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Marzipan's True Colors

From: keep cool
Posted on: 21:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• Both references are specific.

Arguments against:

• It is unclear at best whether Marzipan was truly acknowledging that her hair color was non-natural.
• Some have suggested (see below) that pool chemicals affect natural hair color as well as artificial hair color.
  • If we accept that natural blondes (or other hair colors) can experience discoloration, then the whole fact is shot.
• No matter what color her hair is naturally, the chemicals in the pool aren't exactly standard pool chemicals anyway. Who knows what effects Strong Bad's cocktail could have on hair?

Additional comments:

• The last version of this item had this after: "However, blonde hair reacting with chemicals is a common problem for natural as well as non-natural blondes." Are we voting on the fact above, or the whole fact as removed?
  • If naturally blonde hair reacts with chemicals as well, then this fact does not make much sense. Does anybody have any links to confirm this?
    • No links, but I have a friend with naturally dark hair that turns blond after repeated swimming in a pool. It's very feasible that pool chemicals affect the color of naturally blonde hair as well.
    • There are some helpful comments on the talk page. But no independent source yet.
    • Here's a link: the last question on this page is from a mother with blonde highlights and a daughter with naturally blonde hair: both heads of hair turned green.
    • change it to reflect the fact that ALL blonde hair turns green in pools...
• The chemicals in pools usually don't include pesticide, bleach, or industrial cleaning chemicals PH balanced for women, do they? I wouldn't be surprised if my hair turned green and caught fire if I had been swimming in that cocktail. Maybe this fact should be rewritten "Marzipan's hair turning green, 'tingling' and catching on fire is a reference to how swimming in bug poison and cleaning chemicals can kill you. It's also a reference to how Strong Bad has no idea what he's doing." Except that would be really lame because that's the joke.
  • Since nobody is able to agree on this, perhaps the best approach would just be to acknowledge that the joke is about Strong Bad's incompetence, but to mention that it is a second piece of possible evidence for Marzipan not being a natural blonde.

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Chemical SB

From: keep cool
Posted on: 04:39, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Arguments for:

Arguments against:

• That's the joke, too obvious, etc.
• There are quite a few chemicals used for cleaning pools.
• Not really necessary to explain this; most people are aware that pool water is treated with chemicals.

Additional comments:

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Welcome to our tuff. Notice there's no S in it.

From: keep cool
Posted on: 22:06, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• Re arg against: It's relatively obscure.
• Re arg against: It's not likely that this would be inferred.
• I certainly didn't get the joke until it was explained. Keep it.
• There's no other reason why the P would be missing.

Arguments against:

• This fact explains the joke too much.
• Re arg for: It's a pretty common sight at pools.
• Re arg for: While people may not know about the existence of the sign in real life, they could reasonably infer this.

Additional comments:

• At least, it's obscure enough that I'd never heard it before.
• I've swum and a lot of pools, and I've never seen it.
  • Just because you've never seen it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. MY own pool used to have that very same sign spoke of here, and it's OBVIOUSLY a reference. Plus, I worked in a Pool Store and we sold a few that had jokes like that on it.
    • I mean that since I've never seen it, I don't think it's a common sight and should therefore be explained.
• I'm hesitant to vote to accept not because the sign isn't real (it's definitely real), but because it explains the joke.
  • On the other hand, it is a bona-fide real-world reference, as the sign existed long before this email, and therefore should be mentioned.
• Explaining the joke is very necessary, trust me. And it didn't make it any less funny, at least not for me.
• Can someone explain the original joke to me? I don't understand what's the significance of 'P'.
  • Well, you asked for it. "P" = "pee" = "to urinate". Get it? Like, don't pee in our pool, man. After all, we don't swim in your toilet.
• For those who live in countries where english isn´t the native language it is a good reference since we don't have this sign around. (Altough we get the word play of P=pee without having it explained to us.)
  • I'm not suggesting we explain it, but the person who asked the question right above you apparently didn't get it.

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