Talk:If I Ran the Camera

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Copied from Talk:Secret Pages.

I was just poking around the Wayback Machine and I found this. It doesn't seem to be on the current site and my computer is weird about some of the wayback archives. Can anybody get it to work? --mibluvr13dígame 15:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No good, the wayback machine never stored the swf. Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:14, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Aw man! I guess we'll never know what it was... --mibluvr13dígame 15:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

If we ignore the stuff that the Wayback Machine added to the source, we get this: (Yes, I know we're not supposed to use the <pre> tag anymore, but it works better for page sources):


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<!--If I Ran the Camera (Ws . TÃ O ,h(YC?S   gO j… !  w "If I ran the camera for the movies today, Things would be different," said young Astrid Renee. The special effects and all that kind of stuff That they show on the screen is not quite good enough. You can see stuff like that in just any old flick, But you'd see something different if I made a pic. Of course, I'd need helpers and the first to be hired Would be my Grandpa Chapman (after all, he's retired). My Grandpa Chapman is one of my very best friends, So I know he won't mind doing some small odds and ends. producer "What my movie needs first," pondered Astrid Renee "Is a solid foundation, one heck of a screenplay." And my Grandpa Chapman is just the guy who can write it Why I'll bet he can even cast it, produce it and light it! screenplay by don chapman With the story all settled the next thing to do Is to find a location to set up my film crew. Some place exotic,  some place never seen Some place that looks stupendous  up on the big screen. The jungles of Prance  or the mountains of Prut Or maybe the River of Brigger-ba-Root Yes, that's it! My film will be set on a boat As down the Brigger-ba-Root my cast and crew float When the crew is all set and the river is Brigger-ba Rooting Then will be just the perfect time to finally start shooting And who better to capture every last detail? Why my Grandpa Chapman, he just can't fail. When the shooting is done, then it will be time to edit And my Grandpa Chapman is the guy who'll get that credit. When my film's in the can, folks will come from far and near To rub elbows with me at my movie's big premiere ASTRID'S BIG PREMIERE Then I'll have to embark on a long publicity tour And after that, I'll need a spa vacation for sure. After all, making movies takes a lot outta me… But I'll be sure to thank my Grandpa Chapman  When I thank the Academy.  sl?C ,OAC! 'j    �…w" 'M     the!.… aGydÿPC…!bbqG the end --><center><OBJECT classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
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Very long, but from what I can guess, it appears to be a kids' poem. Note the use of "Grandpa Chapman" throughout. Unless she's the Little Girl, I have no idea who "Astrid Renee" is. --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif, 11:21, 25 June 2005 (BST)

Here's a quick solution to your If I ran the camera questions which I am also dying to know about: Email TBC and ask about it. --Darklinkskywalker 23:10, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

E-mail sent, awaiting reply... --—Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_



I know it's not much, but I found two forum posts that referenced the toon: [1] and [2]. Also, I wasn't sure how obvious this was, but the Internet Archive made the copy of the source on Nov. 12, 2002. That might help in further research attempts. -- Tom 23:45, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Flash File!

Dwedit found the Flash file! (See external links) - KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r)

Yeah, I had that on my computer ever since I noticed that the WS_FTP.LOG file was wide open, so I downloaded every file from the site at that time. How I found the WF_FTP.LOG file? I was looking in /menuswfs, and got a directory listing, and there was a nice big conspicuous WS_FTP.LOG file sitting in that folder. I posted the taryngame.swf link onto, then blabbed about the ftp log on some other message board. Someone else also might have found it at the same time, since I heard about it on comments as well. So I saw that this page said "the swf file is lost to the ages", laughed, then uploaded the file on my comcast webspace. Just contributing my share... TBC, please don't sue me.--Dwedit 05:18, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Erm... sorry, but I can't exactly find the link to the flash file. Where is it?

spywaremagnet 9:28 AM, November 30 2005

Fun Fact

The fun fact you added isn't really needed, as it's mentioned in the description. - Joshua

Whoops! Sorry about that - Volbeat A The Cheat 08:44, 26 November 2005 (UTC)


Now that we have the Flash file, we can confirm it is the Brothers Chaps' father. If you look when "young Astrid Renee" has a stack of papers, the top one reads "Screenplay by Don Chapman". That proves it, don't it? --DorianGray

If this is true (which I believe, if we know Don is their father) then that means that-- wait. Do the two Chapmans have any siblings? Mike and Matt? They have to, because of the Little Girl, because that would prove that the little girl is the girl here. --SaltyTalk! 03:28, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

The Brothers Chaps#Family says they have three other siblings. Until we know that two of them don't have daughters, that means there's no way to know for sure it is her. —AbdiViklas 04:04, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
My point, though, stands that we do know who the Grandpa is: Don Chapman. I just don't know where to put it in the article. --DorianGray
And I like how it looks now. Nice way of putting it. --DorianGray
Now with "Other Little Girl", it's opened a whole 'nother confuzzery. Thunderbird 22:53, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Perhaps the Brothers Chaps saw we found this and added the new Little Girl, just to confuse us. --DorianGray
I bet at least two of their 3 siblings have daughters. My theory: One sibling had the first little girl, the blond one who is most likely Astrid Renee. Another sibling had the Other Little Girl, who is only in the new Puppet toon. Either of them couldd be Astrid, though. --SaltyTalk! 03:28, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
I tend to think that the Other Little Girl is a friend's daughter, since she lacks the Family Resemblence to the Chapos that Little Girl has, but of course, Other Little Girl could still be related. Count me as a vote towards Little Girl as Astrid. —Zelinda 03:31, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
You know what guys? After further reflection, I'm flip flopping my interest in checking this out. TBC are somewhat protective of information about themselves, choosing to appear only in the DVDs, and are obviously not going out of their way to make information on their extended family easily accessible. I'd like to respect that; the fact that it involves minors brings even more privacy issues into it. We can speculate privately, but I think the less talk the better. —AbdiViklas 03:57, 29 November 2005 (UTC)


From the wiki article: "It was removed from the site sometime in 2003, after the Brothers Chaps realized that fans had unearthed the secret page."

My interpretation of this is that this movie was never meant for the public eye, and that they didn't really want us to see it... Isn't it extremely rude and not-real-fan-like to mirror it here?

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