Editing Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 15

==Krakow!==
I think it is notable that the onomatopoeia "Krakow" is used, especially with that spelling.  While there is no direct mention of Poland (except for [[other days]]...), the linking with the Calvin & Hobbes strip makes it more plausible.  The coincidence of TBC using that particular spelling for an explosion is too great to ''not'' be reference to something. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 20:10, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
: Naw, it's just an onomatopoeia. The fact that "Krakow" is the capital of Poland in no way makes its appearance in this toon any more meaningful or funny. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:14, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::But i'd call the calvin reference plausible... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:23, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::: Not that one either. Calvin uses it as gunfire. TGS15 uses it as a thunderclap. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:28, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::::I don't know of specifics, but I'm reasonably certain I've heard "KRAKOW" as a thunder sound effect before this instance. Or something close, anyways. At the very least, it brings [[Wikipedia:Kracko|Kracko]] to mind. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:35, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:I think its likely that they did purposely use the sound effect Krakow knowing its a city in Poland as one of those meaningless references they do now and then. The Calvin & hobbes thing is a bit of stretch... I dont think TBC are specifically referring to C&H, theres no other connection to C&H except that they both happened to use "krakow" as a sound effect. I think its most likely that both TBC and C&H both happened to think that "krakow" sounds a lot like a sound. - [[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 00:12, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::Just for the record, Krakow is not the capital of Poland; Warsaw is. As for its significance, I was wondering that myself when I saw and 'scribed it. I have to say I think it's intentional; otherwise I can't see why they'd spell it that way (I think it'd be more like "crackow" otherwise), but how to mention that as a Fun Fact, if at all, I'm not at all sure. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:51, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I actually just saw a reference on TV Tropes mentioning a cartoon called "Krakow!". I ''still'' don't think that's a reference, but it's proof that it can refer to something other than Poland. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:31, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:::PS. And like Dorian above, I too know that I've heard it used as an onomatopoeia for thunder before this. Not everything has to be a reference. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:33, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:::: in defense of Del Taco above, Krakow is, in fact, a city in Poland.  He never said it is the current capitol, but it is a city in Poland. And in reference to the C&H strip [[http://picayune.uclick.com/comics/ch/1986/ch860428.gif]], it ''was'' the [[wikipedia:Krakow|capitol of Poland from 1038 to 1596]], so Calvin actually got something right, and Susie cheated!!! I think it's notable in the Real World section because it's a blatant use of onomatopoeia in similar fashion as Bill Watterson, as mentioned by Jay (I also immediately thought of that C&H strip when I heard it) [[User:Javaguy78|Javaguy78]] 15:36, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
::::: I have never heard this as a sound effect in anything but the most messed-up Trojan Horse comics, so I think it is notable. Not exactly sure about ol Calvin <strike>Klein</strike> and Hobbes, though.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 16:33, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::: I had added a different RWR last night about "Krakow!" being a reference to a boss character in the Kirby video game series, but it turns out that I was thinking of "Kracko".  My mistake. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:32, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::: Jellote: I ''have'' seen it used as a sound effect before. And there's nothing connecting this circumstance to Poland or Calvin & Hobbes besides the completely generic use of the "word". It's as much a reference as Harry Potter is to that allegedly terrible "Muggles of Rah" or whatever book. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:38, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Do you have an example of another time it's been used as a sound effect, Jay? -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.175|132.183.140.175]] 22:19, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

== Religious reference? ==

Was Arrow'd Guy supposed to be God right there? Is it notable? --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 21:47, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:No and No. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 21:33, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::Will you please explain why you disagree, NFITC1? {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 21:37, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes. The Arrowed Guy is supposed to be some kind of god-like, or high authority figure. The divine symbols are there - Being (or pretending to) being all-knowing, the echoing, coming from the sky behind a thunderstorm. But he's not the deity we refer to as God (the Biblical God). Also, I think that mentioning it in the fun facts, will be ruining the joke, since the divine symbols I mentioned are common knowledge. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:36, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
::::The Arrow'd guy does seem to have some god like reference, but nothing on an extremely religious scale. [[User:Origonalname]]
:::::It's possible that this scene may be a reference to a scene in ''Monty Python and the Holy Grail'', in which God appears in some clouds and tells King Arthur about his destiny and mission.  But it's not very clear and would probably be speculation without some additional confirmation from TBC. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:34, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::And as I noted in the same section, there weren't any running sparrow jokes in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. They were swallows. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Now that I'm actually looking at it I'm not sure why I was against it to begin with. I guess I originally put it in the category of fourth-wall breaks, but now that someone brought up the Monty Python/swallow thing I see the point. I retract previous statement. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 19:15, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== Greg Fuel? ==
Did anyone else think of Gay Fuel when the can of Greg Fuel was shown?  It was a big internet meme a couple years back among the nerdiest of nerds, so it might have a connection to the 4 Gregs. --[[User:Solcott|Solcott]] 21:51, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
: For being a "big internet meme", this is the first I've heard of it. Or am I not nerdy enough? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:57, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:: I should have probably said it was a "big internet meme" on the stupider parts of the internet, like YTMND and 4chan :-) --[[User:Solcott|Solcott]] 22:03, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::According to wikipedia, [[Wikipedia:Gay Fuel|Gay Fuel]] was, in fact, an [[Wikipedia:Category:Internet memes|internet meme]]. It's not enough to convince me that it is a reference, but he's right that it was one. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

== An Old Classic ==

Could "Sparrow'd" also reference the running gag about killing birds? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 22:02, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I think when they say an old classice. It's changing the arrow'd stuff. I wou;dn't say that the birds actually die, do they? [[User:Goodjorb|Goodjorb]]
::Goodjorb, the fact they don't die would be part of the twist.  The TGS birds have gone from being killed to doing the killing. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 00:08, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:::WOu;dn't that not be a killing bird gag but a bird gag in general? [[User:Goodjorb|Goodjorb]]

"Sparrow'd" may be a reference to "Sparrowed" meaning to "get drunk". Viz: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sparrowed -- [[User:Ch&#39;marr|Ch&#39;marr]] 16:09, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:That site is full of whatever crap anyone wants to add to it, and half of what's on there has no basis in fact. In fact, [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sparrowed?r=75 sparrowed] has absolutely no definition whatsoever. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:25, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:: And even if it ''did'' mean "to get drunk", that has no application to this toon, as no one gets drunk - certainly not What's Her Face, who's the one who gets SPARROW'D!! No, her "sparrowing" is extremely literal - it involves getting pelted with sparrows - and of course rhymes with "ARROWED!!" --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:30, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I just mentioned above (in the Religious Reference section) that I thought the scene with the Arrow'd Guy talking to So-and-So might have been a reference to a scene from ''Monty Python and the Holy Grail'', where God talks to King Arthur.  "Sparrow'd" adds some credibility to that train of thought in my opinion, since that movie has several running jokes about sparrows in it.  I'm starting to think that that's what that whole scene is referring to. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:38, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
: Kiefer, the running gag in Monty Python and the Holy Grail was ''swallows''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::Oh geez, you're right!  Second mistaken reference in as many days.  I'm losing my touch. :( {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

== Carboard ==
That's just how he talk, y'all biscuitheads. You don hatta say erry letter.
: Agreed, but it does sound like he says the 'd' in 'cardboard.' [[User:Durniel|Durniel]] 07:01, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
: Yea, Durnya'll, but he dan't say the d, ya'll biscuitheads.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 09:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::I agree with what I can understand from those messages. TBC probably spelt it that way on purpose. Y'all biscuitheads. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 22:03, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

== Cheerleader Cheerleader name ==

Could Cheerleader being referred to as "Cheerleader Cheerleader" be a real world reference to jokes similar to the Mario Bros. be referred to as "Mario Mario" etc? I'm sure the Mario gag isn't the only reference, just the only one I could think of (also more relevant in the HR universe as TBC are big Nintendo fans). [[Special:Contributions/173.11.82.162|173.11.82.162]] 18:00, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:No. Cheerleader is going to the prom with Cheerleader Brian, who is a male cheerleader called Brian, so So and So calls her Cheerleader Cheerleader because she is a female cheerleader called Cheerleader. It's a joke. No reference. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:39, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

== WTR? (What the Robot?) ==

When Japanese Culture Greg is Uncanny Valley'd, I noticed distinct wires in his inside. Does this mean <strike>Mrs. Crabbable</strike> he is an android too? --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 23:35, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:I noticed that too. Notable? {{User:Thy Not Dennis/sig}} 16:11, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:: It really doesn't look much like wires to me. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:26, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Nor me. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 22:49, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
::::They just look like intestines to me. If they were wires and he was a robot, he would have exploded or caught fire when he was shot with the freakishly large laser. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 01:52, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== TENERROW'D ==
Did anyone else notice that when TOMPKINS was TENERROW'D he had 'ten arrows' in him? I think this is intentional.
[[Special:Contributions/66.93.122.4|66.93.122.4]] 03:29, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
: Huh, interesting. The obvious pun was Tenerence + Arrow'd; I didn't even think to count them. Mind, you can see ten points, but not ten feathers. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:02, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
::Hm. Maybe it's a reference to that optical illusion, where there are more feathers than tips. {{User:Thy Not Dennis/sig}} 11:27, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Or it's a reference to the fact that Strong Bad is a poor artist, or the fact that Tompkins is turned part-way. Not everything is a reference! Stick to talking about the ten arrows in this subtopic. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:23, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
::::OK, well I don't think it's a reference, just a play on Tenerence's name. {{User:Thy Not Dennis/sig}} 20:24, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::What a convenient double meaning! Ever think it could be both? [[Special:Contributions/168.179.160.71|168.179.160.71]] 23:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::This is one of those rare cases where my opinion is, intentional or not, it's interesting enough to be notable. That said, i think it probably was intentional. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

== So and So ==

Two things about So and So here. I think that her face, when it changed, was styled with a Klingon forehead (no, not a reference to the new movie, but Star Trek in General) and this is another instance of her saying a word, it moving across the text baloon, and her stretching it out when said
:when I first saw that, I though she looked like someone from star trek. So I though it was because Sci-Fi Greg was her date. But he was not her date, Open Source Greg was. [[User:Origonalname112]]
:: So definitely a Star Trek reference, but not the new movie. At least, not specifically. Also, even if you are not logged in, please sign your posts. Your opinion will be more notable as an IP than as an annony. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 21:43, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

== Hit by cupid's sparrow==
Changing Arrow'd to Sparrow'd seems like a definite reference to what Michael Scott did in the office. "I was hit by cupid's sparrow! Funny little bird, but he gets the job done." Do Matt and Mike watch the office?
: I [[dan]]'t know about The Office or if the Chaps watch it, but I don't see how this refers to Cupid in any way. Not really a reference. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 21:43, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::I'm not saying it is a reference to cupid, i'm saying it is a reference to the office.
::: Oops, hey, no. Inturpreted that wrong. Yeah, sounds like a reference now. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 21:49, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Noticeable? i think something should be done about this!

== Remainder 3.3 repeating ==
Forgive me if I'm wrong... and I know we talked about this in the other discussion thread where Tenerrance Love says "My name is Tenerrance Love + My name is Tenerrance Love / My name is Tenerrance Love = My name is Tenerrance Love remainder 3." but I don't think you can possibly get a remainder that is not an integer. -Accountless avenger "Don't make me get an account!"
: Three things: It's noted, of course that is a reference and get an account. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 00:24, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::On the math side of things: Yes, you can get a non-integer remainder.  When you do an integer divide, you determine how many times your divisor can be multiplied to get as close as possible to the original number, then subtract that product from the original number to get the remainder.  It's not true division, however.
::So, int-divide 11<sup>1</sup>/<sub>3</sub> by 4, for example: 11.333333333 / 4 = 2, remainder 3.333333333 .  (2 x 4 = 8, which is closest to 11 without going over.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:56, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::: Uh... So much math... Can't think. But I jest you are right. It ''is'' possible. I never thought of using decimal dividens. So this fact is well disputed, but I think it is worth a mention that no integer whole number) can get a repeating remainder. '''Major Rewrite''' and '''weak keep'''.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 21:43, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Because of this (and I came to this page today to challenge this remark) I propose a re-write:
:::*A remainder 3.33 repeating is not possible in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer_division#Division_of_integers integer division], but can be achieved through [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer_division#Division_of_rational_numbers rational number division] although remainder of such a division is rarely expressed as the quotient will commonly be expressed as a simplified rational number.
:::So the 11.333333333 / 4 = 2, remainder 3.333333333 example will be commonly expressed as 11.3333333/4 which is an irrational number and will be simplified to 17/6. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 20:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)   PS: Math majors rule! :D

== Robo-ko ==

What evidence do we have that it's a reference to the exact model currently on the page? Japanese robotics labs have made numerous artificial human robots in recent times. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.175|132.183.140.175]] 20:56, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
: I see it as that robot. I remember seeing a robotics video once, and that model was the one I saw. '''Keep this fact'''.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 21:43, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

== Quirky Anime Voice ==

Stop me if someone pointed this out somewhere already, but the way J.C. Greg says "Chizuko" reminds me a lot of the way Strong Sad says "anime" in [[TrogdorCon '97]].  I'm not sure, but I think there's somewhere else where someone says some Japanese/Anime word in a quirky voice like that, too, but I can't remember where.  I think it should be pointed out somewhere, somehow.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 11:07, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== Ugly One Favoritism ==

In the last issue of TGS, Ugly One obtained the record for being the only sole survivor of an issue twice... we decided at the time to not give it a mention in the article, as we felt that this ratio would most certainly change in the future.  This issue marks her third time, so what about this now? Uggs is at least two up on all the other girls.  I don't see how it could hurt to mention she currently holds this record over the others.[[Special:Contributions/24.235.190.192|24.235.190.192]] 17:48, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

== Spirit Fingers? ==

Is Cheerleader Brian's "Spiiiriiiit!" hand movements/twitching a reference to ''Bring It On'' 's "Spirit Fingers" line?
--[[User:STRiPES|STRiPES]] 21:29, 11 June 2009 (UTC)