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== Suggestions == | == Suggestions == | ||
- | The page seems to be missing all [[Toons#Not on the Site|YouTube exclusives]], as well as source descriptions for [[ | + | ;Done: |
+ | :[[Toons#Not on the Site|YouTube exclusives]] | ||
+ | :Pages: | ||
+ | ::[[Sbemail 100 fakeout]] | ||
+ | ::[[Sbemail 200 Fakeout]] | ||
+ | ::[[Cheat Commandos Playsets]] | ||
+ | ::[[Strong Sad's Valentine Animation]] | ||
+ | ::[[Post-Flash Update!]] | ||
+ | ::[[Pom Pom, Too]] | ||
+ | ::[[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] | ||
+ | ::[[Flash's 10th Birthday]] | ||
+ | ::[[Ancient Valentine Cards]] | ||
+ | :Descriptions: | ||
+ | ::[[Oldest Toons Menu]] | ||
+ | ::[[Lava Lamp Toons Menu]] | ||
+ | ::[[Telebision Toons Menu]] | ||
+ | ::[[Chinese Food Toons Menu]] | ||
+ | :YouTube descriptions: | ||
+ | ::[[Sample of Style]] | ||
+ | ::[[Sample of Style Too]] | ||
+ | ::[[Trogdor!! The Board Game (video)]] | ||
+ | ::[[Meeple Grove]] | ||
+ | ::[[Six-Sadded, Die. - Trogdor's Fiery Rage]] | ||
+ | ::[[Wyrmwood Video]] | ||
+ | ::[[Grumblecakes (video)]] | ||
+ | ::[[It's Like It Was Meant to Be (video)]] | ||
+ | ::[[Blue Laserdisc Challenge]] | ||
+ | |||
+ | The page seems to be missing all [[Toons#Not on the Site|YouTube exclusives]], as well as source descriptions for [[Sbemail 100 fakeout]], [[Sbemail 200 Fakeout]], [[Cheat Commandos Playsets]], [[hr:vday|that Valentine's animation]], and [[Post-Flash Update!]] ({{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Sandbox}}&oldid=801736 all of which can be found here}}). It's also missing descriptions from [[Oldest Toons Menu]], [[Lava Lamp Toons Menu]], [[Telebision Toons Menu]], and [[Chinese Food Toons Menu]], if we're being that thorough (in which case, [[Pom Pom, Too]] and [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] should be added). Other than that, it seems perfect! {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}} 06:42, 21 February 2021 (UTC) | ||
:Wow! That's quite a thorough list! (Both the project page and the comment above!) I'm curious, looking at the {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Sandbox}}&oldid=801736 sandbox link}} above, do the Valentine's and Playsets pages not have corresponding HRWiki pages? If not, they probably should... Either way thanks for the hard work Dot com and Gfd! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC) | :Wow! That's quite a thorough list! (Both the project page and the comment above!) I'm curious, looking at the {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Sandbox}}&oldid=801736 sandbox link}} above, do the Valentine's and Playsets pages not have corresponding HRWiki pages? If not, they probably should... Either way thanks for the hard work Dot com and Gfd! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::[[Cheat Commandos Playsets]] does have a page, as I found out a few days after that edit. The Valentine's thing doesn't really have a page of its own, but it's mentioned on the [[Strong Sad's Lament]] and [[Ancient Valentine Cards]] pages. And considering it's a 2-second loop with no audio, I'm not sure it needs one (but that's a discussion that can be had elsewhere). {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}} 19:10, 21 February 2021 (UTC) | ||
+ | :::The description for that Valentine's animation will eventually have to go on ''some'' wiki page. I don't see why it can't be that toon's own page. The toon has a page title and the page would have connections to other things, and as far as I've been able to find the action isn't fully described in words anywhere. In fact, I just talked myself into [[Love Is A Grim Hydraulic Press|creating the page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:07, 22 February 2021 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::::Okay I've done everything on the list. Is that all the descriptions? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:44, 3 March 2021 (UTC) | ||
+ | :::::<strike>Sure seems like it!</strike> {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}} 06:07, 3 March 2021 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::::::Sorry, I forgot a few. The ones added above aren't YouTube exclusive, but originated on DVDs or Kickstarter where they didn't have descriptions before they were uploaded to YouTube. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}} 05:18, 14 March 2021 (UTC) | ||
== Experimental Film == | == Experimental Film == | ||
- | So I noticed that the description for [[Experimental Film]] is longer than the rest. But looking at the actual Youtube description, they match. I take it this is normal, correct? This just happens to be the one time they use descriptions longer than a sentence? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:34, 21 February 2021 (UTC) | + | So I noticed that the description for [[HRWiki:Descriptions#Experimental Film|Experimental Film]] is longer than the rest. But looking at the actual Youtube description, they match. I take it this is normal, correct? This just happens to be the one time they use descriptions longer than a sentence? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:34, 21 February 2021 (UTC) |
+ | :There are four instances where the description is on more than one line (at least so far; as noted above there's some more YouTube stuff that needs to be added). [[HRWiki:Descriptions#Kick The Cheat Voicebox Replacement Surgery (How-to)|Here's one]] that's almost as long as that one. As I mentioned on [[HRWiki:Projects#Toon Descriptions|HRWiki:Projects]], we'll probably want to find a way to make those collapsible. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:26, 21 February 2021 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::Ah! I see now! Now I get the collapsable thing. If I remember correctly we may have to steal some CSS from wikipedia for that to happen, or something to that effect. It had been discussed early on in nav template development but I can't find it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:04, 22 February 2021 (UTC) | ||
== [none] entries == | == [none] entries == | ||
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I see there are a lot of entries with the text "[none]". I'm assuming that's meant to indicate that the item is missing? However the norm seems to be to simply omit the item altogether? I'm guessing those items should be removed? If so that would leave us with another problem: what if the item has no descriptions? Maybe add a separate flag like "nodesc = true"? I'd rather do than than remove the entire item so that we explicitly know that the item has been checked and it has no descriptions. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:38, 21 February 2021 (UTC) | I see there are a lot of entries with the text "[none]". I'm assuming that's meant to indicate that the item is missing? However the norm seems to be to simply omit the item altogether? I'm guessing those items should be removed? If so that would leave us with another problem: what if the item has no descriptions? Maybe add a separate flag like "nodesc = true"? I'd rather do than than remove the entire item so that we explicitly know that the item has been checked and it has no descriptions. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:38, 21 February 2021 (UTC) | ||
:<code>[none]</code> means a description was expected but none is there. For example, every page on the updated site has a <code><meta name="description"></code> tag, but for some pages the <code>content</code> of that tag is an empty string (<code>""</code>). So those are listed as <code>source = [none]</code>, whereas things that don't have that tag at all (like old pages) don't have <code>source</code> listed at all. Likewise, toons that don't have a YouTube version don't have <code>youtube</code> listed, but toons that ''do'' have a YouTube version but the YouTube description is blank are listed as <code>youtube = [none]</code>. | :<code>[none]</code> means a description was expected but none is there. For example, every page on the updated site has a <code><meta name="description"></code> tag, but for some pages the <code>content</code> of that tag is an empty string (<code>""</code>). So those are listed as <code>source = [none]</code>, whereas things that don't have that tag at all (like old pages) don't have <code>source</code> listed at all. Likewise, toons that don't have a YouTube version don't have <code>youtube</code> listed, but toons that ''do'' have a YouTube version but the YouTube description is blank are listed as <code>youtube = [none]</code>. | ||
+ | ::Got it. I understand now. In that case is the "[none]" intended to be kept as-is or will it be transformed into a more user friendly message upon display? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:30, 22 February 2021 (UTC) |
Current revision as of 05:42, 1 November 2022
[edit] Suggestions
- Done:
- YouTube exclusives
- Pages:
- Descriptions:
- YouTube descriptions:
The page seems to be missing all YouTube exclusives, as well as source descriptions for Sbemail 100 fakeout, Sbemail 200 Fakeout, Cheat Commandos Playsets, that Valentine's animation, and Post-Flash Update! (all of which can be found here). It's also missing descriptions from Oldest Toons Menu, Lava Lamp Toons Menu, Telebision Toons Menu, and Chinese Food Toons Menu, if we're being that thorough (in which case, Pom Pom, Too and Marshmallow's Last Stand should be added). Other than that, it seems perfect! Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 06:42, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Wow! That's quite a thorough list! (Both the project page and the comment above!) I'm curious, looking at the sandbox link above, do the Valentine's and Playsets pages not have corresponding HRWiki pages? If not, they probably should... Either way thanks for the hard work Dot com and Gfd! --Stux 08:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Cheat Commandos Playsets does have a page, as I found out a few days after that edit. The Valentine's thing doesn't really have a page of its own, but it's mentioned on the Strong Sad's Lament and Ancient Valentine Cards pages. And considering it's a 2-second loop with no audio, I'm not sure it needs one (but that's a discussion that can be had elsewhere).
Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 19:10, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- The description for that Valentine's animation will eventually have to go on some wiki page. I don't see why it can't be that toon's own page. The toon has a page title and the page would have connections to other things, and as far as I've been able to find the action isn't fully described in words anywhere. In fact, I just talked myself into creating the page. — It's dot com 03:07, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Okay I've done everything on the list. Is that all the descriptions? — It's dot com 04:44, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- The description for that Valentine's animation will eventually have to go on some wiki page. I don't see why it can't be that toon's own page. The toon has a page title and the page would have connections to other things, and as far as I've been able to find the action isn't fully described in words anywhere. In fact, I just talked myself into creating the page. — It's dot com 03:07, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Cheat Commandos Playsets does have a page, as I found out a few days after that edit. The Valentine's thing doesn't really have a page of its own, but it's mentioned on the Strong Sad's Lament and Ancient Valentine Cards pages. And considering it's a 2-second loop with no audio, I'm not sure it needs one (but that's a discussion that can be had elsewhere).
[edit] Experimental Film
So I noticed that the description for Experimental Film is longer than the rest. But looking at the actual Youtube description, they match. I take it this is normal, correct? This just happens to be the one time they use descriptions longer than a sentence? --Stux 09:34, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- There are four instances where the description is on more than one line (at least so far; as noted above there's some more YouTube stuff that needs to be added). Here's one that's almost as long as that one. As I mentioned on HRWiki:Projects, we'll probably want to find a way to make those collapsible. — It's dot com 16:26, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ah! I see now! Now I get the collapsable thing. If I remember correctly we may have to steal some CSS from wikipedia for that to happen, or something to that effect. It had been discussed early on in nav template development but I can't find it. --Stux 07:04, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
[edit] [none] entries
I see there are a lot of entries with the text "[none]". I'm assuming that's meant to indicate that the item is missing? However the norm seems to be to simply omit the item altogether? I'm guessing those items should be removed? If so that would leave us with another problem: what if the item has no descriptions? Maybe add a separate flag like "nodesc = true"? I'd rather do than than remove the entire item so that we explicitly know that the item has been checked and it has no descriptions. --Stux 09:38, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
[none]
means a description was expected but none is there. For example, every page on the updated site has a<meta name="description">
tag, but for some pages thecontent
of that tag is an empty string (""
). So those are listed assource = [none]
, whereas things that don't have that tag at all (like old pages) don't havesource
listed at all. Likewise, toons that don't have a YouTube version don't haveyoutube
listed, but toons that do have a YouTube version but the YouTube description is blank are listed asyoutube = [none]
.- Got it. I understand now. In that case is the "[none]" intended to be kept as-is or will it be transformed into a more user friendly message upon display? --Stux 07:30, 22 February 2021 (UTC)