Editing HRWiki talk:Featured Article Nominations

==Criteria==

I was just looking on Wikipedia, and thought it might be interesting to show their criteria for nominating an article. I'm not saying this has to be exactly followed or anything, but I think in any case it's a good thing to think about when selecting an article for nomination:

*Exemplify HRWiki's very '''best work'''.  Represent what HRWiki offers that is unique on the Internet.
:''I think that's the same here.''
* Be '''Comprehensive''': Covers the topic in its entirety; does not omit any major facts or details. 
:''Again, I think this is good criteria''
* Be '''Accurate''': Supports facts with specifics and external citations. Includes '''references''', arranged in a <nowiki>==References==</nowiki> section and enhanced by the appropriate use of inline citations.
:''Not as important, but is something good to think about.''
* Be '''Stable''': Should be mostly static, and not change rapidly from day to day.
:''Since most of our articles are in constant flux, I don't think this is strictly true. But if an article has a definite finishing point, it might be best to wait until that is reached.''
* Be '''Well-written''': Compelling, even "brilliant" prose&mdash;the former name for featured articles.
:''Again, quite true.''
*Be '''uncontroversial''' in its neutrality and factual accuracy, and not have ongoing edit wars.
:''That means no featuring 'STUFF', heh heh. But seriously, again quite applicible.''
*Comply with all of our '''standards'''.
:''We have a good team who ensure all our pages are standardized. But still something to think about.''
*Have '''images''' where appropriate, with good captions.  However, an article does not ''have to'' have a picture to be featured.
:''Most of our articles have very good pictures, I don't think it's something to worry about too much.''
*Have an '''appropriate length'''. It should stay tightly-focused on the main topic without going into unnecessary detail. However, excellent short articles are also accepted.
:''This is an important one for our wiki. Since ours are week long articles, long ones are probably a better choice.''

:''And of course, criteria limited to our wiki, generally it's also good to pick less than obvious articles, which means probably not specific toons, specifically, as a general rule.''

This isn't Wikipedia, so there are some instances where these rules can be bent. But all in all, it's good to keep in mind. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:42, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

==Early Chaos==

So how do these work? Do people just nominate, and [[User:JoeyDay|our proprietor]] decides? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:18, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

:I was wondering that myself, mostly because I don't understand why stuff like the Floppy Disk page is getting overlooked in favor of shorter articles with very little content. (My picks include: Strong Bad Email, Strong Bad Email Statistics, Stinkoman Enemies, Floppy Disk Container, Halloween Costumes, Original Book) <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 04:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

::Yea, I'm kinda miffed about [[Schenectady Crispies]]. If the page is gonna be around for a whole week, I'd think it'd be big enough to browse for some time. I don't want to see a whole 'nother STUFF, but I think discussion between a few folks, maybe just the [[Special:Listadmins|sysops]] or something would be kinda cool. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:47, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

:::I think Schenectady Crispies is a strange pick too, and I have to question [[Homeschool Winner]] as the third featured article. It's something that only a few "hardcore" fans have interest in, it's not even on the official site (except for the Dancin' Bubs background). <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 04:56, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

::::Personally, I think that it would be better to nominate articles that are lesser known, i.e. smaller characters, different locations or objects.  Personally I would think that nominating Strong Bad emails wouldnt be quite as useful, as they already see a lot of pageage.  But thats just me -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:07, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

:::::Lesser known, yes. But I think large lesser known pages would be most useful, I<small>n</small> M<small>y</small> H<small>umble</small> O<small>pinion</small>. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:39, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

::::::I think the point is just for the article to be a really good, thorough one[[User:Ed smildE|<font face="tw cen mt">E<small>D</small>S<small>MILDE</small></font>]]
== I'm listening ==

Sorry for kinda doing my own thing here. I'm usually very hip to the wiki way, but I guess I got a bit carried away with this thing. Know that I meant no harm. I figured I would just do my own thing until somebody else stepped in and suggested a better way. You guys have got my undivided attention. I've pulled out the featured pages that have been frowned upon, and am open to suggestions on a new nomination process. I don't want this to turn into another [[STUFF]], but I do feel we should have some organized way to discuss articles that have been nominated and come to a consensus about whether they should really be featured or not. &mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 14:37, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks Joey, I didn't mean to sound mutinous or anything before, I really was just curious. Anyways, I think I already said it before, but I figure that as long as they're up for a week, they should be fairly large pages, to give users a week's worth of browsing/exploring and whatnot. Lesser-known pages are also good, since it may be harder for users to find them (not specific toons or emails, more 'supplementary information', e.g. [[Floppy Disk Container]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters]], ect). But that's my general opinion. I do appreciate your giving '[[Schenectady Crispies]]' the boot (among others), that coulda been one looooong week... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:17, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Pages like [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters]] would be hard to put in a summary for the Main Page, though. Though I don't think we should really limit it to just us, but a [[Special:Listadmins|sysop]] decission would probably be best, to keep it from being another STUFF. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 20:10, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::Actually, since each article is just a synopsis about the article, I'm sure we would be able to summarize the page information for such pages as [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters]] and [[Floppy Disk Container]] into an article about them. I could probably figure something out, if such pages are chosen. But yea, we should probably figure out some kind of system for choosing them. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::::With only six days remaining with which to choose a new feature article, I think we need to decide some kind of meathod of deciding on it... Right? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:55, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::::I brought this up over on [[HRWiki:Da Basement|Da Basement]] and Firebird suggested, essentially, that the sysops make nominations (based on the nomination page, I suppose) and then they get decided on. I guess this could happen on Da Basement... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:55, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Next Week ==

Okay, it's Friday night. What's going to be the featured article for next week? --[[User:ColorPrinter|ColorPrinter]] 00:00, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Hello? Is anyone reading this? How about TGS? --[[User:ColorPrinter|ColorPrinter]] 00:45, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Week 28 ==

I noticed that there is not featured article for week 28 and time is running out. I will most likely pick [[Teen Girl Squad]] if there are no objections and no one else steps in with another candidate. After all, it's better than having a big empty space on the left-hand side of the main page! {{User:The Paper/sig}} 21:03, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:The featured article choices have moved to [[HRWiki:Da Basement|Da Basement]], at least for the time being. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:59, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Top Disclaimer ==

If we leave already selected nominations as just struck out on the list, do we need to suggest at the top that users check the Featured Articles Page as well? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:14, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Chosen Articles? ==

How are articles chosen to be on the main page?
Is it when someone clicks on an article on that page, it get's a vote, or does a worker of HRwiki choose?

[[User:Cheddarlebbon|Cheddarlebbon]]

:Thunderbird Choose most of the articles, but also take advise from the ones listed here and from other users. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:45, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

:: I was just looking for this myself and I found it, so I thought I should post it here -- not necessarily in reply to E.L. Cool, but simply so others can find it if they see this. Featured articles are discussed and selected at [[HRWiki:Featured article selection]]. You can also use the [[HRWiki:FAS]] shortcut to get there. &mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:13, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

== Emails ==

I'm seeing a lot of emails build up at the bottom. I really don't think an email (other than [[flashback]]) should be a featured article. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 01:48, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
:[[alternate universe]] might be nice, too. And others have pivotal parts. Emails are a key element of the site, and at least a ''few'' should be featured someday. None have as of yet, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
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 This isn't Wikipedia, so there are some instances where these rules can be bent. But all in all, it's good to keep in mind. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:42, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)
-==Alternate Nominations==
-I'm new to hrwiki, and the articles that I find most interesting are the analysis of character dialogue (such as Homsar's speech patterns) and the running word gags. I nominated a few that I find myself returning to frequently after viewing HR toons. The character pages are not nearly as thorough, interesting, or educational. I would never have known what a "word salad" or "portmanteaus" without these pages.
-:Hello! Thanks for your noms, and thanks for reading. We'll certainly consider them. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:40, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 ==Early Chaos==
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 I'm seeing a lot of emails build up at the bottom. I really don't think an email (other than [[flashback]]) should be a featured article. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 01:48, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
 :[[alternate universe]] might be nice, too. And others have pivotal parts. Emails are a key element of the site, and at least a ''few'' should be featured someday. None have as of yet, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
-::Maybe An Email That Created A Main/Minor Character Should Be There Too (aka [[homsar]], etc). -{{User:Homsar7/sig}}
-== Nominating ==
-I think [[Stinkoman 20X6]] should be a featured article. I mean, seriously! It's the biggest progect that The Brothers Chaps ever made! --[[User:Homestar Cheetah|Homestar Cheetah]]
-:I think we're waiting 'til level 10 is released. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
-:I like that idea, except we should probably wait until it's finished.  [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6#Is Level 10 Ever Coming?|It shouldn't be too long.]] - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
-== What's Her Face ==
-I think [[What's Her Face]] is an interesting article, or any of the [[Teen Girl Squad|TGS Main Characters]].  And, in order to save space, I'll also push for [[Taranchula]].  I think their page has gotten big enough to be featured.
-== What do we use this page for? ==
-I've been thinking lately about how I never actually use this page as part of the process of selecting featured articles. I brought this up briefly on IRC, and found most other people I talked to didn't use it either. So I'm curious: are people using this page? And if so, what for? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:47, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
-:It's entirely possible that some people might use this to do some initial searching for articles which they might not otherwise know are there. If I were more involved in the [[HRWiki:FAS|FAS]] process, I probably would use this page. I'm not in favor of deleting or severing all ties, but it seems that a restructuring in order. This page seems to have reached its maximum potential for good articles, but we seem to be lacking good, healthy participation in FAS. Perhaps we should make FAS more visible to the average user or candid reader who would like to have a say. My proposal is this: replace the '''[[HRWiki:Featured article nominations|Nominate this article]]''' link on the main page with a '''[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|Help select a future featured article]]''' link. We'll make FAS a more active and open place. And then we will hang up a link to this page at the top of FAS for anybody who is brainstorming for articles. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:15, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
-::Yes, let's do that. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
-:::That doesn't look very good on the Main Page, as some of the words then go on to another line. Plus, this makes the second link crammed on the right side of the box. Is there a shorter thing we can say? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:13, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
-::::I shortened it to '''[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|Help select featured articles]]'''. I never noticed it was a problem because I have a widescreen monitor. Does it work now? &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:19, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
-:::::Still, the word '''articles''' is on another line on my computer. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:22, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
-::::::Okay, taking 'featured' out should do the trick. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:36, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
-== Early nomination ==
-I know its only Tuesday, but I really like [[retirement]]...how bout that? {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 22:19, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
-:Hi, RC, if you want to get involved in choosing featured articles, have a look at [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:35, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
-::Thanks for the tip! {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:39, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
-== Strong Bad's Mask vs Homestar's Pants. ==
-How about an article paralleling Homestar's tight pants (or lack there of) as to wether he wears a mask that he never removes, or if that's his face & the strings in back are in fact braids.
-I'd also like to see "Strong Bad offending Marzipan" as both a parallel to "Homestar Offending Marzipan" & as part of the debate on whether he has a crush on her or hates her as much as or more than Homestar.--[[User:67.161.122.193|67.161.122.193]] 05:12, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
-== Whatsit? ==
-All that [[Whatsit]] does is state the apparences. (Like the apparences section doesn't do a good enough job.) I think it should be taken off the featured article nomination list. {{User:DrPepper42/sig}} 00:47, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
-:Nah, we never really remove noms from this page. I don't even use it, really, except occasionally to view a list of articles people have named as possibilities. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:37, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
-::Also, I disagree with your assessment of the article. Some amount of summary of the list of appearances is desirable, as it's one of the only ways to avoid an [[HRW:OA|"often appears"]]-style article. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:46, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
-:::Im just saying, the only other thing is this sentence: Whatsit is a name for the commodity that [[The Poopsmith]] shovels, also known as You-Know-What and [[crap]].
-::::Do you want a complete explanation of what fecal matter is? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:43, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
-:::::No, I'm saying we should say what we should maybe include something else, or move to Pile of Whatsit and add more info for it to be ready to be featured. {{User:DrPepper42/sig}} 14:48, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
-== [[Biz Cas Fri]] ==
-I know we don't really remove articles from this, but I think we should make an exception in this case. It's a disambig page! {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 19:02, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
-== Point ==
-What exactly is the point of this page? We could easily put every page on the Wiki on this page. And also, the list is outdated (none of the entries after Week 3 have been bolded). [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] 07:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
-:I'm not thoroughly convinced we need this page anymore, but it certainly isn't hurting anything to keep it around. It does have the potential for people to use it to get ideas for articles to suggest at FAS (not that I myself use it that way). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:43, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
-::I disagree.  At the very least, this page can be used to keep track of what has been featured before (and I have used it before making a suggestion to verify that my suggestion hasn't already been featured).  So, as long as it's kept up regularly I think it's very much of use.  --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC)