Editing Talk:Trogdor!! The Board Game Items

== Bonus Cards ==
I got the Beefy Wyrmwood board for the game, and with the board itself I got some really broken cards. The cards are shown here. I suspect that if I got these outlandish cards here, I can only assume other people got different cards than these. If you have them, let's talk about them and possibly categorize them as such in the respective Keeper and Item parts.

[[File:Trogdor_Bonus_Cards_Back.jpg|200px]] [[File:Trogdor_Bonus_Cards_Face.jpg|200px]]

--[[User:AeroSnake|AeroSnake]] 01:19, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
:These are really interesting.  I think they should be fully documented (including describing the “real” cards that have been “taped over”. -[[Special:Contributions/166.137.252.121|166.137.252.121]] 13:48, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
::Hmm, cards featuring [[Don't Make Daddy P.O.'d]], the Stupid Home Edition of [[The Show]] (from [[geddup noise]]), the Cobra-Pult (from [[what I want]]) and Color Wheel Roulette (from [[redesign]]). All games manufactured by [[Boardalectrix]]. I didn't even realize those games came with cards! -- [[Special:Contributions/68.37.43.131|68.37.43.131]] 21:28, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
:::There are cards of this type documented here, but not these in particular. Thanks, they'll be added here soon. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 23:25, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
::::That’d be worth seeing! --[[User:AeroSnake|AeroSnake]] 00:31, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

== Dang! ==

Why is't this putting the pictures side by side?!
--[[User:AeroSnake|AeroSnake]] 01:23, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
:How big is your monitor? It could be that the pictures are too wide. It looks fine to me. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:41, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
::Looks fine to me as well. I shrunk them because they took up so much space on this talk page, so maybe now you'll be able to see them side-by-side. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 23:25, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

== About Spacing and Another Thing ==

Thanks, that was the issue. Also, was it okay for me to upload those two pictures to the project? I read the rules for imagery uploadery (SB's style of words?) but am not sure if it's allowed to upload images that aren't personal, for discussion purposes, though they're relevant.
--[[User:AeroSnake|AeroSnake]] 04:09, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
:No problem! We upload images for discussions all the time. Also, you don't need to start a new discussion for every reply. Just edit the page, and in the next line, add a colon (:) and then your reply. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 23:25, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks for the tip. I actually had a picture of the thank-you note for buying a Wyrmwood package, complete with a hand-drawn Strong Bad. I’ll upload that when I’m at my computer. --[[User:AeroSnake|AeroSnake]] 00:22, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

== Legal Stuff ==

How much of the game can we document here legally? Can we upload images of individual cards and tiles and stuff? The rulebook says "No part of this product may be reproduced without specific permission.", so does that include wiki-style documentation? Also, does that apply only to the rulebook, or to the entire game? I'd rather not have any visits from [[Litigation Jackson]]. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 02:27, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
:I'm not a legal expert or anything, but I would say uploading images of every single card would probably be a step too far. Like, go ahead and transcribe the whole thing in text, I'm sure that's fine. The rulebook especially, having a duplicate of the rules' full text written out online would be helpful for a lot of people. But personally, I'd think that having a full picture of every card might be overstepping a bit, even if they were particularly low-quality (and if they were, why even bother?). ''Maybe'' just the artwork from each card would be okay to include, but basically I think someone should '''''not''''' be able to fully assemble a facsimilie of the game out of our wiki documentation, y'know? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 02:40, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
Circling back for the Expando Deck... while the info for the base game is [[oldhr:printandplay|freely available and encouraged to be printed]] or [https://twitter.com/strongbadactual/status/1250169939656413184 re-hosted to Tabletop Simulator], I don't see such "open-source" treatment on the new deck. Sure, some of this is me not wanting to type up 40+ cards, but I'm also loath to "rip" these so soon after release, especially as some cards (like the Spells) are in their own deck and you could just play them by having the text. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 00:47, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

== Reversible Meeples  ==

It seems that some of the Meeples (at least the dragon ones, e.g. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRTK2tSEfL64rZT_CQ064nbLk2RhoqQYNwzqrYRaFxmJI0RHQJE ) are reversible/printed on both sides.  Does anyone actually have the game and can confirm/dispute? -[[Special:Contributions/107.77.76.56|107.77.76.56]] 13:56, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
:Every dragon has the same pattern on its reverse except one. Strong Mad’s DAGRON instead has Homsar’s “Toaster’s Choice” on the reverse side. This change was for something about existing Taster’s Choice, I believe. I personally think the Toaster variation is better. --[[User:AeroSnake|AeroSnake]] 23:48, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
::I don't have the game yet, but from what I can tell, it seems like the peasants, archers, and knights aren't reversible, while the dragons and Homestar Runner meeples are. This is probably because Stack 'Em to the Heavens requires the non-reversible ones to have a distinguishable back side. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 20:24, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

== Flame protardant archer ==

What is the significance of the archer explicitly avoiding trogdor’s firey rage? The game ends after this action, right? -[[Special:Contributions/174.62.238.201|174.62.238.201]] 12:55, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
:Correct, it doesn't have any bearing on the gameplay, nor does the burnination of knights during that event (it's not necessary to remove them to win). As far as I know the archer survives just to be annoying. Stupid Arch Deluxe. {{User:SRMX12/sig}} 13:23, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
::Since it has no effect on gameplay, the only reason I can think of is continuity. They want the board game to seem like it could really happen in the Trogdor universe. The knights are just random knights, so you can kill them off all you want, but the archers are the classic characters Mendelev and Dongolev, so they need to survive to be part of the next game. It's speculation, but it's the only reason I can think of. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 20:24, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
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 :::There are cards of this type documented here, but not these in particular. Thanks, they'll be added here soon. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 23:25, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 ::::That’d be worth seeing! --[[User:AeroSnake|AeroSnake]] 00:31, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
-:::It's been a while since we brought up these bonus cards. Who has clean pictures of other bonuses if there are any? The four I posted ''can't'' be the only ones.--[[User:AeroSnake|AeroSnake]] 02:34, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
-::::I didn't buy the board game, but I'm going to assume that everyone who did received the same "bonus" cards. They appear just as mass produced and pre-planned as the rest; the difference is that the effects that these "bonus" cards create are more outlandish than "normal" play, either by design or due to lack of design, as the case may be. -- [[Special:Contributions/68.37.43.131|68.37.43.131]] 04:34, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
-:::::From what I remember on Twitter there is definitely a The Cheat card, so I'm guessing there's a limited number of cards, but not every backer received the same set. {{User:DEIDATVM/sig}} 05:21, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
-::::::[[Trogdor!! The Board Game Items#Just The Cheat|Just The Cheat]] is an ordinary bonus card that came with every set. They're talking about the ''bonus'' bonus cards exclusive to Wyrmwood backers. {{User:SRMX12/sig}} 06:33, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 == Dang! ==
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 :No problem! We upload images for discussions all the time. Also, you don't need to start a new discussion for every reply. Just edit the page, and in the next line, add a colon (:) and then your reply. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 23:25, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 ::Thanks for the tip. I actually had a picture of the thank-you note for buying a Wyrmwood package, complete with a hand-drawn Strong Bad. I’ll upload that when I’m at my computer. --[[User:AeroSnake|AeroSnake]] 00:22, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
-:::Actually, never mind. I've decided it's irrelevant.--[[User:AeroSnake|AeroSnake]] 00:21, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
-::::What, the image? If you don't want to upload it, that's fine, but I wouldn't consider it irrelevant. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 02:54, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
-:::::It's just not part of gameplay. Besides, the message itself is almost verbatim what the site says about broken cards being used to hilarious effect. --[[User:AeroSnake|AeroSnake]] 23:23, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 == Legal Stuff ==
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 :Correct, it doesn't have any bearing on the gameplay, nor does the burnination of knights during that event (it's not necessary to remove them to win). As far as I know the archer survives just to be annoying. Stupid Arch Deluxe. {{User:SRMX12/sig}} 13:23, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 ::Since it has no effect on gameplay, the only reason I can think of is continuity. They want the board game to seem like it could really happen in the Trogdor universe. The knights are just random knights, so you can kill them off all you want, but the archers are the classic characters Mendelev and Dongolev, so they need to survive to be part of the next game. It's speculation, but it's the only reason I can think of. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 20:24, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
-== The Other Knight ==
-Has anyone else noticed that the other 3D-printed Knight figure, the one with a red crest on his helmet, doesn't have a picture on the page?--[[User:AeroSnake|AeroSnake]] 03:59, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
-:Yeah, there isn't a high-quality image of the Red Knight that I'm aware of, but we could use a lower-quality one, or I could make one from the Blue Knight with some fancy editing. (If it's even necessary, since they're both nearly identical.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 00:06, 7 August 2019 (UTC)