Editing Talk:Secret Pages

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==Page of Unknown Origin==

I found this page in my favorites, definitely bookmarked LONG AGO, but I do not know how ''I'' found it, and cannot find anything about it here on the wiki. It's some kind of Homestarrunner-made page. [http://www.homestarrunner.com/mywedpage.html My Wedpage]. Could someone please say what this is all about? 
-Ed  11:00, August 6 2006
:See [[Homestar's Website]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 15:27, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

== Secret Pages with their own pages ==

I just removed four external links to secret pages that have their own articles: [[Not the 100th Email!!!]], [[website]], [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and [[Email Processing Room]].  After doing so, I started thinking it might be worth our while to have some of the other pages that are linked to from here to have their own page.  I mean, some of those old intros and stuff could use screenshots and better descriptions.  So instead of a page with mostly external links, we would have a page with links to individual wiki pages about each secret page.  How's that sound?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 10:20, 8 Dec 2004 (MST)

Hmm... Sounds interesting. I just made a page for "Sing Along". Some of this stuff doesn't lend itself to wiki pages particularly well, though. I suppose the previews could go on the pages that they are previewing ("Reddest Raddish" preview on the "Reddest Raddish" page), but what about stuff like "Wireless Bizness?" That doesn't need a wiki page all to itself, does it? -FatPamPam

:I think it would be easy enough to judge what could use a page.  And I've added [[Sing Along]] to a new [[:Category:Secret Pages]] category.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:34, 19 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Wireless Thingy ==

The old Wireless Bizness thing is not working anymore.  Does someone have the transcripts for those emails?
- [[User:The Brothers E|The Brothers E]]

I've been looking for the exact same thing for a while now. I've been on Homestar for a while and I was around while it was up. I remember it being hysterical. The only one I remember from it was the Salty Plum Soda one from stu that later became the rollover button on the toons page. I REALLY want someone to find this. [[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:25, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

Yeah!  There was another one where he was trying help some guy out with the ladies, and his advice was basically, get a lot of money and cars, or switch to dudes.  Is anyone else looking for this?

Yes I am. FIND IT, OR I WILL RAVAGE THE UNIVERSE!!!!!! Muhahahahaha. I er, um...<sub>suppose.</sub> --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 23:39, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== SB Sign Explanation? ==

Might the "i am awesomer than you" Strong Bad "sign" actually be Strong Bad's "sign"ature on the Message Bored? Because the rules for the board imply that the characters, or at least Strong Bad, post. And it certainly seems like something Strong Bad would use on a message board.

== Wonder Years ==

Where did this page ever come from?  It's in the "/sadjournal" folder.

:You might want to check out the [[Strong Sad's Lament]] and [[The Secrets That I Keep]] pages.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:47, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Can't Find Marzipan Answering Machine Message ==

So I've gone through all of the Marzipan answering machine messages, and I can't find one that I remember from a while back -- a prank of Strong Bad imitating Homestar Runner, saying that he'd accidentally killed someone and he needs Marzipan to meet him and bring a bunch of towels and plastic trash bags and shovels. Anyone know where I can find this little gem? Hi-larious.
*That's in [[Where's The Cheat?]] &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:33, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Halloween 01 ==

While I was searching for the swf file for Homestarloween (tto lazy to go to the wiki page), I tried going to "halloween01.swf", and I got [http://www.homestarrunner.com/halloween01.swf this]. Is this already up here and I just can't find it, or can I add it? And what is Coach Z dressed as? Pom Pom, too (no pun intended...though I think it's "the Skipper too"...no pun intended). --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]]
: I can't get it to work right now (dang those secret pages!) but I believe I've seen it before. I even have a picture of it on my computer. Basically, it's the entire cast minus Homsar in their 2001 Halloween costumes - almost. Pom Pom seems to be Gilligan's Skipper, and Coach Z is a Noid (an old pizza commercial mascot). --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:16, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Marzipan is also dressed like Velma from Scooby-Doo. The chheat has a different shirt too. I wonder where The KOT's moustache went? For some reason, that bouncing dot thing on the Poopsmith's costume (on the chest of his "armor" is moving up and down and back and forth. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:39, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:The bouncing dot is the LEDs from the Lazer Tag game. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:47, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== King of Town ==

Does anyone know anything about http://homestarrunner.com/mainking.html
:[[King of Town Main Page|Yes]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:58, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== If I ran the camera ==

I was just poking around the Wayback Machine and I found [http://web.archive.org/web/20021112210701/homestarrunner.com/ifiranthecamera this]. It doesn't seem to be on the current site and my computer is weird about some of the wayback archives. Can anybody get it to work? --'''[[user:mibluvr13|<span style="color: #6600FF">mibluvr13</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:mibluvr13|<span style="color: #9999FF">dígame</span>]]</sup>''' 15:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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== Secret Buying Link ==

Hey guys. I found a sorta sercet page. Here's a link.
[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/heythanks.html] I found it when I was buying the new dvd. --[[Special:Randompage|Random man]] 22:38, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

We have seen it before, but good find.  {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:See [[Talk:Store#Hey Thanks]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:43, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Sucky treats costumes? ==

"www.homestarrunner.com/halloween01.swf" does not exist anymore.. you get a 404'd error.. is there a mirror somewhere? if not.. someone should make one and relink it.. or something.

:Works for me. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:07, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::See [[Halloween Costumes#The House That Gave Sucky Treats (2001)]].  And the link works fine for me as well.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:08, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::No, i mean the hidden costumes page? the one that Coach Z is the Noid, and Marzipan is Velma from scooby doo.. the costumes are on that page, but not the flash file. Its linked from Secret pages, but (on my computer anyway?) its a 404'd.[[User:Collin|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Collin|Collin]] 04:12, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::Most of the time secret pages are 404'd.  Just try again at a later date.  {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 04:14, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::I'm talking about [http://www.homestarrunner.com/halloween01.swf http://www.homestarrunner.com/halloween01.swf], the Flash file you linked to.  It works fine for me.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:16, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::Oh.. well i guess i'm just retarded then.. thanx though. [[User:Collin|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Collin|Collin]] 04:31, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

By the way, there's a very similar conversation to this one just [[#Halloween 01|a few sections up]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:25, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::hahahha i just get more retarded as this conversation continues.. maybe i should do soemething about this..  [[User:Collin|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Collin|Collin]] 04:21, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Wow. I was looking for that file on the Wiki a while back. Couldn't find it (guess it was in 404 mode at the time, as I remember a "Halloween" page acting oddly...) Actually, I had the picture saved to disk for reasons that I no longer remember, and conveniently made the pictures on the Costumes page from that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:48, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== A mirror for the secret pages' files ==

I think we all agree that the old SWF files that we link to on this page do not work from time to time. I propose that Tom upload some (if not all) of these files to the wiki's mirror. Now that the forum is being hosted elsewhere (hats off to the kind individual from ''HomestarRules''), increased bandwidth usage as a result of the mirror isn't an issue. These files, in all likelihood, are on TBC's site indefinately. When/if these files finally go the way of "A Jumping Jack Contest" and "Marshmallow's Last Stand" (albeit for different reasons) it will/would be nice to have a mirror firmly in place. I am not proposing a removal of the current link(s) to the secret page under "External Links". Rather, an additional link for those people who get 404'd on occasion. Comments? {{User:The Paper/sig}} 05:27, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I agree.. it would be nice to have both links in the secrets page, like Main page and Mirror.. you could put some sort of note at the top that says the mirror is there for if the pages don't work. And i'm sure the mirror wouldn't get too much bandwidth abuse since the original files are on the website, its only like backup. And if the pages do ever go on permanent haitus then its no biggie since they're on the hrwiki right? --[[User:Collin|Collin]] 05:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Secret? ==

I was just browsing around archive.org and found [http://web.archive.org/web/20010129043500/http://homestarrunner.com/broncoend.html this]. The intersting part of the scourse  says <pre><TITLE>Play Again</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgcolor="#000000">
<!-- URL's used in the movie-->
<A HREF=broncotrolleys.html></A> <!-- text used in the movie-->
<!--homestar is still  very hungry! try to do better! GO! --><center><OBJECT classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
 codebase="http://active.macromedia.com/flash2/cabs/swflash.cab#version=4,0,0,0"
 ID=broncoend WIDTH=550 HEIGHT=400>
 <PARAM NAME=movie VALUE="broncoend.swf"> <PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high> <PARAM NAME=bgcolor VALUE=#FFFFFF> <EMBED src="broncoend.swf" quality=high bgcolor=#FFFFFF  WIDTH=550 HEIGHT=400 TYPE="application/x-shockwave-flash" PLUGINSPAGE="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"></EMBED>
</OBJECT></center>
</BODY></pre>
It seems to be connected to [[Bronco Trolleys]]. Probably a "Game Over" screen. --[[User:81.230.154.89|81.230.154.89]] 16:35, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Scary Cake? ==

What happens when you click on the cherry from the Matt Cake page? From past experience, I think I'm a bit afraid to. Can anyone tell me?
:There's not much to it; you just see this other face appear in front of the "cake face". Oh, and sign your posts. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 07:03, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

::That's the face of Dennis Franz, in case you were wondering.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:09, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

== Cleanup ==
This page isn't very organised. It's in six categories, but within those categories, they're just a mess. They're just strewen about in the order they were added. It needs to be cleaned up. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

:See also [[#Secret Pages with their own pages]] as a possibility.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:26, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

== Possible Secret Pages ==

I was browsing for images from Homestar Runner.com on Google Image Search and I found:

http://www.homestarrunner.com/amazon.html - its like a fake Amazon.com page.

http://www.homestarrunner.com/weenstuff/weenstuff1.html to http://www.homestarrunner.com/weenstuff/weenstuff40.html - although there might be a link to these, it is in museum format.

http://www.homestarrunner.com/weeklies/fanstuff_pic.jpg - this is a pic used as current weekly fanstuff, it is updated with the flash file because it actually isn't changed, just the picture and the text are (this is mentioned on the weekly fanstuff article). For some strange reason, the page it is supposed to be on redirects to http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Weekly_Fanstuff

pictures such as http://www.homestarrunner.com/costumes03.html are apparently from Fan Costume Commentary, however these are 404'd, so they are probably no-longer on the site.

[http://www.homestarrunner.com/hsbackground.jpg] - who knows?

http://www.homestarrunner.com/hsstamp.gif - the stamp used in the e-mail page.

nearly forgot to add my signature - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 06:01, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

:Bookazon.com/Bookazon.egg: linked to from [[studying]]
:weenstuff1 through 40: already linked (I think)
:hsbackground.jpg: the background for [[Homestar's Website]]
::Not sure about the others. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 09:12, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Cool Tapes, it's always good to know stuff - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:21, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

I did my homework and here is what i found out: the stamp is on the old e-mail updates page, but was re-used in the current e-mails page. I guess I know why nobody pointed that out, they all thought I knew - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 08:50, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

== Cleanup Idea ==

For cleaning this up, would it be helpful if we made it a gallery, like the [[Toons]] page? For this that have no music, we could upload a graphic saying "NO IMAGE AVAILABLE". This is just my idea. I don't see much fodder on this page to get started with, so I'll clean it up if I know what we need. -[[User:AtionSong|<font face="BankGothic Md BT">AtionSong</font>]] 17:26, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
:Here's my suggestion:
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Screenshot!! Name !! Description !! External Links
|-
|[[Image:games menu 2001.png|100px]] || '''[[Third Games Menu]]''' || One of the old game menus. || [[HR:games.swf|View the Flash file]]
|}
:I think that would work really well. A re-order would be nice, too. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:40, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
::Good idea. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 16:39, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
Also, I don't think we should do the same format for the toon previews. It would take up too much space and would just not be worth it. Perhaps we could put links to the previews to all the toons individually instead of taking up the space here. -[[User:AtionSong|<font face="BankGothic Md BT">AtionSong</font>]] 00:58, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:::True that. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:34, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Yes, I would argue about those being a secret page, as you can actually see them every time you mouseover a toon. I'd suggest moving them to the external links section of the corresponding toon. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:01, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Yes, I guess they're not secret pages. Otherwise it could be arguesd that (nearly?) all flash files are Secret Pages, as the only links on the site are the .html pages. -[[User:AtionSong|<font face="BankGothic Md BT">AtionSong</font>]] 15:22, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Sounds good to me, a bit of additional external linkage never hurt nobody. Since somebody's already deleted them, I'm gonna go ahead and get the links out of the page archive, and add them to their respective pages. Ooooor, should they go to just the [[Toons]] page? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:37, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::I'd say both, if possible. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:49, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::''Or'' they could have their own page, with descriptions for each one. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:53, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::A seperate page, I think is a bit excessive. Perhaps both might be the best way to go. Just add an extra column to the tables [[Toons|here]], and then external linkage on all of them. Any objections? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:55, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::First table's [[Toons|done]]. Hows that look? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:10, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::I don't see why they should be added to the toon pages themselves. The three links we currently have (HTML, Flash, and Forum) are links that people actually need. I myself click on them all the time. The link to the Flash file of the Toons menu would be pointless. Since they're a part of the Toons menu, a list of them there would be appropriate. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:18, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::I'm fine with it on the Toons page. Carry on. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}
::::::::::What if "preview" was the ''last'' column? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:29, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:Wow The page looks great! If you don't mind I have taken the liberty to remove the cleanup tag. If you feel there's more to do, please say so and feel free to place it there again.  Joshua, IRF, et. al., you've done a superb job! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:55, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

== Fan Costumes ==
Does someone have a mirror of the fan costumes secret page? The link seems to be down for good... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:[http://web.archive.org/web/20041019030433/http://www.homestarrunner.com/costumes01.html].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:44, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
::That's not exactly a mirror, and it's only one page... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:15, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

:::The pages were all exactly like that.  The image would be shown, and a flash file would play [[Strong Bad]]'s comment.  If I remember correctly, the Fash file also contained "next" and "prev" buttons.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:46, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I remember it. It was just like the toon except with those buttons and Strong Bad didn't talk. I was just wondering if we had an exact working mirror for new users. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:53, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

::::The SWF file does not load correctly from the archive. And so it's features cannot be seen. However, it might be possible to get the SWF from the mirror (if they have it) download the HTML and play both together from your hard drive. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:52, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::It seems the archive did not save the SFW file as I cannot find it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:54, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::I have the SWF file if you need it. Shoot me an email if you would like me to send it your way. tpaper AT gmail dot com. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 04:57, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks! I just sent out the email.  However, the main reason I asked was to see if there's a way it could be hosted locally on the hrwiki mirror.  Though I don't know if we have all the necessary files... --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::::I sent it to you and to [[User:Tom|Tom]]. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 02:13, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::I got the file thanks! It works great! However, there is one um... not so slight problem: it seems that there is a separate swf file for each picture. i.e. costumes02.swf ... costumes11.swf (along with their HTML and jpegs of course). The archive only seems to have the html pages (except maybe 9) and jpegs 1,4, and 7. Do you, by any chance... have everything else? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:56, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

== Two Questions: ==

I have two questions:
#Where did [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&oldid=205808#Previews these] go?
#and why do they not appear on [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=206299&oldid=206289 this diff] which is the last one where they appeared. at.
#These preview SWFs are all valid links if they've simply been removed. However [[User:Invisible_Robot_Fish|IRF]] did point out something important: the links to this page were originally meant to be for stuff that could NOT be linked to or seen from anywhere unless you type in the URL yourself. This page has many links to SWF's and other things that are actually part of many easter eggs or navigation features.  If we restrict our criteria to the original intent most of this page would be gone. I think that we should create a separate page that lists all of these files (such as the preview SWF's above) that are visible SWF features in and of themselves ''(I used to think it was "in it of themlseves")'' but do not have their own HTML "frontend". (Or are special in some sense). Such links would indeed have a place in the encyclopedic nature of this wiki.
#As a side note, the [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#XML|Stinkoman XML files]] could be [[Stinkoman_20X6_Source_Files|linked to]] from here (and perhaps their XML sources be copied for those who don't know how to see xml sources and are curious). 
--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:05, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:To answer your main question, the toon previews were moved [[Toons|here]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:09, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::Where did the holiday and puppet previews go, then? They're not on the list. Also, the list could use some standardising... Some put it in the last column, some put it in the second... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::The list is still a work in progress, and is unfinished. The Holiday and Puppet previews still need to be added. Also, at first they were put in the second column, but then it was decided that the last column looks better so they were switched over. So some of them still need to be added, and some need to be switched to the last column. <small>And I really have to get off this wiki and finish my homework.</small> - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:54, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Homework? What's that!? ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:17, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm still curious to know why this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=206299&oldid=206289 diff] does not show the removal of the items. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:35, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

:You want the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=206442&oldid=206299 next diff].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:16, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks! I see it now! I wish I had checked it earlier.  OH! I see the problem now. It still baffled me why the incongruency between the diff and the time the change actually took place. Between [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=prev&oldid=206299 these] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=next&oldid=206299 two] diffs, the earlier reflect the visual removal in the text but not the diff, whereas the latter finally shows the actualy removal in the code. I had not seen that that section I was looking at had been commented out(like this: <code><nowiki><!-- --></nowiki></code>) and thought there might be some bug in the diff system.  Again, thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:25, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

== one of these things is not like the others ==

since my correction was already reverted I will take my concerns here:

In my opinions the following items '''do not belong''' as secret pages.  They are easter eggs... clickable from normal toons.  They are not hidden URLs that you would have to know about like all the others on this page.

*50 cake
*Seriously! 
*Virus'd QoD
*Virus'd Fanstuff  
*Virus'd Sketchbook 
*The Sweet Cuppin' Cakes buddy icons 
{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:11, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:But to see them ''seperately'', you would have to know some special URL. That's the key, I thinks. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::The place for them is not on this page, its on the individual toon in which they were egged, (which they already are).  Eggs just don't belong as secret pages. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:24, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::As long as they're in a seperate section from the other things (''Site Components'') I'm fine with them here. Yes, you can see them, but they pages they are on are secret pages. (The content isn't secret, but the page is.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:43, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

:::I see nothing wrong with having a collection or list of these (as I pointed out in the discussion above this one). Joshua and Dorian are right, the URLs they reside on are secret.  We ''could'' still differentiate them in the way I deliniated above.  --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:15, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::They ''are already'' differentiated. They have their own category. [[Secret Pages#Site Components]] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:24, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::I didn't even see the above convesation, they are pretty much the same topic. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:38, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

== Site Components ... You can't have it both ways ==

Ok I'm trying to appease those that want some of these site components here on the secret pages, but you can't it both ways.

The following are item that are easily and can be clicked on:
50 cake 
Seriously! 
Virus'd QoD 
Virus'd Fanstuff 
Virus'd Sketchbook 
The Sweet Cuppin' Cakes buddy icons 

I tried to have them removed but was overruled.

Now items that are equally clickable but bring up seperate pages are the items I've just added.

Either allow them all or delete them all.  Personally, I think that they all should be removed as non of them are secret. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:32, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

:Hi IRF, I looked at the entries that were removed and here's the distinction I could make: the ones that you added had html pages that were linked to the museum and their flash components were linked directly from the HTML page.  All of these entries already have their own page and link to the flash file itself like all other toon pages.  The links posted in the site components page are different. These are actually ''flash files within flash files'', for which you can't simply open the flash file look at its source and examine the URL of its components.  These are special flash files used as components of the main flash files in question.  I hope that clears up your questions. (As a side note, and per my suggestions above, these should probably have their own separate page). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:46, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

::Both have the same format, a new window pops-up without an address bar from clicking on a flash file. They are both flash within a flash.  The only difference is one is moving toon, and the other is a static menu. I still hold that either they all go or they all stay. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:26, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
:::It's twue. [/homestar] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:35, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::Then they should either all stay or be moved to their own page. Deleting interesting content (that's even been here a while) is not a good practice. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:50, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::: (EDIT CONFLICT'D! Ow, my point!) Actually, that's true only of the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes stuff, which is also the only item I'd seriously consider dropping. "Seriously" is separate from the wallpapers and everything else appears in the same window. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:54, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::: Also, I forgot to say: not having an address bar does not stop you from seeing the URL or viewing the source... if you know where to look (try right-clicking outside the 'toon itself.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:57, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::::'''Edit Conflict''' Ok I see what you mean now.  I hadn't yet looked at the museum flash file, just the flash linked from the wiki page (ugh habits ... habits).  You're absolutely right! They are flash components in the same way as the ones listed currently on site components. More specifically, some are shown as flash-within-flash (like the pom-pom first flash, the story of pom-pom, and the now-listed Seriously! egg), others open a new page (like original games menu, the original characters page, and the "Making out" easter egg in virus). On that standard, yes they should be on that page too! But they are not as secret. Again, I don't think it is useful to ''simply delete'' these components.  A better home might be a [[Site Components]] page. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:58, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::::On another note, isle of pom, biz cas fri, tennis, etc all have their own html "cradle pages", the Virus Qod, etc. do ''not'' have such a page. More to the point: like Jay said, having an html cradled page does not preclude you from finding the flash source file, however you do not have that luxury with an in-line flash file without the use of an expensive decompiler. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:01, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

== SuperBrave ==

The mirrored links aren't working. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:39, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== How did you find those pages? ==

How do you people find all the secret pages on H*R? I really would like to know, so I can find a secret page or two on another website I'm a fan of.

:Yeah, I've always been wondering about that, too. Whoever knows, tell us! Wait, you mean like, the index of files, right? {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 01:27, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

::That's exactly what I mean! Like, an index. if the index isn't normally found on the site, is there some way to access it? I really want to know!

:::please? Some help? I really need this info!

::::It is not possible to do what you ask.  These pages were found through old links or by looking through the code of other files.&nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:26, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::And a little luck didn't hurt. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:30, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::So... if I know a file exists, but I dont know the URL, can I find it?

:::::: Is this a specific situation? If it is, please give more info. -[[User:AtionSong|<font face="BankGothic Md BT">AtionSong</font>]]
::::::: EvilTrailMix.com had two secret mp3's on it, but when they were discovered, the files were renamed. Is there any way to find them again?

:::::::: Try [http://www.archive.org/web/web.php this site]. -[[User:AtionSong|<font face="BankGothic Md BT">AtionSong</font>]] 13:37, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I tried. I can't find anything. So, there's no way to get into the Parent Directory of a website? ...And if there is, how? {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 15:36, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

== Retirement? ==

Do you think we should add the links to "retirement A" and "retirement B" mirrors to the list? - [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]
:I was thinking the same thing. [[User:24.48.189.235|24.48.189.235]] 01:38, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
::They aren't secret pages because they are no longer on the site.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:02, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Marshmallow's Last Stand, Jumping Jack Contest - these were once on the site and have been removed, but they are listed. And Where The Crap Are We was never on the site at all. I think the criterion which has been used here (for right or wrong) is whether someone visiting the site would not know these pages exist or existed. That sort of secret. By that definition, the two parts of retirement might qualify. But, the question then is, do we want to use that definition of secret pages or not? And if we don't, what do we use, and do some things on the page have to go as a result? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:33, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Hmmm, deleted pages aren't really secret. I would interpret "secret" like "it's here, but you can only see it if you know where to look". Deleted toons have more of a "meh, we got rid of it"-style flavour.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:02, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::MLA and JJC as well as Where the Crap are listed on [[Toons#Special Cartoons|Toons]] under "Not On The Site". So If they are not on the site, they are not secret pages, as secret pages can be revealed. We only have them because they are mirrored on our server. So I think they should be removed. As for retirement A & B, they should be noted similarly on the [[Strong Bad Email]] page. Maybe make a sub header for "Not On The Site" and list them with the DVD emails. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:09, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

::::::I think it may be time to add another section to this page to cover RA, RB, JJC, MLS, etc. Or create a page for "removed toons" or something of the ilk. [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&#39;s Teh C]] 13:03, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I think it's fine to have all not-normally-accessed toons conveniently here on one page. This is where people would first look for these things. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:09, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Infact, yeah. I can see this "removed toons" section. but they should also be noted on the SBE page. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:43, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
I was thinking about putting in either under "Removed From the Site" or "Alternate Versions of Toons." --[[User:Young Roy|Y. Roy]] 15:17, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
:"Alternate Versions of Toons" works for me. It's technically what it is. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 03:22, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
::I put it up and it's still there, but does anyone fear I opened a floodgate that might lead to the original, removed versions of caffiene and Potion-ma-jig appearing there? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::If you guys want them back the best thing to do would be to divide "Alternate Versions of Toons" into two sections stating somehow whether or not they are still on the site. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

== Stuff ==

[http://www.homestarrunner.com/stuff1.html Stuff] just a suggestion.
:This is an old version of the [[Fan Stuff]] from the Museum. Although, yes, technically it is a secret page now... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Premium Spoof ==

I was looking for the Premium version of Homestar Runner page on here, which my roommate found once on accident, but I don't remember what the URL is.  Has anyone else seen this? It's a "tour" of all the great benifits of what you get when you sign up to pay for the "full" version of H*R. At the end it asked for a credit card number, if I remember correctly.
:That sounds like [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. Not actually a secret page. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Fan Costumes - broken link ==

In '''Fan Costumes''' row, the links are all broken now.  I'm not sure what the appropriate change in linkage should be.  {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 21:26, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

== Poop Smoke ==

Why is it Poop Smoke and not Poot Smoke?  its Poot-Slap, not Poop-Slap.  Do TBC name it somewhere even tho the song is apparently "secret"? --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 23:37, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, they did. Have a look at the actual download link.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:49, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

== Kick The Cheat game ==

Why doesn't the Kick The Cheat game count as a secret page?  And can I delete the Processing Room since it can be found in that Easter Egg from website? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 04:29, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

== Flash Store ==

Since no one replied to my last message, I'll try to broaden it here.  Why isn't the flash store a secret page?  And why must Email Processing Room count if it can be accessed via [[website]]? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 04:57, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

== Desktop Themes ==

Does anyone know what file those need to be saved to? I've tried all the different locations I can think of, and finally just had to settle for installing each icon and sound individually.

-a mouse

== Homestar's Yearbook ==

Let me start off by saying that I know that this is complete speculation that may not deserve to be part of the article.  Does it seem likely that Homestar's Yearbook was meant to be an alternate heading for Strong Bad's Message Bored? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:46, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

== Spin 'n' Say? ==

Should we add the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/spinandsay2.html original version of Spin 'n' Say?]
-[[User:Cool Tapes.exe|Cool Tapes.exe]]
:It's visible if you push "edit," but everyone else says it should not be visible until everything is worked out between Harmless Junk/TBC and Mattel. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:12, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

== Secret Pages Pages ==

I tried making a page for Matt Cake, but I can't seem to get enough info for any of these. I think it would be a good idea to make a page for each category and have each toon as a headline. Any thoughts? {{User:DNA Evidence/sig}}

:I don't see how that (seven secret pages articles) would be any better than the current single article that collectively addresses all of the secret pages quite well.  Do note however that [[#Secret Pages with their own pages|there are some individual items]] that have separate articles that do just fine.&nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:55, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

== Divide Toons from Shorts. ==

Hi. I've noticed that some of the Toons are short enough to be Shorts, and some others could be Holiday toons as well. Should we divide them into more sespific categories?