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=== Good Ol' Uncle Sam ===
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*I disagree; I don't think Inside and Real-World References should be combined.
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*The origin and date of Uncle Sam have no bearing on this cartoon, and are the sort of additional information that should stay in Wikipedia for those who really want to know more about Uncle Sam. It would be rather insular, though, to assume that he needs no explanation whatsoever, so I propose the revision below.
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Revision as of 15:35, 20 October 2005

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Good Ol' Uncle Sam

Proposed revision:

Uncle Sam is a national personification of the United States dating from the War of 1812. Homestar Runner was first seen wearing a Uncle Sam hat on Main Page 12.

Arguments for:

  • We shouldn't have two entries for the same thing when we could combine them.
  • Main Page 12 really isn't referenced other than the fact that Homestar appears in roughly the same getup. Therefore, that part should be a secondary part of this item, not one of its own.

Arguments against:

  • I disagree; I don't think Inside and Real-World References should be combined.
  • As far as Main Page 12 is concerned, the hat doesn't equal Uncle Sam. Just as this symbol for the NY Yankees (there at the right) is not a reference to Uncle Sam, but rather patriotism.

Additional comments:

  • Obviously, if this is accepted, the item currently in the Inside References will be removed.
  • The origin and date of Uncle Sam have no bearing on this cartoon, and are the sort of additional information that should stay in Wikipedia for those who really want to know more about Uncle Sam. It would be rather insular, though, to assume that he needs no explanation whatsoever, so I propose the revision below.
  • Just because Homestar wears an American-ized hat doesn't mean he's actually dressed as Uncle Sam.


Votes to accept: Votes to decline:
  1. DorianGray
  2. B
  3. Heimstern Läufer
  4. — Lapper (talk)
  5. Sam Goldfish
  1. — It's dot com
  2. Ciberdude444
  3. Lil Stiny
  4. Joshua
  5. Alcnolien
  6. I R F
  7. Trey56
  8. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif
  9. — Elcool (talk)(contribs)

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A Glowy Box!

The "Glowy Box" Strong Mad refers to may be a reference to the box that Strong Bad makes dance and prance in haircut

From: Strong Bad is a Bad Guy
Posted on: 19:14, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

  • May explain why it's "Personal" to Strong Mad

Arguments against:

  • May be.
  • Probably just a coincidence.
  • Strong Mad's box shaped. That's probably why he likes them so much. They aren't nessecarily referencing each other - it could just be a personality trait.
  • Strong Mad is just weird. He likes to say weird things.

Additional comments:

  • I'm sorta half confident on this one, but I thought I'd put it out there and see what people think.
  • I think trying to find any definitive meaning in what Strong Mad is saying here is like trying to determine what Homsar is saying with a rope in his mouth.
  • This could possibly become a running gag page, what with the numerous combolations of Strong Mad and boxes/cubes. How about something like Strong Mad's Boxes?
    • I dunno. I could be wrong, but they just don't seem that funny. Maybe an inside joke?
      • There are lots of other instances on the site of cardboard boxes roughly 2 feet cubic. I haven't figured out which ones interrelate, but it might be worth looking into.
        • You're right. I could swear that we've got a page on boxes...
          • We do have a page on the Box Computer, the cardboard box, and the Soapbox, to name a few.
            • If you notice, two of those three boxes relate to Strong Mad. Thatw was SM's computer box and also he wanted that box to dance.
              • I was thinking particularly of the Strongbadia Riverquest Adventure and R.Q. 2. There's the BOX FOR THROW GAME in there too, although I was thinking more of cardboard boxes.
  • Maybe we should mention Strong Mad's attraction to boxes on his character page?
    • I'd agree with that. He certainly has an affinity to boxes.
  • Strong Mad's pretty much a beefy Homsar. Except he's not white. And he has no neck. Or little derby hat. And he has arms. But, yeah, you get my point.
  • I agree with making it a Running Gag of some sort. There are many boxes relating to SM.--Martin925 21:13, 18 October 2005 (UTC)


Votes to accept: Votes to decline:
  1. JesseLangham
  2. DorianGray
  3. KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r)
  4. Kiwi
  5. Martin925
  1. — Elcool (talk)(contribs)
  2. Mycroft Holmes
  3. Joshua
  4. — Lapper (talk)
  5. Jay (Gobble)
  6. JestyTalk
  7. —GWR_Wikisig.gifGWR 2004 TalkContribs
  8. Lil Stiny
  9. — talk Bubsty edits
  10. AbdiViklas
  11. Heimstern Läufer
  12. Ju Ju Master
  13. Homestramy20|Talk
  14. minibaseball.png Bkmlb(talk to me·stuff I did)
  15. Invisible Robot Fish
  16. Spell4yr
  17. – The Chort
  18. B
  19. The Flying Weasel
  20. The Pardack
  21. videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif
  22. Hannah Banana

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Revelation?

This is the first time that Homestar's armlessness has been mentioned to him. Strong Bad has talked about it before, but only when not near Homestar.

From: Strong Bad is a Bad Guy
Posted on: 20:30, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

  • Homestar seems unaware that he has no arms in this cartoon.
  • Strong Bad said that he "didn't have the heart to tell" Homestar about his arms, implying that Homestar didn't know before.

Arguments against:

  • In fingers, it was implied that Homestar knows about it.
  • Who cares when it was first mentioned to him. What's at stake is whether this reveals the true status of Homestar's arms, which it doesn't really (see comment below).

Additional comments:

  • Just to clarify, the previous time was in The Interview, where Strong Bad referred to Homestar as a "no-armed whitey".
  • This is a running gag. It has been brought up before, and I think that, even taking this toon into account, TBC are keeping this ambiguous. After all, it was Strong Mad who said "You don't have arms," and what does he know.
    • We could revise this to mention it as the continuation of a running gag.
      • In the bird, Homestar flips the bird to Strong Bad, who seems to be able to see it.
        • You need to set up a page that documents the running gag. I suggest Invisible Arms, since it affects other characters besides Homestar. Also, it ties in with How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?.
          • I'm surprised that we don't have an Invisible Arms page yet, as it is one of the more common running gags.
            • Well, we do now. Somebody go to town with it.
  • Are we sure Strong Bad's lack of heart was about Homestar's lack of arms and not something else, like the dumbness of Homestar's tattoo ideas?
    • Yes.
  • Strong Bad didn't get a very good response when he told Homestar about his pants, or his lack thereof. So he probably didn't want to be the one to tell him.


Votes to accept: Votes to decline:
  1. — It's dot com
  2. DorianGray
  3. KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r)
  4. Mycroft Holmes
  5. - Camalex(talk)
  6. JestyTalk

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