first. If they use a Creative Commons license or some other kind of share-alike or copyleft license, they we should be okay.

I'm pretty sure that even if a copyright isn't explicitly stated, the interviews and other content are property of the creator. Therefore, the works are protected by copyright pursuant to U.S. and international copyright laws. It would be legal, in my estimation, to download a copy for one's personal use, but I think publishing a copy on another website does not fall into "personal use". I think it is necessary that we send an email to their webmaster and/or the author asking for permission. (Just make sure you tell everyone on the talk page if send one, so they don't get half a dozen emails.)

However, for the time being, I believe we can rely on the fair use doctrine of United States copyright law [1] wherein as long as we take into consideration

1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
2. the nature of the copyrighted work;
3. the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

for our purposes (such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research), is not an infringement of copyright.

Anyway, read the whole fair use article and tell me what you think. Oh, and this FAQ might help as well. -- Tom 13:15, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

In other words, unless the site explicitly says that you can copy their content, you shouldn't.

Also, this is in response to something Thunderbird said up above (under "script"): I'm not in support of censoring interviews. I know we're hypervigilant on the forum when it comes to profanity, but I'd rather have the Wiki be accurate than kid-friendly. I'm open to others' opinions, here. — InterruptorJones 15:30, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)