Template talk:toonnav

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[edit] Reverse order?

Quick question: I noticed that in 500 The Cheats, the nav goes: "Back to Strong Bad Sings, Forward to Strong Bad is a Bad Guy." Shouldn't the order be reversed, so that the nav goes forward to the newer toon? If all the toons are using the nav this way, the nav template itself could be edited to resolve the problem. —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 19:09, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I think editing the template itself is a bad idea. The variables should be in numerical order from left to right. — It's dot com 19:11, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I personally don't think it's much of a big deal. Bluebry 19:17, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I fixed all of the Toons, then - now the order goes older -> newer. —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 19:24, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Grood! I'm going to figure out a way to stop the Strong Bad Sings thing. Bluebry 19:25, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

To "stop" it? —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 19:29, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. You know, how it has no where else to go than Strong Bad Sings? Bluebry 19:30, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

DONE! Look at 500 The Cheats now. Bluebry 19:33, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

The way that the issue with end toons was solved by linking to these in a circular fashion: first links to last, last links to first. This is how the SBEmails are linked to. When new toons/emails arrive they have to be re-linked properly, but it's not a big endeavour, and only one nav template is needed for the whole ordeal. My guess is when the new short came, the links weren't redone properly. --Stux 19:42, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Actually, all of the main Toons appear to have been done in reverse-chrono order. I took it upon myself to fix that, so they're in chrono order now (older -> newer). —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 19:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

For those who want to know the correct order for this:

1. the "next" link of next-newest toon will point to the newest (it used to point to the oldest)
2. the new toon points to the next-newest and the oldest as well
3. the oldest toon now points to the newest toon as its new previous.

Hopes that helps! And thanks for setting them in chrono order KieferSkunk! --Stux 19:46, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

No problem! I don't have time to do the Holiday Toons at the moment - can tackle them in a couple of hours after I get back from a lunch meeting. —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 19:48, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Edit conflict from comment below Okay, the recent changes are flooded, and all the holiday toons are in oldest->newest chronological order. Thanks Dot com for the edit conflict on the last one ;) As an comment on what Dot com mentioned about editing the template: yes editing the template is generally a bad idea: not only do the changes have to propagate, doing so will affect all the pages used by it and so while you'd be "fixing" many of the toons, others that would be in the correct order would then be "backwards", and not only that the definition of the template would be changed and people would have to learn a "new standard", so yeah usually not a good idea. :) --Stux 20:16, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Ah, cool - thanks for taking care of that. :) —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 21:25, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] An Alternative

Wouldn't it have just been easier to switch around {{{1}}} and {{{2}}} on the template? Actually, it's too late now isn't it... :/ —Gafaddict (Talk | Contribs.) 20:15, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Hey Gafaddict, see comment above for reasoning why not to do so. --Stux 20:16, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category

The recent change to this template has put every page it appears on in Category:Toons, including Strong Bad Emails and other such things. This should not be so. (It even says so at the top of the category's description.) The category is meant to group together big toons alone. Other types of cartoons have their own categories (Category:Shorts, Category:Holiday Toons, etc.), and should not be lumped in together as a general dumping ground. Please to be fixing this, because I don't know how, aside from removing the category entirely. --DorianGray 20:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll look into this... but first I need to get a grasp on how the categories are used at this wiki. In the meanwhile, I'd say removing the category from the templates is a good idea, until we can get them to work how they're supposed to. LobStoR 21:25, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

It would be best if the template changes you've made (globally) duplicate 100% of each template's original functionality first, then further modifications can be made. It is the best way to implement frameworks without causing too much chaos in an existing system. --Stux 21:48, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

It did duplicate functionality. It was my mistake of also adding the category to each template, owing mainly to a lack of familiarity with HRWiki norms. I am browsing through the wiki to better understand the community norms here. LobStoR 22:07, 6 April 2009 (UTC)