Editing Talk:An Important Rap Song

==MP3==
Someone post a mp3 of the song LOL i laughed so hard

:Here you go: [http://www.homestarrunner.com/songs/Too%20Many%20Knives.mp3] {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

== Song lyrics ==

Since this is a song, I think the transcript should show the lyrics in lyric style, like they've been done on other pages.  How is that done, exactly?  And how do we handle the visuals separately from the lyrics?  (Or do we?) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:38, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

:Hmm... I'd say do the lyrics like:

Poo-ha ha ha ha

Poo ha ha ha ha ha ha

Or however it goes, and then

Poo-ha ha ha ha

''{Cut to Bluebry's house}''

Poo ha ha ha ha ha ha

You know, something like that maybe. But, there's probably some standard I'm overlooking. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 23:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
: For most songs, we write them like this:

Well you're a rich kid, living in the suburbs <br/>
and there's not a whole lot to do.<br/>
You're strolling to the kitchen and what do you find? <br/>
A bunch of knives cold staring at you.

: And the visuals are separate. That's really how this one should have been transcribed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::Which I've just done... I agree, it does read a lot easier that way. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:28, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

== Humans! Ahhh! ==

Should we mention that this is the first time the Brothers Chaps animated a human? This is the first time we get to see Mike's skill as a real life artist! (ha ha ha.) --[[User:Strong Rose|~Rose]] 23:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

:We see his real life skillz all the time! Anyway, don't forget [[best thing]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:56, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

:Hmm... well... It sorta counts. But that was supposed to be done in a different style, like some other guy drew it. And this is more realistic. (again, ha ha ha.)--[[User:Strong Rose|~Rose]] 00:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Don't forget [[for kids]].  That one was fairly realistic. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 00:23, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think this is the first. Remember the guy from the Senor Cardgage commercials? The middle aged guy? And remember the girl from the PBTC segment in Strong Badathon? [[User:Spyrox6|Spyrox6]] 00:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I think this is worth a mention, in that it's the first time a musician-type guy has been animated (outside of TGS). All the other guys have been live-action: Limozeen, Tarantula... I will admit that Limozeen was animated in [[best thing]], but that was the point and the "real" Limozeen was still live action. I'm pretty sure that Crack is the first in this category to have his "real" version animated. - [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 01:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

:But how do you know this ''was'' the "real" version of Crack Stuntman?  Maybe it was an animated rap video.  : ) [[User:65.26.154.192|65.26.154.192]] 01:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

::Technically, this is the first time TBC animated an ''actual'' human. best thing had cartoons in it. This is fairly realistic. And I'm pretty sure the real Crack Stuntman stood up in this episode. [[User:Strong Devon|Strong Devon]] 01:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Regardless of whatever sort of convoluted way you guys make this a breakthrough, I don't think it deserves a mention on the page. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 01:57, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I think it does. It really is the first time a human has been animated. Oh well, whatever -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 02:06, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::Excluding Limozeen, Balding Man, the Videlectrix Guy, Don Knotts, Teen Girl Squad, or Kid Speedy... some more than others. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:15, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::When I first saw it, I thought it was notable, but now I agree with Joshua.  It's like an internal TTATOT.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 03:59, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:Can we call it the first realistic 3-D animation of a human? TGS had a 3D episode, but it was stick figure 3D. {{User:Csours/sig}} 11:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::In what way are either 3D? - [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 11:21, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:::The animation on Crack Stuntman isn't really much more realistic than Limozeen-in-space... the only remotely 3D part of Crack's animation was him nodding his head in the "LOUD BASS" bit, and that was done with the same techniques they've done for years to make Strong Bad's head turn from side to side... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::::TBC do humans pretty often. Crack Stuntman was probably meant to be a cartoon, like Limozeen and TGS. Not really notable. --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 12:13, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:I think it's the first human that isn't based on one of the Chaps, and isn't the guy from the Senor Mortgage commercial. I always forget to sign my things. --[[User:CertifiedArborist|CertifiedArborist]] 15:31, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::Not that this is likely to settle anything, but it may be notable for the discussion that Crack Stuntman is animated in the Cheat Commandos style- fixed thickness lines, grainy bitmap backgrounds, etc. So it's almost certain that Crack was intended to be a cartoon (assuming that Cheat Commandos is a cartoon in the HR universe) rather than a "real" person like the central Homestar crew. --[[User:Fiasco|Fiasco]] 17:26, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:the assumption that crack stuntman is a 'real' human is made because he claims to be the 'voice' of  gunshaver. fictional cartoons are usually voiced by 'real' people. <!--are we really debating this?--> {{User:Csours/sig}} 21:23, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::<!--do we have something better to debate?-->Well, of course Crack is a 'real' person. I'm just saying the depiction of him in the video is meant to be a toon. Consider that in the '80s, Cheat Commandos' biggest inspiration, G.I. Joe, featured professional wrestler Sgt. Slaughter as a cartoon character and as a live action host. And Crack Stuntman looks like Duke. And... and... well, I'm not sure. But I can taste the parallel. Can you taste the parallel? --[[User:Fiasco|Fiasco]] 18:52, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I am convinced. I withdraw my arguments and categorize this as "it sounded good in my head." I do still think this is the "real" Crack Stuntman, by which I mean the only version we'll ever see. - [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 11:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
:Wait, the Videlectrix Guy, Don Knotts, Teen Girl Squad and Kid Speedy are humans? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 05:51, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
::I'd like to take this moment to say that Strong Mad (even though he has no neck) is about as "human" as Crack [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 04:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
:HOLY CRAP!! I relized I was wrong a long time ago, and was going to post it, but I kept forgetting. I didn't relize it would be such a big topic! Sorry about all this. --[[User:Strong Rose|~Rose]] 00:05, 31 March 2007 (UTC), the no0b who started it all. :(

== Just Wonderin' ==

About what time did this toon come out, eastern time? [[User:Homestar-winner|Homestar-winner]] 00:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:I watched it shortly after 6:30 PM, and the first edits here are about then. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:58, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

== First mention ==
I noticed something. If the "Poo-ha-he-ha-he" is supposed to be Crack Stuntman laughing to the word "Poo", then wouldn't that be the first mention of the word "Poo" (aside from the Poopsmith)? All I remember is everyone either saying "Crap" or "Whatzit". [[User:Spyrox6|Spyrox6]] 01:04, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:"Poo-ha-hoo-ha-hoo" (or whatever) is just him imitating the sound of drums, not laughing at the word poo.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 04:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::Im laughing at it. I think its making fun of fake white rappers that try too hard, getting the words wrong. {{User:Csours/sig}} 11:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I thought he was imitating record-scratching. This is implied by the shot of Crack Stuntman's arm scratching a record, seen just before "Holler for a dollar". Although you weren't the only one who was laughing. :) {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:08, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Beats ==

Doesn't this sound sort of like that rap (I think it's Puff Daddy or P.Diddy or whatever) Losing My Head? Or is it just me?--[[User:CertifiedArborist|CertifiedArborist]] 01:55, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::Heh, I can't imagine any two raps sounding the same :P -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 02:06, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd say that the first section, the "2 Many Knives" bit is cribbed from "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash - compare "Kids don't play wit' 2 many knives" with "Don't push me 'cause I'm close to the edge"

==Break==

The way he says "break" sounds like a specific Cheat Commandos cartoon. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 02:10, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

:Well, it could be in [[Let us give TANKS!]], when Gunhaver says "Thanksgiving break."  I'm sure this is a complete and utter coincidence, though.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 12:11, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

::It would be fair enough, really, since Gunhaver is voiced by Crack Stuntman.. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 17:03, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

== Cheap Commandos? ==

When Crack is introducing himself, it also sounds like he says "Cheap" (Or Chief) Commandos.
Yes/No/Maybe? --[[User:Jrgilby|Jrgilby]] 02:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:Maybe. It's hard to tell. I'll wait for confirmation from someone on that one. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 19:56, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:I hear "cheap" but only once I had seen this, definitely not "chief" though [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 22:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

==Email Styles==
I really think the line "Kidz don't play wit' 2 many knives, c'mon, c'mon" sounds almost identical to Strong Bad's "Can you see that I've got e-mail styles, c'mon, c'mon" from [[senior prom]].  Somebody agree with me on this one!--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 04:21, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:I was just thinking that, but it's probably a coincidence. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 09:08, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::I agree. It does sound very similar. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

== Clout? ==

Whassa clout mean? D'AAAAAAAAMM A CODFISH!
:http://m-w.com/dictionary/clout &ndash; see definition 4 in particular. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

:It means influence. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 17:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

:Unrelated to homestar, had I not read this article, I would have missed a government test question dealing with Russia's "clout" on the world stage.  So thanks.

==Arthur==

The animation of the pictures on the dollar bills is similar to the intro of Arthur. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwzuQIgIQqk] (at 0:13). [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

==King of the Hill==

Crack Stuntman resembles the characters from King of the Hill. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Both King of the Hill and Crack Stuntman are drawn in "realistic style" with black lines and no shading, but that's the only thing they share.  Also, there's no thematic reason why TBC would make a King of the Hill reference in a kid's public service announcement parody.  Not a reference. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 19:27, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

not really...  KOTH characters are all ugly, while Crack is arguably sexy. ''This message was left unsigned by [[71.104.226.62]]''


Holy crap... Who said that? {{User:Visorbot 386/sig}}

[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:King_of_the_Hill_alley.jpg]] [[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:AnImportantRapSong.PNG]]  I'm not a registered user, so I can't post screenshots.  Just compare these two.  Not the same at all. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 19:49, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
==Blubry==

If I remember right, I think that a user worked on this transcript. -{{User:Viklas/sig}} 11:13, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

== Not exactly a politician ==

Rather than get into revision war, I figured I'd just take this straight here. One Fun Fact caught my attention on this article:

*This toon is a parody of various [[Wikipedia:Public service announcement|public service announcements]] in which prominent media figures (celebrities, politicians, etc.) attempt to give advice to children in the form of catchy songs, rap, etc. Common examples include campaigns against smoking and drug use.

If anything I'd say that this is ''much'' more along the lines of the public service announcements at the end of Saturday morning cartoon shows (such as G.I. Joe and Captain Planet) than political announcements. I think the fact is terribly misleading as it stands now. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 20:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:I agree, because it showed the very end of a Cheat Commandos episode, followed by the rap. Come to think of it, it did kinda remind me of those Captain Planet-type announcements.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 20:49, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::I agree with the Saturday Morning Cartoon fact. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 21:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Ditto.  The cartoon fact. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I think that makes sense too: how does this version sound? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:48, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
<blockquote>This toon is a parody of various [[Wikipedia:Public service announcement|public service announcements]] at the end of cartoon shows (such as ''[[Wikipedia:G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero (TV series)|G.I. Joe]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:Captain Planet and the Planeteers|Captain Planet]]'') that attempt to give advice to children in the form of catchy songs, rap, etc. Common examples include campaigns against smoking and drug use.</blockquote>

I don't think that in this case it is specifically one or the other.  I certainly don't remember captain planet or G.I. Joe rapping or singing.  I seem to remember Paula Abdul singing.  I don't remember any rapping about safety on TV in general.  Rather, this seems to be a mismash of Public Service Announcements, After School Specials, end of show safety announcements, and even In-Class learning tools.  I can't think of a particularly short way of summarizing this, but I think it does the toon injustice to refer to it as a direct parody of any of these.

::Well, I went ahead and changed it, per this discussion. If there are any major disagreements, we could always [[STUFF]] this one. Although it seems as though we're in reasonable tandem, so that probably won't be necessary. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 04:13, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
:::The revision sorta killed the joke to me. --{{User:Ang the Ephemeral/sig}} 06:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, when I wrote that original fun fact, the politician reference I had in mind was Arnold Schwarzenegger, then Chairman for Bush Sr.'s position of President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports (1990-93).  He and other political figures would occasionally appear on these Saturday morning PSAs saying things like "Hi, I'm (politician), here to remind you to just say No to drugs" and similar messages.  They basically would try to serve as role models to children.  They weren't allowed to campaign politically in these PSAs, though, and to my knowledge they still aren't. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

::Wouldn't this fact be better in the Real World References rather than the Explanations section? [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 04:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes. And, reading this, it kind of reminds me of "Don't You Put It In Your Mouth".--[[User:T3H CH3K7 888|T3H_CH3K7_888]] 16:39, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

== Delay ==

:Did anyone else notice that the new stuff bubble didn't appear for this toon until today (the 26th)? --[[User:CertifiedArborist|CertifiedArborist]] 00:25, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

== Incorrect Location!? ==

In the locations section, it lists Blue Laser Cottage.  I assume this means that Blue Laser is supposedly in the cottage.  However, The Commander and Minions appear to be in the Cheat Commandos HQ, as evidenced by Gunhaver's picture on the wall.  This same background was used for the CC HQ in [[Let us give TANKS!]], when Gunhaver was ''staying behind'' at the base.  Also, the Blue Laser Cottage was 'splown up. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 04:32, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

:Naw. Compare the kitchens shown in Tanks and Rap Song. They're obviously the same room.{{User:Bluebry/sig}} 04:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, okay.  I got you now.  I think when I first looked at it, Reynold's Parent's House was also there, so I thought it meant that Blue Laser Cottage is where Blue Laser and his minions were.  In that case, is it notable that Blue Laser is in the Cheat Commandos HQ? [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 03:46, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

== Possible Real World Reference ==

The lines "Meet a bunch of kids from Alabama/ beach volleyball slamma jamma!" may be a reference to a popular cheer for the Crimson Tide.  (The Crimson Tide are the football team for the University of Alabama, and the cheer itself goes "Ramma jamma yella hamma, give 'em Hell, Alabama!")  Crack's mispronunciation of certain things might explain why it's "slamma jamma" instead of "ramma jamma," but I also don't think the odds are very good that TBC would be familiar with that cheer so it may just be coincidence.

Just puttin' it out there.
:I think they were just rhyming things with "Alabama". {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 12:12, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

== Grandmaster Flash ==

I was wondering if anyone else noted the similarities to Grandmaster Flash's classic of rap, "The Message," particularly the way the line "Kids, don't play with too many knives," relates to the refrain "Don't push me cause I'm close to the edge."  Dig:

[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/The_Message.ogg OGG Sample]

(Or perhaps you have to be of a certain age?)

Wonder if this merits mentioning in the article?

:I just watched this cartoon and the very first thing I thought of was that Grandmaster Flash tune...especially that Poo ha ha ha part.
:(and yes, perhaps you do have to be of a certain age) [[User:Ceilidthbear|Ceilidthbear]] 14:37, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

::That's what I thought of, too. And nah, you don't have to be of a certain age--I'm eighteen, and I like Grandmaster Flash and some of the earlier rap (not a big fan of most of the stuff today, though). I'm not sure if it's reference-worthy, but it certainly sounds a lot like "The Message." [[User:Mariko|Mariko]] 18:36, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

== Reversion Comment ==

There's a comment under "Goofs" stating that the second Pistols for Pandas visor is just a reversion of the first. However, I feel that this was more of an intended effect than a goof that TBC missed. Does it really belong there?

:It's a fuzzy area when you're talking about music videos, but since Crack is wearing both visors at the same time and they're not completely symmetrical on his head (ie. intentionally mirrored), I think it's more likely that he was just supposed to be wearing two identical visors and the cheap way to get the second one there was just to flip it horizontally.
:Keep in mind that there are other precedents for this sort of thing happening, too - [[Let us give TANKS!]] has a scene where one of the Blue Laser Minions has a fork stuck in one eye, but when he turns to face the other direction, the fork switches eyes.  This is again due to the horizontal flip.
:That said, this seems like a common enough occurrence that we can validly debate about why it keeps happening - are TBC consciously doing the flip, hoping nobody will notice?  Are they doing it to make fun of similar animation goofs elsewhere?  Are they not aware of the goofs?  Do they simply not care?  Unfortunately, we don't know what they're thinking, and it's usually a bad idea to speculate in the article. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 06:52, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, this is a really old talk section, but here I go anyway! Matt mentions in an email commentary which involves Cardgage (it might be email thunder? I don't remember for sure) that Cardgage's combover has "Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch Syndrome." I think it's pretty clear that it was just done for laziness/amount of work the first time and has since become a running gag between the two of them. &mdash;{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 01:43, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== Can anyone think of an example where this happened? ==

OK, I offer a preliminary slap in the back of the head to anyone who tries to push this into "breaking the 4th wall" category, but was there ever a cartoon where the voice of the cartoon came out at the end and said "Hi, I'm the voice of such and such?"  We mentioned Seargent Slaughter, but there, they just animated a pro-wrestler, and the Spongebob guy does some live action promos...but never...actually acknowledges who he is, he pretends to be a pirate.  The idea of a cartoon character's voice stepping forward in person, to a child, seems at first tantamount to Mickey Mouse taking off his head mask in front of kids at Disney World, but somewhere in the back of my head I vaguely remember, "Hi, you might remember me as the voice of such and such," then uses both their voice, and the cartoon voice for the PSA point.  Was it the Roger Rabbit guy?  Too long here, I know, but can anyone think of an example?
:Perhaps being the voice of "gun-shaver" is Crack's only claim to fame. [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 04:40, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

== Poo hahahaha ==

Was that human guy laughing at the word poo? I'm laughing right now!--[[User:74.234.58.172|74.234.58.172]] 13:55, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

By the way, that was me who said that above, I just wasn't logged in.--[[User:Ava|Ava]] 13:56, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
:See [[Talk:An_Important_Rap_Song#First_mention|above]]. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 15:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

==Baywatch ref?==
The pink letters scrolling to the left with the beach in the background looks like a ref to baywatch. But I'm not sure. [[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 22:02, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

==TR-909?==
How sure are you that's a real TR-909 making the beats (see Trivia), for all we know it could be a VST, or samples, or clone...{{unsigned|69.55.193.129|1:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)}}

:Hm, that was added {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=An_Important_Rap_Song&diff=435794&oldid=435793 here}}.  You raise a good point, as it could easily be from [[Wikipedia:ReBirth RB-338|ReBirth RB-338]] or something like that (assuming that the sounds are unique to the TR-909).&nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

== Sound Quality ==

OK, so there's been this fact in the [[An Important Rap Song#Remarks|Remarks]] section saying that the sound quality is significantly higher than in most other cartoons on the site. I really think this fact is questionable. Isn't the whole thing subjective? Can different people have differing opinions on the sound quality of this toon? And now someone has adding to it, saying that the character videos of [[The King of Town]] and [[Marzipan]] also have better sound. To be honest, I could not hear any difference at all. This fact should be removed. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

:I agree with you, however, methinks it need be STUFFed. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 23:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
::Perhaps there is a technical reason for the claim that the quality is better (like a higher bitrate). Let's ask around about that before sending it to STUFF. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:09, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

== There's a difference? ==

I don't get out much so I'm kinda curious about something. In the hip-hop lingo, what's the difference between &quot;Fresh&quot; and &quot;Fly&quot;? - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 18:50, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
:There used to be an explanation on this, but it was [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=An_Important_Rap_Song&diff=435731&oldid=435729 removed]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
::I put it back 'cause it's interesting (on the assumption that it's true; if it's not true, someone please say so). &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
:::It now says:
::::*"'Fresh' in this case means 'first rate', while 'fly' means 'stylish'."--[[User:T3H CH3K7 888|T3H_CH3K7_888]] 16:52, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:Well, according to [http://www.urbandictionary.com/ urbandictionary.com], "fresh" means "cool, in style", whilst "fry" means "cool, in style". The joke is they mean the same thing. For example, the TV Show ''The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air'' and The Offspring's ''Pretty Fly (for a White Guy)''. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:57, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
::I agree. I believe that the joke of it is that there is no difference, thus is why he says "And trust me. There is a difference." Simply because he isn't exactly the smartest character on Homstar Runner. -Some person who does not yet have an account.

==Riggity Roll!==

Does anyone else thing Gunhaver changing the cathphrase to "Riggity Roll", possibly be beacuase of Crank Stuntman, who simply forgot then changed it? (After all, he can't remember his charecters name...)
-{{User:HeyMama/sig}}
:He would have had his lines memorized from a script, so I don't think it's possible... but who's Crank Stuntman? -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]], 10:03 PM, March 31, 2007 (EST)
::[[Crack Stuntman]] does the voice of [[Gunhaver]] on the Cheat Command-show. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}}
:::No, I don't think it's Crack's bad knowledge of the show, and it's the script reason I think so. It seems improbable Crack'd remember it for, what, four toons and suddenly forget it. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:08, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Not remembering a character's name right could definitely be easy to do, depending on how the voice acting is done.  A lot of times, especially with low budget stuff, people are just handed a paper with lines on it to read into the mic.  No direction, no being told what you're saying a line in response to, nothing even resembling a script, and no actual dialogue with the other voice actors.  Just read an entire episode's worth of lines, one after the other, then go home.  Lot of low budget stuff, especially crappy computer games, you can really tell they did it that way, because their inflection will be off.  Especially on one-word lines, like "who?" or "what?".  Like "I figured out who murdered Joe!"  "Who?" (inflected more like "who are you talking about?  I don't know anyone named Joe," than the obviously intended "who was it that killed him?")

::::So anyway, a catchphrase, like "rock rock on!" would be said a lot, and the voice actor would probably remember it.  But most characters don't say their own name that often.  And if everyone's lines are all recorded seperately, and Stuntman never watches the show, he could conceivably have never heard Gunhaver's name actually said out loud, and may not even see it in print that often, if it's not written on his line-sheet.  [[User:Arrkhal|Arrkhal]] 06:08, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

:::::I also don't think it's a flub. You don't memorize lines for an animated show; you read them. Stuntman would have the copy in front of him. The only way a flub makes sense is if he was completely unwilling to record the correct line, and so the producers had no choice but to use the flub, animate his arms in a funny way as he said it, animate the other Commandos' reactions to it, and record Silent Rip's line (which could possibly have been an ad lib if the recording session included more than one voice actor, but still). I think it makes more sense simply to attribute it to Gunhaver, not Stuntman. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:04, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

::::::This wouldn't be the first time in the H*R universe that editors have tried to pick up the slack for the characters.  In the "first time here?" video homestar's bungled lines show up on screen magically, as though they were deliberately editted in there.
:::::::Plus, in [[Limozeen: "but they're in space!"]], the cancellation is announced ''during'' the pilot itself by [[Teeg Dougland]], and all the other characters react to his bad news. Since cartoons can't be live action, either the pilot was cancelled during production but was aired anyway, or it's a cartoon about dumb animal characters so illogical crap like this can happen all the time for the purpose of humor. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:24, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

== Plunges? ==

I'm looking at the definition [http://www.webster.com/dictionary/plunges in Webster's], and I can't really see where any of them fit.  All of the definitions listed mention plunging ''into'' or ''off of'' something, which is not really the case here.  [http://www.webster.com/dictionary/lunges Lunge], on the other hand, seems to fit the situation exactly.  I'm curious as to how you're reading these definitions, Bluebry. {{User:Laramie/Sig}} 12:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
:Where does it say "plunges"?--[[User:T3H CH3K7 888|T3H_CH3K7_888]] 16:55, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

== The Sneeze? ==

In the popular humor blog [http://www.thesneeze.com The Sneeze] there has been a multi-instalment joke about a conversation the author had with his 4 year-old son.  He asks, "Please put your pants on," and the son answers, "Fine.  Pickles!"  I'm not sure if the opening segment is a reference to this or not.

Other than putting pants back on...  meh, I'd say it's a stretch.  If BLC said "Fine.  Pickles!", then I'd have considered it a reference. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 19:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

== Inside References error ==

"Although not explicitly stated as such, the knives that Reynold's brother finds are rather big."
*I dissagree. They are merely in the foreground. [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 07:10, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

:With the background seen outside the frame if you look at the flash or have one of the viewer scripts, you can scale the knives to their appropriate size next to Reynold's brother.  They're about 80% of the shown size (on each dimension).  Still pretty big, at least the left two are.  Of course it's real hard to define 'big' in terms of Cheat sized and shaped beings. [[User:70.146.127.129|70.146.127.129]] 15:47, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

"Bubs foot isn't giant, it's just in the foreground." [[User:KanineKommander|KanineKommander]] 19:33, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

== Summertime? ==

Did anyone else think that the lyrics might have been inspired by/poking fun at The Fresh Prince's [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/w/will+smith/summertime_20146987.html Summertime]? It didn't sound the same, but nevertheless I thought the lyrics seemed sort of modeled after it.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

== The other Crack? ==
I noticed that during the lines: 
Well you're a rich kid, living in the suburbs,
and there's not a whole lot to do.
Crack points to his name printed on his shirt on the word "do". Coincidence, or does this PSA have a deeper message? [[User:Arkyopterix|Arkyopterix]] 22:36, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
:Definitely noticed this.  Seemed ''extremely'' blatant to me.  I mean, "you're a rich kid living in the suburbs and there's not a whole lot to do"?  Plus the fact that the ''actual'' message of the song is an extremely non-issue that an ironically placed allusion to a real issue seems somewhat appropriate (and quite funny).  Don't really know if it's worth mentioning or anything. [[User:68.223.138.23|68.223.138.23]] 04:53, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

::Wait, I don't understand. He points to his name. So what? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 19:52, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
:::They think he's referring to crack. Like, the drug. Personally, I think it's a ridiculous notion. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:55, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
::::It's probably just a stupid coincidence that he seems to point at his name. The rap song isn't about the dangers of drugs, it's about knife safety and spring break. He's just doing finger gestures in a futile attempt at being cool. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:03, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Thiiiiis is Crack Stuntman ==

I don't know if it's worth noting or not, but the way "BLAAAAH'm Crack Stuntman" is said is very similar to the way "Thiiiiis is Crack Stuntman" is said in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]]. On the one hand, each character has a particular way of talking, and noting it each time they speak that way seems redundant. On the other hand the dragged out greeting seems to be a gimmick for Crack Stuntman, so should it be noted somewhere? &#8212; <span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; color: B22222;">[[User:moeroris|moeroris]] ([[User talk:moeroris|talk]])</span> 18:51, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

== Senior Prom email song ==
The rhythm of the line "Kids don't play wit 2 many knives" is very similar to the e-mail song in the easter egg at the end of [[Senior Prom]]. Has anyone else noticed this?
[[User:74.114.133.55|74.114.133.55]] 05:13, 3 May 2007 (UTC) Unregistered User - Shard
:See [[Talk:An Important Rap Song#Email_Styles|above]].--[[User:T3H CH3K7 888|T3H_CH3K7_888]] 17:12, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

== Numbers? ==

The numbers on the dolla (34678234678 and 67834jq8nds respectively) must mean something, right?  If they were totally random, why do nine, five, and zero not apear, and why are the numbers always in order?  Do they refer to dates (3/4/67, 8/23/46, 6/78 mean anything to anyone?) or possibly a representation of musical notes since it is base eight?  Or am I looking too far into this?
:i think the jq and nds are supposed to be capital ( another thing that might need be here )--[[User:72.172.198.130|72.172.198.130]] 13:02, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::That's already noted in Trivia. As to randomness, randomness does not mean you can't randomly get a string of 5s or not see 9 in a long series of random generations or anything like that. It's ''random'' - anything can happen. Dice have no memory. There may be dates or other numerological references within those numbers, but unless a '''strong''' association can be find, any connectionj proposed will most likely be seen as speculative. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:28, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

== The Song MP3... ==

I've noticed that the song is a direct link...and I'd really want to download the song, but because the link is in flash, and it isn't in a zip folder, I can't download it. Does anyone have a copy of the song as an MP3 possibly? If so, I'd really appriciate it if you posted a link to a file hosting site (like filesend.net) with the song on it, so people with computers that play mp3 files in their browser can download it.
:That's easy to fix, simply right click the link and choose 'Save Link As...' or something similar, and it'll save as a .mp3. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}}
::<s>You can also 	see [[#MP3|this]] discussion (it contains a link to the mp3). Happy wiki-ing!</s> Nevermind. Listen to TSSG3. He is wise like the owl of night... {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 16:54, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
:::I have parental controls on my pc, so I can't save stuff like that. does anyone have the mp3 uploaded somewhere?
::::hmm, ill upload it to my site. tell ya when!--[[User:72.172.198.130|72.172.198.130]] 12:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::::: As I posted in the above topic of mp3s, if you go to "Save Target As..." it saves as mpeg and not mp3. It really would be helpful if someone actually posted an mp3.
::::::You need to tell your browser to save it as an mp3, then it'll work just fine.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:25, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Er....how exactly do I do that? And does the fact my default internet is Firefox have to do with it?

== Homestar and not www.homestar? ==

I've noticed the address is <nowiki>http://homestarrunner.com/2manyknives.html</nowiki> when most of the others have a www. at the beginning ( i.e. <nowiki>http://www.homestarrunner.com/lilbrudder.html</nowiki> ) maybe it's just my browser, but plz answer!--[[user:72.172.198.130 12:28|72.172.198.130 12:28]], 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:In many - perhaps most - cases, you don't need to add the "www" part of the address, as internet servers are usually configured to assume that you intend that. You'll find that <nowiki>http://homestarrunner.com/2manyknives.html</nowiki> and <nowiki>http://www.homestarrunner.com/2manyknives.html</nowiki> point to the same document. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 12:56, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::cool thx!--[[User:72.172.198.130|72.172.198.130]] 13:03, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

== Ok... ==

So I find it kind of weird that the Cheat Commandos are all "the cheats" (which we can assume is an actual animal in the HR universe). So having someone do the voice of a Cheat Commando must mean that the Cheat Commandos are animated (in the HR universe), but why, then, would they have a human being doing the voice of a "the cheat"? I always saw the Cheat Commandos as other real-life "the cheats" on TV. '''I DON'T GET IT!!!''' Can anyone see what I'm saying? It's really hard to explain...--[[User:Original Nick|Nick]] 08:44, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
:It's never directly stated on the site, but it's quite clear from both references in the toons and the comments the Brothers Chaps make in the commentaries that the Cheat Commandos are animated characters. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:20, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
::Ok I guess that makes sense. Thanks for the response.--[[User:Original Nick|Nick]] 09:22, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
:::And it says... somewhere... that it doesn't hold true to the original source, like other 80s TV shows.--[[User:T3H CH3K7 888|T3H_CH3K7_888]] 17:15, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

== Y-Rock on XPN / TMBG ==

This song was <i>just</i> featured on this radio program by non other than They Might Be Giants! If someone would like to help document this, check out the front page of the TMBG wiki: http://tmbw.net/wiki/Main_Page . {{User:4kai2lyn6/sig}} 02:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
:Unfortunately, that's still just a [[sighting]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:44, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
::Ah, yes. I've forgotten H*R wiki procedures. (I deserve to be slapped!) Still, it's rather unfortunate that it can't be mentioned here. Thanks for the redirect, Defender. {{User:4kai2lyn6/sig}} 02:53, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Hm, I think TMBG are nearly crossing the line from being a sighting, since them and TBC have collaborated more than once. But I think this does have the nature of a sighting.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:57, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
::::That was and still is my line of thinking as well, Loafing. It's up to you guys. {{User:4kai2lyn6/sig}} 02:59, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

== Fast Forward and Furious? ==

Given the reaction of Silent Rip to "riggidy-roll", it would appear Crack Stuntman as Gunhaver went off-script and Chimendez animated around it.  Seeing as he does this ''all the time'' in [[The Next Epi-Snowed]], does this qualify as a fast-forward/inside reference combo? -- [[User:TJDevil02|TJDevil02]]

== Rap Song ==

I doubt anyone would come here thinking this was Rap Song. [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 07:48, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
:I assume that you're referring to the disambiguation at the top of the page. The names of the two are similar enough that it's worth having just in case. It's not hurting anything to be there. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:06, 25 November 2018 (UTC)