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Regarding the following:

"The song Strong Bad is singing is "Knocking On Heaven's Door," 
a song by a popular Christian group called Avalon)"

I listened to the Avalon song and I have to admit that what Strong Bad is singing is closer to it than the Bob Dylan classic. SB says "keep on knockin on heaven's door", the refrain from the Avalon song, not the classic Dylan hit. Surprised the heck out of me! - Drhaggis 17:43, 1 Nov 2004 (MST)

  • The song Strong Bad is singing is "Knocking On Heaven's Door," a song by a popular Christian group called Avalon.
    • Given the Brothers Chaps' love of pop culture refrences, it seems much more likely that Strong Bad is singing "Knockin' on Heaven's Door," a very famous Bob Dylan song that has been covered by Eric Clapton, Guns N' Roses, Warren Zevon, Avril Lavigne, Elvis Costello, and others.
    • The melody of the song Strong Bad is singing is nothing like that of Bob Dylan's "Knocking on Heaven's Door." Perhaps TBC haven't really heard Dylan's song at this point, but they've heard of it.
    • Whatever Strong Bad sings at anytime, he rarely establishes a melody, so he COULD be singing anyone of those. I go with GNR.

I still think it might be the unrelated Avalon song, but I prefer Mr. Dylan's. - Dr Haggis - Talk 22:31, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

I just listened to a clip of the Avalon song at Amazon and I can't hear any resemblance between it and what Strong Bad sings. I'm inclined to go with the Dylan tune, considering how ingrained into the cultural consciousness it is. — InterruptorJones[[]] 22:48, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)


[edit] Sync

Strong Bad's movements aren't in sync when using Firefox. But in Internet Explorer, he's fine (provided your computer is fast enough). I don't know why, but Firefox has a frame limiter in its version of Flash, making some movies not play right.

  • I don't think Firefox has a "version of flash." Flash is done with embed tags, causing the browser to load the flash binary. That doesn't mean that firefox doesn't affect flash, but it doesn't have its own implementation (like it does for PNGs) --Buz
I agree. Furthermore, I don't notice any thing odd in Firefox. -- Tom 08:05, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
And I'm on IE and it runs out of sync for me. I don't know what causes it, but it clearly isn't the browser. --Upsilon
I could see this happening on an older (read: slower) computer. Flash is fairly CPU- and memory-intensive (compared to, say, HTML at least) and an older computer might have trouble running Firefox and Flash at the same time as all of the Windows and IE bloat that's always running in the background. — InterruptorJones[[]] 22:37, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
Yes. I was the one who added that fun fact and at the time I was using IE. I just went back to it now (using Firefox) and it appears alright, but this is a different computer then when I saw it in IE. «Rob»
There's an option when you add a sound in Flash labelled "Sync with movie" or something like that, that makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. Usually if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making any sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. phlip 06:57, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

[edit] Closed STUFF

[edit] Outta Sync?

Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

Elements of the discussion below were used to revise the article.

  • Decline If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --the spludge 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
  • Decline Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
  • Revise and Accept. It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — It's dot com 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
    • Second The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
    • Second Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --Joshua 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
    • Second It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --Jay 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --TheEggman 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --thatkidsam 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
    • Second -- AnarchyBalsac
  • Decline As I said on Talk:Main Page 6, there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --phlip 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- tomstiff 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.TK600 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Harp or Lyre?

Is the musical instrument Homestar is holding a harp or a lyre? To me, it looks me like a lyre, but it could be a harp. EDIT: Fixed a little error in my post. DannyDaWriter (talk, contribs)

It may be. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 14:11, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Or it may not. But then I'm just playing the devil's advocate here. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 14:47, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
If it were a harp, it would be resting on the clouds, he wouldn't be able to pick it up, and it would look much larger. It's possible TBC were thinking of a harp when they made it, but there's no way to be sure. I think we should call it a lyre. Good catch, DannyDaWriter. —BazookaJoe 14:57, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm with BazookaJoe. We can change it, but there's no reason to be harping about it. Thunderbird 15:02, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
I'd be a lyre if I said that wasn't a bad pun. --Jay (Talk) 15:09, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Ouch... Jay, that pun hurt. X.X - Joshua 15:50, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
You three are all pretty high-strung. You should take a break. :P —BazookaJoe 16:02, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Jokes like that should be punished. --phlip TC 16:07, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Ha ha ha ha.... ha?... Yeah. Actually, I think lyre is pronounced like "leer" (English, not the Spanish verb for "read"), and I think there's another word for it... cetera, I think. Good discussion though. Thanks, all. :) DannyDaWriter (talk, contribs)

[edit] Leftover Stuff Dating Back to 2001

Decompiling Main Page 6, I have found the following:

  • Text reading "LAST UPDATED 10-2-01"
  • Text reading "new" "answering" "machine"
  • Text reading "3 new" "strong bad" "emails!!"
  • Text reading "new intro"
  • Text reading "new email" "strong bad"
  • Buttons "new answering machine" "3 new strong bad emails!!" "new intro"

Also, I have found that the sound clips are ordered this way: Toons, Games, Characters, Email, Downloads and Store, just like in the old and unfinished version. The first ten main pages or so are also ordered this way. That'sBupkis! 23:34, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

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