Talk:Fan Costumes '07

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Contents 1 Cast of Costumes 2 Man? 3 Crack voice 4 Jnelson09 as Homsar 5 Man? #2 6 Not an inside reference 7 yello dello 8 I am called 9 What kind of infant abuse? 10 Crack the Fourth Wall 11 Hygene Reference

[edit] Cast of Costumes

A thought I just had, and this seems like the best place to bring it up (though it applies to previous Fan Costumes too): what if we add a second cast line? A line for the costumes used in the toon, similar to the cast, to make sure they all get linked? It would not use the {{film}} template (as they're not of the actual characters and don't count towards filmograpy), but would be a handy way to show everything used in the toon without having to make a fun fact for each one. It could be something like this:

Cast (in order of appearance): Strong Bad, Bubs, Strong Sad, Homestar Runner (Film template not used, so to not put the talk in the categories, but you know what I mean.)

Costumes depicted: Crack Stuntman, Eh! Steve!, Stinkoman, etc.

I think it would be a great idea. What say everyone else? --DorianGray 08:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I think it's a good idea! Trey56 08:19, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I concur! Best prize! DING! --Senorial Jay (Convolutions) 10:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I conquer. And I think it's a good idea, too. OptimisticFool 14:00, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Good Idea'd! "that's it?!" Umm... and then executing said idea'd! "that's better!" — Defender1031*Talk 14:01, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Done! — Defender1031*Talk 14:43, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Man?

Okay, um, sorry if no one agrees, but I think the person dressed as Strong Sad is...um...a woman. The transcript describes him/her as a man, but I have to say I don't agree. If anybody can provide conclusive proof otherwise, that'd be greeeeat, but, um...I think we should discuss this. Thoughts? -- Onamuji 14:07, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

My first impression was that it was a woman; I was surprised to read (here) that the person was labeled a man in the transcript. Upon viewing it again, the face seems feminine, but those really do look like "man hands" .. And the body type is difficult to tell because of those hula hoops or whatever. So, I'm on the fence. Could be either. OptimisticFool 14:49, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

People that I can't tell whether they're a boy or girl creep me out. SuperfieldCreditUnion

[edit] Crack voice

During that last line which takes place between Strong Bad and a Teen Girl Squad voice, it sounded to me like it was a dialog between Crack Stuntman and the Teen Girl...the transcript says it's just Strong Bad's voice and a teen girl's voice. I'm having trouble wording this, but does anyone agree with me?

Though it is supposed to be a dialog between Crack Stuntman and a teen girl squad member, it is obviously still Strong Bad's voice, so the transcript is correct. That may not be very clear. Can anyone else add anything? --Acam30 20:38, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it's suppoesd to be Crack and a TGS girl, but rather a frat boy (dressed as Crack) abd a TGS girl. In that part, and in beginning where he's doing the commentary for that costume in the same voice, I think it should say something along the lines of "Strong Bad imitating a fraternity brother voice". Just "higher pitched voice" doesn't quite describe it very well.--.Johnny Jupiter! ^talk _cont 22:29, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jnelson09 as Homsar

I notice that users appear to be allowed to get credit for Weekly Fanstuff .. any remark suitable for Jnelson09 on this page? OptimisticFool 16:42, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

It got added, so I'll take that as a yes. OptimisticFool 00:24, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

How is Jnelson09's identity relevant at all?

[edit] Man? #2

That's a tank top on the final Strong Bad? Looks like a bra to me. (Especially in the close-up of the "Lappy".) TJDevil02

Woman. Definitely seeing a strap under that tank-top thing. The word "person" should be replaced by "woman", but let's wait for another opinion just for fun. OptimisticFool 21:11, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

That is DEFINTELY a tank top; bras generally do not cover a person's stomach. Though now that I look, I see what could be the straps of a bra around her(?) shoulders. I specifically put "person" only because I couldn't tell. --Senorial Jay (Convolutions) 23:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Maybe they're holding that Lappy thing to cover the breast and not give it away that they're a girl? (Sorry, I couldn't find a better way to word it) SuperfieldCreditUnion

[edit] Not an inside reference

Someone put that the strong sad person holding a cigarette is an inside reference to the other various instances of smoking. That is fundamentally flawed. TBC didn't make the picture, therefore its not a reference to anything. Is the desk that that girl homsar is sitting on an inside reference to desks? -Jdhannan 22:19, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

No, of course not. We don't have a page on desks. =3 --DorianGray 22:23, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

It isn't my fact to defend, and I normally don't like fan-created stuff to be considered references. It is, however, notable (here, in this context, not necessarily in the article) that Strong Bad said that the only inaccuracy in the picture was that Strong Sad had his arm around a woman (and Strong Sad's only objection had to do with his "ribs"). So, does Strong Sad smoke?? OptimisticFool 00:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I think Strong Bad was being sarcastic when he said everything else was spot on, to say that it's really a pretty terrible costume. Smoking, ribs, white nylon head, and SMILING?!?!? As for the issue at hand, I don't think the cigarette particularly noteworthy anywhere else but the transcript.--.Johnny Jupiter! ^talk _cont 22:38, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Interesting observation, but i think the reason they didn't mention it at all was to not draw attention to it. -Jdhannan 00:12, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Maybe we could just say it is an instance of smoking without saying it's necessarily referring to the other instances? Because it is a relative rarity that smoking is shown, so I think any appearance might be notable, TBC-made or not (this wasn't my fact either) 134.174.140.208 00:45, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't see any reason to bring mention to anything that TBC (deliberately) did not mention -Jdhannan 15:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] yello dello

does the yello dello(mistaken as marzipan by homestar) coustume looked photoshoped to anyone?

Not really... SuperfieldCreditUnion

Nope, her legs are really that fabulous. But white dorm walls and digital cameras can have a photoshop effect. Meltingemail 00:16, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I am called

Is strong bad's "my name is called 'Strong Bad' " a reference to something? It sounds familiar.134.174.140.208 00:45, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it's from his character video --Jnelson09 01:00, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Awexome apparently thought so, too, and added it to the page.. I think it's plausible. But then it got removed. Can we get a concensus over here? OptimisticFool 18:13, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I think it's quite a stretch. — Defender1031*Talk 18:14, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I do too. In his character video, he says "I am called Strong Bad", which is neither unusual nor ungrammatical. He does not say that his name is called Strong Bad. --Senorial Jay (Convolutions) 18:45, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I think the odd wording is actually a reference to Isaiah 9:6 in the Bible. "...and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

[edit] What kind of infant abuse?

I don't think Strong Bad was implying that dressing a baby in a Homestar costume is infant abuse; he was more likely referring to the fact that the baby's arms are missing, something he actually points out in the toon. --Trogga 20:02, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I think it's both. — Defender1031*Talk 20:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree. Trey56 21:18, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Agree that it's both or agree that it's the first thing? — Defender1031*Talk 21:20, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

That it's both. Trey56 21:32, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Either way, I'm with DeFender on this one. Of course he makes the remark about the baby's hidden arms, but the parallel to the "animal cruelty" lines in the last two Fan Costume specials is too strong to ignore. --Senorial Jay (Convolutions) 21:23, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

And I agree with the three of you that it refers to both. Heimstern Läufer 21:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Maybe if Strong Bad said "Ohh, that's infant abuse" instead of "I would like to report a severe case of infant abuse", I would probably agree that it refers to both, but that's just me. --Trogga 21:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Crack the Fourth Wall

Could Strong Bad's line about Crack Stuntman being a cartoon man in a cartoon show voicing another cartoon man be a reference to Crack being a cartoon character in his important rap songs, instead of to everybody being cartoon people, or am I stretching it? Bad Bad Guy 00:23, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm a little confused on what you mean, but I'm going to reply anyway. When Strong Bad says that, he's not speaking as Crack Stuntman, he's speaking as a college student dressed up as Crack Stuntman at a party, and he's trying to explain to the girl he's hitting on (supposedly in the real world) where his costume is from-- a cartoon. In the H*R universe, Crack Stuntman has never been shown as a real person, so the "real" Crack Stuntman is a cartoon, and that was actually him in the rap song video. So, to the girl, the frat boy would be describing fiction within fiction, not fiction within fiction within fiction.

Did any of that make sense?--.Johnny Jupiter! ^talk _cont 22:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

It's breaking the fourth wall by referencing someone as a cartoon character. SuperfieldCreditUnion

[edit] Hygene Reference

When Strong Bad says "ring-a-ding-ding" he uses his Gene voice.

Hmm. That's just his normal voice when talking in a sarcastic tone. Not a reference to hygiene. Nope. 71.231.56.40 19:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the first guy. (Note:Please sign your talk page posts!) It sounded a lot like Gene. SuperfieldCreditUnion

Actually, I'd go with "both". He's mocking the "gentleman Strong Bad" and the "good posture trolley" with a sarcastically proper, gentlemanly voice, which comes out sounding like Gene. When in doubt, go with both. --DorianGray 19:46, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree with DorianGray. He uses a similiar, but not identical, voice in modeling, specifically when he says "I'm charming".--.Johnny Jupiter! ^talk _cont 23:02, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Nice noticing that! Oh, and, DorianGray, you use two apostrophes to make something italic, not quotation marks. SuperfieldCreditUnion