Category talk:Music Video Visuals

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[edit] Not Quite Visuals

If music video visuals are transcribed on the video's page, should the video page be included in this category? Stinkoman 20X6 Intro Cinematic is listed here despite not purely being a visuals page, while Moving Very Slowly (video), It's Like it Was Meant to Be (video), Secret Song (video), and The Actions You Can Do (video) are not (nor are Quickstart Overview (video) and Trogdor's Fiery Rage (video), but that's because I just added visuals to those pages and couldn't decide whether they should be included). I can see the value in limiting the category to a specific type of page, but I think a more inclusive scope might be better. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 03:59, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

I've added Quickstart Overview (video) and Trogdor's Fiery Rage (video) since they were merged from the visuals page and remain in visuals format. The other 4 are in Transcript format, but that doesn't mean that the transcript doesn't describe the visuals. I'm not sure where the line between the two is and should be drawn. It's probably because we don't have a "music video" category and this may end up becoming such a de-facto kind of category...? --Stux 15:50, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
I think a Music Videos category should be created as a parent category of Music Video Visuals. In that case, it would make sense to limit the scope to purely visuals pages, since all video pages will be found in the parent category. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 22:24, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
I'm good with that. I like that plan. BTW I think that this discussion, and this related discussion should be combined into one and maybe placed in a more prominent location since it affects multiple articles. --Stux 23:06, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
I feel like both discussions are different enough to stay separate. This discussion concerns the scope of the visuals category and the potential creation of new categories, while the other discussion is about merging certain visuals pages with their respective video pages (which has already been done, rendering that discussion more or less finished).
Speaking of new categories though, in addition to a Music Videos subcategory, another idea I've considered to make the Songs category less full is to create subcategories for each album. I'll probably do that at some point, but I thought I'd bring it up here anyway in case anyone disagrees for whatever reason, and I can avoid doing all the editing to change the categories on dozens of pages. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 03:38, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Fair enough. There's no need to revisit the other discussion if it's complete.
Now, regarding the new category stuff: funny that you mention per-album sub categories, I just noticed that there's an albums subcategory in place already! So, how would we go about doing this? Would each subcat belong to both Songs and Albums? --Stux 09:40, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
I was thinking that the individual album categories would be subcategories of Albums. I suppose they could be added to Songs as well, but that might be redundant. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 01:03, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
Done! The Songs category has been divided further into Music Videos and individual album categories (1, 2, 3, 4). Hopefully this makes it easier to navigate! Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 20:25, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Awesome! I like this! I can see how songs is an overarching category even for the albums, so I'm good with that solution :). And I wouldn't pay any mind to spamming the recent changes, sometimes these things are necessary ;). Thanks for the hard work and effort! --Stux 08:05, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
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