Editing Talk:Characters

== Questions ==

Okay. Rejects only has like 3 things to go in it, so does it get its own page? Also, in the "Who?" section, there are a whole lot of "characters", so that would get its own page....right? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 15:18, 16 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Hmm.  I'm looking at the page now...  Yeah, I don't know.  I don't think they need their own page if we are going to have the Cheat Commandos on this page too.  I know there's those bands there too.  We might want to do something with them.  Or at least adjust the section heading level.  And it sure seems like there's a lot on this page.  I think furrykef has something in mind though.  Whatcha up to, Kef?  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:48, 16 Aug 2004 (MST)

I don't really have anything in mind. I just wanted to get the stuff indexed to make it easier to tell what's missing. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] 09:14, 17 Aug 2004 (MST)

::Arg. Okay...personally, I like the smallerer pages. They're less...big...and ugly. I dunno though...it may look too sparse if we split up the thing into lotsa pages... -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 10:15, 17 Aug 2004 (MST)

I think the rejects page was a good idea for all those "grey-area" characters places and things. But it seems to have been destroyed. What happened to it, and how was that decided upon?
--[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

:Oops.  Please note that this conversation happened last August.  Currently there are no more rejects.  This was "decided upon" mostly [[User_talk:Tom#Re:%20Rejects%20cat|here]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:38, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)

==Pom Pom link==

Can I fix that Pom Pom link? it's buggin' the snot outta me. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 16:02, 19 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Yeah, go ahead, I don't know what was going on there.  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:20, 19 Aug 2004 (MST)

== Character page official format ==

We need to come up with one. There's a lot of variation between the several character pages. I haven't followed the format for the few I did recently, simply because I couldn't see what the format should've been. &mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 10:17, 24 Aug 2004 (MST)

:The format on [[Strong Bad]] and [[Homestar Runner]] seems fine to me. But I think we should limit each character page to one picture. -- [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 10:47, 24 Aug 2004 (MST)

::I kinda wanna just nuke the galleries, too. &mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 10:49, 24 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::You'll hear no complaints from me. -- [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 10:53, 24 Aug 2004 (MST)
I want to know what happened to the halloween costume lists :)  On the old wiki, each character had listed what they dressed up as each year for halloween.. It's been five years and TBC do not appear daunted in their love to painstakingly dress up the characters every year. Should the costume lists be added back on, nearby the 'aka' lists? [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 02:11, 31 Oct 2004 (MST)

As a followup, even the halloween toon pages lack a breakdown of who dressed up as what. If noone else feels up to it, let me know it's allowed and I'll add tasteful lists both to the characters' pages and the 'ween pages. [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 02:14, 31 Oct 2004 (MST)

== Stickly Man ==

Please discuss in [[Talk:Stickly Man]] before editing Stickly Man's status as the 20x6 Poopsmith.

== Brief descriptions? ==

I've added brief descriptions to the computers, similar to the links in the AKA section to the real characters represented by the 20x6 and 1936 crew.  Are the brief descriptions of the computer appropriate on this page, adding to the usefulness of the information; or should we be trying to keep the size and scope of index pages to a minimum? [[User:Render|Render]]

== Character Heights ==

In [[the facts]] Strong Bad's computer analysis reveals that Strong Mad is 88 inches tall and 88 inches wide.  Actually he's about 7.25% taller than he is wide.  Anyway, I did a height comparison for all the characters based on Strong Mad's height being 88 inches, using [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] as a reference.  Here's what I got:

<table>
<tr>
<td>Character</td><td>Height</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Strong Mad</td><td>7'4"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>The Cheat</td><td>3'0"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Marzipan</td><td>7'4"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>King of Town</td><td>5'0"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Coach Z</td><td>6'6"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Homestar</td><td>6'8"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Homsar</td><td>4'7"</td>
</tr>			
<tr>
<td>Poopsmith</td><td>7'5"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Pom Pom</td><td>7'7"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Strong Bad</td><td>5'5"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Strong Sad</td><td>6'6"</td>
</tr>
</table>

Anyway the numbers were a little disappointing, as Strong Bad was indicated to be less than 4'0" tall in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], so I wasn't really sure if there was any way to incorporate this information into the site.  I might run the numbers again using Strong Bad's height as 4'0" and see what I get.

:Interesting calculations.  I've dabbled in the height thing a bit myself.  Check out [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=12125#12125 the forum post].  Of course, I think it would be rather difficult to come up with anything definite.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:07, 30 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Another reference point for the character heights is that The Cheat is 1'2", as revealed in [[Where's The Cheat?]] --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 18:51, 17 Oct 2004 (MST)

:Don't forget that Pom Pom's ID says he is 6'2" [[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]

:The Cheat (sort of) puts Strong Mad as 6' in 'i she be'.

:Dude, you have way to much free time.  Get a hobby.

::Nah, kudos go out to whoever did this -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:46, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::This is his hobby.

:Awesome job, but why wasn't Bubs done as well? [[User:TheTylor|TheTylor]] 21:57, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

::You forgot Bubs :( --[[Special:Contributions/90.204.249.155|90.204.249.155]] 11:34, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

== Where my ideas reallly that bad? ==

What's wrong the Different Town and Virus sections?

Simply put, they were all only seen once. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:43, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:'''LOL''' we have a section for the Folky Tale characters, and they were seen only once. Isn't that a double standard? --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 14:49, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

::The ones for folky Tale are new characters. Virused and others alike are vriations and appear on [[Minor Character Variations]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:09, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

== Character Evolution ==

Shouldn't there be a link to each character's [[Character Evolution|Evolution]] on their character page? Seems like it should go in the bar at the bottom, but I don't know how to put it there. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

== Links in header lines ==

In my opinion, linking header lines is more convenient and less awkward than "[[Something]] is something something". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:07, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

== The Guys You Don't See Anymore ==

There are alot of old, un-named "characters" that have a one paragraph pages just for them. Can we just make a full, long page about all of those? they are [[Unnamed Girl]], [[Homeschool Winner]], [[The Unguraits]], [[Dijjery-Doo]], [[The Robot (storybook)]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand|the guys in the back of the arena]] and maybe [[Mr. Bland]] and [[Señor]] (as they appeared in [[flashback]]). We did it for [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters|Teen Girl Squad]] and [[The King Of Town's Food|The King of Town]]... [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 12:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
:Can someone please replay?? [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 05:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I agree, unnamed characters it is! [[User:Stongbah]]
::So I'm on it! [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 16:13, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Galleries==

Would it be feasable to add small 'gallary format' pictures beside some of the character categories, as seen on such pages as [[Toilets]] and [[The Cheat's Head Exploding]]? It might help in the quest to clean up this page a bit. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:39, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I tried it out on the Main Characters, and it seems the only problem might be people clicking on the pictures trying to reach the articles. Should we revert it and try something else, or do the same to the rest of the page? I'm voting for the latter. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:48, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::I think that looks fine.  Is there a way to make the pictures link to a page, or is that the only way?  But I really think it looks fine, I think if all of the other ones are like that, it would look alot cleaner--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 22:52, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::Me too, but I'm curious about the picture link. Does anyone know if it's possible to link to the page instead? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:53, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::There's a way to link the pictures, but there's a lot of coding involved.  I'm sure given time I could get it done if you want. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 22:54, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::::That would be excellent, or at least do the first one as a sample, and I'm sure somebody could copy the format for the rest. Then in that case, the only downside to the gallaries, would be this page is gonna get a bit longer. But all in all I think it's an improvement. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:57, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::::After some frustration and trial and error, I have found that the gallery format does '''not''' allow linking of images to separate pages.  This project would ionvolve uploading many new images and and placing them manually where they belong.  Myself being unable to work with images very well, I regret to inform you that my task cannot be completed as expected.  Sorry. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 23:09, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::::::That's okay, I think this will still work well. Thanks for the attempt. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:21, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I think the new gallery format looks outstanding! I reorganized the order just a bit, placing all the characters of the "real" universe before those in the "invented" universes (e.g. TGS and Cheat Commandos). Also, the Chaps have stated that Senor Cardgage is a real and separate character now, not just an alternate version of Strong Bad. Last, I moved bands and companies to a groups section, because they seemed to be taking up a lot of space without actually being characters. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:40, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Well, it look nice and all, but... I feel like a little child, you know? Not knowing how to read so I have to use pretty pictures to find out where I want to go. I think it made the page cluttered up and take longer to scroll. I don't hate it, but I'm not vary fond of it neither. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:38, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Well it can be interpreted that way, yes. But we still have to think of the anonys, those that come to learn a bit here and there. They might not all know all the names, that could be why they're here in the first place. Plus it's alot faster to find a certain character, you just scroll down quickly and watch for a glimpse of the guy you're looking for. The worst thing is that the pictures don't link to the articles. I'm thinking maybe if somebody goes through all the pictures, and insures that the summary includes a bolded link to the main article, this'll probably be a good thing. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 11:05, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::You'r right. For all the new ones it's all good. And tomorow after school maybe I'll start working on those links. I like gnoming :) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:30, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Half of the links are done. And you know what? I've take it to myself to caption correctly '''every freacking picture in the wiki'''! It would be long, it would be hard and maybe I'll need some help. but I can do it! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 04:03, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Why? What gain would that get us? Most of the captions are fine, thanks. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:12, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::I think it's a good idea. It'll allow us to search pictures more easily. Rock rock on. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 07:15, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Anybody else think [[TMBG]] need a different picture? Like, one that at least shows their entire faces? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:44, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Speaking of the galleries, I think that the 1936/2006/20X6 counterparts should be arranged in the same way, like having first the Homestar of the era, then the Strong Bad, then the The Cheat, and so on, especially for 1936, since all of the main characters but Homsar have counterparts there. 20X6 might be a bit difficult, at least until we find out whether or not 20X6 Coach Z and the Shadowy Figure are one in the same. [[User:Tom Temprotran|TTE]] 20:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

==Folk Tale World==
Should we really have all those Folk Tale World characters here? All of them except Saddy Dumpington link to the same page. We can move Saddy Dumpington to Other Alternates and the Folk Tale World page to Related Pages. -[[User:Lotionman|Lotionman]] 01:30, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)Lotionman
:Having the other characters fills out the section. Most of the secions are about 9&ndash;12 pictures big, and so even with all the Folk Tale World characters, this one's size is about par for the course. The point of all these galleries is to showcase all the various worlds and characters. The only reason we group things like minor Teen Girl Squad characters into one picture is that there's so many of them it would be ridiculous to try and show them all on this page. Also, even though the links for the Folk Tale characters mostly point to the same page, they don't all point to the same ''spot'' on that page. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:40, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==[[Little Girl]] Location==

I moved her from Misc. Characters to Site Contributers, along with Missy and Ryan. I think she fits in better there. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:58, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

:Good move, looks much better there.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:59, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

== Contributors ==

Is it appropriate for the Contributors to be in the characters page? Since they themselves are not necessarily characters (unless they were part of the Peasant's quest trailer, or Limozeen, in which case they should be referred to by their character names, not their real names).  I think this section deserves its own page. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:39, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

P.S. who is Ruby Red Productions? It is listed as a contributor. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:40, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:In a few days I want to be create a [[Contributors]] page and take aforementioned section there, and then link it from the Related Pages subsection.--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:14, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

== Minor Alternate Versions? ==

I'm wondering if some of the characters showing up in [[Characters#Other Alternates|Other Alternates]] should instead in be in [[Minor Alternate Versions]]?  With the exception of Strong Bad's made-up animals, I think virtually all of these qualify as Minor Alternates.  Anyone else agree? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:00, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

== Staff Characters ==
Listing Mike and Matt Chapman in the same page as Homestar and Strong Bad is... odd. They're staff, not actual H*R characters like the rest of 'em. Shouldn't real people who help H*R be listed on their own page? They aren't really "characters." - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:53, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, that is odd. But note that "Real Bands" is there too, along with Real Companies. Maybe the page title is no longer accurate? &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:12, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
::I mentioned the same thing a few comments above in the ''Contributors'' section. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:32, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Yes, but no one seemed to notice it, unfortunately. Anyway, we don't need to change this page's name; just move the contributers to the Contributors page Stux menionted earlier. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}
::::I'm guessing this sounds like some sort of consensus... --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:53, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Okay! it's been moved! Feel free to [[Contributors|check it out!]] No, seriously, feel free to [[Contributors|check it out!]]  I didn't modify it much, just pasted it in there, added categories, and spruced up header a bit.  Oh and I inserted a rather lackluster introduction to the page. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:12, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

== The Brothers Strong ==

The Brothers Strong Entry in the Organizations page has no link... this should link to something, where does it mention the Brothers Strong as being an origanization? Where's the picture from? (The picture links to [[caper]], it says that's where it's from, but that is all) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:46, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

==See Gee En Buisness==
In reply to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Characters&curid=930&diff=204185&oldid=204173 Stux], maybe CGNU hasn't been in "Fictional Companies" before now because educational institutions aren't companies (certainly not public ones). I'm not sure it should be taken off, though.
:Techincally... I think that yes they are companies... private universities are likely 501(c)3's (non-profit, is that the right #?) and public universities are usually considered independent governmental organizations in and of themselves... so I think they can be considered "companies"... ? (Universities can hold patents, make money, get sued, and can even have bad customer service!) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:23, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Hehe... you don't have to tell me about that last one! &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:43, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
==romans==
can someone please upload a picture of the "romans" from the sbemail "highschool"?

== Bear-Shark ==

Do we really need two bear-shark/"Bear holding a Shark" links on this page? Which one should stay? {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 06:42, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I SWARE I saw BearShark on Space Ghost Coast to Coast.

== Separate characters and character videos ==

I think that the Character Video should be on their own pages, not on the same page as their character. Thoughts? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 22:27, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:I dunno. The videos don't really take up that much space, and they are descriptive of each character. Why make people have to click through? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:30, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

::Because they're really different objects, one is a toon and one is a character. It just bothers me. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 16:57, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I would like to open this back up, mainly because I just saw the Marzipan article recieve the "Toons with Dialogue Alternatives" category. Characters should not go in toon categories, but that's the only way we can do this now. I still don't understand why we have character videos on character pages. Every single other video and snippet of flash on H*R gets a separate page except the character videos. I mean, if click-through was a problem we'd have all the Decemberween in July shorts on one page, for example. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 18:42, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

:I would be okay with all the character video transcripts being on a single page, but I don't think they should each have a separate page if they're taken off of the characters' articles. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:41, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

::Why shouldn't they each have a separate page? We certainly have shorter and more useless pages than a character video transcript. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:06, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

:::To my mind, they're all part of the same feature: [[HR:characters2.html]]. Also, I guess if you're reading the transcript for one, you might be wanting to reading the transcript for some of the other ones, and this makes that easier.

:::However, I do see the advantage of each having its own page: it's easier to use {{tl|Film}} for each of the characters' filmographies. And, if we use some navigation templates, it won't be hard to find the other ones.

:::Either way, the more I think about it, I feel that it would be good to take the transcripts off the characters' main articles. I remember the first time I was trying to find one: it took me a while, and when I found it I was a little confused about why it was on there. We can still put prominent links on those pages to the separate article(s) for the character videos, and it might make the transcripts easier to find. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:15, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

:I'm surprised action hasn't been taken on this. Would there be objections to me (or anyone) starting to make individual character pages later on? --[[User:TimMierz|TimMierz]] 19:56, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

::Well there is [[Character Video Transcripts]] and ongoing [[Talk:Character_Video_Transcripts|discussion]] about it there. [[Special:Contributions/64.198.255.1|64.198.255.1]] 20:16, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

== Template ==

I barely notice the "'''DOmicile: House'''" "'''Debut:''' Debut". So, here's an idea for a template for all main characters:
{{clear}}
{| border=0 align=right cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 width=250 class="toccolours" style="float: right; clear: both; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 90%;" 
|+<big>'''{{{character_name}}}'''</big>
|-
| align=center colspan=2 | [[Image:{{{image}}}|100px]]
|- valign=top
! Domicile
| [[{{{domicile}}}]]
|- valign=top
! Debut
| [[{{{debut}}}]]
|- valign=top
!
| [[:Category:{{{character_name}}} Filmography|Complete Filmography]]
|}
{{clear}}
Yes, it was tekn from [[Template:Infobox Band]]. Here's an example of <nowiki>{{Template name|character_name=Homestar Runner|domicile=Homestar's House|debut=Original Book|"The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest"}}</nowiki>
{{clear}}
{| border=0 align=right cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 width=250 class="toccolours" style="float: right; clear: both; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 90%;" 
|+<big>'''Homestar Runner'''</big>
|-
| align=center colspan=2 | [[Image:homestar.PNG|100px]]
|- valign=top
! Domicile
| [[Homestar's House]]
|- valign=top
! Debut
| [[Original Book|"The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest"]]
|- valign=top
!
| [[:Category:Homestar Runner Filmography|Complete Filmography]]
|}
{{clear}}
Just an idea. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:37, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:I like it. Anymore info we could throw in? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:25, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

::Perhaps you could just use <nowiki>{{PAGENAME}}</nowiki> for the character name? [[Mr. Shmallow (character)]] is the only page this wouldn't work... though what would you do for characters that don't have a domocile? Oh, and your example wouldn't work... the | in the debut link will make all the stuff after it get ignored by the templating thing. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:41, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:::This looks pretty cool. I, for one, welcome our new template overlords. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:10, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Thanks everyone! And, Phlip? This is just for m,ain characters, as they have the '''Domiclile:''' things. Wait, Homsar doesn't. See the revised template below.
{{clear}}
{| border=0 align=right cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 width=250 class="toccolours" style="float: right; clear: both; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 90%;" 
|+<big>'''<nowiki>{{{PAGENAME}}}</nowiki>'''</big>
|-
| align=center colspan=2 | [[Image:{{{image}}}|100px]]
|- valign=top
! Domicile
| {{{domicile}}}
|- valign=top
! Debut
| [[{{{debut}}}]]
|- valign=top
!
| [[:Category:<nowiki>{{{PAGENAME}}}</nowiki> Filmography|Complete Filmography]]
|}
::::That way we can say None if needed. Oh, and your probably right about the | , but it's in a link, and it's in these tables a lot, so it actually would work. That and it works on the example. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 00:46, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

{{clear}}
== Teenage variations, etc. ==

Everything else is split so we can see the individual characters; teenage, middle school, and Free Petry Dish should be too. The amount of time it takes the page to load is negligible after it's already loaded over 220 images. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:58, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

:I like the compromised version of the sub-headers. Should I upload seperate images of the babies? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:39, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
::We already have the baby pics for Strong Bad, Strong Sad, Coach Z and the Diapersmith.  I don't remember if we have one for Pom Pom, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:45, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Yep, we do.  Just refer to the character pages for [[Strong Bad]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Coach Z]], [[The Poopsmith]] and [[Pom Pom]]. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:47, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

== Created Worlds vs. Fictional Fictional Characters ==

In my opinion, "Fictional Fictional Characters" is a better name for the Teen Girl Squad, the Cheat Commandos, the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes gang etc. than "Created Worlds", because:
*[[Wikipedia:Fictional fictional character|It's a term used by Wikipedia]]
*It refers to the characters, not the worlds they live in
--[[User:66.26.92.121|66.26.92.121]] 01:18, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Badian Pseudocharacters ==

I think that the [[Characters#Strong Badia|Strong Badia characters]] should be a subsection of [[Characters#Pseudocharacters|Pseudocharacters]].  Anyone agree? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:44, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
:You may have a point. They do seeem to fit.[[User:Geshmalderborgen|Geshmalder]] 16:00, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
::Done'd {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:07, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
:::What about the bundt cake pan? -[[User:Dutchscout|Dutchscout]] 00:29, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Unfortunately, the Bundt Cake Pan only ever had one appearance, and never did anything particularly pseudocharacter-y in its brief time onscreen. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:18, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

== Also which what? ==

I really think our "Also known as" section in Character pages could do with a rename. Not only is it misleading (people try to add [[Nicknames]] to the sections ''all the frikking time''), but it's not exactly accurate (I don't think [[Pom Pom]] would respond well if he was called [[Fat Dudley]]). Perhaps "Alternate forms" or "Variants"? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:22, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
:I agree. Either of those would be a good alternate title. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I say we rename it "Character Variations", like the [[:Category:Character Variations|category]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:39, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
:::That's a good idea. I like that. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== The decemberween decorations ==

Should the Decemberween decoration versions of the characters from decemberween short shorts be an alternate?

== Undead Strong Bad ==

I believe that Strong Bad as a zombie should be included in this page as an [[Characters#Other_Alternates|Other Alternate]]. Any comments? &mdash;{{User:Supuhstar/sig}}
:Actually it all depends on what will come of [[The Zombie Uprising of 2046]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 13:07, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


== Suggestion for Homsar & Senor==

Senor shows up too much to be misco & Homsar shows up too little to be main. Both should be secondary & the kings lackies should be misco; though they have been showing up more & more lately, but not as often as Senor or Homsar. Of course all of them could be listed as "Frequent Guest." ^_^
:Homsar is widely considered to be one of the "core 12", as his presence is usually in an Easter egg. Senor Cardgage, on the other hand, rarely interacts with the others, and does not have his own character page. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

==Chart==

If anyone has the time & will, I'd love to see a chart of character vs year on appearences. For instance, the graph would show Strong Bad skyrocketing ujp the graph while Pom Pom slowly plunges & goes slightly up again. It would be based on appearences in both emails & toons. Last year, I was almost positive Pom Pom was going to vanish like all the king's men, but then they started showing up again while popular characters like Teen Girl Squad & Cheat Commandos are making a small decline.

== Minor Characters? ==

''Moved from: [[Talk:Tentacle Skull#Minor Characters]]''

Resume discussion! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 00:01, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

I think we should make a [[Minor Characters]] page and put any character with only one appearance there. Who's with me? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:47, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think... that would be the longest page ever. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:48, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
::Why? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:49, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
:::It couldn't be any longer than [[Characters|this]] page.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 23:54, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Actually, it would, because it would have to have more detail and description of each character. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:55, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::But it wouldn't have all of those, just the minor ones. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:57, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::For the real people like [[Don Knotts]], all it would need is a link to the appropriate Wikipedia article.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 00:00, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Dorian, why don't we try it and cut it into smaller pages and categories if need be? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:04, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Like "Real people that appear in the H*R Universe," "Minor characters with only one appearance," and "minor characters" that that have more than one appearance but really REALLY [[Ali and Ali's Sister|don't need their own page]].--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 00:16, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Actually, ali and ali's sister should, as they've become a running joke and have 3 appearances, but the rest of what you said is good. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:18, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:I'm with you like no otha, brotha!--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 23:49, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
::Wait, didn't we decide not to merge most pages? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:25, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:::That discussion was while ago, though. Lemme go dig it up.
:::'''LATER:''' [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 7#Merge Crazy|Here's the ol' discussion]]. Just for reference. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 00:30, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

:::Well, otherwise, we keep ending up with more and more and more pages with just two or three sentences directly quoted from the "references" section of some toon and a link to a Wikipedia article.  It's just unsightly.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 00:30, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

== where be poppy? ==

poppy the tire isn't in the mascots section? we have the stop sign... mistake or purposeful?
:By clicking [[Mount RidesPlace USA Mascots]] you get to see all three mascots, but still, I do think all three deserve a place on the characters page.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

== Senor Cardgage a main character?==

He should be.[[User:Physicsguymonsterman|Physicsguymonsterman]] 13:06, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:Doesn't have a character video or appear in Halloween toons. Therefore, not main. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

== English ==

What the heck is wrong with the English on this website?  It's awful.  I can't understand anything.
: I&nbsp;don't&nbsp;see&nbsp;anything&nbsp;wrong.&nbsp;Perhaps&nbsp;you&nbsp;have&nbsp;a&nbsp;virus&nbsp;that&nbsp;activated&nbsp;on&nbsp;your&nbsp;computer&nbsp;today?&nbsp;--{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

== Petry Dish vs. Petri Dish ==

Does anybody know where the spelling of "Petry Dish" came from?
From what I remember in high school/college chemistry, it's proper spelling was "petri" dish.
I think someone should change this...
:It was (mis)spelled "Petry" in the cartoon, therefore that's the "official" spelling that we use. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:21, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

== New Bad Guy Girl Character ==

Should she go in Blue Laser, or in other characters? And where would the Guy Who Does The Bad Guy's Voice go? [[User:Shadoman|Shadoman]] 16:08, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

And where is A. Chimendez? You have Crack Stuntman and Guy Who Does The Bad Guy's Voice, but not Chimendez.

== A. Chimendez ==

Seeing as he has a page about him, A. Chimendez should really have his own character link and image on this Characters page, in the same vein as Crack Stuntman does.

== Blubb-o's mascot ==

Shouldn’t Coach Z in his Dive-thru whale costume be in mascots? If not the drive through whale is a mascot not just a pseudocharacter. Please explain how you define the category of characters if they belong in more than one category.

== Fav main character? ==

Headline speaks for self.  My fav is [[Homsar]], AKA "The captain of the gravy train."  AKA "Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
:This is a great kind of thing to ask on the forum. Why not take it there? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

== New Character images? ==

I know it's probably uneeded, but I always thought that for the character pages, at least those of the main 12, we should have images of just the characters, without any of the background in it. If so, the images would look something like the ones found here: [http://s718.photobucket.com/albums/ww185/HomestarCharacters/]. What do you guys think? [[User:TheTylor|TheTylor]] 03:37, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
:I think that link is broken. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:39, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
::Hopefully fix'd. Try again. [[User:TheTylor|TheTylor]] 20:29, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Updated with more pictures and categories. No one wants to say whether they think this will be a good idea or not? I'd rather talk about it before I try to change anything. [[User:TheTylor|TheTylor]] 17:39, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
:Not a bad idea, I think the grid of images would look nice that way.  Before uploading those though, some of them could benefit from just a little bit of refinement.  The Poopsmith and the KoT images both have some semi-transparent pixels of background still visible in places, and the cut-out of KoT is pretty rough along his back. Sorry to be nit-picky, good work on them ;) &mdash;[[Special:Contributions/98.222.134.36|98.222.134.36]] 18:04, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Okay well, I waited awhile in case someone thought this was a bad idea, but nobody seemed to want to comment on it, so I went ahead and uploaded the main 12 character images with transparent backgrounds. If someone objects, they can just revert the images. If they aren't reverted within a couple of days, I'm just gunna go ahead and work on more of the secondary and minor characters. If anyone wants to help, feel free. I've uploaded everyone I've done so far onto that photo bucket account. [[User:TheTylor|TheTylor]] 02:40, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== Favorite Characters? ==
Hey everypeoples! Just wonderin', would you mind telling me your favorite character? Thank ya so nice! [[User:Fingerface|Fingerface]] 00:01, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Why don't you ask that kind of thing on the forum, you could get a wider response??? Not that many people look at this talk page to awnser that.--{{User:Smartkidhen/sig}} 19:39, 3 June 2009 (UTC)smartkidhen

== MADE UP ANIMALS?? ==

In the Other Alternates section, wouldn't it just be easier to list all the names and pictures of the made up animals instead of that one picture      and the link to the made up animals page???????? I added Sterrance to the list, but I can take him off if you guys want.--{{User:Smartkidhen/sig}} 19:34, 3 June 2009 (UTC)smartkidhen
:Well, by a purely simplistic standpoint, listing one ''is'' easier than listing a bunch. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:24, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== 'Wil Characters ==

Okay, this may seem weird, but should we put pictures of the younger ones on their pages? Like, Lil SB on SB's page, Teen Mad on SM's page, Lil Coach Z. Sort of. Catch my drift? [[User:Strong Intelligent|SI.com!]]

== Ready for Primetime ==

According to {{p|l={{FULLURL:Characters|diff=717992&oldid=717989}} these two}} {{p|l={{FULLURL:Characters|diff=718181&oldid=718180}} edits}}, Strong Mad's name doesn't belong adjacent to Ready for Primetime in that spot. Apparently we've decided against it. However, I can find no proof that this has been decided against (i'm probably not looking hard enough), and I believe that Strong Mad's name certainly belongs there. In order to prevent a further edit war, I would like to either see evidence to back up Jay's claim, or to open discussion on whether or not Strong Mad's name belongs there. And maybe both; seeing evidence isn't going to change my mind. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 20:21, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
:Because Ready for Primetime is his own body. He's a self-sustaining character like Homestar or Eh! Steve!. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 22:08, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
::no he's not. he's Strong Mad's head. If Strong Bad's name belongs beside [[Keyboard Strong Bad]] since he's based on Strong Bad, then Strong Mad's name belongs beside Ready for Primetime since he's based on Strong Mad. oh, and the [[DNA Evidence (running gag)|evidence]] was probably more important in my earlier post than the discussion part. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 00:03, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Frankly, I think you have it backward. I don't think we should have the "(Strong Bad)" next to Keyboard Strong Bad. We put them next to the alternate characters (Old-Timey and 20X6 and so forth), but I don't think they belong in other portions of the page. Now then, Ready for Primetime has Strong Mad's face, but it's not meant to be a counterpart to Strong Mad; after all, where's Homestar's counterpart? And exactly which character does Eh! Steve represent? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:55, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
::::There's nothing to suggest that all the characters need variations. Strong Bad was making it up as he went, and he found a way for himself to fit in to the crazy cartoon, and later on, for Strong Mad to fit in. So, based on what I've said so far, would you predict that I think The Wheelchair should have (Bubs) next to it, or not? i'm closer to being swayed than i was this afternoon, but there still hasn't been any evidence provided to strengthen the edit summary in the first link i posted. anyway, what exactly does the name in parentheses mean? I might have that wiki terminology incorrect. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 06:12, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::Then we should take the parenthetical away from keyboard head strongbad. [[Special:Contributions/132.183.4.6|132.183.4.6]] 21:07, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

== userboxes ==

Do you think there should be userboxes on all the characters' (including TBC) pages (except "This user" would be replaced with the character's name)? Just a suggestion. --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 23:44, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
:An interesting idea in theory, but I don't think it would work at all. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 00:10, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
::Maybe mock up an example. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:01, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
:::ok how about JUST on tbc's pages? --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 22:23, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
::::Perhaps draw it up in the sandbox so you can show us what your idea is. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:59, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

==Not Charactors!==
Why on earth does bands and companies on a '''CHARACTERS''' page? they are not characters and they cramp up the page! Should they have onother page? --[[User:Jfilesguy|that guy who is Jfiles]] 12:37, 21 June 2011 (UTC) June 2011
: I believe if any of the characters have contact with the bands/ characters in question, Like, Sloshy, for instance, they are characters. And they are also characters is they simply appear in cartoons and SBemails more then 2 or 3 times. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]

== F. Sack ==

Souldn't we put the F. Sack from Flash is dead under inanimate objects?