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[edit] Homestarrunner Drawn in Crayon

Thats not a secret page, you can get to it by going to the downloads page.

[edit] Page of Unknown Origin

I found this page in my favorites, definitely bookmarked LONG AGO, but I do not know how I found it, and cannot find anything about it here on the wiki. It's some kind of Homestarrunner-made page. My Wedpage. Could someone please say what this is all about? -Ed 11:00, August 6 2006

See Homestar's Website. --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif 15:27, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Secret Pages with their own pages

I just removed four external links to secret pages that have their own articles: Not the 100th Email!!!, website, Strong Sad's Lament, and Email Processing Room. After doing so, I started thinking it might be worth our while to have some of the other pages that are linked to from here to have their own page. I mean, some of those old intros and stuff could use screenshots and better descriptions. So instead of a page with mostly external links, we would have a page with links to individual wiki pages about each secret page. How's that sound? -- Tom 10:20, 8 Dec 2004 (MST)

Hmm... Sounds interesting. I just made a page for "Sing Along". Some of this stuff doesn't lend itself to wiki pages particularly well, though. I suppose the previews could go on the pages that they are previewing ("Reddest Raddish" preview on the "Reddest Raddish" page), but what about stuff like "Wireless Bizness?" That doesn't need a wiki page all to itself, does it? -FatPamPam

I think it would be easy enough to judge what could use a page. And I've added Sing Along to a new Category:Secret Pages category. -- Tom 17:34, 19 Dec 2004 (MST)

[edit] Wireless Thingy

The old Wireless Bizness thing is not working anymore. Does someone have the transcripts for those emails? - The Brothers E

I've been looking for the exact same thing for a while now. I've been on Homestar for a while and I was around while it was up. I remember it being hysterical. The only one I remember from it was the Salty Plum Soda one from stu that later became the rollover button on the toons page. I REALLY want someone to find this. evin290 18:25, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

Yeah! There was another one where he was trying help some guy out with the ladies, and his advice was basically, get a lot of money and cars, or switch to dudes. Is anyone else looking for this?

Yes I am. FIND IT, OR I WILL RAVAGE THE UNIVERSE!!!!!! Muhahahahaha. I er, um...suppose. --—Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 23:39, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

[edit] SB Sign Explanation?

Might the "i am awesomer than you" Strong Bad "sign" actually be Strong Bad's "sign"ature on the Message Bored? Because the rules for the board imply that the characters, or at least Strong Bad, post. And it certainly seems like something Strong Bad would use on a message board.

[edit] Wonder Years

Where did this page ever come from? It's in the "/sadjournal" folder.

You might want to check out the Strong Sad's Lament and The Secrets That I Keep pages. -- Tom 22:47, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

[edit] Can't Find Marzipan Answering Machine Message

So I've gone through all of the Marzipan answering machine messages, and I can't find one that I remember from a while back -- a prank of Strong Bad imitating Homestar Runner, saying that he'd accidentally killed someone and he needs Marzipan to meet him and bring a bunch of towels and plastic trash bags and shovels. Anyone know where I can find this little gem? Hi-larious.

[edit] Halloween 01

While I was searching for the swf file for Homestarloween (tto lazy to go to the wiki page), I tried going to "halloween01.swf", and I got this. Is this already up here and I just can't find it, or can I add it? And what is Coach Z dressed as? Pom Pom, too (no pun intended...though I think it's "the Skipper too" pun intended). --VolatileChemical

I can't get it to work right now (dang those secret pages!) but I believe I've seen it before. I even have a picture of it on my computer. Basically, it's the entire cast minus Homsar in their 2001 Halloween costumes - almost. Pom Pom seems to be Gilligan's Skipper, and Coach Z is a Noid (an old pizza commercial mascot). --Jay 17:16, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Marzipan is also dressed like Velma from Scooby-Doo. The chheat has a different shirt too. I wonder where The KOT's moustache went? For some reason, that bouncing dot thing on the Poopsmith's costume (on the chest of his "armor" is moving up and down and back and forth. --—Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 22:39, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

The bouncing dot is the LEDs from the Lazer Tag game. — It's dot com 22:47, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

[edit] King of Town

Does anyone know anything about

Yes --phlip 09:58, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] If I ran the camera

I was just poking around the Wayback Machine and I found this. It doesn't seem to be on the current site and my computer is weird about some of the wayback archives. Can anybody get it to work? --mibluvr13dígame 15:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This discussion has been moved to Talk:If I Ran the Camera.

[edit] Secret Buying Link

Hey guys. I found a sorta sercet page. Here's a link. [1] I found it when I was buying the new dvd. --Random man 22:38, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

We have seen it before, but good find. Rogue Leader / (my talk)

See Talk:Store#Hey Thanks. -- Tom 22:43, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sucky treats costumes?

"" does not exist anymore.. you get a 404'd error.. is there a mirror somewhere? if not.. someone should make one and relink it.. or something.

Works for me. —BazookaJoe 04:07, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
See Halloween Costumes#The House That Gave Sucky Treats (2001). And the link works fine for me as well. -- Tom 04:08, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
No, i mean the hidden costumes page? the one that Coach Z is the Noid, and Marzipan is Velma from scooby doo.. the costumes are on that page, but not the flash file. Its linked from Secret pages, but (on my computer anyway?) its a 404'd. -- Collin 04:12, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Most of the time secret pages are 404'd. Just try again at a later date. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 04:14, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I'm talking about, the Flash file you linked to. It works fine for me. -- Tom 04:16, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Oh.. well i guess i'm just retarded then.. thanx though. -- Collin 04:31, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

By the way, there's a very similar conversation to this one just a few sections up. — It's dot com 04:25, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

hahahha i just get more retarded as this conversation continues.. maybe i should do soemething about this.. -- Collin 04:21, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Wow. I was looking for that file on the Wiki a while back. Couldn't find it (guess it was in 404 mode at the time, as I remember a "Halloween" page acting oddly...) Actually, I had the picture saved to disk for reasons that I no longer remember, and conveniently made the pictures on the Costumes page from that. --Jay (Talk) 04:48, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A mirror for the secret pages' files

I think we all agree that the old SWF files that we link to on this page do not work from time to time. I propose that Tom upload some (if not all) of these files to the wiki's mirror. Now that the forum is being hosted elsewhere (hats off to the kind individual from HomestarRules), increased bandwidth usage as a result of the mirror isn't an issue. These files, in all likelihood, are on TBC's site indefinately. When/if these files finally go the way of "A Jumping Jack Contest" and "Marshmallow's Last Stand" (albeit for different reasons) it will/would be nice to have a mirror firmly in place. I am not proposing a removal of the current link(s) to the secret page under "External Links". Rather, an additional link for those people who get 404'd on occasion. Comments? —THE PAPER PREEEOW 05:27, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I agree.. it would be nice to have both links in the secrets page, like Main page and Mirror.. you could put some sort of note at the top that says the mirror is there for if the pages don't work. And i'm sure the mirror wouldn't get too much bandwidth abuse since the original files are on the website, its only like backup. And if the pages do ever go on permanent haitus then its no biggie since they're on the hrwiki right? --Collin 05:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Secret?

I was just browsing around and found this. The intersting part of the scourse says
<TITLE>Play Again</TITLE>
<BODY bgcolor="#000000">
<!-- URL's used in the movie-->
<A HREF=broncotrolleys.html></A> <!-- text used in the movie-->
<!--homestar is still  very hungry! try to do better! GO! --><center><OBJECT classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
 ID=broncoend WIDTH=550 HEIGHT=400>
 <PARAM NAME=movie VALUE="broncoend.swf"> <PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high> <PARAM NAME=bgcolor VALUE=#FFFFFF> <EMBED src="broncoend.swf" quality=high bgcolor=#FFFFFF  WIDTH=550 HEIGHT=400 TYPE="application/x-shockwave-flash" PLUGINSPAGE=""></EMBED>

It seems to be connected to Bronco Trolleys. Probably a "Game Over" screen. -- 16:35, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Scary Cake?

What happens when you click on the cherry from the Matt Cake page? From past experience, I think I'm a bit afraid to. Can anyone tell me?

There's not much to it; you just see this other face appear in front of the "cake face". Oh, and sign your posts. Heimstern Läufer 07:03, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
That's the face of Dennis Franz, in case you were wondering. -- Tom 07:09, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

This page isn't very organised. It's in six categories, but within those categories, they're just a mess. They're just strewen about in the order they were added. It needs to be cleaned up. -- Super Sam 12:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

See also #Secret Pages with their own pages as a possibility. -- Tom 20:26, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Possible Secret Pages

I was browsing for images from Homestar on Google Image Search and I found: - its like a fake page. to - although there might be a link to these, it is in museum format.

fanstuff_pic.jpg - this is a pic used as current weekly fanstuff, it is updated with the flash file because it actually isn't changed, just the picture and the text are (this is mentioned on the weekly fanstuff article). For some strange reason, the page it is supposed to be on redirects to

pictures such as are apparently from Fan Costume Commentary, however these are 404'd, so they are probably no-longer on the site.

[2] - who knows?

hsstamp.gif - the stamp used in the e-mail page.

nearly forgot to add my signature - Volbeat A The Cheat 06:01, 22 November 2005 (UTC) linked to from studying
weenstuff1 through 40: already linked (I think)
hsbackground.jpg: the background for Homestar's Website
Not sure about the others. --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif 09:12, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Cool Tapes, it's always good to know stuff - Volbeat A The Cheat 10:21, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

I did my homework and here is what i found out: the stamp is on the old e-mail updates page, but was re-used in the current e-mails page. I guess I know why nobody pointed that out, they all thought I knew - Volbeat A The Cheat 08:50, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup Idea

For cleaning this up, would it be helpful if we made it a gallery, like the Toons page? For this that have no music, we could upload a graphic saying "NO IMAGE AVAILABLE". This is just my idea. I don't see much fodder on this page to get started with, so I'll clean it up if I know what we need. -AtionSong 17:26, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Here's my suggestion:
Screenshot Name Description External Links
Third Games Menu One of the old game menus. View the Flash file
I think that would work really well. A re-order would be nice, too. - Joshua 17:40, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
Good idea. — talk Bubsty edits 16:39, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Also, I don't think we should do the same format for the toon previews. It would take up too much space and would just not be worth it. Perhaps we could put links to the previews to all the toons individually instead of taking up the space here. -AtionSong 00:58, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

True that. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 09:34, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Yes, I would argue about those being a secret page, as you can actually see them every time you mouseover a toon. I'd suggest moving them to the external links section of the corresponding toon. - Joshua 13:01, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Yes, I guess they're not secret pages. Otherwise it could be arguesd that (nearly?) all flash files are Secret Pages, as the only links on the site are the .html pages. -AtionSong 15:22, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Sounds good to me, a bit of additional external linkage never hurt nobody. Since somebody's already deleted them, I'm gonna go ahead and get the links out of the page archive, and add them to their respective pages. Ooooor, should they go to just the Toons page? Thunderbird 23:37, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
I'd say both, if possible. - Joshua 23:49, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Or they could have their own page, with descriptions for each one. - Joshua 23:53, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
A seperate page, I think is a bit excessive. Perhaps both might be the best way to go. Just add an extra column to the tables here, and then external linkage on all of them. Any objections? Thunderbird 23:55, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
First table's done. Hows that look? Thunderbird 00:10, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
I don't see why they should be added to the toon pages themselves. The three links we currently have (HTML, Flash, and Forum) are links that people actually need. I myself click on them all the time. The link to the Flash file of the Toons menu would be pointless. Since they're a part of the Toons menu, a list of them there would be appropriate. — It's dot com 00:18, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm fine with it on the Toons page. Carry on. - Joshua
What if "preview" was the last column? — It's dot com 00:29, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
Wow The page looks great! If you don't mind I have taken the liberty to remove the cleanup tag. If you feel there's more to do, please say so and feel free to place it there again. Joshua, IRF, et. al., you've done a superb job! --Stux 22:55, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fan Costumes

Does someone have a mirror of the fan costumes secret page? The link seems to be down for good... - Joshua 22:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

[3]. -- Tom 03:44, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
That's not exactly a mirror, and it's only one page... - Joshua 15:15, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
The pages were all exactly like that. The image would be shown, and a flash file would play Strong Bad's comment. If I remember correctly, the Fash file also contained "next" and "prev" buttons. -- Tom 18:46, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I remember it. It was just like the toon except with those buttons and Strong Bad didn't talk. I was just wondering if we had an exact working mirror for new users. - Joshua 18:53, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
The SWF file does not load correctly from the archive. And so it's features cannot be seen. However, it might be possible to get the SWF from the mirror (if they have it) download the HTML and play both together from your hard drive. --Stux 18:52, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
It seems the archive did not save the SFW file as I cannot find it. --Stux 18:54, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
I have the SWF file if you need it. Shoot me an email if you would like me to send it your way. tpaper AT gmail dot com. —THE PAPER PREEEOW 04:57, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! I just sent out the email. However, the main reason I asked was to see if there's a way it could be hosted locally on the hrwiki mirror. Though I don't know if we have all the necessary files... --Stux 06:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
I sent it to you and to Tom. —THE PAPER PREEEOW 02:13, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
I got the file thanks! It works great! However, there is one um... not so slight problem: it seems that there is a separate swf file for each picture. i.e. costumes02.swf ... costumes11.swf (along with their HTML and jpegs of course). The archive only seems to have the html pages (except maybe 9) and jpegs 1,4, and 7. Do you, by any chance... have everything else? --Stux 02:56, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Sorry for bumping, but is it safe to remove it? It's the only page here that never ever worked for me. Bad Bad Guy 04:21, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two Questions:

I have two questions:

  1. Where did these go?
  2. and why do they not appear on this diff which is the last one where they appeared. at.
  3. These preview SWFs are all valid links if they've simply been removed. However IRF did point out something important: the links to this page were originally meant to be for stuff that could NOT be linked to or seen from anywhere unless you type in the URL yourself. This page has many links to SWF's and other things that are actually part of many easter eggs or navigation features. If we restrict our criteria to the original intent most of this page would be gone. I think that we should create a separate page that lists all of these files (such as the preview SWF's above) that are visible SWF features in and of themselves (I used to think it was "in it of themlseves") but do not have their own HTML "frontend". (Or are special in some sense). Such links would indeed have a place in the encyclopedic nature of this wiki.
  4. As a side note, the Stinkoman XML files could be linked to from here (and perhaps their XML sources be copied for those who don't know how to see xml sources and are curious).

--Stux 16:05, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

To answer your main question, the toon previews were moved here. - Joshua 16:09, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Where did the holiday and puppet previews go, then? They're not on the list. Also, the list could use some standardising... Some put it in the last column, some put it in the second... --DorianGray
The list is still a work in progress, and is unfinished. The Holiday and Puppet previews still need to be added. Also, at first they were put in the second column, but then it was decided that the last column looks better so they were switched over. So some of them still need to be added, and some need to be switched to the last column. And I really have to get off this wiki and finish my homework. - Joshua 17:54, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Homework? What's that!? ;) --Stux 18:17, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm still curious to know why this diff does not show the removal of the items. --Stux 07:35, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

You want the next diff. -- Tom 18:16, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! I see it now! I wish I had checked it earlier. OH! I see the problem now. It still baffled me why the incongruency between the diff and the time the change actually took place. Between these two diffs, the earlier reflect the visual removal in the text but not the diff, whereas the latter finally shows the actualy removal in the code. I had not seen that that section I was looking at had been commented out(like this: <!-- -->) and thought there might be some bug in the diff system. Again, thanks! --Stux 19:25, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] one of these things is not like the others

since my correction was already reverted I will take my concerns here:

In my opinions the following items do not belong as secret pages. They are easter eggs... clickable from normal toons. They are not hidden URLs that you would have to know about like all the others on this page.

  • 50 cake
  • Seriously!
  • Virus'd QoD
  • Virus'd Fanstuff
  • Virus'd Sketchbook
  • The Sweet Cuppin' Cakes buddy icons

I R F 17:11, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

But to see them seperately, you would have to know some special URL. That's the key, I thinks. --DorianGray
The place for them is not on this page, its on the individual toon in which they were egged, (which they already are). Eggs just don't belong as secret pages. I R F 17:24, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
As long as they're in a seperate section from the other things (Site Components) I'm fine with them here. Yes, you can see them, but they pages they are on are secret pages. (The content isn't secret, but the page is.) - Joshua 17:43, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
I see nothing wrong with having a collection or list of these (as I pointed out in the discussion above this one). Joshua and Dorian are right, the URLs they reside on are secret. We could still differentiate them in the way I deliniated above. --Stux 18:15, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
They are already differentiated. They have their own category. Secret Pages#Site Components - Joshua 18:24, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
I didn't even see the above convesation, they are pretty much the same topic. I R F 18:38, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Site Components ... You can't have it both ways

Ok I'm trying to appease those that want some of these site components here on the secret pages, but you can't it both ways.

The following are item that are easily and can be clicked on: 50 cake Seriously! Virus'd QoD Virus'd Fanstuff Virus'd Sketchbook The Sweet Cuppin' Cakes buddy icons

I tried to have them removed but was overruled.

Now items that are equally clickable but bring up seperate pages are the items I've just added.

Either allow them all or delete them all. Personally, I think that they all should be removed as non of them are secret. I R F 15:32, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi IRF, I looked at the entries that were removed and here's the distinction I could make: the ones that you added had html pages that were linked to the museum and their flash components were linked directly from the HTML page. All of these entries already have their own page and link to the flash file itself like all other toon pages. The links posted in the site components page are different. These are actually flash files within flash files, for which you can't simply open the flash file look at its source and examine the URL of its components. These are special flash files used as components of the main flash files in question. I hope that clears up your questions. (As a side note, and per my suggestions above, these should probably have their own separate page). --Stux 15:46, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Both have the same format, a new window pops-up without an address bar from clicking on a flash file. They are both flash within a flash. The only difference is one is moving toon, and the other is a static menu. I still hold that either they all go or they all stay. I R F 16:26, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
It's twue. [/homestar] - Joshua 16:35, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Then they should either all stay or be moved to their own page. Deleting interesting content (that's even been here a while) is not a good practice. — It's dot com 16:50, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
(EDIT CONFLICT'D! Ow, my point!) Actually, that's true only of the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes stuff, which is also the only item I'd seriously consider dropping. "Seriously" is separate from the wallpapers and everything else appears in the same window. --Jay (Talk) 16:54, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Also, I forgot to say: not having an address bar does not stop you from seeing the URL or viewing the source... if you know where to look (try right-clicking outside the 'toon itself.) --Jay (Talk) 16:57, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Edit Conflict Ok I see what you mean now. I hadn't yet looked at the museum flash file, just the flash linked from the wiki page (ugh habits ... habits). You're absolutely right! They are flash components in the same way as the ones listed currently on site components. More specifically, some are shown as flash-within-flash (like the pom-pom first flash, the story of pom-pom, and the now-listed Seriously! egg), others open a new page (like original games menu, the original characters page, and the "Making out" easter egg in virus). On that standard, yes they should be on that page too! But they are not as secret. Again, I don't think it is useful to simply delete these components. A better home might be a Site Components page. --Stux 16:58, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
On another note, isle of pom, biz cas fri, tennis, etc all have their own html "cradle pages", the Virus Qod, etc. do not have such a page. More to the point: like Jay said, having an html cradled page does not preclude you from finding the flash source file, however you do not have that luxury with an in-line flash file without the use of an expensive decompiler. --Stux 17:01, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] SuperBrave

The mirrored links aren't working. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 23:39, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How did you find those pages?

How do you people find all the secret pages on H*R? I really would like to know, so I can find a secret page or two on another website I'm a fan of.

Yeah, I've always been wondering about that, too. Whoever knows, tell us! Wait, you mean like, the index of files, right? H * R 7 0 0 01:27, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
That's exactly what I mean! Like, an index. if the index isn't normally found on the site, is there some way to access it? I really want to know!
please? Some help? I really need this info!
It is not possible to do what you ask. These pages were found through old links or by looking through the code of other files. -- Tom 02:26, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
And a little luck didn't hurt. — It's dot com 02:30, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
So... if I know a file exists, but I dont know the URL, can I find it?
Is this a specific situation? If it is, please give more info. -AtionSong had two secret mp3's on it, but when they were discovered, the files were renamed. Is there any way to find them again?
Try this site. -AtionSong 13:37, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
I tried. I can't find anything. So, there's no way to get into the Parent Directory of a website? ...And if there is, how? H * R 7 0 0 15:36, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Retirement?

Do you think we should add the links to "retirement A" and "retirement B" mirrors to the list? - Young Roy

I was thinking the same thing. 01:38, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
They aren't secret pages because they are no longer on the site. Loafing 02:02, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Marshmallow's Last Stand, Jumping Jack Contest - these were once on the site and have been removed, but they are listed. And Where The Crap Are We was never on the site at all. I think the criterion which has been used here (for right or wrong) is whether someone visiting the site would not know these pages exist or existed. That sort of secret. By that definition, the two parts of retirement might qualify. But, the question then is, do we want to use that definition of secret pages or not? And if we don't, what do we use, and do some things on the page have to go as a result? Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 02:33, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm, deleted pages aren't really secret. I would interpret "secret" like "it's here, but you can only see it if you know where to look". Deleted toons have more of a "meh, we got rid of it"-style flavour. Loafing 02:02, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
MLA and JJC as well as Where the Crap are listed on Toons under "Not On The Site". So If they are not on the site, they are not secret pages, as secret pages can be revealed. We only have them because they are mirrored on our server. So I think they should be removed. As for retirement A & B, they should be noted similarly on the Strong Bad Email page. Maybe make a sub header for "Not On The Site" and list them with the DVD emails. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 09:09, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
I think it may be time to add another section to this page to cover RA, RB, JJC, MLS, etc. Or create a page for "removed toons" or something of the ilk. Ilko Skevüld's Teh C 13:03, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
I think it's fine to have all not-normally-accessed toons conveniently here on one page. This is where people would first look for these things. - Joshua 14:09, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Infact, yeah. I can see this "removed toons" section. but they should also be noted on the SBE page. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 14:43, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking about putting in either under "Removed From the Site" or "Alternate Versions of Toons." --Y. Roy 15:17, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

"Alternate Versions of Toons" works for me. It's technically what it is. - Joshua 03:22, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I put it up and it's still there, but does anyone fear I opened a floodgate that might lead to the original, removed versions of caffiene and Potion-ma-jig appearing there? Bad Bad Guy 15:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
If you guys want them back the best thing to do would be to divide "Alternate Versions of Toons" into two sections stating somehow whether or not they are still on the site. Bad Bad Guy 02:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stuff

Stuff just a suggestion.

This is an old version of the Fan Stuff from the Museum. Although, yes, technically it is a secret page now... --DorianGray

[edit] Premium Spoof

I was looking for the Premium version of Homestar Runner page on here, which my roommate found once on accident, but I don't remember what the URL is. Has anyone else seen this? It's a "tour" of all the great benifits of what you get when you sign up to pay for the "full" version of H*R. At the end it asked for a credit card number, if I remember correctly.

That sounds like PAY PLUS!. Not actually a secret page. --DorianGray

[edit] Fan Costumes - broken link

In Fan Costumes row, the links are all broken now. I'm not sure what the appropriate change in linkage should be. I R F 21:26, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Poop Smoke

Why is it Poop Smoke and not Poot Smoke? its Poot-Slap, not Poop-Slap. Do TBC name it somewhere even tho the song is apparently "secret"? --JamesDean 23:37, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, they did. Have a look at the actual download link. Loafing 23:49, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kick The Cheat game

Why doesn't the Kick The Cheat game count as a secret page? And can I delete the Processing Room since it can be found in that Easter Egg from website? Bad Bad Guy 04:29, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flash Store

Since no one replied to my last message, I'll try to broaden it here. Why isn't the flash store a secret page? And why must Email Processing Room count if it can be accessed via website? Bad Bad Guy 04:57, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Desktop Themes

Does anyone know what file those need to be saved to? I've tried all the different locations I can think of, and finally just had to settle for installing each icon and sound individually.

-a mouse

[edit] Homestar's Yearbook

Let me start off by saying that I know that this is complete speculation that may not deserve to be part of the article. Does it seem likely that Homestar's Yearbook was meant to be an alternate heading for Strong Bad's Message Bored? Bad Bad Guy 02:46, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spin 'n' Say?

Should we add the original version of Spin 'n' Say? -Cool Tapes.exe

It's visible if you push "edit," but everyone else says it should not be visible until everything is worked out between Harmless Junk/TBC and Mattel. Bad Bad Guy 03:12, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

yah, thats because an image of spin and say isn't updated on the site. i don't know how, but if u do, please update it. slipknot6477 out.

Please don't. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 18:52, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

why Slipknot6477 (Talk | contribs) 13:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC) (left unsigned)

The Brothers Chaps said they didn't want it mentioned, so we should just not mention it at the moment. Homestar-Winner (talk) 13:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
If anyone (possibly a sysop) can explain this better, as much as allowed to say, that would be good. I'm confused about this also. Homestar-Winner (talk) 13:40, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Here is a post by It's dot com that fits pretty much any discussion regarding Who Said What Now?. Has Matt? (talk) 13:55, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Secret Pages Pages

I tried making a page for Matt Cake, but I can't seem to get enough info for any of these. I think it would be a good idea to make a page for each category and have each toon as a headline. Any thoughts? dna evidence(t · c)

I don't see how that (seven secret pages articles) would be any better than the current single article that collectively addresses all of the secret pages quite well. Do note however that there are some individual items that have separate articles that do just fine. -- Tom 16:55, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Divide Toons from Shorts.

Hi. I've noticed that some of the Toons are short enough to be Shorts, and some others could be Holiday toons as well. Should we divide them into more sespific categories?

'Sup. First off, are we talking about these toons? Because if so, these are all Toons, which include shorts, holiday toons, etc. We only mark toons holiday or shorts if And since they don't categorize these, we just leave them an uncategorized, generic brand (TM) toons. Bluebry 17:51, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please? I'm makin' a toon.

Could someone please make the songs available for download, please? I'm making a Homestar Runner fan cartoon and I need some sounds. Pointy King (Talk | contribs) 22:18, 12 June 2007 (UTC) (left unsigned)

Some links are on the Songs page, but we currently have no codified list of all downloadable songs as far as I know. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 02:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Say huh?! I coun't really understand whatchu said.

[edit] Blank Pages

I was just wondering if these pages were known about.

What does it matter? They are blank pages. Jibblejibblejibble 15:20, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Homestar Runner Glossy

I went by the naming convention in ppglossy and sbglossy, and discovered hsglossy. Or so I thought. :) I just did a Google search, and someone had already found it before. But I didn't see it in the wiki, so I added it. --AshyRaccoon 00:47, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Good find! Homestar-Winner (talk) 00:59, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Looooong page

Why don't we split this article into separate pages? Secret Pages would then present the user with the option to view specific groups of items without having to load the entire list of every secret page. If I haven't gotten my point across, Secret Pages could link to, say, Secret Toons, Secret Games, Secret Old Navigation, Secret Other Animations, Secret Downloads, Secret Music, Secret Images. Yes, no? OptimisticFool 20:19, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Personally, I don't think this page is that long. But for the sake of editing it, that is a good idea. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 23:50, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
I would be fine with keeping it together or splitting it up. The page is long, but it's not unbelievably long. I don't think that ease of editing has any bearing on whether the page should be split, since you can always click on the section edit links to effect the same thing. — It's dot com 14:53, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
You're right, it's not loooooooong, it's just looooong. But it's an ugly page. Lots of tables that don't line up, and by scrolling it's easy to miss where one section ends and a new one begins. I know Sysrq868 was ready to make this change "immediately" (see Talk:Matt Cake), so I'll let him know he can do the honors since there appear to be no complaints about splitting the page up. OptimisticFool 15:25, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
That's not what he said, and there's no consensus yet. Hold off. I personally think the page should stay as it is. — Defender1031*Talk 16:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
What's not what who said? And anyway, make your case; where's your rebuttal? OptimisticFool 17:21, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
What dot com said, and to have them all in one place makes sense, as they're the same thing. — Defender1031*Talk 17:22, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
I'll try to exercise patience, now that we actually have someone against the idea. I say "split it", Super Martyo Brother says "good idea", Sysrq868 says "I like the idea" (Talk:Matt Cake), It's dot com says he's "fine with [either]". So, yeah, you're the first one to say it "should stay as it is". OptimisticFool 17:35, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
DeFender1031: "They're the same thing" isn't really an excuse. We could merge all Strong Bad Emails, they're the same thing, right? And I'm not saying that it must be done, as this conversation started from the deletion discussion of Matt Cake. If we make each section their seperate page, we could fit the contents of the pages per secret item to those pages (although long lists are bad, a big bunch of micro-pages is even worse). If we keep this list on one page, we should also keep all the pages of the secret items. So: split and delete or leave everything as is, that's my opinion. --Sysrq868 18:19, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Split and delete the micro pages, yes. There aren't too many micro pages stemming from these secret pages, though. And that's not the reason I want it split. Appearance and usability are my biggest issues with it, it's ugly, it's long and I get lost scrolling through it. Anyway, I say a picture paints a thousand words. Why don't we create a point of comparison? In user space, create the separate pages. Then see what people think..? Can we do that? And Sysrq868, do you want to be the one to do that? OptimisticFool 19:40, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
That'd be my, like, first ever meaningful thing I've ever done on this wiki. If you really want to give me that honor, I'll go create a bunch of subpages under my username right away! --Sysrq868 19:47, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Can't wait to see it. OptimisticFool 19:49, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, here's a prototype: User:Sysrq868/Secret Pages. "Other Animations" is quite like what I had in mind. And also, the guiding page is to be polished. Any ideas, comments, suggestions? --Sysrq868 20:20, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

After more reflection, I lean toward keeping it all one page. Far from being too long, I think the page is actually easier to browse in one piece. Like all pages of some length, it has a table of contents that makes jumping to a specific section simple. I'm beginning to think splitting it would just require more clicking and less ease of viewing. Regardless of what happens, none of the pages linked from this page should be merged into a table; they should remain linked individual pages. — It's dot com 04:58, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

On the first point, I agree. This page is better all together, as the table of contents makes for easy navigation and allows all the related content to appear on one page (and it isn't really that long, I think). No opinion as yet about any merges. Heimstern Läufer 06:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
And when I say "none", I mean almost none. Most of the pages are too long to fit in a table, but there are one or two whose individual pages are nothing but a rehash of what's already in the on this page. — It's dot com 02:58, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm in favor of seperate pages. My computer is very old, and it takes a long time to load this one. (This and the characters page). I don't think it would be too hard to navigate through them. —Guard Duck talk 03:13, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Decemberween SBEMail Menu

The Decemberween SBEMail Menu resets itself after a while, removing the snow and the pop-up postcard. There's also a slight gap in the audio when it does it.

[edit] Can You Guesstimate Where This Belongs?

Should Jibblies 2 Teaser go under "Toons" or "Other Animations"? Bad Bad Guy 03:47, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Easter Egg Pages

We should create a section of pages that are easter eggs. -Get Dagger

[edit] Fan costumes embedded in Homsar Main Page

Does that do anything to have Fan Costume Commentary embedded into the source of the Homsar Main Page? I can't see anything that it could do. Homestar-Winner (talk) 03:18, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Store old page

I went on and found this. Where should I put it? He can't say job. Don't say jorb 101 Seriously, he can't say job!

[edit] WANTED!!!

What happened to the Wanted Poster of Strong Bad before Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon? Is it on another page?

It's on the page Site Components. Bad Bad Guy 23:13, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Taryn Game

I seriously think the Taryn game needs an article! I mean, think of all da other secret pages that have articles... 01:36, 19 February 2008 (UTC) EDIT: Also, should we mention it on the Death page too? 'Cause Taryn's picture breaks, which is similar to the Strong Bad egg from Eggs (toon), so if one of those is considered death, both of them should.

I Agree, but it shouldn't be on the death page, and eggs shouldn't be there either. _-Dr. S-_ 01:58, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] kitkorp

this is kinda a mueseum i found when i googled marshmallow's last stand. i took off marshmallow2.html off the end of the webpage and got it [4]

This isn't a secret page, merely someone who mirrored the site a long time ago. Might be worth putting on website sightings though — Defender1031*Talk 19:48, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] strongbad default

im just wondering what the strong default page is and why it exists. 19:21, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Not the 200th E-mail!

If you go to, there is a short toon featuring the Deleteheads, much like 'Not the 100th E-mail'.

Well, we do already have a page on it, but it should certainly be listed here, yes. --DorianGray 03:46, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] where is everything

where did everything below alternate versions of toons go _-Dr. S-_ 01:44, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Javaguy removed it for some reason. I'll fix it. Im a bell 00:05, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Done. Im a bell 00:08, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Banners?

I could have sworn there was a link somewhere here on banners that were at the least described as "to use as links to the site." Does anyone know where it went, or did I find them somewhere else where it was archived? -- 21:55, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

The page you're looking for is Banners and Buttons. --DorianGray 21:57, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you! -- 21:59, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
No problem. =) --DorianGray 22:00, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


I guess this should be mentioned somewhere. Coach 's Cool! 01:09, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Probably in the list of fan sites on the links page. — It's dot com 01:12, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Brand of Skin music video

This doesn't count as a current Secret Page, but a former secret page was found at, and can be seen here: .. it appears to be a music video for Brand of Skin by Folk Implosion. Nice 'n weird. This was originally mentioned at HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 25#videlectrix and thoraxcorp but never reached this article (I don't think). My adding this to this talk page is just to give it a little more visibility for those wanting to poke around and see old secret stuff. OptimisticFool 04:17, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Intro Duplicate

I think I know why the difference between the two is just 2 bytes. The regular intro is 95,528 bytes large. The duplicate is 95,530 bytes large. Maybe TBC was trying to round it off to 95,530 bytes? That'sBupkis! 23:54, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Rename Discussion

I think this might need a better name. - User:POM Z/My lil' sig 19:15, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Given that you have given neither a reason why the current name is insufficient, nor a suggestion as to what might be a better name, I'm inclined to disagree. — Defender1031*Talk 19:21, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Experimental Film

Anybody found this yet? I don't think it's linked to anywhere. 21:05, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

It's in the shorts section of the 'toons menu. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 21:12, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Because Experimental Film is not a secret page. --DorianGray 21:13, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Limozeen Short

hey, the zeen trailer on this page is the first anouncement, but that one is on the shorts page. there is onother on that IS a secert page, how about we switch them?

[edit] This

What is this? I don't think it's on this page. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 01:52, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

What the- What?! I've never seen this. Is it listed on the Yahoo Store page at least? That's very interesting. - Catjaz63 01:54, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
It is on this page, though, under "Marzipan Shirts". I verified that when I was making Homestar Offsite. -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 03:00, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

[edit] h - o - m - e is gone

h - o - m - e, that odd music video that used to be on the Videlectrix website, isn't there anymore, so it needs a mirror. Click here to retrieve it again.

[edit] YouTube mirrors

I'm just curious, but should the wiki start uploading some of these secret pages to YouTube, in preparation for a Flash-free world? Homestar-Winner (talk) 18:16, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Not sure about YouTube specifically, but it could be a good idea to upload these as video files when Flash becomes defunct. It'd be even better if it were in an HTML5-friendly vector-based format but I'm not sure if that'd be feasible for the wiki. DEI DAT VMdatvm center\super contra 13:18, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

[edit] Old Crap Corner

Given that the featured material will come and go, perhaps it should be given it's own section here to differentiate it from properly promoted material like Non-sequitur Championship Guybrush20X6 15:43, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

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