Editing HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/General Discussion

==General Discussion==
:Say whatever right here. First question, does everybody like the name, or should we move it? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:20, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Nice name, but it should be moved to HRWiki:Featured Article Selection. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 03:23, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::Good point. Done. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:57, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::Could somebody who is skilled at creating archives archive the Featured Article decisions that are currently housed on the talk page, in blocks of probably ten weeks at a time, in a similar fashion to [[HRWiki:Da Basement|Da Basement]]? Any takers? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:02, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::::I don't have skill at it per se, but I'll take a crack at it.  Should the first one just be weeks 26-29, then a new page for 30-39, or 26-39 for just the first one, then 10 in each after that? {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 17:55, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::::I think 5 to begin with, and blocks of the 30's, 40's, ect afterwords. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:58, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Sounds good. I'll get going on that now. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 17:58, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

===Themed Articles===

:How does everybody feel about themed articles, such as [[Halloween Costumes]] during Halloween week, [[Decemberween]] during christmas week, things like that? I think it's a good idea, but I figured I'd throw it out there as a conversation starter. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:48, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::I like that idea. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 11:34, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::Cool. So do I. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:28, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

===Featured Toons===

:How does everybody feel about featuring toons? The occasional interesting one, chuck 'em in all the time, or none at all, ever? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:28, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::I think it would be okay to throw in a toon or sbemail every now and then. Looking into the distant future, we don't want to run out of non-toon articles then be forced to focus solely on toons. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:38, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:::I don't see why we couldn't rerun featured articles after a long period of time (not for a year at least... I'm sure we have 52 feature-able articles). {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 04:51, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::Yea, I wouldn't mind featuring the [[Floppy Disk Container]] again. Maybe if it's ever significantly featured in some way. Oh well, I'll keep my eyes open... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:32, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

===Featured Template===

Made this [[Template:featuredarticle|featured article template]]. This is my first template as well as using borders. I hope it came out alright and not too big. The [[:Image:featured.png|image]] is from a [[Store|T-shirt]] I saw, most of the code from other templates and the text is mostly from Wikipedia. I already used it on [[Talk:Homestar Runner (body of work)|the first featured article]]. So? What do you think? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:01, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Hey, sticking it on the Talk pages doesn't look half bad. Good work. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:29, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::That's neat. I like it on the talk page. Quick question about the wording: ''"...which means it has been identified as one of the best articles..."'' Is this right? I thought that some of the articles were ones we wanted to draw attention to so they could be improved, and others were just things we kinda thought were cool. Somebody clarify this for me. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:39, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::P.S. Does anyone else think the template is a little large, perhaps a tad overpowering? Or is it just me? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

::::The great thing about a template, is that they're all easily edited. And yea, I didn't want to say anything before, but it probably would be best if it were limited to two or three lines. The wording could do with some work too. But the basic principle of a template, it's not too too bad. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:51, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::It's a bit large because of the picture. the text, like I wrote before, is from the same template in wikipedia. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Featured] And thanks. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 07:09, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::Hmmmm... Perhaps we could find a picture of the approximate same size as Wikipedia's choice... I'll look into it tomorrow, unless someone else beats me to it. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:38, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Better yet, there's alot of graphic artists floating around this Wiki, I wonder if we could enlist somebody to create an applicible symbol of an excellent HRWiki article? Any suggestions/offers, anyone? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:51, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::::I resized the image to 100 pixels height, which made the template considerably smaller. The picture, is still jaggy (like before) - I think we need a better image. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:33, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)


===Themed Features: Looking Ahead===

I was just thinking about which articles to feature at the end of october, and came up with an idea. What about Featuring [[Halloween Costumes]] on October 24th - 30th, and then [[The Brothers Chaps]] on October 31st to November 6th (Matt's birthday). Discussion's looking a bit slow on this page, so I figured I'd just throw something discussable out there. If anybody has any other Themed features for September or October, post 'em here. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 11:28, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:These are both great ideas, and I like that you're looking ahead. If you'll recall, when I first set up the featured articles I set up like eight weeks worth of them in advance. I'd love to see us keep these at least two or three weeks into the future just to stay on top of them. &mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 01:58, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::I know, it has kind of been running close to the wire. Especially now that the hype has died down, and not everybody wants a say in what article is featured, we may as well just get a few months ahead and throw out a big block of them once every month or two (and the occasional emergency last minute switch for themed features, such as [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] right after [[lady...ing]]). Thanks for giving us a nudge in the right direction. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:09, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

===Kicking it up a Notch: Daily Features===

I've been finding that all too often, I'm afraid to do something, decide to feature this or that, and am left with saying 'If there are no objections'. More often then not, there aren't. To that end, how do people feel about starting January 2006, having a Featured Article of the Day. Everyday. For as long as it's able to work out. I don't mind taking on the majority of the workload, provided I can just start moving ahead at a faster pace. I'm thinking of Starting with the four Popups, and moving on to the [[Strong Bad Emails]], running through all of them. To prevent it from becoming boring and monotonous however, I'm also planning to work in related articles intermittenly, for instance [[Compy 386]] right around invisibility, [[Kicking The Cheat]] around [[little animal]], ect. Many of the articles will be smaller than we're used to for a feature, but all in all it'll infuse it with more variety, interest and fun at a faster pace then what we're currently at. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:00, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Well, um, good luck, I suppose. With [[HRFWiki:Fanstuff of the Week|Fanstuff of the Week]] and my [[HRFWiki:Other Character Email Tampo|Tampo Emails]] (shameless advertising) I know how hard it is to update something weekly. Much less daily. If you think you can do it, I won't stop you. But I probably won't help you much either. - '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]''''' 01:05, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::I'm not planning on updating daily. I'm probably going to do four or five at a time. Plus it's not even writing, mostly just copying and re-formatting. I think it's within my relm of abilities. And if it doesn't work out, we can always go back to weekly. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:36, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Ooooookay. I would like to see a SBEmail bonanza ,I suppose... (Although now that I think of it, doing a sbemail a day would take over 4 months. Yikes!) - '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]''''' 01:38, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I remember a day not too long ago when you told people to keep you from starting any new projects.  This isn't exactly a ''new'' project, but it makes it a lot more time consuming.  Just a reminder. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 01:37, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::True, but that's just during now until January. That's when I finish my nightschool course. After that I'll have considerably more free time. Don't worry, I'm not over-extending myself. Plus if I work on an article here and there over the next two months, by the time January hits, hopefully I'll already be close to a month ahead. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:15, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

===Daily Featured Blocks (On Occasion)===

I've been thinking (Dangerous, I know), and was wondering if Article of the week could easily be changed to article of the day on occasion, to run through a large block of featured articles, mainly in the case of some time in the future going through all SBEmails day by day for about 150 days or so, or something along those lines. Obviously 150 weeks would be far more tedious and annoying. It could also be used for things like each cheat commando character, all the TGS's, things like that. I'm not saying right away or anything either, if it ever happened it would probably be in the far future, once FA is a bit more settled in. I'm just wondering if it's feasable, and if anybody else likes the idea. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:54, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I think that's a good idea if we did that occasionally. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:35, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::Great, good to hear somebody else likes my idea. Just a few more allies, and we might even be able to get some kinda plan set up! Anybody else into our idea? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:00, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::I'm all for it.  Sounds like there's a lot of promise in this idea as far as featuring the things that may not be large enough for a week long run but are still good pages.  As soon as we get the stuff currently in the pipeline out we should go for it! {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 23:38, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::Good, I'm glad to see it's all sounding pretty positive. But before we consider moving ahead with this at all, I'd like to hear either [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]]'s or [[User:Tom|Tom]]'s opinion on it, since they're the ones that came up with the whole system in the first place. But provided it's feasable and endorsed by the head honchos, I think we just might be able to see this happen shortly... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 08:17, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::::The only reason we did weekly features is because I didn't want to select an article for every day of the year. If you guys are up for maintaining it I think it would be great to do an article of the day. I like the idea of switching back and forth between weekly and daily articles. It's a nice compromise between the laid-back weeklies and the hard to maintain dailies. Good idea, Thunderbird. &mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 01:56, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::::Great! So how exactly do we change the formatting? Is it pretty much just make a page like this:<br>
<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki><br>
Or something along those lines? If somebody could provide some basis of how the scheduling works, then we can get to work on scheduling some weekly blocks, such as all the [[Characters]], [[Teen Girl Squad]]s, or [[Strong Bad Email]]s later this year. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:33, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::<s>I think the best way to do it would to link to <nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTH}}]]</nowiki>, then create all the articles a few weeks in advance. This way the main page doesn't need editing until the daily featured article cycle has finished. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 18:41, 23 September 2005 (BST)</s>
:Thunderbird's example link would work fine. Also, the page <nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50]]</nowiki> would need to redirect to the day 1 page, at least until a sysop changes the main page link to the following: <code><nowiki>
{{HRWiki:Featured article for {{CURRENTYEAR}}, week {{CURRENTWEEK}}</nowiki><span style="color:darkred">, day <nowiki>{{</nowiki>CURRENTDOW}}</span>}}</code>. Likewise, switching back to a weeklong featured article will need a similar temporary redirect. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:50, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Okay. So we just...

2) Change the main page link to: 

<code><nowiki>
{{HRWiki:Featured article for {{CURRENTYEAR}}, week {{CURRENTWEEK}}</nowiki><span style="color:darkred">, day <nowiki>{{</nowiki>CURRENTDOW}}</span>}}</code>

1) Create pages like:

<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 2]]</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 3]]</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 4]]</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 5]]</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 6]]</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 7]]</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 51, day 1]]</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 51, day 2]]</nowiki><br>

Is that format right? And why 'CURRENTDOW' instead of 'CURRENTDAY'? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:56, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:CURRENTDOW is the current day of the week. CURRENTDAY is the current day of the month. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 19:00, 23 September 2005 (BST)

::Gotcha. Then it'd be simplist to just add a day of the week sub section then. Okay, great! Now we just need some suggestions of what blocks to feature, and when. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:07, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::Just to reiterate, you would also create a redirect like so: 
::::<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50]]</nowiki> &rarr; <nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki>
:::so that when the week rolls over, there is something for it to roll over to until a sysop can change the main page to the daily link. You would also need a similar style redirect to move back from the daily features to the weekly features. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:29, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::Also, wouldn't the order of your steps up there be the other way around? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

Sorry, I created final order below. One question though, can you switch back mid-week? Can you have seperate articles for week 50, day 4, and for just week 50? Then for day five, just redirect to week 50, and voila, switch back? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:09, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

===Final Order Of Steps:===

<blockquote>'''1)''' Create pages like:<br>
<br>
<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 2]]</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 3]]</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 4]]</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 5]]</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 6]]</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 7]]</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 51, day 1]]</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 51, day 2]]</nowiki><br>
<br>
'''2)''' Create a redirect to begin with, such as <nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50]] redirecting to [[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki><br>
<br>
once it's switched over...<br>
<br>
'''3)''' Change the main page text 'This Week's Featured Article' to 'Today's Featured Article'.<br>
<br>
'''4)''' Change the main page link to: <br>
<br>
<code><nowiki>{{HRWiki:Featured article for {{CURRENTYEAR}}, week {{CURRENTWEEK}}</nowiki><span style="color:darkred">, day <nowiki>{{</nowiki>CURRENTDOW}}</span>}}</code><br>
<br>
once it's ready to be finished...<br>
<br>
'''5)''' Create a redirect to end with, such as <nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 51, day 3]] redirecting to [[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 51]]</nowiki><br>
<br>
'''6)''' Change the main page link back to:<br>
<br>
<code><nowiki>{{HRWiki:Featured article for {{CURRENTYEAR}}, week {{CURRENTWEEK}}}}</nowiki></code></blockquote><br>

That's it, right? Six easy steps. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:09, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:That's right. We could switch back in the middle of a week if we wanted to. Whatever we switch to would either get just the remaining days in the week or the remaining days plus all the days of the next week, depending on how we want to set it up on a case-by-case basis. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:16, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Excellent, thanks guys! Feel free to suggest blocks of daily features at the usual Featured Article Discussion Section (at the bottom). I really want to run through all the SBEmails in a row, perhaps I'll bring it up for January 1st. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:49, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)