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If you want to know what the administration has in mind for Iraq, here's a hint: It has less to do with weapons of mass destruction than with implementing an ambitious U.S. vision to redraw the map of the Middle East.
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What if we had quote boxes? Like at the top, or floating left/right Wikipedia-style... Ob'm know. I've added a lot to the tops of articles and sections (Oscar Wilde-style) and it might be nice to (a) standardize w/ a template (b) do something a little snazzier than blockquotes. Some rough style explorations made by editing notices:
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* Comments:
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* The current quotes have been added for comparison. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:57, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
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* If we turn this into a template, the image sizes are inconsistent: Matt's image is 60px, SB's is 24px, and SS's is 36px.  I thought {{t|qotwheads}} could be of use but that's for [[Quote of the Week Character Heads|a completely different context]].
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** Ah, the template I was looking for was {{t|head}} but that can't be used either.  That said, I've made both head images 35px to see what they look like. --[[User:Stux|Stux]]
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* I've added earlier samples for comparison. --[[User:Stux|Stux]]
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* Regardless of the format we choose, I think creating a template that allows consistent quote formatting would be a good thing(TM).
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** That said, there are several questions that should be answered:
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** How do we handle quotes with multiple speakers? {{t|canonquote}} has at least one example.
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** This leads to a design decision that I think needs to be done early on: do we include the name of the speaker (as with the current "transcript" style format) or not?  In the transcript style, the speaker name is ''not'' a template parameter, it must be added by hand, but that allows us to link to the speaker however we want.  Otherwise, the speaker would most likely be a template parameter, but that breaks down if we have multiple speakers.  
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** Do we have more examples of non-standard quotes that we can reference? --[[User:Stux|Stux]]
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The new map would be drawn with an eye to two main objectives: controlling the flow of oil and ensuring Israel's continued regional military superiority. The plan is, in its way, as ambitious as the 1916 Sykes-Picot agreement between the empires of Britain and France, which carved up the region at the fall of the Ottoman Empire. The neo-imperial vision, which can be ascertained from the writings of key administration figures and their co-visionaries in influential conservative think tanks, includes not only regime change in Iraq but control of Iraqi oil, a possible end to the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries and newly compliant governments in Syria and Iran -- either by force or internal rebellion.
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Would certainly be open to moving this to the HRWiki:Project space if it's something that other editors think is worth pursuing beyond my fiddlin' around. My thought process was to identify a very basic layout {{--}} i.e. what color/outline is the box, do we ''italicize'' or "enclose in quotes" or both or neither {{--}} and do basic problem solving to make sure it can work alongside a right-floating image thumb rather than solve for every case. I was mainly referencing how {{w|Template:Quote box}} on WP is used (i.e. for a phrase shared by only one speaker) to avoid getting caught up in how to deal with more complicated scenarios. As far as non-standard quote examples, some articles to look at include [[Batman]],  [[How do you type with boxing gloves on?]], and the UMFM snippets on most [[main character]] pages. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 20:45, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
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For the first step -- the end of Saddam Hussein -- Sept. 11 provided the rationale. But the seeds of regime change came far earlier. "Removing Saddam from power," according to a 1996 report from an Israeli think tank to then-incoming Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, was "an important Israeli strategic objective." Now this has become official U.S. policy, after several of the report's authors took up key strategic and advisory roles within the Bush administration. They include Richard Perle, now chair of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board; Douglas Feith, undersecretary of defense; and David Wurmser, special assistant in the State Department. In 1998, these men, joined by Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz (now the top two officials in the Pentagon), Elliott Abrams (a senior National Security Council director), John Bolton (undersecretary of State) and 21 others called for "a determined program to change the regime in Baghdad."
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After removing Hussein, U.S. forces are planning for an open-ended occupation of Iraq, according to senior administration officials who spoke to the New York Times. The invasion, said Iraqi dissident Kanan Makiya, would be "a historic opportunity that is as large as anything that has happened in the Middle East since the fall of the Ottoman Empire." Makiya spoke at an October "Post-Saddam Iraq" conference attended by Perle and sponsored by the American Enterprise Institute.
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=[[Shark-Tooth Bubs]]=
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[[Image:Shark-Tooth Bubs.png|thumb|"I'm going to go throw up at your house!"]]
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Any occupation would certainly include protecting petroleum installations. Control of the country's vast oil reserves, the second largest in the world and worth nearly $3 trillion at current prices, would be a huge strategic prize. Some analysts believe that additional production in Iraq could drive world prices down to as low as $10 a barrel and precipitate Iraq's departure from OPEC, possibly undermining the cartel. This, together with Russia's new willingness to become a major U.S. oil supplier, could establish a long-sought counterweight to Saudi Arabia, still the biggest influence by far on global oil prices. It would be consistent with the plan released by Vice President Dick Cheney's team in June, which underscored "energy security" as central to U.S. foreign policy. "The Gulf will be a primary focus of U.S. international energy policy," the report states.
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''From [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|"A Date with Homestar Runner" at New York University, 2005]]:''
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<blockquote>'''[[MATT CHAPMAN]]:''' We were getting these stuffed animals of The Cheat made. To show us that they were the right people for the job, this company in Hong Kong made some little six-inch plush dolls of our characters. Most of them they got pretty good! And then... Bubs they just completely misinterpreted.</blockquote>
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Some analysts prefer to downplay the drive to control Iraqi oil. "It is fashionable among anti-American circles ... to assume that U.S. foreign policy is driven by commercial considerations," said Patrick Clawson, an oil and policy analyst with the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, in an October talk. Rather, Clawson said, oil "has barely been on the administration's horizon in considering Iraq policy.... U.S. foreign policy is not driven by concern for promoting the interests of specific U.S. firms."
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'''Shark-Tooth Bubs''' is a plush doll prototype of [[Bubs]] that sharply deviates from his character design. Rather than two [[mismatched eyes]], one black and one blue with a white ring, he has two black eyes and a large protruding white-ringed horn; his teeth are pointed and shark-like rather than rectangular.
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Yet Clawson, whose institute enjoys close ties with the Bush administration, was more candid during a Capitol Hill forum on a post-Hussein Iraq in 1999: "U.S. oil companies would have an opportunity to make significant profits," he said. "We should not be embarrassed about the commercial advantages that would come from a re-integration of Iraq into the world economy. Iraq, post-Saddam, is highly likely to be interested in inviting international oil companies to invest in Iraq. This would be very useful for U.S. oil companies, which are well positioned to compete there, and very useful for the world's energy-security situation."
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Indeed, Iraqi National Congress leader Ahmad Chalabi, whose close ties with Perle, Wurmser, Rumsfeld and Cheney predate the current Bush administration, met recently with U.S. oil executives. Afterward, Chalabi, the would-be "Iraqi Karzai" and the hawks' long-standing choice to lead a post-Hussein Iraq, made it clear he would give preference to an American-led oil consortium. He also suggested that previous deals -- totaling tens of billions of dollars for Russia's Lukoil and France's TotalFinaElf -- could be voided.
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=Shark-Tooth Bubs=
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[[Image:Shark-Tooth Bubs.png|thumb|"I'm going to go throw up at your house!"]]
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{|
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| ''We were getting these stuffed animals of The Cheat made. To show us that they were the right people for the job, this company in Hong Kong made some little six-inch plush dolls of our characters. Most of them they got pretty good! Bubs they just completely misinterpreted.''
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|colspan=2 style="text-align:right" | {{--}} [[Matt Chapman]]<br><small>[[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|"A Date with Homestar Runner", New York University]], 2005</small>
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Next month, key Iraqi exiles will meet with oil executives at an English country retreat to discuss the future of Iraqi petroleum. The conference, sponsored by the Center for Global Energy Studies and chaired by Sheik Zaki Yamani, the former Saudi oil minister, will feature Maj. Gen. Wafiq Samarrai, the former head of Iraqi military intelligence, and former Iraqi Oil Minister Fadhil Chalabi, now executive director of the center.
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'''Shark-Tooth Bubs''' is a plush doll prototype of [[Bubs]] that sharply deviates from his character design. Rather than two [[mismatched eyes]], one black and one blue with a white ring, he has two black eyes and a large protruding white-ringed horn; his teeth are pointed and shark-like rather than rectangular.
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Fadhil Chalabi estimates that total oil reserves in Iraq could exceed Saudi Arabia's and that daily production one day could reach 10 million barrels, making it the world's largest producer. Hence, on the center's conference agenda is a discussion of Iraq as a "second Saudi Arabia," and the prospect of a world without OPEC. Oil executives and analysts heading to the country retreat will also be able to purchase the center's 800-page analysis of the prospects for exploration in Iraq. The cost: $52,500.
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The plush toy was created by a company in {{w|Hong Kong}}, during the pre-production of the [[Kick The Cheat]] dolls. To demonstrate their ability to adapt [[The Cheat]] to three dimensions, the toy company produced sample plush dolls of [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Marzipan]], and Bubs (the first two of which [[Puppet Character Variations#Not Quite Puppets|have also been shown]]). Though the first three were created largely on-model, the manufacturer "[[theme park#Commentary Transcript|misinterpreted pretty much everything]]" about Bubs's [[dumb animal characters|odd design]], resulting in the inclusion of [[fangs]] and a horn.
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But taking over Iraq and remaking the global oil market is not necessarily the endgame. The next steps, favored by hard-liners determined to elevate Israeli security above all other U.S. foreign policy goals, would be to destroy any remaining perceived threat to the Jewish state: namely, the regimes in Syria and Iran.
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"The War Won't End in Baghdad," wrote the American Enterprise Institute's Michael Ledeen in the Wall Street Journal. In 1985, as a consultant to the National Security Council and Oliver North, Ledeen helped broker the illegal arms-for-hostages deal with Iran by setting up meetings between weapons dealers and Israel. In the current war, he argues, "we must also topple terror states in Tehran and Damascus."
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= [[Easter egg]] =
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==Decompiled Flash Easter Eggs==
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''From [[Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007|a 2007 talk at the Georgia Tech library]]:''
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<blockquote>'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' People are poking around, they decompile our Flash files and look at stuff. So we've started adding a few things here and there for the nerds that do that stuff. [[Senorial Day|There's one]] where these two Homestars appear {{--}} like, it appears that there's two Homestars, you can barely see the edge of his feet on that side of the frame, that's in the actual cartoon. But then, to make it consistent in the universe, one of them has a mustache. But you only see it if you decompile the Flash thing and be like, ''"Oh, that's Homestar with a mustache."''</blockquote>
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In urging the expansion of the war on terror to Syria and Iran, Ledeen does not mention Israel. Yet Israel is a crucial strategic reason for the hard-line vision to "roll back" Syria and Iran -- and another reason why control of Iraq is seen as crucial. In 1998, Wurmser, now in the State Department, told the Jewish newspaper Forward that if Ahmad Chalabi were in power and extended a no-fly, no-drive zone in northern Iraq, it would provide the crucial piece for an anti-Syria, anti-Iran bloc. "It puts Scuds out of the range of Israel and provides the geographic beachhead between Turkey, Jordan and Israel," he said. "This should anchor the Middle East pro-Western coalition."
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=== Appearances ===
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[[Image:By strong bab age 5.PNG|thumb|Who actually made all those fence drawings...]]
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*All [[Halloween Teasers]] {{--}} The teasers feature messages hidden behind the [[silhouettes]] of the [[characters]], visible upon attempting to view the [[Halloween costumes]] with a Flash decompiler (presuming that they are obscured versions of the full image).
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*Email [[different town]] {{--}} Marzipan has a secondary hairdo when decompiled.
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*Email [[myths & legends]] {{--}} When the ancient fence drawings are viewed outside the border, the words "by strong bab age 5" can be found.
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Perle, in the same 1998 article, told Forward that a coalition of pro-Israeli groups was "at the forefront with the legislation with regard to Iran. One can only speculate what it might accomplish if it decided to focus its attention on Saddam Hussein." And Perle, Wurmser and Feith (now in the Pentagon), in their 1996 Israeli think tank report to Netanyahu, argued for abandoning efforts for a comprehensive peace in favor of a policy of "rolling back" Syria to protect Israel's interests.
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Now, however, Israel is given a lower profile by those who would argue for rollback. Rather, writes Ledeen, U.S. troops would be put at risk in order to "liberate all the peoples of the Middle East." And this, he argues, would be virtually pain-free: "If we come to Baghdad, Damascus and Tehran as liberators, we can expect overwhelming popular support."
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==Decompiled Flash Easter Eggs==
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<div class="boilerplate plainlinks" style="margin: 1em; padding: 1em; border: 1px solid #ccc; background: #F9F9F9;">People are poking around, they decompile our Flash files and look at stuff. So we've started adding a few things here and there for the nerds that do that stuff. [[Senorial Day|There's one]] where these two Homestars appear {{--}} like, it appears that there's two Homestars, you can barely see the edge of his feet on that side of the frame, that's in the actual cartoon. But then, to make it consistent in the universe, one of them has a mustache. But you only see it if you decompile the Flash thing and be like, "Oh, that's Homestar with a mustache."
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<div style="text-align:right">{{--}} [[Matt Chapman]] <small>([[Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007|"Homestar Runner comes to the GT Library!"]], 2007)</small></div>
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Perle concurs on Iraq -- "The Arab World ... will consider honor and dignity has been restored" -- as well as Iran: "It is the beginning of the end for the Iranian regime."
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=== Appearances ===
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[[Image:By strong bab age 5.PNG|thumb|Who actually made all those fence drawings...]]
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*All [[Halloween Teasers]] {{--}} The teasers feature messages hidden behind the [[silhouettes]] of the [[characters]], visible upon attempting to view the [[Halloween costumes]] with a Flash decompiler (presuming that they are obscured versions of the full image).  
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*Email [[different town]] {{--}} Marzipan has a secondary hairdo when decompiled.
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*Email [[myths & legends]] {{--}} When the ancient fence drawings are viewed outside the border, the words "by strong bab age 5" can be found.
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Now, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has joined the call against Tehran, arguing in a November interview with the Times of London that the U.S. should shift its focus to Iran "the day after" the Iraq war ends.
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The vast ambition of such changes to the Middle Eastern map would seem an inherent deterrent. But it is precisely this historical sweep, reminiscent of Sykes-Picot and the British arrival in Iraq in 1917, that many close to the administration seek. Publicly, Perle and Ledeen cling to the fantasy that American troops would be welcomed in Baghdad, Tehran and Damascus with garlands of flowers. Yet they are too smart to ignore the rage across the Arab and Muslim worlds that would surely erupt in the wake of war on multiple Middle Eastern fronts.
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=[[Abdi LaRue]]=
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[[Image:Compy Some Kinda Robot.PNG|thumb|Roll that beautiful email footage!]]
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''From a [[@StrongBadActual]] Tweet from [[@StrongBadActual Tweets 2020#1250876792174514176|16 April 2020]]:''
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<blockquote>
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Abdi is real! An early fan I actually had to ask to specifically email me because nobody knew I had an email address yet!
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</blockquote>
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In 2001, '''Abdi LaRue''' made [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] history as the first of hundreds to have an email personally answered by [[Strong Bad]]. Future [[Strong Bad Email]]s would make brief tribute to this unknown figure.
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Indeed, the foreshadowing is already with us: in Bali, in Moscow, in Yemen and on the streets of Amman. It's clear that even in Jordan, a close ally of the U.S., the anger at a U.S. attack on Iraq could be hard to contain.
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Indeed, the hard-liners in and around the administration seem to know in their hearts that the battle to carve up the Middle East would not be won without the blood of Americans and their allies. "One can only hope that we turn the region into a caldron, and faster, please," Ledeen preached to the choir at National Review Online last August. "That's our mission..."
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=Abdi LaRue=
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[[Image:Compy Some Kinda Robot.PNG|thumb|Roll that beautiful email footage!]]
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{| style="padding: 1em; background: Beige;"
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|style="padding-right: 10px;" |  [[File:qod 2 - strong bad.PNG|35px|Stro Bro]]
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| "Abdi is real! An early fan I actually had to ask to specifically email me because nobody knew I had an email address yet!"
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|colspan=2 style="text-align:right" | '''{{--}} [[Strong Bad]]''', {{postref|1250876792174514176|16|Apr|2020}}
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In 2001, '''Abdi LaRue''' made [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] history as the first of hundreds to have an email personally answered by [[Strong Bad]].  Future [[Strong Bad Email]]s would make brief tribute to this unknown figure.
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=Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe=
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:'''''Comment:''' this one uses {{t|canonquote}} under the hood!''
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{{clear}}
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[[Image:Strong Badia Bubs' Stand.PNG|thumb|Is Bubs' right? Or is it left?]]
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{{canonquote}}
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'''Inconsistencies''' large and small occur throughout the toons portraying the [[Homestar Runner universe]]. The [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work is primarily created independently by [[The Brothers Chaps]], without use of a dedicated style guide or {{w|Script supervisor|continuity supervisor}}, allowing for discrepancies to accumulate over [[Timeline of Homestar Runner|the 20-plus years of production]].
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Furthermore, Homestar Runner relies heavily on whimsical, surreal, and absurd humor. Much like comedic inspirations ''[[Looney Tunes]]'' or ''[[The Three Stooges]]'', toons are largely independent of one another; though some elements remain as constants, various minor facets of settings or characterization may be changed or ignored to better tell a joke or set a scene. Because Homestar Runner is not narrative-driven, complete consistency and total continuity are not goals and very minor inconsistencies are common between cartoons. The site's [[FAQ]] recommends that fans remember "[[TVTropes:Main/MST3KMantra|it's just a cartoon and you probably shouldn't worry about it]]."
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=[[Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe]]=
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:'''''Comment:''' these are earlier samples from the page's history''
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<blockquote>''There's no— there's no style guide, or continuity— we don't have a continuity person working on set.''
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:&mdash; [[Matt Chapman]], [[geddup noise]] commentary</blockquote>
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<blockquote>''We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us.''
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:&mdash; [[Strong Sad]], [[Page Load Error]]</blockquote>
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<blockquote>''There's no style guide. We don't have a continuity person working on set.''</blockquote>
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:{{--}} [[Matt Chapman]], [[geddup noise]] commentary
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<blockquote>''We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us.''</blockquote>
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:{{--}} [[Strong Sad]], [[Sbemail 200 Fakeout]]
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:'''''Comment:''' here's the flag day quote with two speakers and multiple lines (from {{t|canonquote}})''
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''From the [[flag day]] [[flag day#Commentary Transcript|commentary]]:'' <blockquote>'''[[MIKE CHAPMAN]]: '''We're not very consistent with our scale.<br/>'''[[MATT CHAPMAN]]:''' Yeah... We should make a style guide.<br/>'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' ''You'' can make a style guide.<br/>'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, ''you'' make one, more like.
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:'''''Comment:''' might as well go for broke and include all the other quotes from {{t|canonquote}})''
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''From the [[geddup noise]] [[geddup noise#Commentary Transcript|commentary]]:'' <blockquote>'''[[MATT CHAPMAN]]:''' There's no style guide. We don't have a continuity person working on set.</blockquote>
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''From a {{postref|ID=1200983950707101696|day=30|month=Nov|year=2019}}:'' <blockquote>'''[[STRONG BAD]]:''' If you’re watching/playing my stuff for the canon, you might be doing it wrong.</blockquote>
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''From [[Sbemail 200 Fakeout]]:'' <blockquote>'''[[STRONG SAD]]:''' We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us.</blockquote>
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''From the [[FAQ]]:'' <blockquote>'''Q:''' I noticed a mistake or inconsistency in one of your cartoons!! AHHH!<br/>'''A:''' It was either done on purpose or it's just a cartoon and you probably shouldn't worry about it.</blockquote>
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''From a {{postref|ID=1160753651637465088|day=11|month=Aug|year=2019}}:'' <blockquote>'''[[STRONG BAD]]:''' The more ye searcheth for canon in mine universe, the less canon ye shall findeth.</blockquote>
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=Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe=
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[[Image:Strong Badia Bubs' Stand.PNG|thumb|Is Bubs' right? Or is it left?]]
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{| style="padding: 1em; background: Ivory;"
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| "We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us."
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'''Inconsistencies''' large and small occur throughout the toons portraying the [[Homestar Runner universe]]. The [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work is primarily created independently by [[The Brothers Chaps]], without use of a dedicated style guide or {{w|Script supervisor|continuity supervisor}}, allowing for discrepancies to accumulate over [[Timeline of Homestar Runner|the 20-plus years of production]].
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Furthermore, Homestar Runner relies heavily on whimsical, surreal, and absurd humor. Much like comedic inspirations ''[[Looney Tunes]]'' or ''[[The Three Stooges]]'', toons are largely independent of one another; though some elements remain as constants, various minor facets of settings or characterization may be changed or ignored to better tell a joke or set a scene. Because Homestar Runner is not narrative-driven, complete consistency and total continuity are not goals and very minor inconsistencies are common between cartoons. The site's [[FAQ]] recommends that fans remember "[[TVTropes:Main/MST3KMantra|it's just a cartoon and you probably shouldn't worry about it]]."

Current revision as of 20:45, 1 July 2025

What if we had quote boxes? Like at the top, or floating left/right Wikipedia-style... Ob'm know. I've added a lot to the tops of articles and sections (Oscar Wilde-style) and it might be nice to (a) standardize w/ a template (b) do something a little snazzier than blockquotes. Some rough style explorations made by editing notices:

  • Comments:
  • The current quotes have been added for comparison. --Stux 19:57, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
  • If we turn this into a template, the image sizes are inconsistent: Matt's image is 60px, SB's is 24px, and SS's is 36px. I thought {{qotwheads}} could be of use but that's for a completely different context.
    • Ah, the template I was looking for was {{head}} but that can't be used either. That said, I've made both head images 35px to see what they look like. --Stux
  • I've added earlier samples for comparison. --Stux
  • Regardless of the format we choose, I think creating a template that allows consistent quote formatting would be a good thing(TM).
    • That said, there are several questions that should be answered:
    • How do we handle quotes with multiple speakers? {{canonquote}} has at least one example.
    • This leads to a design decision that I think needs to be done early on: do we include the name of the speaker (as with the current "transcript" style format) or not? In the transcript style, the speaker name is not a template parameter, it must be added by hand, but that allows us to link to the speaker however we want. Otherwise, the speaker would most likely be a template parameter, but that breaks down if we have multiple speakers.
    • Do we have more examples of non-standard quotes that we can reference? --Stux

Would certainly be open to moving this to the HRWiki:Project space if it's something that other editors think is worth pursuing beyond my fiddlin' around. My thought process was to identify a very basic layout — i.e. what color/outline is the box, do we italicize or "enclose in quotes" or both or neither — and do basic problem solving to make sure it can work alongside a right-floating image thumb rather than solve for every case. I was mainly referencing how Template:Quote box on WP is used (i.e. for a phrase shared by only one speaker) to avoid getting caught up in how to deal with more complicated scenarios. As far as non-standard quote examples, some articles to look at include Batman, How do you type with boxing gloves on?, and the UMFM snippets on most main character pages. -- Bleu Ninja 20:45, 1 July 2025 (UTC)


[edit] Shark-Tooth Bubs

"I'm going to go throw up at your house!"

From "A Date with Homestar Runner" at New York University, 2005:

MATT CHAPMAN: We were getting these stuffed animals of The Cheat made. To show us that they were the right people for the job, this company in Hong Kong made some little six-inch plush dolls of our characters. Most of them they got pretty good! And then... Bubs they just completely misinterpreted.

Shark-Tooth Bubs is a plush doll prototype of Bubs that sharply deviates from his character design. Rather than two mismatched eyes, one black and one blue with a white ring, he has two black eyes and a large protruding white-ringed horn; his teeth are pointed and shark-like rather than rectangular.

[edit] Shark-Tooth Bubs

"I'm going to go throw up at your house!"
MATT! We were getting these stuffed animals of The Cheat made. To show us that they were the right people for the job, this company in Hong Kong made some little six-inch plush dolls of our characters. Most of them they got pretty good! Bubs they just completely misinterpreted.
— Matt Chapman
"A Date with Homestar Runner", New York University, 2005

Shark-Tooth Bubs is a plush doll prototype of Bubs that sharply deviates from his character design. Rather than two mismatched eyes, one black and one blue with a white ring, he has two black eyes and a large protruding white-ringed horn; his teeth are pointed and shark-like rather than rectangular.

The plush toy was created by a company in Hong Kong, during the pre-production of the Kick The Cheat dolls. To demonstrate their ability to adapt The Cheat to three dimensions, the toy company produced sample plush dolls of Strong Bad, Homestar Runner, Marzipan, and Bubs (the first two of which have also been shown). Though the first three were created largely on-model, the manufacturer "misinterpreted pretty much everything" about Bubs's odd design, resulting in the inclusion of fangs and a horn.

[edit] Easter egg

[edit] Decompiled Flash Easter Eggs

From a 2007 talk at the Georgia Tech library:

MATT CHAPMAN: People are poking around, they decompile our Flash files and look at stuff. So we've started adding a few things here and there for the nerds that do that stuff. There's one where these two Homestars appear — like, it appears that there's two Homestars, you can barely see the edge of his feet on that side of the frame, that's in the actual cartoon. But then, to make it consistent in the universe, one of them has a mustache. But you only see it if you decompile the Flash thing and be like, "Oh, that's Homestar with a mustache."

[edit] Appearances

Who actually made all those fence drawings...
  • All Halloween Teasers — The teasers feature messages hidden behind the silhouettes of the characters, visible upon attempting to view the Halloween costumes with a Flash decompiler (presuming that they are obscured versions of the full image).
  • Email different town — Marzipan has a secondary hairdo when decompiled.
  • Email myths & legends — When the ancient fence drawings are viewed outside the border, the words "by strong bab age 5" can be found.

[edit] Decompiled Flash Easter Eggs

People are poking around, they decompile our Flash files and look at stuff. So we've started adding a few things here and there for the nerds that do that stuff. There's one where these two Homestars appear — like, it appears that there's two Homestars, you can barely see the edge of his feet on that side of the frame, that's in the actual cartoon. But then, to make it consistent in the universe, one of them has a mustache. But you only see it if you decompile the Flash thing and be like, "Oh, that's Homestar with a mustache."

[edit] Appearances

Who actually made all those fence drawings...
  • All Halloween Teasers — The teasers feature messages hidden behind the silhouettes of the characters, visible upon attempting to view the Halloween costumes with a Flash decompiler (presuming that they are obscured versions of the full image).
  • Email different town — Marzipan has a secondary hairdo when decompiled.
  • Email myths & legends — When the ancient fence drawings are viewed outside the border, the words "by strong bab age 5" can be found.

[edit] Abdi LaRue

Roll that beautiful email footage!

From a @StrongBadActual Tweet from 16 April 2020:

Abdi is real! An early fan I actually had to ask to specifically email me because nobody knew I had an email address yet!

In 2001, Abdi LaRue made Homestar Runner history as the first of hundreds to have an email personally answered by Strong Bad. Future Strong Bad Emails would make brief tribute to this unknown figure.

[edit] Abdi LaRue

Roll that beautiful email footage!
Stro Bro "Abdi is real! An early fan I actually had to ask to specifically email me because nobody knew I had an email address yet!"
— Strong Bad, @StrongBadActual tweet (16 Apr 2020)

In 2001, Abdi LaRue made Homestar Runner history as the first of hundreds to have an email personally answered by Strong Bad. Future Strong Bad Emails would make brief tribute to this unknown figure.

[edit] Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe

Comment: this one uses {{canonquote}} under the hood!
Is Bubs' right? Or is it left?
From the flag day commentary:
MIKE CHAPMAN: We're not very consistent with our scale.
MATT CHAPMAN: Yeah... We should make a style guide.
MIKE CHAPMAN: You can make a style guide.
MATT CHAPMAN: Yeah, you make one, more like.

Inconsistencies large and small occur throughout the toons portraying the Homestar Runner universe. The Homestar Runner body of work is primarily created independently by The Brothers Chaps, without use of a dedicated style guide or continuity supervisor, allowing for discrepancies to accumulate over the 20-plus years of production.

Furthermore, Homestar Runner relies heavily on whimsical, surreal, and absurd humor. Much like comedic inspirations Looney Tunes or The Three Stooges, toons are largely independent of one another; though some elements remain as constants, various minor facets of settings or characterization may be changed or ignored to better tell a joke or set a scene. Because Homestar Runner is not narrative-driven, complete consistency and total continuity are not goals and very minor inconsistencies are common between cartoons. The site's FAQ recommends that fans remember "it's just a cartoon and you probably shouldn't worry about it."

[edit] Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe

Comment: these are earlier samples from the page's history
There's no— there's no style guide, or continuity— we don't have a continuity person working on set.
— Matt Chapman, geddup noise commentary
We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us.
— Strong Sad, Page Load Error
There's no style guide. We don't have a continuity person working on set.
— Matt Chapman, geddup noise commentary
We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us.
— Strong Sad, Sbemail 200 Fakeout
Comment: here's the flag day quote with two speakers and multiple lines (from {{canonquote}})
From the flag day commentary:
MIKE CHAPMAN: We're not very consistent with our scale.
MATT CHAPMAN: Yeah... We should make a style guide.
MIKE CHAPMAN: You can make a style guide.
MATT CHAPMAN: Yeah, you make one, more like.
Comment: might as well go for broke and include all the other quotes from {{canonquote}})
From the geddup noise commentary:
MATT CHAPMAN: There's no style guide. We don't have a continuity person working on set.
From a @StrongBadActual tweet (30 Nov 2019):
STRONG BAD: If you’re watching/playing my stuff for the canon, you might be doing it wrong.
From Sbemail 200 Fakeout:
STRONG SAD: We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us.
From the FAQ:
Q: I noticed a mistake or inconsistency in one of your cartoons!! AHHH!
A: It was either done on purpose or it's just a cartoon and you probably shouldn't worry about it.
From a @StrongBadActual tweet (11 Aug 2019):
STRONG BAD: The more ye searcheth for canon in mine universe, the less canon ye shall findeth.

[edit] Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe

Is Bubs' right? Or is it left?
I probably could... "We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us."
— Strong Sad, Sbemail 200 Fakeout (2008)

Inconsistencies large and small occur throughout the toons portraying the Homestar Runner universe. The Homestar Runner body of work is primarily created independently by The Brothers Chaps, without use of a dedicated style guide or continuity supervisor, allowing for discrepancies to accumulate over the 20-plus years of production.

Furthermore, Homestar Runner relies heavily on whimsical, surreal, and absurd humor. Much like comedic inspirations Looney Tunes or The Three Stooges, toons are largely independent of one another; though some elements remain as constants, various minor facets of settings or characterization may be changed or ignored to better tell a joke or set a scene. Because Homestar Runner is not narrative-driven, complete consistency and total continuity are not goals and very minor inconsistencies are common between cartoons. The site's FAQ recommends that fans remember "it's just a cartoon and you probably shouldn't worry about it."

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