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{{talkchecklist|Checklist for new Strong Bad Email:}}
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*Create an article with the title of the new email (as listed on the [[HR:sbemails|Strong Bad Email menu]]) with the content <tt><nowiki>{{subst:newsbemail|###}}</nowiki></tt> (substitute the new email number for <tt>###</tt>). If you already know the forum thread number, use <tt><nowiki>{{subst:newsbemail|###|#####}}</nowiki></tt>.
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*Create an article with the title of the new email (as listed on the [[HR:sbemail.html|Strong Bad Email menu]]) with the content <tt><nowiki>{{subst:newsbemail|###}}</nowiki></tt> (substitute the new email number for <tt>###</tt>). If you already know the forum thread number, use <tt><nowiki>{{subst:newsbemail|###|#####}}</nowiki></tt>.
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*Update [[Template:sbenav-lookup]].
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*Update [[Template:sbenav-lookup]]. Be sure to set the value of "0" and "last" to the new email.
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*Update main [[Strong Bad Email]] list, the [[Template:Strong Bad Email|template list]], and the [[Strong Bad Email Menu|menu list]].
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*Update main [[Strong Bad Email]] list, and the [[Template:Strong Bad Email|template list]].
*On the main [[Strong Bad Email]] page, update the total emails and various fun facts.
*On the main [[Strong Bad Email]] page, update the total emails and various fun facts.
*Update each list in the Strong Bad Email [[Template:StrongBadEmailInfo|navigation template]] (and verify in each page's history that the previous email's entries were updated as well).
*Update each list in the Strong Bad Email [[Template:StrongBadEmailInfo|navigation template]] (and verify in each page's history that the previous email's entries were updated as well).
*Update [[Template:recenttoons]].
*Update [[Template:recenttoons]].
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*Update [[HRWiki:Subtitles/Data#Strong Bad Emails]].
*Link the email page to the forum and vice versa, if necessary.
*Link the email page to the forum and vice versa, if necessary.
*Redirect <tt><nowiki>[[</nowiki>sbemail###]]</tt>, <tt><nowiki>[[</nowiki>sbemail ###]]</tt>, and <tt><nowiki>[[</nowiki>Strong Bad Email ###]]</tt> to the current email.
*Redirect <tt><nowiki>[[</nowiki>sbemail###]]</tt>, <tt><nowiki>[[</nowiki>sbemail ###]]</tt>, and <tt><nowiki>[[</nowiki>Strong Bad Email ###]]</tt> to the current email.
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*Update [[HRWiki:Subtitles/Data#Strong Bad Emails]], [[Template:whatsnew]], [[H*R.com updates {{CURRENTYEAR}}]], [[Index Page Messages]], [[Main Page Messages]], [[Strong Bad Emails By Length]], [[All Toons]], and [[YouTube]] (if applicable) with an entry to the new toon.
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*Update [[Template:whatsnew]], [[H*R.com updates {{CURRENTYEAR}}]], [[New Stuff]], and [[All Toons]] with an entry to the new toon.
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*Update [[Secret Pages XML Source#Random Toon XML File]] with [[HR:rando.xml|rando.xml]] (click View->Page Source and copy/paste).
*Check your work using [[Special:Sbemailcheck]].
*Check your work using [[Special:Sbemailcheck]].
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2. The new menu works completely differently and will probably need it's won page or subsection. Still trying figurue out if there's a pattern to Strong Bad's comments on the emails. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 02:02, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
2. The new menu works completely differently and will probably need it's won page or subsection. Still trying figurue out if there's a pattern to Strong Bad's comments on the emails. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 02:02, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
:Yeah, I was just wondering that myself. We need to create [[Strong Bad Email Menu]], stat! (Also, I notice you've been adding descriptions to each email's page. I'd suggest holding off on that for now. It's a big project that needs consensus for how it's going to be implemented.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 02:43, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
:Yeah, I was just wondering that myself. We need to create [[Strong Bad Email Menu]], stat! (Also, I notice you've been adding descriptions to each email's page. I'd suggest holding off on that for now. It's a big project that needs consensus for how it's going to be implemented.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 02:43, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
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::Discussion about descriptions continues at [[HRWiki:Projects#Toon Descriptions|HRWiki:Projects → Toon Descriptions]]
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::Descriptions are currently being added to the top of email pages, but I don't know if that's the best place for them. They're not ''so'' important that they need to be listed alongside date and running time. (Especially considering [[TV Time Toons Menu]] descriptions have never been documented on toon pages. I think that should change, but that's another discussion for another time.) I would add them to the Trivia section (alongside [[YouTube]] and [[Podstar Runner]] descriptions), like so:
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::<code><nowiki>*The [[Strong Bad Email menu]] description for this email is "X"</nowiki></code> {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 22:07, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
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== anyone like tge sbemaiil homsar? ==
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::: But it's a fact that now can exist for literally every sbemail, and most if not all toons. If we're putting them on the sbemail/toon pages anyway, I think having a dedicated space for them, not under "Trivia", is the way to go. Maybe not necessarily at the top, but not in "Trivia". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:18, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
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:::: Here are a couple of things that we will need to account for as we decide where and how to standardize this info:
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anyone? no? ok...
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::::* Most of the menu descriptions are identical to the description on [[YouTube]], but some are different.
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::::* Some of the YouTube descriptions are in the Trivia section, while some are in a YouTube Version section.
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==Sbemail209 release date==
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:::: I think we should list the menu description, the YouTube description (if any), and the Podstar description (if any) together in a standard place, either in the upper area of the page or perhaps in a new Description(s) section above Explanations. If descriptions are identical, they should be combined and noted as such. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:46, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
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March 25th, 2022 --[[User:Jeffjman|J∃ffJ]][[User_talk:Jeffjman|Man]][[File:jeffjsigchrismas.png|23px]] 17:13, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
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:::::I definitely support listing all the descriptions together on each page. I like the idea of a Descriptions section. That would also be a good place to note the [[Talk:homestarrunner.com#Hidden Descriptions|hidden page descriptions that Gfd brought up]]. {{User:Lira/sig}} 20:47, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
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:I wouldn’t get my hopes up. I don’t think we’re gonna see it for quite a while. And is there any source for that date or are you just making it up? [[User:TheOneAndOnlyDanky|TheOneAndOnlyDanky]] 18:27, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
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::Mostly making it up, but hey, it might be out on either then OR april fools day, since they've been doing it every 4 years now. --[[User:Jeffjman|J∃ffJ]][[User_talk:Jeffjman|Man]][[File:jeffjsigchrismas.png|23px]] 11:18, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
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== sbemail templates ==
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I had an idea a while ago. What if instead of putting a whole blockquote thingy for an email, say [[strong badathlon]], instead we made a template for the email. I tried it out and it works.
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The template could be:
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<nowiki>{{sbemail165}}</nowiki>
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and it would look like:
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<blockquote class="lappy email">
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<div>subject: the cheat</div>
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Strong bad,<br>
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For a long time i've been wondering.... How far can you<br>
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throw the cheat?  If you don't want to do that, could you<br>
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beat the crud out of homestar for no reason?<br>
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Lewis Rudkin<br>
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Essex, England.
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</blockquote>
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What do you guys think? Cool idea? Stupid idea? I have made more templates over on my [[User:HoveringSombrero/Sandbox|sandbox]]. - [[User:HoveringSombrero|HoveringSombrero]] ([[User talk:HoveringSombrero|talk]]) [[File:Shoulder shoomps.png|23px]]
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:In theory, the idea isn't bad: I've thought of making a template with all the block quotes. But making 200 different templates is too tedious and problematic to maintain.  Better to have a single template that has all the quotes in one place, selectable by a switch statement.  That way you can just programmatically pass the email number as a variable (for example <code><nowiki>{{sbemailTemplate|165}}</nowiki></code>; name pending) and maintain the code in a single location. The downside would be that of performance as template limits might be reached if all 200 emails are included in a single page. Either way, most likely the already-created templates will be deleted. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:23, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
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<blockquote class="lappy email">
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Dear Homestar Runner Wiki,<br>
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I was wondering why someone was creating hundreds of templates for individual emails that in practice, would only be used once. It seems more logical to have a
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single template with spaces that can be customized so it can be used many
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times in many different ways, when the needs arise.<br>
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Also, a customizable template would also provide the opportunity for me to
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play around with it and write my own hilarious Strong Bad Emails whenever the
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mood strikes me.<br>
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[[Crapfully yours|With excrement]],<br>
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-- [[Special:Contributions/68.37.43.131|68.37.43.131]] 23:19, 7 January 2023 (UTC)</blockquote>
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::I would only approve of this if they were combined into one template as Stux suggested, and even then I don't think it's necessary. Either way, I think the created templates should be deleted. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}} 05:22, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
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:::These templates don't do anything except move one instance of code off the page where it appears. I don't see any benefit to this. Templates are useful for formatting, which these don't help with, or repetition, which I'd do a different way if we really thought we needed. (Given that sbemails aren't updating, I also don't think we currently need any formatting templates.) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:31, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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